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Old 11-29-2006, 05:38 PM   #701
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So, BrianD was robbed. Lathum says he was robbed. Didn't DC or someone also say they were robbed?

Yes, I was robbed. I had to use some of the money I had replace what was stolen.
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Old 11-29-2006, 05:41 PM   #702
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anybody with a vote count?
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Old 11-29-2006, 05:42 PM   #703
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I am again going to challenge anybody aside from DT that's voting for me to provide a justification for the vote.

Funny you should ask because I was just looking over the quotes that made me suspect you:

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I wasn't going through Bishopgate to get to Whitechapel.

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In case it's not clear, I'm not denying being in Bishopsgate, it's just that my reason for being there wasn't because it was on the way to Whitechapel Rd.

Kinda seems like you were retracting your statement after I mentioned that I was told you were passing by there.
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Old 11-29-2006, 05:45 PM   #704
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What we keep coming back to is, I admitted to being in Bishopsgate, have refused to discuss my business there, attempted to clarify to Alan that it wasn't a case of passing through on the way to somewhere else, AND NONE OF THE THREE CRIMES WAS COMMITTED THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE!

This is insane.
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Old 11-29-2006, 05:47 PM   #705
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I wasn't going through Bishopgate to get to Whitechapel.

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anybody with a vote count?

Mr. Wednesday (6)- Bulletsponge, DaddyTorgo, Dodgerchick, Lathum, LoneStarGirl, SnDvls
DaddyTorgo (5)- AlanT, Barkeep49, Dubb93, Izulde, Ntndeacon
Lathum (2) - blade, hoopsguy
barkeep (1) - st.cronin
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Old 11-29-2006, 05:47 PM   #706
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dammit, that stupid quote keep appearing
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Old 11-29-2006, 05:49 PM   #707
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I mean, I'd understand if this involved me being spotted in Commercial or Whitechapel Rd, but to accuse me because of a misunderstanding over being spotted in Bishopsgate, even though nothing at all happened there last night?
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Old 11-29-2006, 05:52 PM   #708
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I mean, I'd understand if this involved me being spotted in Commercial or Whitechapel Rd, but to accuse me because of a misunderstanding over being spotted in Bishopsgate, even though nothing at all happened there last night?

I know nothing happened in Bishopsgate, I just felt you were trying to backtrack your statement of not being there when you were seen passing by.
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Old 11-29-2006, 05:53 PM   #709
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Well, Lathum's already voting for me, so it won't hurt me any to put a vote on him.

VOTE Lathum
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Old 11-29-2006, 05:53 PM   #710
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I know nothing happened in Bishopsgate, I just felt you were trying to backtrack your statement of not being there when you were seen passing by.

Show me the post where I said I wasn't there.
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Old 11-29-2006, 05:55 PM   #711
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Hint, you can't, because I didn't.

I clarified that I was in Bishopsgate on private business, rather than in transit to someplace else.
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Old 11-29-2006, 05:57 PM   #712
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I have a start to a circle of trust. Thus far it would include:

Hoops--I think I know what role he is playing

Blade--From the information he has presented, IE bribing the urchin, and the overal vibe I have gotten from him

Barkeep--I think I know his role as well

AlanT--I'm very confident he is playing with the same cards I was delt.

I may still be a little rusty, and there may be something that I missed that I usually wouldn't, but for right now this is what I'm working with in my COT.

Of the three suspects, I suspect Mr. Wednesday the least. There is just nothing there. The whole reason for voting him revolved around Blade, and Blade has since moved his vote. This means either Blade re-read his PM and realized he was wrong, or he was just never really convinced.

I have nothing on DT at all. This is a bad thing for him. I have a little bit of a read on almost everyone in the game, DT is not one of them.

Lathum is interesting. Hoops is nearly convinced he is bad, and Lathum was the only one in the district who did not answer Wednesday's call. With actual evidence against Lathum, I think I may change my vote.

Of these four, they have voted for:

Blade and Hoops both on Lathum

Alan and Barkeep are on DaddyTorgo

Again, Alan is playing with the same cards I am, so I'm pretty sure he has no inside information, as for Barkeep, he would only know about the johns that have contacted him and possibly the other ladys of the night. So I think there is more hard evidence against Lathum than DT so I will...

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Old 11-29-2006, 05:58 PM   #713
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I hope that long ramble made sense to someone out there.
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Old 11-29-2006, 05:59 PM   #714
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Hint, you can't, because I didn't.

I clarified that I was in Bishopsgate on private business, rather than in transit to someplace else.

Jesus Christ, give me a minute will ya?

This was Alan's inquiry:

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oh one other question I had...

can someone tell me how you go from cavell st (to the east), to Whitechapel rd (center of town) by going through bishopgate district (to the west)?

And your response:

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I wasn't going through Bishopgate to get to Whitechapel.
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:00 PM   #715
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I wasn't going through Bishopgate to get to Whitechapel.
I think DC is dropping the "to get to Whitechapel" part and only reading "I wasn't going through Bishopsgate"

The correct way to read this is, I wasn't going through Bishopsgate to get to Whitechapel.

