Survivor:Challenge/Common Thread (GAME OVER! FEED BACK WELCOME) - Page 27

GoldenEagle · 02-09-2007, 10:29 AM

I will say this. Something shocking happened in the Oz tribe.

Poli · 02-09-2007, 10:34 AM

Swaggs · 02-09-2007, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

I personally am fine with that. If my teammates are agreeable, I'd like to share what went down yesterday/last night.

I don't have a problem with it.

It was something we talked about revealing from last night, anyway.

Alan T · 02-09-2007, 10:49 AM

Thanks guys..looking forward to what both Oz and Lupus have to say. We haven't heard anything from Howard though, what about you all? You were pushing the most for our information, are you guys with the rest of the tribes in trying to put out info on the voting patterns so we can isolate the wolves better?

Edited for color again!

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-09-2007, 10:56 AM

I'm all for sharing information, but I haven't heard anything yet from the rest of the tribe regarding this issue.

path12 · 02-09-2007, 11:00 AM

I'm fine with that also.

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-09-2007, 11:16 AM

How do you want us to do this, Alan? Do you want individual members to announce their votes, or just a tribe by tribe account? Or something else entirely?

st.cronin · 02-09-2007, 11:17 AM

Speaking as a villager and not an ozzite, the tribes without a seer or a bodyguard really need to throw this challenge.

Marathoner · 02-09-2007, 11:17 AM

I am for it as well.

Passacaglia · 02-09-2007, 11:17 AM

You guys can pretty much decide that, I think. One person can post everything, and if someone disagrees with their account, y'all can fight it out in here.

path12 · 02-09-2007, 11:18 AM

OK, we've only had the one vote. I voted LSG because she seemed the busiest of us during the day. It was a 3-2 vote between her and Marathoner in the end.

Marathoner · 02-09-2007, 11:19 AM

I voted LSG

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-09-2007, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Speaking as a villager and not an ozzite, the tribes without a seer or a bodyguard really need to throw this challenge.

I don't know who has the bodyguard (or even if their tribe knows it), but some of us really can't afford to lose any more challenges. Lupus is down to three and so will Howard come Sunday.

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-09-2007, 11:20 AM

I also voted LSG.

path12 · 02-09-2007, 11:21 AM

And considering I believe we have a wolf, I certainly would not want to know if anyone in my tribe was the bodyguard.

Passacaglia · 02-09-2007, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Marathoner

I voted LSG

I guess you don't need to explain why.

st.cronin · 02-09-2007, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

I don't know who has the bodyguard (or even if their tribe knows it), but some of us really can't afford to lose any more challenges. Lupus is down to three and so will Howard come Sunday.

If those three include a wolf, what's the problem?

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-09-2007, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

If those three include a wolf, what's the problem?

So I guess Lupus and Howard should just quit now and not even bother with the rest of the challenges?

Swaggs · 02-09-2007, 11:28 AM

I voted for Chief Rum (as he requested) and then for Blade last night.

I will let KWhit and/or Anxiety tell you the rest about our tribe.

Alan T · 02-09-2007, 11:30 AM

So for howard, it was:

3 LSG - Path, Jonathan , Marathoner
2 Marathoner - LSG , ntndeacon

Right?

edited for right color!

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-09-2007, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

So for howard, it was:

3 LSG - Path, Jonathan , Marathoner
2 Marathoner - LSG , ntndeacon

Right?

edited for right color!

Correct.

Alan T · 02-09-2007, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Speaking as a villager and not an ozzite, the tribes without a seer or a bodyguard really need to throw this challenge.

I think discussions along these lines probably have a bit more merit later on in the day once the information is all out. I think today hopefully all 4 tribes will be providing a good deal of information and then hopefully the villagers can work together on making the correct decisions together from there.

KWhit · 02-09-2007, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

If those three include a wolf, what's the problem?

I have no idea if there's a wolf in our tribe or not.

Hell, at this point, I don't even know if there are ANY wolves in this game.

So I think it's a little silly for people to ask each other to 'take one for the team' and off themselves to try to protect other people against a threat that so far hasn't been an issue.

How many people have we lost so far? 4, right? And how many have been killed by wolves? Zero.

path12 · 02-09-2007, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I guess you don't need to explain why.

That vote was totally secret. We didn't really discuss anything about it in our thread.

Passacaglia · 02-09-2007, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Speaking as a villager and not an ozzite, the tribes without a seer or a bodyguard really need to throw this challenge.

I tend to agree with this. But, do we have any bodyguard info?

path12 · 02-09-2007, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

If those three include a wolf, what's the problem?

Because those of us who are not wolves would like to continue to play? This whole idea that because we don't have the seer in our tribe means that we don't count is really getting tiresome. You guys might just as well have a wolf also.

Passacaglia · 02-09-2007, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

I have no idea if there's a wolf in our tribe or not.

Hell, at this point, I don't even know if there are ANY wolves in this game.

So I think it's a little silly for people to ask each other to 'take one for the team' and off themselves to try to protect other people against a threat that so far hasn't been an issue.

