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Old 07-10-2008, 10:22 PM   #2801
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Looking at our list of 22 (!!!) people and the 5 beds:

4 will be in the brig (Alan, KWhit, RendeR, Path)
5 Engineers will be working (Tyrith, PurdueBrad, Danny, Heinz, Clap)
6 Security personnel will be patrolling (I think) (Hoops, olie, Pass, Mr & Mrs Schmidty, Saldana)

That leaves 7 for the 5 beds: Ensign Chubby (wounded), Trainer mccollins, Medics Jackal & bulletsponge, Scientists LSG & PF, and soon-to-be-Doctor Marc Vaughn.

FWIW.
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Old 07-10-2008, 10:24 PM   #2802
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This also makes me wonder about Chubby somewhat, and if that entire thing wasn't some botched distraction play. That'd be really, really silly and I think he's a better player than that, but it's another marble rolling around in my head -- I'm up to 4 now! (joke)

I'm unsure also.

PS - Got a reply to my question about empath queries, they DONT follow programming logic.
Hence:
true + false + unknown = unknown
true + false = unknown
Not false like it would for a programming statement (meaning I'm afraid that my scan on Chubby was worthless because it could easily be his lack of knowledge about him being an 'unknown spawn' cause the failure - sorry chaps wish I'd known that before I did the scan.
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Old 07-10-2008, 10:27 PM   #2803
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I'm unsure also.

PS - Got a reply to my question about empath queries, they DONT follow programming logic.
Hence:
true + false + unknown = unknown
true + false = unknown
Not false like it would for a programming statement (meaning I'm afraid that my scan on Chubby was worthless because it could easily be his lack of knowledge about him being an 'unknown spawn' cause the failure - sorry chaps wish I'd known that before I did the scan.

Regular (or programming) logic might go into effect if 'and' and/or 'or' is in the statement, but Chubby used none in the statement that was empathed.
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Old 07-10-2008, 10:32 PM   #2804
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woot good for us *pats themselves on the back*
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Old 07-10-2008, 10:54 PM   #2805
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Water Supply – 46 units (Enough reserves for for just barely over 2 days at current consumption)
Crystilium Supply – 79 units (at least 75 required)

Just to make sure I'm following along with the plan - what are we mining tomorrow before takeoff?

Doesn't any more Crys at this point mean we are dumping water?

Given that we have a pretty full ship, I'm not sure that I want to lose water.

Barkeep, can we go on a water mission tomorrow and drink it that same day rather than storing it?
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Old 07-10-2008, 10:58 PM   #2806
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Just to make sure I'm following along with the plan - what are we mining tomorrow before takeoff?

Doesn't any more Crys at this point mean we are dumping water?

Given that we have a pretty full ship, I'm not sure that I want to lose water.

Barkeep, can we go on a water mission tomorrow and drink it that same day rather than storing it?

My question would be if we can go on a crys mission, keep like 5 more and dump the rest -- I'd just like a little more buffer in case of leakage, but we do need water.
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Old 07-10-2008, 11:11 PM   #2807
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I recall you mentioning earlier that you were looking to scan to build the CoT the first 3 days, but starting tomorrow you're looking to scan for a spawn. Even if that means we lose you? Is that just a risk-reward we're willing to take?

Well, it's a risk-reward I'm willing to take which I guess is what counts.

I think I've achieved what I wanted to so far in this game -- I've gotten the brig full of people we can trust and who are in leadership positions. That was goal one, and hopefully we can get off the ground tomorrow that way. At that point, my focus has to be finding spawn.......I've never seen this as a role that lives through the game.
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Old 07-10-2008, 11:20 PM   #2808
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Just running some numbers - we dumped 18 water units to store crys today (64 down to 46) and we'll use 22 water units at the morning deadline (46 down to 24). I think we've all agreed that Saldana and the slaves will go get us some more crys (I'm not sure if we can say how much we want to keep) and as long as they don't bring back more than 22 crys, we won't have to throw out any more water (with 24 we'll be very close to exactly one day's worth of water).

In addition the water plant can be fully fixed during Day 4. That would give us around a day of water in the cargo hold and a working water plant.

The decision is then the risk/reward of sending another crew out who might possibly get infected.
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Old 07-11-2008, 02:41 AM   #2809
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Awesome job guys! I am not surprised at all, I read her play as exactly the same as in the last game where she was a wolf.

