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Old 06-21-2014, 11:44 AM   #1
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Daytime Dynasty Series #2: FROM SIXTH TO FIRST

Okay so changing it up.

Going to take over a team that's not doing so well, but that isn't an expansion team. The challenge is, to scour the league for non-starters -- quality 6th men who should be starters -- we will trade the roster of the team we take over to acquire those guys piece by piece. Then we'll give them all four years like LeBron & company had to play together and we'll see how they do.

Curious to see how a team like that competes night in and night out and whether there's a chance they can even compete for a championship.


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Old 06-21-2014, 09:13 PM   #2
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Using the same base file from Episode 1, taking over the Seattle Supersonics, who after a string of successful years which culminated with a title in 1987 and back three straight Finals appearances from 1988-1990, on en route to their 3rd straight non-playoff season finishing the 1998 season at 16-66.

Clyde Drexler, their star has been here his whole career but he's 37 and on the downslope of his career.

The house rules:
-Everyone on the roster gets dealt for someone else. No one can come back, even if it's a guy whose been there forever or a dude with talent who might be able to help them. Oh well.
- Can only acquire players who were not starters on their previous teams. Changed my mind on foreign guys, so long as they've never played in the NBA as a starter.

Goals:
- See how far the team can get in a season. Possibly more, if it's interesting at all.

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Old 06-21-2014, 10:14 PM   #3
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So here's the roster of guys we need to deal. Right now, just putting together a team for one year and we'll see what happens after that.

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Seattle SuperSonics Career Averages Player Pos Gm Gs Min Pts Orb Reb Ast Stl Blk To Fls +/-test test test test test ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Clyde Drexler SF 1228 1228 34.9 21.8 2.4 6.3 6.2 3.2 0.5 3.3 3.2 3.8 Allen Iverson PG 246 244 35.7 17.0 0.9 3.1 4.7 2.2 0.1 4.1 2.1 -5.8 Charles Smith PF 875 874 31.5 16.6 1.7 5.2 1.9 0.8 0.8 2.4 3.7 2.4 Rex Chapman SG 828 368 27.1 12.8 0.7 2.6 2.7 1.1 0.1 2.3 2.0 -2.8 Zydrunas Ilgauskas C 164 164 32.0 12.1 2.2 6.8 1.6 0.5 1.1 2.0 3.6 -6.2 Gary Grant SG 827 661 32.7 9.4 0.9 3.3 6.7 2.7 0.1 2.5 2.5 -1.9 Damon Stoudamire PG 328 175 24.8 8.6 0.6 2.1 4.5 0.7 0.0 2.0 1.4 -2.1 Dennis Hopson SF 689 88 16.9 6.1 0.9 2.3 1.4 1.2 0.2 1.4 2.1 -1.8 Ricky Davis SG 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 Felipe Lopez SG 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0

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Old 06-22-2014, 02:05 AM   #4
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Okay so, this sixth man trading thing is basically akin to an expansion draft in a sense. But that's all good.

So here are the 1 for 1 acquisitions we'll be making. I'll do a season/team preview before the start of the year once we have it all together.

Tuomas Nenonen, SF (76ers, 5.8 MPG 2.7 PPG last yr)
Ervin Johnson, C (Bullets, 15.3 MPG, 3.6 PPG, 3.9 RPG)
Eddy Hull, PG (Celtics, 2.6 MPG, 1.4 PPG)
Ezra Kay, PF (Condors, 20.3 MPG, 10.5 PPG)
Dominik Skala, C (Nuggets, 19.9 MPG, 15 starts, 4.6 RPG)
Didier Chizuoke, SG, (Suns, 6.3 MPG, 2.0 PPG)

Rather than go out and get a roster of sixth men, I just opted to take six, with the idea being that you basically just take a roster of six guys and meld them with your existing roster (Whoever is left) and see how it goes from there, presuming you're actually starting these dudes, so that your roster of six men aren't like 12th men.

Funny sidenote, Michael Jordan is good in this league but not amazing. He's been with the Pacers his whole career and I orchestrated a deal to send him to New York with the Knicks.

The last guy we got is Tharon Mayes, who in this game for whatever reason seems to have elite level talent but has never been a starter anywhere, which makes him eligible to be signed. In real life, he played in 24 NBA games before going overseas.

