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Old 11-30-2024, 02:31 PM   #901
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Old 11-30-2024, 02:31 PM   #902
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OSU is the fourth place team in the B1G and I'm not certain they even get into the playoffs now.
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Old 11-30-2024, 02:32 PM   #903
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Snowbowl in the Hogs-Missouri game.

I don’t remember the last time I saw the Hogs play in snow. Don’t know what to expect

I hope it's better than me in snow in NCAA 24.
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Old 11-30-2024, 02:32 PM   #904
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Old 11-30-2024, 02:32 PM   #905
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Hard to believe it.

My next door neighbor has the OSU flag up, driveway lined with about 15-20 cars. It's been absolute silence this afternoon.

Definitely unexpected. A team without an offense going into Columbus and somehow hanging in there.

Should go over there and say hi?
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Old 11-30-2024, 02:35 PM   #906
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Now, it's time to go and listen to OSU podcasts and sup upon their sweet, sweet delicious tears!
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Old 11-30-2024, 02:35 PM   #907
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Disagree Gus. This is what is supposed to happen in a rivalry game in 2024.
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Old 11-30-2024, 02:37 PM   #908
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Should go over there and say hi?

They've got an amazing basement. Completely refinished, kitchenette down there, room for 100 people.

They hosted the village's 100-year anniversary party back in May. We all dressed up in Gatsby-era clothes. They even rented a car from the era for pictures. Horse-and-carriage rides around the village.

I think I'll leave them alone. And poor ol' Day. He might be the first coach let go right before a conference championship game. ETA. Oh, they need Maryland and Purdue to win now. Anyway, they're going to the playoffs. No questions there.

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Old 11-30-2024, 02:53 PM   #909
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I guess some players got pepper sprayed after the Michigan OSU game. Crazy scene.
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Old 11-30-2024, 02:53 PM   #910
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Rutgers-Michigan State isn't really a good game, but it's Christmassy colors in a snow globe.
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Old 11-30-2024, 02:57 PM   #911
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Old 11-30-2024, 03:00 PM   #912
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Old 11-30-2024, 03:03 PM   #913
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Can you fire a coach before the playoff?
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Old 11-30-2024, 03:26 PM   #914
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Can you fire a coach before the playoff?

We damned close to finding out lol
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Old 11-30-2024, 03:26 PM   #915
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It's wild to me that you know ahead of time that you are using a makeshift OL yet you still insist on trying to run into the middle against two of the best DTs in college. I expected better from Chip Kelly.

The fight is yet another example of Michigan in a brawl. It happens a couple times every season and every time we act like it is the first time ever.
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Old 11-30-2024, 03:38 PM   #916
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Old 11-30-2024, 04:00 PM   #917
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Granted, I only saw the one video, but it looks like the cops just started indiscriminately spraying pepper spray once things had started to calm down.
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Old 11-30-2024, 04:07 PM   #918
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Michigan's win today was the first time an unranked team won in this series since 2004 when Troy Smith had recently taken over the starting job from Justin Zwick and knocked off the Chad Henne/Braylon Edwards/Michael Hart Michigan team.
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Old 11-30-2024, 04:11 PM   #919
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Granted, I only saw the one video, but it looks like the cops just started indiscriminately spraying pepper spray once things had started to calm down.

That is what it looks like. Cops have a tough job, but if you're going to carry any kind of weaponry, you had better be damned sure it's absolutely necessary before you pull it out. It wasn't a brawl. Just some pushing and shoving over planting a flag. I didn't see punches thrown on either side and as many players trying to keep the peace as adding to the mess.

Emotional game. Maybe you shouldn't take over the logo, but it happens. Texas did in Michigan Stadium back in September and no one freaked out.
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Old 11-30-2024, 04:16 PM   #920
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Ryan Day gives me Tom Herman vibes. Something is just off there.
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Old 11-30-2024, 04:18 PM   #921
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That is what it looks like. Cops have a tough job, but if you're going to carry any kind of weaponry, you had better be damned sure it's absolutely necessary before you pull it out.

I think we have a 131 page long thread on THAT…
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Old 11-30-2024, 04:27 PM   #922
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Auburn just tried to draw Alabama offside on a 4th and goal from the 2 with 29 seconds left in the half.

What is the purpose of that?
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Old 11-30-2024, 04:39 PM   #923
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That is what it looks like. Cops have a tough job, but if you're going to carry any kind of weaponry, you had better be damned sure it's absolutely necessary before you pull it out. It wasn't a brawl. Just some pushing and shoving over planting a flag. I didn't see punches thrown on either side and as many players trying to keep the peace as adding to the mess.