I think we should look really hard at Bulletsponge today. His bandwagon jumping seemed a desperate attempt to get votes on someone other than Telle. He didn't care whether it was MV or Chubby, he just wanted votes on someone. That only makes sense if he knew Telle was also a spawn.
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Old 07-11-2008, 02:43 AM   #2810
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And extra props to Hoops and Schmidty. Schmidty for scanning Render so hoopsguy could shift his attention to Telle and Hoopsguy for obvious reasons.
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Old 07-11-2008, 02:52 AM   #2811
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And hopefully that will be the end of all this no lynch talk
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Old 07-11-2008, 03:20 AM   #2812
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I wouldn't be surprised if there is no kill again today as the spawn will likely try and replace the loss of Telle with a new convert.
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Old 07-11-2008, 05:02 AM   #2813
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If I'm still alive in the morning I am at work til 4pm again. I will most certainly be voting for bulletsponge when I get back.
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Old 07-11-2008, 05:54 AM   #2814
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morning hoops
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Old 07-11-2008, 05:59 AM   #2815
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Hey, Saldana. In the middle of reconsidering my night action right about now.
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Old 07-11-2008, 06:06 AM   #2816
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Hey, Saldana. In the middle of reconsidering my night action right about now.

mine was pretty easy...provide an extra layer of security on the slave pens, or fight people for a bed
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Old 07-11-2008, 06:09 AM   #2817
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Yeah, I'm trying to fight my urges to go spy on potential spawn vs. guarding a room vs guarding someone I think is a pretty natural target.

So three choices on the board, all kind of appealing in their own way.
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Old 07-11-2008, 06:15 AM   #2818
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So, anyone want to construct scenarios where someone was trying to "save" Telle yesterday up until late afternoon? The votes kind of came in a rush for her, but for a very long time I was the only one with a vote on her.

Tyrith was 2nd man in - I believe at a point where I still wasn't cleared by Path although I would have to go look up posts to verify that. So I have that as a check in the good column for him. The remaining ten players after that get less good will just because I think that Spawn might be able to see writing on the wall and were willing to lose a vanilla member of their team.
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Old 07-11-2008, 06:17 AM   #2819
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One more note - given that I won't be around much today I'll have to vote early. Saldana, it might end up being you on account of the four away missions (working on assumption you are being sent today) if something isn't turned up from night actions. Even though I've had some trust from you since you were sleeping on N1 and have done what you are supposed to do with your role.
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Old 07-11-2008, 06:38 AM   #2820
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So, anyone want to construct scenarios where someone was trying to "save" Telle yesterday up until late afternoon? The votes kind of came in a rush for her, but for a very long time I was the only one with a vote on her.

Tyrith was 2nd man in - I believe at a point where I still wasn't cleared by Path although I would have to go look up posts to verify that. So I have that as a check in the good column for him. The remaining ten players after that get less good will just because I think that Spawn might be able to see writing on the wall and were willing to lose a vanilla member of their team.


For whatever it is worth, I might be wrong but I feel ok about both Tyrith and PurdueBrad right now as far as engineers go
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Old 07-11-2008, 08:13 AM   #2821
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Looking at our list of 22 (!!!) people and the 5 beds:

4 will be in the brig (Alan, KWhit, RendeR, Path)
5 Engineers will be working (Tyrith, PurdueBrad, Danny, Heinz, Clap)
6 Security personnel will be patrolling (I think) (Hoops, olie, Pass, Mr & Mrs Schmidty, Saldana)

That leaves 7 for the 5 beds: Ensign Chubby (wounded), Trainer mccollins, Medics Jackal & bulletsponge, Scientists LSG & PF, and soon-to-be-Doctor Marc Vaughn.

FWIW.

I am staying up tonight, mainly because I got a bed last night, I am fully healed now (knock on wood), and there are others that need beds.
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Old 07-11-2008, 08:17 AM   #2822
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I will be in and out, checking in on things. Probably more in the afternoon because I have to stay late today (well, later than normal Fridays...boo!) I will be around for the night actions

'Grats again, all, on nabbing us a spawn. Now we NEED to get out off this rock before they convert anymore!
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Old 07-11-2008, 08:42 AM   #2823
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Bummer, Telle was just a garden-variety Spawn.

Well, I didn't get Viper, but I still bagged an instructer.

No, boys ... there are two "O's" in hoopsguy.

Negative Ghostrider. The pattern is full.
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Old 07-11-2008, 08:58 AM   #2824
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I've tried to get votes on you - that might have triggered an ability if more people folllowed

That just triggers the Pissed Off Heinz ability
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Old 07-11-2008, 08:59 AM   #2825
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*Slaps Ketchup Boy*

Was it any better coming from a woman????