How many people have we lost so far? 4, right? And how many have been killed by wolves? Zero.

I'd considered the fact that there are no wolves in this game -- it is, after all, Survivor. But I don't think I'm betraying my team when I say there are wolves in the game -- just to end that kind of talk, and focus a little better.

Alan T · 02-09-2007, 11:36 AM

Kwhit, can you and Anxiety tell us a bit about who you all voted for, I see you posting (havent seen Anxiety around much).. Swaggs started, so would like to get the data together for lupus too.

gah color edit

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-09-2007, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

I have no idea if there's a wolf in our tribe or not.

Hell, at this point, I don't even know if there are ANY wolves in this game.

So I think it's a little silly for people to ask each other to 'take one for the team' and off themselves to try to protect other people against a threat that so far hasn't been an issue.

How many people have we lost so far? 4, right? And how many have been killed by wolves? Zero.

Another thing that everyone needs to keep in mind: this is survivor with werewolf added on. I'm assuming that means only one person can win. The game won't be over when all the wolves are dead. The game will end when there's only one person still standing. And while I'm all for flushing out the wolves, I'm not going to go out of my way to put my tribe (and myself) in danger of being voted out. I want to win, dammit!

st.cronin · 02-09-2007, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by path12

Because those of us who are not wolves would like to continue to play? This whole idea that because we don't have the seer in our tribe means that we don't count is really getting tiresome. You guys might just as well have a wolf also.

Well, you either think there's a wolf in your tribe, or you don't. If you don't think there's a wolf in your tribe, by all means, try to avoid council - if you think there's a wolf in your tribe, why wouldn't you want to remove the wolf from the game?

SnDvls · 02-09-2007, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I voted for Chief Rum (as he requested) and then for Blade last night.

I will let KWhit and/or Anxiety tell you the rest about our tribe.

is there a reason you chose Blade over the other two?

KWhit · 02-09-2007, 11:48 AM

Okay, now some information about yesterday's events.

I led the charge on Blade late in the day (like 30 minutes before the deadline).

I did this for a couple of reasons. Blade wasn't telling you guys the truth when he said that we had given the idols to members of the team with the seer.

I can understand why he did this in some ways. He thought that this information would keep the wolves from attacking anyone from the seer group. And if they did attack us instead, two of us still had idols that might give us protection. Decent plan.

I'm uncomfortable with lying in these games when I'm an innocent villager, becuase if you are found out, people usually equate lying with wolf. So even when there may be a reason for it, I avoid it whenever possible.

I was also afraid that he put us as a team at risk by doing this because of the questions that you guys would be able to ask. If you asked the right questions, you could find out that we still have the idols in our tribe and you would catch us all up in Blade's deception.

So I felt that we as a team needed to vote him out and come clean.

path12 · 02-09-2007, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Well, you either think there's a wolf in your tribe, or you don't. If you don't think there's a wolf in your tribe, by all means, try to avoid council - if you think there's a wolf in your tribe, why wouldn't you want to remove the wolf from the game?

I think JE answered that above better than I could.

KWhit · 02-09-2007, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Kwhit, can you and Anxiety tell us a bit about who you all voted for, I see you posting (havent seen Anxiety around much).. Swaggs started, so would like to get the data together for lupus too.

gah color edit

Also, I voted for Chief Rum on the first night because he pretty much volunteered to be voted out because he couldn't commit too much time to the game. We all took him up on that.

Lathum · 02-09-2007, 11:51 AM

I think I popped into lupus

Alan T · 02-09-2007, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

Okay, now some information about yesterday's events.

I led the charge on Blade late in the day (like 30 minutes before the deadline).

I did this for a couple of reasons. Blade wasn't telling you guys the truth when he said that we had given the idols to members of the team with the seer.

I can understand why he did this in some ways. He thought that this information would keep the wolves from attacking anyone from the seer group. And if they did attack us instead, two of us still had idols that might give us protection. Decent plan.

I'm uncomfortable with lying in these games when I'm an innocent villager, becuase if you are found out, people usually equate lying with wolf. So even when there may be a reason for it, I avoid it whenever possible.

I was also afraid that he put us as a team at risk by doing this because of the questions that you guys would be able to ask. If you asked the right questions, you could find out that we still have the idols in our tribe and you would catch us all up in Blade's deception.

So I felt that we as a team needed to vote him out and come clean.

So then both days did everyone vote for the same person? First council everyone voted for Chief Rum, second council everyone voted for Blade (except for blade)? Or did Anxiety vote elsewhere yesterday evening? I assume not since Blade was voted off.

st.cronin · 02-09-2007, 11:54 AM

I guess that's the twist, then. I'm playing werewolf, not survivor.

st.cronin · 02-09-2007, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I think I pooped on lupus

st.cronin · 02-09-2007, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

I will say this. Something shocking happened in the Oz tribe.

btw, just to clear up the mystery about this, the something shocking was Raider's Army, in his farewell speech, giving each one of us the shocker.