Anyway...
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Old 06-22-2014, 02:32 AM   #5
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I drafted SG Vlasi Khavanov, who was Russian league MVP at age 21 last year, figuring he'd help. The reality is, the experiment didn't work so well.

The Sonics went 11-71, even worse than they were the year before and will miss the post-season for the 4th straight year. Cohension was good, but talent was bad. I think part of the problem was the lack of veteran leadership, the oldest guy we had was 32 year old Ervin Johnson. I'm playing stats only, so when all you have to go on is colors & stats, it leads to some unpredictability and well...that's what happened here.

The statistical post-mortem is to come. I am somewhat interested in seeing if you paired this club with different guys whether they'd be any better or not. But a league with only 27 teams means that at least one more superstar -- paired with a salary cap that's only around $57 million means that more teams have more talent and it takes a lot more elite players to cobble together a title team.

So in my random sample of one season, no, you can't take sixth men and think you're gonna put together a playoff team because it's not happening. Not enough parity to make that possible without some seasoned vets joining forces with them, maybe.

If I bent the rules and enabled former starters who are over the hill, say a guy like Charles Barkley who is in Phoenix but not starting, to a team like this it might help. But probably not enough to make a huge difference.
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Old 06-22-2014, 02:33 AM   #6
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Seattle SuperSonics Averages Player Pos Gm Gs Min Pts Orb Reb Ast Stl Blk To Fls +/-test test test test test ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Secondo Genovesi PG 82 82 34.4 14.6 1.2 4.1 3.0 1.2 0.2 3.5 2.8 -12.4 Vlasi Khavanov SF 77 39 28.6 11.6 1.4 5.9 2.9 1.1 0.1 1.6 3.3 -9.8 Casey Abernathy PF 82 32 28.2 16.1 1.2 3.8 1.5 1.8 0.2 2.1 3.5 -7.6 Dominik Skala C 82 50 23.5 8.7 1.4 4.8 1.0 0.3 0.1 1.8 2.6 -9.2 Tharon Mayes PG 82 37 21.6 8.0 0.5 1.7 2.3 2.1 0.1 1.6 3.0 -7.1 Tuomas Nenonen PF 82 50 21.5 7.2 1.2 3.1 2.0 0.6 0.1 1.1 3.1 -8.7 Ervin Johnson C 82 32 21.3 4.6 1.8 5.4 1.0 0.5 1.0 1.2 3.0 -4.9 Eddy Hull SG 82 38 20.6 11.7 0.6 2.9 1.6 0.5 0.1 1.8 1.6 -6.8 Trent Thibodeau SG 81 0 17.3 10.5 0.4 1.5 1.7 1.0 0.0 1.8 1.1 -3.9 Didier Chizuoke SF 70 50 17.0 5.1 0.4 2.6 0.9 0.6 0.0 0.9 1.0 -6.0 Ezra Kay SF 80 0 9.3 4.1 0.3 1.5 0.8 0.6 0.1 0.7 0.9 -1.8 Felipe Lopez SF 30 0 2.1 0.6 0.2 0.2 0.2 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.1 0.2 Trym Hpnes C 40 0 1.9 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.0 0.2 0.2 0.6