Nothing, I'm afraid. (as he avoids the multitude of opportunities to make a lewd comment)
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:02 AM   #2826
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So all the stuff between Chubby and Marc Vaughan makes you unvote hoopsguy, and vote Telle? Did you forget what side you were on?

No, not at all. (keep in mind I'm still catching up from where you posted this)

Hoops was scanned as good, hence the red-faced unvote.

That really leaves 2 options. Enter the Chubby/MV debate or vote Telle. Since I don't have any sort of confidence in any claim Chubby/MV make (could be 2 empaths plus who is lying?) I voted Telle. Safe play.
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:12 AM   #2827
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Before much news can be disseminated about who was where last night, disturbing news comes in. News of a body. The crew rushes to investigate and finds the body of mmccollins – a survivor- sprawled across the floor of a sleep quarter, devoid of life. That grim news ushers people to breakfast where they talk about last. Of how hoops guarded the water plant, just like olie, Mrs. Schmidty & pass guarded the Security HQ, and saldana guarded the slave pens. There was plenty of work from the Engineer staff as well as clap worked on the water plant and Tyrith, Danny, Pudue, and jeheinz slaved away to make sure the engines could be ready for lift-off. Lift-off. You’ve only spent 3 days on this hell of a planet and you can’t wait to leave it. With only two dead things are in better shape than you could have hoped. It looks like the humans really have a chance of saving interstellar space after all.

Room Reports
Engine Room – Operational (Undamaged)
Water Plant – Damaged (Non Operational) 5 cycles to repair
Cargo Hold - Operational (Undamaged) (Maximum Capacity: 125 units)
Water Supply – 23 units (Enough reserves for for just barely over 1 day at current consumption)
Crystilium Supply – 79 units (at least 75 required)
Security Headquarters Operational (Undamaged)

Weapons Locker – 3 unspent phasers (2 spent)

Slave Pens – Operational (Undamaged)
Sleeping Quarters – Damaged. 18 berths requiring repair (enough berths for 5 people to sleep)

The Crew

Command Staff
Captain - Alan T
First Officer – Kwhit
Second Officer - Render
Security Chief - Hoopsguy Exhausted
Ensign – Chubby

Chief Engineer - Tyrith Exhausted

Engineers
PurdueBrad Exhuasted
Danny Exhuasted
JeHeinz72 Exhuasted
Claphamsa Exhuasted


Medical Staff
Doctor - path12
Doctor - MarcVaughn Exhausted
Medic - The Jackal
Medic - bulletsponge

Security Staff
Sergeant at Arms - oliegirl Exhausted
Warden - Passacagalia Exhausted
Galley Master - Schmidty
Slavemaster – Saldana Exhausted
Security Crewman - Mrs. Schmidty Exhausted

Scientists

LoneStarGirl Exhausted
PackerFanatic Exhausted


Slaves
17 slaves accounted
3 slaves dead

Deceased
Telle - Spawn
mccollins – Survivor

Last edited by Barkeep49 : 07-11-2008 at 09:14 AM.
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:13 AM   #2828
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Power of Crys (Huey Lewis' Power of Love)

The power of crys is a curious thing
Make the spawn weep, make us humans sing
Change a broken ship into a little white dove
More than gasoline, that's the power of crys

Mined like diamonds, important as air
stronger and harder to find that BK's hair (sorry BK)
Leave a bad spawn behind, make a weak phaser strong
Power of crys let's us all get gone

You don't need money, don't take a chip
Don't need no ticket to ride this ship
Its strong and almost fixed
and it might just save your life
That's the power of crys
That's the power of crys

That's awesome PB. I love Huey Lewis.
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:15 AM   #2829
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Haha, that is a great song, PB - I must have missed it in the shuffle.
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:16 AM   #2830
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Well, never mind my suggestion to scan mickey c, path.
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:18 AM   #2831
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*mourn McCollins*

We need water, bad. We have enough for just over a day. I have to leave for work but will be on before deadline.

I'm putting my vote in from yesterday unless I see something better when I get home.

VOTE BULLET
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:18 AM   #2832
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BOOOOO!!! I was going to tally up all the actions in the game over the weekend :-(
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:21 AM   #2833
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*mourn McCollins*

We need water, bad. We have enough for just over a day. I have to leave for work but will be on before deadline.

I'm putting my vote in from yesterday unless I see something better when I get home.