I was in Bishopsgate on personal business, rather than in transit to Whitechapel.
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:01 PM   #716
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I think DC is dropping the "to get to Whitechapel" part and only reading "I wasn't going through Bishopsgate"

The correct way to read this is, I wasn't going through Bishopsgate to get to Whitechapel.

I was in Bishopsgate on personal business, rather than in transit to Whitechapel.

I want to know what this private business was.
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:01 PM   #717
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Dola, particularly, pay attention to the post to which I was replying. Alan expressed confusion about why I would be in Bishopsgate if I were traveling from Cavell to Whitechapel.
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:02 PM   #718
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I want to know what this private business was.
I don't think it's appropriate to discuss at this time.
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:04 PM   #719
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I don't think it's appropriate to discuss at this time.

Well, OK, but you are on your deathbed. Right now I believe you have a two vote lead in the lynching race.
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:05 PM   #720
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I have a day action as well..i can bribe an urchin to spy on a sector one tiem a game. It cost me all of my gold, but i figured night 1 was a good time to expect quite a few kills. I did, and sent him to commerical. He told me about the WW who killed tyrith in his sleep, and told me the only other player in the area was barkeep. So i think you can imagine who my suspect is today. From the urchin i know he was in commercial last night, i know the WW killed tyrith in commerical last night, and the PM said barkeep was the only other player there. So i take that to mean he killed tyrith.

I should have sent him to white-chapel with the 2 kills since it was a one time gig, but i figured the bad guys would avoid the most populous street. I got lucky with one though. Now i have no gold, and i make it back at only 2 gold a day so it will be 5 days until i can hire another spy. But i figured it better i say this now then die with this knowledge

ok, i was rereading things from yesterday looking for things alan said i missed, and noticed this post from Blade.

if blade spent all his money on an urchin for last night, what was he doing out at the same time?

hookers and opium cost 5 shillings a piece, and Alan and I have both stated that we tried to buy the urchin....i bid 6 and didnt get it, so if blade started with the same 10 shillings I had, why was he out at all last night, since he spent didnt have the cash to do anything. (We know he was out since he went to the alarm raised by mr W.)

hopefully he will be back to answer this for me.
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:09 PM   #721
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Well, OK, but you are on your deathbed. Right now I believe you have a two vote lead in the lynching race.

I think we both have enough experience to appreciate the reasons why I'm trying to avoid going into more detail.

(I should say the possible reasons... not all of them are good... but under the circumstances, putting me up as a suspect is incredibly bad judgement.)
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:11 PM   #722
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Well, OK, but you are on your deathbed.
It's 6-4-4, which isn't enough to lynch. Still plenty of time to swing things without going into unnecessary detail.
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:20 PM   #723
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Sometimes I wonder why I even bother, I thought this game would be different because of the tiny nugget of knowledge I might get; but it proves that I'm completely clueless once again and I guess I'm grasping for whatever. Every single freaking game, someone comes out with the same thing, "I know something but can't disclose it" and time and time again, I fall for it... why? Why? That's WW for ya, yes, I know.

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Old 11-29-2006, 06:21 PM   #724
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After reading through what was posted this afternoon, I don't think Mr. Wednesday or Daddy Torgo is the person we should go for. Hoops has good instincts so I'll go with

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Old 11-29-2006, 06:22 PM   #725
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another point on blades post that i quoted above....first he says he can pay an urchin to spy on a sector once per game....then he says he can do it again in 5 days, after earning 2 shillings per day

for those of you that are saying that i am just latching onto the normal londoner information other people are providing, i have a question..........is you ability to hire an urchin only a one time action...i know mine isnt...i can try to hire one each day if i have the money for it (how would i know that if it wasnt really my role)....i also earn 3 shillings a day, as i think everyone else has said they do (i dont expect any one to give me any slack for this statement, since numerous other people have already made it)
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:23 PM   #726
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It's 6-4-4, which isn't enough to lynch. Still plenty of time to swing things without going into unnecessary detail.

I respect that and I think I'm starting to place your role. However I think you are mistaken on the lynch number. We have 20 players left. We need 1/3 of that, 20 divided by 3 is 6.67 repeating of course.

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This vote is subject to only one rule--the lynch candidate must have at least one-third of the available voters, rounded down to the next whole number.

So unless I am mistaken that rounds the lynch number down to 6. Someone double check that please.
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:26 PM   #727
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I respect that and I think I'm starting to place your role. However I think you are mistaken on the lynch number. We have 20 players left. We need 1/3 of that, 20 divided by 3 is 6.67 repeating of course.



So unless I am mistaken that rounds the lynch number down to 6. Someone double check that please.

we started at 24, sent JE to an orphanage, then we lost 3 last night, which makes 20....your math works out to me.
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:27 PM   #728
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Er, right. Anyway, I still think it's tight enough right now.
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:31 PM   #729
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in light of the more detailed info from Hoops
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:35 PM   #730
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FWIW Weds. I don't believe that you are bad, and there are several roles that would lead to him being out and about at night in this game people. So I don't see him being "out and about" as something sinister.