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1999 NBA Standings ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ATLANTIC W L PCT HOME DIV CONF ---------------------------------------------------- Celtics 66 16 .805 33-8 24-6 45-11 Whalers 57 25 .695 38-3 19-11 37-19 Heat 51 31 .622 33-8 16-14 33-23 76ers 51 31 .622 31-10 16-14 34-22 Nets 38 44 .463 29-12 12-18 23-33 Bullets 30 52 .366 19-22 11-19 21-35 Knicks 23 59 .280 14-27 7-23 16-40 ---------------------------------------------------- CENTRAL W L PCT HOME DIV CONF ---------------------------------------------------- Pistons 58 24 .707 33-8 19-11 39-17 Hawks 55 27 .671 33-8 24-6 38-18 Condors 46 36 .561 28-13 19-11 29-27 Cavaliers 42 40 .512 24-17 19-11 30-26 Pacers 39 43 .476 24-17 13-17 24-32 Bulls 22 60 .268 16-25 6-24 12-44 Hornets 16 66 .195 10-31 5-25 11-45 ---------------------------------------------------- MIDWEST W L PCT HOME DIV CONF ---------------------------------------------------- Rockets 57 25 .695 30-11 18-6 37-17 Raptors 56 26 .683 31-10 16-7 35-19 Jazz 50 32 .610 31-10 14-7 36-18 Lakers 35 47 .427 20-21 8-15 21-33 Mavericks 31 51 .378 20-21 7-15 22-32 Spurs 27 55 .329 15-26 5-18 21-33 ---------------------------------------------------- PACIFIC W L PCT HOME DIV CONF ---------------------------------------------------- Warriors 57 25 .695 31-10 21-5 44-10 Nuggets 51 31 .622 27-14 18-8 34-20 Suns 44 38 .537 27-14 19-9 31-23 Stars 36 46 .439 25-16 14-13 25-29 Amigos 30 52 .366 17-24 10-18 19-35 Trail Blazers 28 54 .341 17-24 9-18 19-35 SuperSonics 11 71 .134 10-31 4-24 7-47
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Old 06-22-2014, 02:48 AM   #7
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Seattle SuperSonics Efficiency Player Pos TS% AstR ToR Usg ORR DRR RR PER VA EWA O Eff D Efftest test test test test ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Trent Thibodeau SG .588 14.0 14.1 25.8 2.8 8.3 5.5 17.8 152.8 5.1 100.6 111.7 Casey Abernathy PF .576 8.4 11.7 23.3 5.1 11.2 8.0 17.1 192.7 6.4 99.9 112.9 Eddy Hull SG .591 12.1 13.6 23.6 3.7 13.8 8.6 15.6 128.8 4.3 99.9 115.3 Ezra Kay SF .556 16.0 13.4 19.9 3.8 16.1 9.6 14.9 49.0 1.6 98.6 109.7 Vlasi Khavanov SF .471 17.1 9.7 20.7 5.6 19.0 12.0 12.0 48.8 1.6 98.5 115.2 Tharon Mayes PG .494 19.1 13.3 19.2 2.6 7.1 4.7 11.5 12.6 0.4 99.5 114.5 Secondo Genovesi PG .553 15.4 17.7 20.3 3.9 10.4 7.1 11.4 18.3 0.6 99.5 116.5 Felipe Lopez SF .500 21.4 7.1 15.1 9.6 5.0 7.6 11.0 0.5 0.0 104.3 101.8 Tuomas Nenonen PF .522 20.3 10.8 16.0 6.4 10.9 8.5 10.9 -17.0 -0.6 99.9 119.0 Didier Chizuoke SF .538 14.4 13.3 13.8 2.5 16.6 9.5 9.7 -14.6 -0.5 98.6 114.4 Ervin Johnson C .490 14.7 16.8 11.6 9.2 20.8 14.7 9.6 -26.5 -0.9 99.9 110.3 Dominik Skala C .519 9.3 16.1 17.8 7.1 17.8 12.3 9.4 -34.9 -1.2 99.0 117.6 Trym Hpnes C .000 38.5 46.2 5.0 2.0 3.9 3.0 -1.6 -13.6 -0.5 115.4 96.2