VOTE BULLET

I imagine our lovely engineers will be repairing the plant, which will help our situation.
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:21 AM   #2834
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BOOOOO!!! I was going to tally up all the actions in the game over the weekend :-(

That sucks to see you go, buddy. We really should have tried to get another trainer.
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:21 AM   #2835
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Oh, and, Huey Lewis rocks.
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:23 AM   #2836
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I imagine our lovely engineers will be repairing the plant, which will help our situation.

True. Does it make limitless water? Not sure if it says how much it produces a day anywhere, if so yay!
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:25 AM   #2837
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Yup, Packer, it's off to work I go.
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:25 AM   #2838
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Barkeep, can you help re-clarify how water works?

We drunk water this morning. if we go on a water supply mission today it is only for today anyways and since we already drunk water this morning it doesn't do anything for tommorrow correct it would only be added to the cargo hold if there is any space left (which might be doubtful if we also do a crystlium run today)?

Correct?
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:25 AM   #2839
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True. Does it make limitless water? Not sure if it says how much it produces a day anywhere, if so yay!

It produces enough, I think.
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:26 AM   #2840
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Barkeep, can you help re-clarify how water works?

We drunk water this morning. if we go on a water supply mission today it is only for today anyways and since we already drunk water this morning it doesn't do anything for tommorrow correct it would only be added to the cargo hold if there is any space left (which might be doubtful if we also do a crystlium run today)?

Correct?
Correct
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:27 AM   #2841
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True. Does it make limitless water? Not sure if it says how much it produces a day anywhere, if so yay!
Yes it makes limitless water
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:28 AM   #2842
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Correct


Barkeep one other question..

If we go on a crystlium mission can we request to not have any extra replace the water in the hold? ie: we want to keep x amount of water but fill up the rest of the hold from the mission? If so, who would have to request this and how?
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:29 AM   #2843
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For whatever it is worth, I might be wrong but I feel ok about both Tyrith and PurdueBrad right now as far as engineers go

Why not me? I was wrong about hoops, but I was far from the only one to vote him on Day TWo as well, and prodding him pre-scan wasn't out of line.
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:31 AM   #2844
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So, away mssions today. I slept last night, so I need to plan whatever away missions we want to do this morning.

I can see an argument for mining mission (a few more crys just to be safe and give us a buffer for phaser repair), a water mission (as we're running low), both missions or no missions at all (to spare the chance of infection).

So I'm looking for input on what our away mission(s) should be today.
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:31 AM   #2845
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Why not me? I was wrong about hoops, but I was far from the only one to vote him on Day TWo as well, and prodding him pre-scan wasn't out of line.


I probably should refrain from saying who I think is ok or not until we get into space so further conversions can't happen.. I was basing my thought on something else I read this morning (don't remember what) but was basing it more on how they've acted in the thread moreso than voting behavior
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:31 AM   #2846
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Purdue, Tyrith, and clap (with clap trailing behind Tyrith like a little puppy following its master) all head to the water plant to enact some repairs.
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:32 AM   #2847
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Barkeep one other question..

If we go on a crystlium mission can we request to not have any extra replace the water in the hold? ie: we want to keep x amount of water but fill up the rest of the hold from the mission? If so, who would have to request this and how?
You could give it as an order or Schmidty could do it as a free action.
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:32 AM   #2848
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Ok so engine work is done. I think water trumps in priority over fixing beds, don't you all agree?

I"m hesitant to put the action in right now though, as since it's not imperative for lift-off I can wait until after lift-off in case any funny stuff goes down.

Thoughts?
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:32 AM   #2849
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So, away mssions today. I slept last night, so I need to plan whatever away missions we want to do this morning.

I can see an argument for mining mission (a few more crys just to be safe and give us a buffer for phaser repair), a water mission (as we're running low), both missions or no missions at all (to spare the chance of infection).

So I'm looking for input on what our away mission(s) should be today.

Water mission doesn't make any sense I don't think. we only have 23 slots in the cargo hold, and crystlium seems more important to get extra of. So if we get 5 - 15 crystlium the extra water we get ends up not really being enough to matter (at least to risk further exposure outside)...

I think we send out Saldana + slaves to pick up extra crystlium then we take off
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:34 AM   #2850
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So, away mssions today. I slept last night, so I need to plan whatever away missions we want to do this morning.

I can see an argument for mining mission (a few more crys just to be safe and give us a buffer for phaser repair), a water mission (as we're running low), both missions or no missions at all (to spare the chance of infection).

So I'm looking for input on what our away mission(s) should be today.

I think Crys for sure. I'd like to see us lift off with a buffer of 10.

I don't know how vital the water is to actually go get (at the risk of infection). We're 5 repair units from fixing it, and we have 6 units both during the day today and tonight.
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