Emotional game. Maybe you shouldn't take over the logo, but it happens. Texas did in Michigan Stadium back in September and no one freaked out.

The NCAA needs to police the fields better. Between teams and fans rushing fields it's only a matter of time until something terrible happens. They can put an end to this pretty quickly if they choose to.
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Old 11-30-2024, 05:10 PM   #924
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2nd INT for Sawyer, well done. Someone should tell him they stop keeping track after 60 minutes though.
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Old 11-30-2024, 05:58 PM   #925
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Hmm, you're that confident that your defense will make a stop and get the ball back to the offense with enough time to score a TD Mario?
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Old 11-30-2024, 06:04 PM   #926
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Hmm, you're that confident that your defense will make a stop and get the ball back to the offense with enough time to score a TD Mario?

Mario is a special kind of stupid.

Any success in Miami at this point is in spite of that dumb SOB, not because of him.
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Old 11-30-2024, 06:06 PM   #927
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Hmm, you're that confident that your defense will make a stop and get the ball back to the offense with enough time to score a TD Mario?

Even if they got the TD, Syracuse would just be kicking a FG to win it instead of running out the clock.
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Old 11-30-2024, 06:11 PM   #928
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Clemson and Miami losing might just put Bama in the playoffs.
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Old 11-30-2024, 06:14 PM   #929
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So I saw someone mention that Mel Tucker has more wins over Michigan than Ryan Day.
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Old 11-30-2024, 06:15 PM   #930
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The Hogs sucked but they didn't suck as much as some of their other losses.

And there was freaking snow on the ground. Can't expect Arkansas boys to play well in the snow.

Happy with 6-6 in the regular season and Liberty/Birmingham bowl.
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Old 11-30-2024, 06:25 PM   #931
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Old 11-30-2024, 06:39 PM   #932
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Old 11-30-2024, 06:41 PM   #933
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Looks like flag planting by the enemy was just as popular in Chapel Hill as it was in Columbus.
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Old 11-30-2024, 06:57 PM   #934
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I don't know if anyone watched the EKU/Villanova playoff game today, but holy crap, the refs just screwed EKU over and then almost gave it back. They needed a TD, and on the last play of the game, the QB hit the wide open receiver in the back of the endzone as time expired, but he was out of bounds. It was brutal.


They screwed them by calling an obvious strip sack touchdown back as an incomplete pass on review. The QB started a shovel pass, clearly pulled it down as he was getting sacked, then got stripped. The EKU head coach was flagged for an unsportmanlike penalty for getting in the side judges face afterward. It was just an incredible hot mess.
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Old 11-30-2024, 08:24 PM   #935
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Old 11-30-2024, 09:04 PM   #936
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Old 12-01-2024, 06:07 AM   #937
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So if I'm looking at it right, it currently seems like SMU and Boise are set up for byes in the first round. Not sure who had that on their bingo cards.
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Old 12-01-2024, 08:37 AM   #938
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So has this flag planting thing always been a thing? There were a bunch of brawls and scuffles yesterday for trying to plant your flag in the opponent's logo and I just don't get it. Like FSU is 1-10 or something, so what is the point of that? It seems like a really easy thing for the NCAA to prevent/police, but I just don't get it. I guess the same goes for dancing on the logo...
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Old 12-01-2024, 09:07 AM   #939
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There's also a very real chance the ACC champ could get left out of the playoffs again if Clemson wins next week. They'll almost certainly drop below the ISU and ASU and likely below Tulane.

If Tulane and Boise win next week, the top 5 conference winners would be the Big Ten, SEC, MWC, Big 12 and AAC. And depending on how far Miami falls and how far SMU would fall with a Clemson loss, the ACC may get left out entirely.
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Old 12-01-2024, 09:13 AM   #940
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So if I'm looking at it right, it currently seems like SMU and Boise are set up for byes in the first round. Not sure who had that on their bingo cards.

Yeah, something tells me there may have to be a little tweaking done to this system.
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Old 12-01-2024, 09:37 AM   #941
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If conferences were like they were when this system was created,and we see Oregon, Penn State, Texas, and Georgia get byes, we'd think it worked fine. I'm not sure what you tweak though, since I doubt they will make less playoff teams. Maybe less byes? Two byes seems like you're just slotting B1G and SEC in there, and three byes seems like you're giving one to someone who doesn't deserve it.
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Old 12-01-2024, 10:22 AM   #942
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When the next contract comes up for '26, the SEC and Big Ten will demand (and get) 2 autobids and guaranteed byes in a 14 or 16 team system
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Old 12-01-2024, 10:37 AM   #943
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Old 12-01-2024, 12:31 PM   #944
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So has this flag planting thing always been a thing? There were a bunch of brawls and scuffles yesterday for trying to plant your flag in the opponent's logo and I just don't get it. Like FSU is 1-10 or something, so what is the point of that? It seems like a really easy thing for the NCAA to prevent/police, but I just don't get it. I guess the same goes for dancing on the logo...