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1999 NBA Player Stats Leaders # Player Pos Team Gms Min OEff DEff PER ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 Eero Ahonen SG SJO 76 34.8 123.8 102.4 46.4 2 Jan Hrby SF STL 82 35.5 120.3 106.3 40.7 3 J.Blanchard PG MIA 82 36.8 116.6 107.9 37.6 4 Harvey Crabb PG HOU 82 36.4 115.3 103.1 37.4 5 Fabricio Alada SF NOL 82 36.3 115.5 106.9 35.5 6 S.O'Neal C BOS 82 34.9 119.6 104.5 33.5 7 N.Chandraseka SG BKN 76 36.3 116.9 113.4 33.4 8 Mo Shih SF DEN 69 36.8 117.0 106.7 33.2 9 Chuma Afiba SF HFD 82 35.9 120.2 107.6 32.9 10 H.Vishnavi PG UTA 82 35.8 119.9 109.1 32.8 11 Miko Joenlahti SF BOS 82 35.7 119.5 102.8 32.3 12 Mende Riso PG PHI 82 31.5 116.5 103.1 29.0 13 Tim Duncan C DET 82 36.8 118.6 109.9 28.0 14 Nikolay Kakora PG LAL 82 37.0 110.6 113.1 25.8 15 A.Hardaway SF WAS 82 36.5 104.7 105.8 25.3 16 Paul Pierce PF PIT 82 33.9 109.1 105.5 25.1 17 Grant Hill PF PHI 82 34.3 115.6 104.9 24.8 18 Jospeh Clements PG DET 82 33.7 119.1 110.0 24.7 19 Shawn Kemp C IND 82 33.8 111.6 107.8 24.3 20 Ray Allen SG POR 75 35.7 109.6 118.1 24.0 21 Sulo Parviainen PF HOU 82 35.5 115.7 104.8 22.8 22 Felipe Carranza SF IND 82 35.5 111.7 107.7 22.7 23 Kobe Bryant SF DAL 82 34.0 109.1 113.4 22.6 24 Kevin Garnett C MIN 82 37.2 107.7 109.5 21.8 25 Jim Jackson SF PHX 82 36.1 112.6 110.7 21.3 26 Tim Hardaway PG DEN 82 35.2 115.2 106.5 21.0 27 Steve Smith SG PHX 82 36.3 112.9 112.3 20.7 28 Steve Nash SG MIN 66 36.4 109.2 110.2 20.5 29 Terry Mills PF SJO 82 34.9 121.3 103.6 20.5 30 Rasheed Wallace C UTA 82 35.6 119.1 110.0 20.1 31 Travis Best PG CLE 82 33.5 113.3 112.0 19.7 32 Elden Campbell C SAS 82 34.1 104.7 111.9 19.7 33 S.Mapouras PF HFD 82 34.8 120.2 108.4 19.5 34 Patrick Jacques C ANA 82 35.9 107.0 112.8 19.4 35 C.Laettner C WAS 82 31.8 105.9 107.9 19.3 36 Terrell Brandon PG STL 82 35.8 120.0 106.7 19.3 37 Billy Beauchamp PF POR 82 17.6 108.8 111.6 19.0 38 Sean Elliott SF SAS 82 14.6 105.0 106.3 18.9 39 Chris Webber PF CHI 82 35.4 105.1 114.7 18.6 # Player Pos Team Gms Min OEff DEff PER ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 40 Sam Cassell SG ANA 82 35.4 106.1 112.1 18.5 41 Dushane Fields SF MIN 80 31.2 108.4 108.9 18.5 42 C.Billups PG PHX 75 35.4 113.7 112.2 18.4 43 Antoine Walker PF CLE 75 32.6 113.1 112.3 18.4 44 Larry Johnson PF NOL 82 36.8 113.5 108.6 18.3 45 Vince Carter SG DEN 80 34.1 115.9 105.8 18.2 46 Jalen Rose SG UTA 75 34.3 117.1 106.7 18.2 47 G.Muresan PF BOS 82 32.8 120.1 102.5 18.1 48 Trent Thibodeau SG SEA 81 17.3 100.6 111.7 17.8 49 Tracy McGrady SF SAS 82 34.4 103.7 115.3 17.6 50 Juwan Howard PF DEN 82 37.8 114.0 106.2 17.5 51 Irving McKeever PF MIA 82 35.6 113.5 107.6 17.4 52 Greg Anthony PG NYK 82 13.7 104.6 107.7 