I still have a couple hours to change my vote and I can feel my caffeine denial headache coming on. But I think that this point by dubb is interesting:

Lathum was the only one in the district who did not answer Wednesday's call.

Seems like there might be something there. Back in a bit (hour tops)
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:37 PM   #731
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But I think that this point by dubb is interesting:

Lathum was the only one in the district who did not answer Wednesday's call.

Seems like there might be something there. Back in a bit (hour tops)

I would add that that information came directly from Hoops.
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:43 PM   #732
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:48 PM   #733
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wow cronin, that's a lot more important that WW, I hope everything turns out ok
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:50 PM   #734
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can i ask all the people that are currently in the thread why none of you have commented on the discrpancies i pointed out regarding blade


the only reason i havent voted for him is because i would like to hear from him first.
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:53 PM   #735
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Sometimes I wonder why I even bother, I thought this game would be different because of the tiny nugget of knowledge I might get; but it proves that I'm completely clueless once again and I guess I'm grasping for whatever. Every single freaking game, someone comes out with the same thing, "I know something but can't disclose it" and time and time again, I fall for it... why? Why? That's WW for ya, yes, I know.

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I'll be out for a while.


Grr why me?

Unvote me of the fluffy bunny gets it!
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Old 11-29-2006, 06:55 PM   #736
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My father has had a heart attack. I am not officially dropping out of the game, yet, but my participation will be limited for a bit.

aww thats bad news. god i hope hes going to be ok
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Old 11-29-2006, 07:03 PM   #737
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My father has had a heart attack. I am not officially dropping out of the game, yet, but my participation will be limited for a bit.

Thats horrible news, I hope he is ok and everything turns out well.
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Old 11-29-2006, 07:04 PM   #738
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i was hoping for some additonal input on my blade observations, but since no one seems to care, i will go with the other story that has holes in it

vote lathum
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Old 11-29-2006, 07:18 PM   #740
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Old 11-29-2006, 07:19 PM   #741
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god Cronin. I think the prayers of London good and (i would assume) bad are with you! hope everything is alright

oh yeah and i'm just leaving for coffee now. damm my madden Texans for that 27-24 squeaker over LJ and the Chiefs keeping me home.
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Old 11-29-2006, 07:22 PM   #742
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Can you vouch for bullet then, also?

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Old 11-29-2006, 07:27 PM   #743
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Old 11-29-2006, 07:28 PM   #744
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Sorry to hear that, cronin.

The Lathum argument makes sense to me.

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Old 11-29-2006, 07:28 PM   #745
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As soon as I realized it was stolen from me. Without quoting my PM I briskly walked into an alley to persue the thief, perhaps hoops can confirm this is somewhat accurate, If I didn't run to white chappel where did I go?

Lathum, I know you were in Cavell and that you left Cavell. I don't have any other information on the matter, but I do find it curious that the other people I saw in Cavell who left were all seen by Mr. Wednesday. That is an awfully big part of my motivation in voting for you.

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path, I knew hoops could vouch I was in that district since it was him (her?) I was going to see.

Hmmm, I'm not sure what to make of this. I know that I do not have the ability to declare that I'm going to find a specific person - instead I can declare what district to visit. Do other people have the ability to specify a person instead of a zone with their actions? Or is this just an attempt to get me to admit to a role that I may or may not have?
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Old 11-29-2006, 07:29 PM   #746
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saldana, I noted your observation.

As I recall, Blade isn't going to be back until later.
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Old 11-29-2006, 07:31 PM   #747
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saldana, I noted your observation.

As I recall, Blade isn't going to be back until later.

Im here for the next hour, but i have to write a paper in that time span and really need to focus on it...anyone have a question that cant wait until late tonight?
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Saldana, I agree there are some inconsistencies to be found in Blade's versions of how his mechanic works. But he was the first person to come out with the urchin ability that has been widely commented upon since that time. That carried a decent amount of weight for me. Enough that I, for now, will treat incongruent statements from Blade as in keeping with his sometimes wild/erratic play as a good guy.

I think it is a point worth scrutinizing further if there is sufficient push-back from people claiming the same role. Dubb, Alan, Path, others ... your thoughts?
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Old 11-29-2006, 07:41 PM   #749
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My father has had a heart attack. I am not officially dropping out of the game, yet, but my participation will be limited for a bit.

Sorry to hear that.

I hope he will be alright.
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Old 11-29-2006, 07:43 PM   #750
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Hmmm, I'm not sure what to make of this. I know that I do not have the ability to declare that I'm going to find a specific person - instead I can declare what district to visit. Do other people have the ability to specify a person instead of a zone with their actions? Or is this just an attempt to get me to admit to a role that I may or may not have?

I can only decide which area of the district to visit.
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