From whose side don't you get it? These were contests between hated rivals to determine dominance for the next 364 days. Making have to watch as that flag is like making them sign the surrender treaty.

Maybe we have not done a good job teaching the kiddos the difference between real hate and sports hate.

EDIT: Also watching OSU defended their logo/field after the game was over, there is no way the home teams in the later games were going to tolerate such disrespect.
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Old 12-01-2024, 12:48 PM   #945
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I wonder what the consequences will be? As much as I hate to see it, the opponents 'disparaging' your logo, or field, is in very poor taste, and sportsmanship. it's not related to the game, it's not what I'd teach my players. Having said that, if they do it, you don't respond. You don't react, because the game is over and that's all that matters.

I sort of feel like the players who did respond should be suspended for some length of time. Miss the playoffs, bowl game, whatever.
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Old 12-01-2024, 12:59 PM   #946
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I wonder what the consequences will be? As much as I hate to see it, the opponents 'disparaging' your logo, or field, is in very poor taste, and sportsmanship. it's not related to the game, it's not what I'd teach my players. Having said that, if they do it, you don't respond. You don't react, because the game is over and that's all that matters.

I sort of feel like the players who did respond should be suspended for some length of time. Miss the playoffs, bowl game, whatever.

That is what is different IMO. We used to say if you don't want them celebrating on your field, don't lose the game.
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Old 12-01-2024, 01:07 PM   #947
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I wonder what the consequences will be? As much as I hate to see it, the opponents 'disparaging' your logo, or field, is in very poor taste, and sportsmanship. it's not related to the game, it's not what I'd teach my players. Having said that, if they do it, you don't respond. You don't react, because the game is over and that's all that matters.

I sort of feel like the players who did respond should be suspended for some length of time. Miss the playoffs, bowl game, whatever.

Yep. And might as well make a rule. It's either forbidden, and only the head coaches are allowed in the middle of the field for a handshake, or it's approved and the home team isn't allowed in the middle of the field, and has to let the visiting team do their stuff.

I personally don't care which, since I think the whole flag thing is stupid, but there's no point allowing potential violence by letting it go like this.
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Old 12-01-2024, 01:12 PM   #948
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It's been happening around college football for years. The trend apparently started with Baker Mayfield in Columbus in 2017.

It is undoubtedly in poor taste. It will probably get banned now, though there's no doubt players will find some other way to express similar sentiment.

Mayfield was quoted as saying he did it because he felt the Ohio State players were disrespectful the previous year in gathering to sing their fight song after winning in Norman.

The issue, though, since we can't legislate taste, is the reaction. Michigan players didn't react when Texas planted their flag on the logo back in September. The message was pretty clear - if you don't like it, don't lose. Which seems like a very football thing to say.

I don't know if Ohio State is the first team to come back on the field and "defend the logo", but, from Mayfield's response, I'd say that if you're disrespected, that's damned good locker-room fuel for the next game.

When Kal-El Mullings was interviewed on camera after the game (and before the pepper-spraying, I think), he said, "they gotta learn how to lose." Isn't that what sports should teach? Learn how to lose and learn how to win. It's why we all shake hands with the guy we've been battling for the last three hours.
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Old 12-01-2024, 01:43 PM   #949
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There's also a very real chance the ACC champ could get left out of the playoffs again if Clemson wins next week. They'll almost certainly drop below the ISU and ASU and likely below Tulane.

If Tulane and Boise win next week, the top 5 conference winners would be the Big Ten, SEC, MWC, Big 12 and AAC. And depending on how far Miami falls and how far SMU would fall with a Clemson loss, the ACC may get left out entirely.

After seeing Miami yesterday, I'd be okay with that frankly. Clemson's offense is almost as bad as Miami's defense.

However ... with Tulane's loss to Memphis aren't they pretty much out of that picture?

They were 5 places behind Clemson before this weekend's game. Tulane's loss was considerably worse than Clemson's. So if both won their conference title game in bounceback victories then Clemson stay ahead of them ... right?
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I don't see the issue. Rivalries are tense and some pushing and shoving is going to happen.
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