17.1 53 Denver Colby PF NYK 81 12.6 110.8 108.2 17.1 54 Casey Abernathy PF SEA 82 28.2 99.9 112.9 17.1 55 Anthony Peeler SG CHR 81 33.6 103.9 114.3 17.1 56 Antonio McDyess PF DAL 82 33.1 108.2 114.1 17.0 57 Stephon Marbury PG BKN 82 34.8 117.4 116.1 17.0 58 Andre Miller SG DET 73 23.0 116.9 111.2 16.8 59 Jon Barry SF CLE 82 33.8 112.0 112.5 16.8 60 Kenny Anderson PG CHI 82 35.8 104.2 114.4 16.7 61 Alan Henderson PF SAS 82 33.5 103.3 112.7 16.7 62 Simon Sykora PG HFD 82 34.5 120.1 107.3 16.5 63 Cliff Robinson PF LAL 82 33.4 111.1 111.6 16.5 64 Antawn Jamison PF CHR 79 17.5 101.9 115.3 16.5 65 Shon Bertram PG PHX 82 14.8 105.6 109.7 16.4 66 Arsene Langlois SF CHI 82 12.6 101.3 110.2 16.4 67 J.Stackhouse PG ANA 81 14.0 106.0 110.4 16.4 68 W.Winstead SG IND 82 14.3 106.6 108.4 16.3 69 Justise Aldrich SG MIA 82 35.4 116.4 109.9 16.2 70 Z.Ilgauskas C CHI 82 33.3 105.7 115.5 16.2 71 Clyde Drexler SF PIT 74 33.1 112.1 107.7 16.2 72 Keith Van Horn PF CHR 82 31.1 103.0 113.5 16.2 73 Hubert Davis SG DAL 82 34.9 108.2 115.7 16.1 74 Toni Kukoc C CLE 82 35.2 111.6 110.9 16.1 75 Glenn Robinson SF POR 82 14.0 107.1 111.2 16.0 76 Rodney Rogers PF UTA 76 31.0 119.2 107.2 16.0 77 Charlie Ward SG CLE 82 34.2 111.0 110.6 16.0 78 Scottie Pippen PF NYK 82 35.6 101.2 113.1 16.0 79 Derek Fisher PG NOL 82 36.8 114.6 109.5 15.9 # Player Pos Team Gms Min OEff DEff PER ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 80 Joe Smith C STL 82 31.6 119.6 105.2 15.8 81 Dino Radja C ANA 82 22.0 107.7 113.4 15.8 82 Jason Kidd SG HFD 82 37.4 118.1 109.1 15.8 83 Shawn Bradley C PIT 82 32.2 107.4 104.4 15.6 84 Eddy Hull SG SEA 82 20.6 99.9 115.3 15.6 85 Hakeem Olajuwon C PIT 82 25.7 108.6 109.4 15.6 86 Jamal Mashburn SF HFD 82 13.1 105.1 110.5 15.6 87 Oliver Miller PF CLE 82 15.7 102.0 108.7 15.5 88 Dirk Nowitzki C LAL 82 37.0 109.9 113.0 15.5 89 Adam Keefe PF DET 82 24.4 116.9 111.2 15.4 90 Eric Murdock PG BKN 82 13.0 102.8 108.0 15.4 91 Rick Fox SF DET 82 14.4 111.6 102.9 15.4 92 David Wesley PG DAL 82 18.6 101.6 108.1 15.4 93 Ervin Snyder SF POR 82 33.9 110.0 117.3 15.3 94 S.Abdur-Rahim PF HOU 74 12.7 105.3 105.2 15.3 95 Ben Wallace C NOL 82 23.9 110.4 107.1 15.3 96 Stacey Augmon PF MIN 82 25.5 104.9 109.1 15.1 97 Elliot Perry PG MIA 75 11.6 98.2 106.0 15.1 98 Steve Francis SG NYK 82 32.3 103.9 111.2 15.0 99 Tho Dupont PF DET 82 29.6 120.4 109.6 15.0 100 Michael Jordan SF NYK 82 35.3 101.4 112.7 14.9 101 Ezra Kay SF SEA 80 9.3 98.6 109.7 14.9 102 Hersey Hawkins SG STL 80 32.0 119.0 106.5 14.9 103 Glen Rice PF UTA 82 17.5 110.0 112.4 14.8 104 Brent Barry SF BKN 82 33.9 113.1 112.8 14.8 105 Bonzi Wells SF LAL 82 23.1 111.7 112.2 14.7 106 D.Armstrong PG SJO 82 33.8 121.9 103.4 14.7 107 Voshon Lenard SF NYK 82 13.2 110.6 