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Old Today, 12:42 PM   #18601
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Hmmm. GOP politicians starting to lie about caring about the debt/deficit again. Makes me wonder if they are seeing some really bad internal polls for Trump.

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Old Today, 02:00 PM   #18602
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Are they really going to run on a promise to cut Social Security and Medicare?

At least Trump was smart enough to realize people really like Social Security and Medicare and promising to cut them is a dumb thing to do before an election.
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Old Today, 02:14 PM   #18603
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Are they really going to run on a promise to cut Social Security and Medicare?

At least Trump was smart enough to realize people really like Social Security and Medicare and promising to cut them is a dumb thing to do before an election.

Romney and Ryan did run on a platform of cutting future benefits for people who were under 55 at the time.
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Old Today, 02:44 PM   #18604
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This story about the resignation of the Overstock CEO after claiming to be in the middle of the Russia/Trump investigation is nuts.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/o...p-russia-story
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Old Today, 02:50 PM   #18605
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Joe Walsh is threatening to run in a primary against Trump. It will probably go nowhere, but I hope he does.
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Old Today, 02:52 PM   #18606
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The faux outrage that is going to come from the GOP in the coming months and years is going to be something to behold.
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Old Today, 03:10 PM   #18607
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This story about the resignation of the Overstock CEO after claiming to be in the middle of the Russia/Trump investigation is nuts.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/o...p-russia-story

Crazy is 3 Mar-a-Lago members getting involved in the VA's transition to a new EHR for no reason other than they're friends with Trump.

Emails show Veterans Affairs officials' scorn for 'Mar-a-Lago 3' - POLITICO
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Old Today, 03:42 PM   #18608
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So the National Republican Congressional Committee is fund-raising by offering this shirt for a donation:


Got Greenland? - National Republican Congressional Committee
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Old Today, 03:50 PM   #18609
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So the National Republican Congressional Committee is fund-raising by offering this shirt for a donation:


Got Greenland? - National Republican Congressional Committee

I'm one of the most far-left people on this board and I'd consider getting that shirt. That's hilarious and awesome.
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Old Today, 04:12 PM   #18610
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Yeah, it seems more like making fun of Trump than supporting him. NRCC has no clue.
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Old Today, 04:15 PM   #18611
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So the National Republican Congressional Committee is fund-raising by offering this shirt for a donation:


Got Greenland? - National Republican Congressional Committee

As I mentioned to someone else, of course there is no Puerto Rico.
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Old Today, 04:30 PM   #18612
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Ramon Torres had been a U.S. citizen for nearly ten years when he was detained for four days on an immigration hold – despite having a U.S. passport, a Louisiana driver’s license, and a Social Security card, and despite that fact that a court ordered his release.

Torres’ ordeal began in August 2018, when he was pulled over and arrested on suspicion of driving while intoxicated. Torres, a naturalized U.S. citizen since 2009, was carrying multiple forms of identification, including his driver’s license and other security credentials. Torres was booked at the Ascension Parish Jail, and the next day the Parish Court ordered his release.

But Torres wasn’t released. Instead, the Ascension Parish Sheriff’s Office placed an “immigration hold” on Torres on the suspicion that he was unlawfully present in the United States.

The basis for this suspicion? He had a Latinx name and brown skin. Staff at the sheriff’s office explained that they had a policy of detaining all Latinx people for immigration review.

I bet nobody gets punished for this.
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Old Today, 04:35 PM   #18613
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To the surprise of no one Sarah Huckabee Sanders takes a job as a contributer on Fox News and her first apperance will of course be on Fox and Friends in September.
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Old Today, 04:48 PM   #18614
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"Staff at the sheriff’s office explained that they had a policy of detaining all Latinx people for immigration review."

I didn't quite believe that, so I looked at the complaint. Torres claims that an unidentified administrator made that statement, but the administrator is just referred to as "Jane Doe" in the complaint. In their write-up about the complaint, the ACLU hides that fact that it's an allegation, and tries to make it sound like it's an on-the-record official policy statement or something.

Maybe someone said it, maybe that person had any authority or knowledge of detention procedures in that county, maybe they didn't. Maybe the detention was constitutional, maybe it wasn't, but this is just allegations in a complaint, the state hasn't even responded yet. But I'm skeptical that the sheriff's office in this area not only just rounds up all Hispanics and automatically puts immigration holds on them, but states this as their policy.

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Old Today, 05:27 PM   #18615
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But I'm skeptical that the sheriff's office in this area not only just rounds up all Hispanics and automatically puts immigration holds on them, but states this as their policy.


To be fair, it's already be precedent in the 80's during the drug wars with black men being rounded up on the streets 'just to see if they were criminals or not'.

It's not exactly a new tactic.
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Old Today, 05:28 PM   #18616
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So the National Republican Congressional Committee is fund-raising by offering this shirt for a donation:


Got Greenland? - National Republican Congressional Committee

Maybe if it wasn’t 35$ and proceeds weren’t sponsoring the white nationalist party...
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Old Today, 05:31 PM   #18617
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We all agree Trump wants Greenland cause of how bigot it looks on a Mercator projection, right?
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Old Today, 05:31 PM   #18618
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I meant bigly, but spellcheck hilarious.
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Old Today, 05:33 PM   #18619
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We all agree Trump wants Greenland cause of how bigot looks on a Mercator projection, right?

I would've gone with this.
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Old Today, 05:48 PM   #18620
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To be fair, it's already be precedent in the 80's during the drug wars with black men being rounded up on the streets 'just to see if they were criminals or not'.

It's not exactly a new tactic.

Times, they be a changing. Back then the Browns could make conference champion game.

If any local or state government rounded op people based on the color of their skin as official policy then their asses would be sued off.
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Old Today, 05:57 PM   #18621
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My point is that the ACLU isn't even really alleging that this is this agency's official policy. They just want you to assume that from the write-up. But the only person who allegedly said this is an unidentified "staff member" who isn't alleged to have any authority to actually create, state or enforce such a policy. And this person can't be investigated, deposed, etc, because they're just a Jane Doe.

And complaint allegations shouldn't be reported as fact. Just like allegations in a criminal complaint shouldn't be reported as fact. The ACLU gets around this with these write-ups that get passed around as if they're news articles.

The ACLU prefers dramatic language in their legal filings and write-ups. Including appeals to emotion, hiding the ball, invitations to make incorrect inferences. Stuff that would be considered unprofessional or unethical for most attorneys to engage in.

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Old Today, 05:58 PM   #18622
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Times, they be a changing. Back then the Browns could make conference champion game.

If any local or state government rounded op people based on the color of their skin as official policy then their asses would be sued off.

Loitering. Broken Taillight.

That's always been the work around.
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Old Today, 06:29 PM   #18623
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DOJ is now just passing around articles from white nationalist websites if you're wondering how things are going.

The Justice Department Sent Immigration Judges A White Nationalist Blog Post With Anti-Semitic Attacks
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Old Today, 07:10 PM   #18624
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Loitering. Broken Taillight.

That's always been the work around.

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Old Today, 07:18 PM   #18625
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WaPo is reporting that Trump is looking at ways to boost the economy before the election, including a currency transaction tax(that the GOP won't pass) and a further reduction of the corporate tax rate(which the Dems won't pass).
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