109.5 14.7 108 Danny Manning C HFD 82 33.9 118.4 108.3 14.7 109 Rod Strickland PG CLE 82 14.3 102.5 107.4 14.7 110 Tuan Mayhew SG BOS 78 34.1 118.6 102.5 14.6 111 John Crotty PG NYK 82 34.2 103.4 113.4 14.6 112 Lindsey Hunter SG PIT 82 24.3 108.9 107.8 14.6 113 Kendall Gill SF CHR 82 34.1 102.8 115.4 14.4 114 Allen Iverson PG PIT 77 35.8 108.3 107.2 14.3 115 Nick Anderson SG PHI 82 36.3 112.1 104.8 14.2 116 Mitch Richmond SF DEN 82 15.1 104.6 108.2 14.2 117 Kerry Kittles SG DET 82 36.8 119.1 109.5 14.2 118 Eric Piatkowski PF IND 81 33.4 112.0 108.5 14.2 119 Danny Fortson PF LAL 82 13.9 106.7 111.7 14.2 # Player Pos Team Gms Min OEff DEff PER ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 120 Mike Bibby SG CHI 82 24.1 103.7 115.7 14.2 121 Carlos Colon SG PIT 82 33.5 107.7 104.5 14.0 122 V.Bogicevic SG HOU 82 36.5 112.3 103.9 14.0 123 Stanley Roberts C POR 82 34.1 109.4 115.9 13.9 124 Vlade Divac C PHI 82 33.5 114.7 105.6 13.9 125 Bryon Russell SF PHI 82 34.8 110.6 103.6 13.9 126 Matt Geiger C POR 82 13.7 109.0 115.0 13.9 127 D.Marshall SF SJO 82 33.7 118.5 104.7 13.8 128 Eisaku Sako SF LAL 82 35.8 109.0 111.7 13.8 129 Jermaine O'Neal PF SAS 82 23.3 104.3 114.7 13.7 130 M.Mortensen PF HFD 81 12.7 104.7 108.1 13.7 131 Chris Whitney PG CHR 72 11.7 103.0 111.4 13.6 132 Marcus Camby C NOL 77 32.9 114.2 106.2 13.5 133 Armen Gilliam C SJO 82 14.7 108.0 109.3 13.3 134 Rashard Lewis PF BKN 82 36.0 116.8 117.9 13.2 135 Alonzo Mourning C HFD 82 14.2 110.6 108.8 13.2 136 M.Abdul-Rauf PG IND 81 12.6 104.7 110.1 13.1 137 G.Schroder C MIN 80 11.4 101.2 110.5 13.1 138 Andrew Lang C HOU 82 33.4 115.2 104.9 13.1 139 Derrick McKey PF CHI 82 12.5 98.9 112.8 13.0 140 Raef Lafrentz PF PHX 82 32.9 112.3 113.3 13.0 141 Cuttino Mobley SG SAS 82 14.4 104.7 109.0 13.0 142 Doug Christie SF CHI 82 35.2 104.1 115.7 13.0 143 C.Weatherspoon PF WAS 82 34.4 102.1 105.5 13.0 144 Kameron Pullen C DEN 74 29.4 117.0 102.3 13.0 145 Jaivon Samuels PF ANA 82 35.3 107.1 110.6 12.9 146 Anthony Parker SF BKN 82 23.8 110.8 117.2 12.9 147 Allan Houston SF NOL 82 27.4 110.4 104.6 12.9 148 D.Iniguez PF DET 61 4.1 101.6 107.1 12.9 149 David Robinson C PHX 82 34.5 113.3 112.7 12.9 150 Derek Strong PF SJO 81 13.2 97.9 111.5 12.8 151 Tracy Murray PF MIA 82 21.6 111.4 108.1 12.7 152 Shawn Marion PF POR 68 34.7 109.0 118.9 12.7 153 Anthony Johnson SG NYK 81 15.6 103.0 112.0 12.7 154 W.Szczerbiak SF CLE 82 14.2 104.6 106.2 12.6 155 R.Hamilton SF CHR 82 14.1 101.4 111.1 12.6 156 Baron Davis PG CHR 75 30.7 103.2 114.3 12.5 157 Isiah Yancey PF WAS 82 29.7 102.4 108.3 12.5 158 Sherman Douglas PG IND 81 35.9 110.5 107.8 12.4 159 I.Corvalan C BKN 82 27.7 117.8 114.5 12.4 # Player Pos Team Gms Min OEff DEff PER ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 160 Roy Tarpley PF BKN 81 12.1 103.2 103.0 12.4 161 Elton Brand PF PIT 58 8.6 95.5 111.0 12.4 162 Ron Artest SF ANA 82 36.2 106.6 112.8 12.4 163 Peja Stojakovic SF DET 82 34.7 119.7 113.5 12.3 164 Brian Shaw SF MIA 82 35.7 114.2 107.8 12.3 165 Arvydas Sabonis PF SAS 57 6.1 104.1 105.4 12.2 166 George Lynch PF MIN 82 33.2 107.2 109.1 12.2 167 Michael Finley SF UTA 82 35.3 115.7 109.0 12.2 168 Tyree Grantham SF IND 82 13.0 101.9 110.7 12.2 169 Alvin Williams SG UTA 82 24.4 117.1 110.6 12.0 170 Bobby Phills SF HOU 69 33.1 116.6 104.1 12.0 171 Vlasi Khavanov SF SEA 77 28.6 98.5 115.2 12.0 172 Bobby Jackson PG MIN 74 26.7 106.6 107.9 12.0 173 Hanania Mutaa SG UTA 52 7.4 108.7 114.3 11.9 174 Gary Payton SG WAS 82 37.6 103.9 109.1 11.9 175 O.Harrington PF IND 82 14.2 101.2 108.5 11.8 176 Kevin Edwards SG DAL 82 13.4 96.5 102.7 11.8 177 Damon Jones SG CLE 82 13.8 106.7 110.8 11.8 178 Warren Kidd PF PHX 78 12.9 107.2 106.3 11.8 179 Dale Davis C IND 73 14.0 102.5 110.7 11.8 180 Malik Sealy SG IND 79 34.4 109.9 108.4 11.7 181 Abel Almendros SG STL 82 16.1 104.2 102.3 11.7 182 E.Recasner SG POR 82 15.9 109.0 109.2 11.7 183 Aaron McKie SF PHX 82 22.2 107.2 111.0 11.7 184 Bruce Bowen SF ANA 82 22.7 109.4 111.2 11.7 185 Derrick Coleman C NYK 82 17.6 102.8 115.7 11.6 186 Keon Clark C STL 82 15.9 102.9 103.9 11.6 187 Keith Closs C WAS 82 15.5 99.2 103.8 11.5 188 Felton Spencer C DAL 82 30.5 110.6 112.4 11.5 189 Tharon Mayes PG SEA 82 21.6 99.5 114.5 11.5 190 Kilyan Benot PG POR 73 31.4 112.1 117.8 11.5 191 S.Genovesi PG SEA 82 34.4 99.5 116.5 11.4 192 Kurt Thomas PF DAL 82 14.8 98.1 106.9 11.4 193 Parsa Najafi SF PIT 82 15.5 99.9 102.1 11.2 194 Chris Childs SG HOU 82 19.3 111.0 107.9 11.1 195 Troy Hudson PG ANA 82 34.1 107.4 113.0 11.1 196 Bimbo Coles PG DAL 78 30.2 107.1 114.8 11.1 197 Bryant Stith SG MIA 82 13.7 102.9 103.0 11.1 198 Jonah Jessup C MIA 82 30.9 116.7 107.3 11.1 199 Lucious Harris SF SJO 81 14.4 106.9 108.4 11.0 # Player Pos Team Gms Min OEff DEff PER ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 200 Steve Henson PG BOS 82 16.0 109.0 102.8 11.0 201 D.Stoudamire PG SAS 80 35.6 104.5 116.3 11.0 202 Lorenzen Wright C CLE 82 14.6 108.0 108.7 11.0 203 Lamar Odom C LAL 82 12.0 106.8 108.1 11.0 204 Edwin Barea PG MIN 56 14.3 103.6 111.5 10.9 205 Doug Overton SG CHR 67 13.2 98.3 115.4 10.9 206 Tuomas Nenonen PF SEA 82 21.5 99.9 119.0 10.9 207 Duane Causwell C UTA 82 12.2 106.7 106.6 10.5 208 Khalid Reeves PG STL 82 12.7 97.7 100.3 10.5 209 Nick Van Exel PG DEN 82 12.9 104.9 108.1 10.5 210 Evaristo Marchi SF HOU 82 18.4 107.4 105.8 10.5 211 Pooh Richardson PG UTA 82 12.5 103.8 109.9 10.5 212 Darrick Martin PG SJO 82 14.2 98.3 111.3 10.4 213 Scott Brooks PG WAS 82 35.3 105.3 108.4 10.4 214 Marcus Webb PF PHI 78 13.5 95.2 104.8 10.3 215 Rex Walters PG SAS 82 13.4 103.5 103.7 10.2 216 Tony Delk SG HFD 81 10.8 109.2 106.0 10.1 217 Marlon Maxey PF BOS 82 14.0 108.4 105.8 10.0 218 Keith Jennings PG LAL 82 11.3 105.2 107.8 10.0 219 Thomas Hamilton C PHI 79 14.5 100.2 102.6 9.9 220 P.Danilovic SF BOS 71 21.1 112.8 107.6 9.9 221 Rony Seikaly C CHI 82 14.1 98.1 110.8 9.9 222 Greg Ostertag C CHR 82 32.4 103.7 113.7 9.9 223 Sean Rooks C BOS 81 13.4 106.7 105.0 9.8 224 B.J. Armstrong PG HFD 81 13.6 105.7 111.3 9.8 225 Moochie Norris PG PHI 82 16.1 97.5 108.6 9.7 226 Miguel Martinez PF STL 82 26.7 120.6 103.2 9.7 227 Didier Chizuoke SF SEA 70 17.0 98.6 114.4 9.7 228 Mark Price PG BOS 82 32.1 119.6 105.1 9.6 229 Ervin Johnson C SEA 82 21.3 99.9 110.3 9.6 230 Dikembe Mutombo C SJO 82 33.0 118.1 104.1 9.6 231 Xisto Cabeleira C BKN 82 18.4 106.7 112.0 9.5 232 Andrei Zimyatov SG NOL 82 37.5 110.9 107.2 9.4 233 Todd Fuller C HOU 82 14.6 107.4 103.4 9.4 234 Dominik Skala C SEA 82 23.5 99.0 117.6 9.4 235 Vitalijs Pelcis SF STL 78 13.1 96.4 102.4 9.3 236 Lewis Garcia SG LAL 80 35.2 107.9 112.0 9.2 237 Tony Battie C DEN 66 10.2 108.5 119.7 9.2 238 Les Jepsen C DAL 80 16.2 94.6 110.7 8.8 239 Vernon Maxwell SF PHI 82 21.3 107.1 107.7 8.7 # Player Pos Team Gms Min OEff DEff PER ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 240 Jospeh Klinger PG POR 82 18.4 104.5 112.9 8.7 241 Chucky Atkins PG MIN 77 31.8 105.7 109.5 8.3 242 Walt Williams SF MIN 63 6.9 94.9 111.8 8.3 243 Jeff Foster C PHX 82 13.6 106.8 106.2 8.2 244 A.Goldwire PG WAS 82 12.8 97.3 102.2 8.2 245 Manuel Omaga SG SAS 82 33.9 103.9 114.0 8.0 246 L.Sprewell SF DAL 82 14.2 95.5 108.0 7.9 247 D.Willoughby SG DEN 82 17.8 104.4 108.6 7.9 248 Zulfikkur Pasha C NYK 82 29.7 104.8 109.3 7.8 249 P.Duquesnes C CHR 82 14.7 100.4 114.0 7.6 250 Jahidi White PF STL 81 20.1 106.3 107.2 7.4 251 Charles Jones PG DET 58 7.2 100.9 113.3 7.2 252 Donald Hodge C DEN 82 21.6 106.5 108.5 6.9 253 Scott Haskin C MIA 82 15.4 103.2 106.8 6.9 254 Carlos Diaz SG BOS 52 9.8 99.0 110.2 6.6 255 Y.Guznishcheva SG CHI 71 34.7 102.7 114.2 5.9 256 Erik Legrand SG SJO 82 14.8 95.8 112.7 4.6

So that's that. I'm not sure I'll stick with this team for next season because I think I've seen enough. The changes I'd make almost result in a new team and I think you just need to get more stars on the team. What'll be really interesting is seeing how many of these guys are still around in 4 years. Also, I did position this team decently if they make deals, as there were a few future firsts that came over in two of the deals we made.

That being said, they can't fall much further from where they are.
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