KWhit · 02-09-2007, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

So then both days did everyone vote for the same person? First council everyone voted for Chief Rum, second council everyone voted for Blade (except for blade)? Or did Anxiety vote elsewhere yesterday evening? I assume not since Blade was voted off.

Not all of the votes were read on day one (once a majority was reached, BK stopped reading), but I assume we were unanimous in voting for CR.

And we were unanimous last night against Blade (except for Blade himself, of course).

KWhit · 02-09-2007, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I guess that's the twist, then. I'm playing werewolf, not survivor.

Well, I think we're all playing both, but to this point Survivor has been the more deadly of the two games, so that's what we're concentrating on winning right now. Just to stay alive.

And to me, Voted off the tribe = Dead. I'm trying to avoid both.

Alan T · 02-09-2007, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

btw, just to clear up the mystery about this, the something shocking was Raider's Army, in his farewell speech, giving each one of us the shocker.

Raider's Army is John Amaechi??

KWhit · 02-09-2007, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

btw, just to clear up the mystery about this, the something shocking was Raider's Army, in his farewell speech, giving each one of us the shocker.

That clears up the mystery?

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-09-2007, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

btw, just to clear up the mystery about this, the something shocking was Raider's Army, in his farewell speech, giving each one of us the shocker.

That had to hurt.

path12 · 02-09-2007, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I guess that's the twist, then. I'm playing werewolf, not survivor.

Up until last nights results I hadn't personally seen the effects of wolves so the werewolf aspect was back burner. After last nights results I saw the effect of wolves so it is more of a werewolf game than before, but my abilities to lynch a wolf are limited while we are still in tribes. I posted what I did last night so that the seer might decide to take a look at our team. But me getting voted out by my tribe doesn't do a damn thing to help either the village or my tribe.

Believe me, we are now looking very closely through our thread to try and get our vote right Sunday night. And this vote will not be secret -- my teammates will know who I vote and why.

KWhit · 02-09-2007, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

Up until last nights results I hadn't personally seen the effects of wolves so the werewolf aspect was back burner. After last nights results I saw the effect of wolves....

What do you mean by that? What did you see?

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

I posted what I did last night so that the seer might decide to take a look at our team.

What post are you referring to?

Alan T · 02-09-2007, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

Up until last nights results I hadn't personally seen the effects of wolves so the werewolf aspect was back burner. After last nights results I saw the effect of wolves so it is more of a werewolf game than before, but my abilities to lynch a wolf are limited while we are still in tribes. I posted what I did last night so that the seer might decide to take a look at our team. But me getting voted out by my tribe doesn't do a damn thing to help either the village or my tribe.

Believe me, we are now looking very closely through our thread to try and get our vote right Sunday night. And this vote will not be secret -- my teammates will know who I vote and why.

I actually am interested in hearing more about this. Can you provide more details? Your post last night after the challenge didn't really seem to provide me much in the way of explaining why you felt what you did. Perhaps we can have an information exchange here and you can explain what you mean, then perhaps I might also be able to comment on it?

Alan T · 02-09-2007, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

What do you mean by that? What did you see?

What post are you referring to?

He said because of the results of the bidding challenge he felt there was a wolf in both Helsing and Howard due to what happened.

THe thing is he didn't go into detail on what happened, so I am curious to what detail he would give us here. Right now the vagueness isn't helping any.. so hopefully with more direct detail we can discect this some.

KWhit · 02-09-2007, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

He said because of the results of the bidding challenge he felt there was a wolf in both Helsing and Howard due to what happened.

THe thing is he didn't go into detail on what happened, so I am curious to what detail he would give us here. Right now the vagueness isn't helping any.. so hopefully with more direct detail we can discect this some.

Okay, I just reread those posts. More detail would be nice.

path12 · 02-09-2007, 12:12 PM

OK, I'm trying to think of how I want to go about this. Barkeep said in the results that there was a last minute revision that made a big difference in some of the results. I assume that was Helsing?

02-09-2007, 10:29 AM	#1301
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	I will say this. Something shocking happened in the Oz tribe. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

02-09-2007, 10:34 AM	#1302
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	! __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-09-2007, 10:49 AM	#1304
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Thanks guys..looking forward to what both Oz and Lupus have to say. We haven't heard anything from Howard though, what about you all? You were pushing the most for our information, are you guys with the rest of the tribes in trying to put out info on the voting patterns so we can isolate the wolves better? Edited for color again! Last edited by Alan T : 02-09-2007 at 10:49 AM.

02-09-2007, 11:00 AM	#1306
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I'm fine with that also. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

02-09-2007, 11:17 AM	#1308
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Speaking as a villager and not an ozzite, the tribes without a seer or a bodyguard really need to throw this challenge. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

02-09-2007, 10:56 AM	#1305
Jonathan Ezarik College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bossier City, LA	I'm all for sharing information, but I haven't heard anything yet from the rest of the tribe regarding this issue.

02-09-2007, 11:16 AM	#1307
Jonathan Ezarik College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bossier City, LA	How do you want us to do this, Alan? Do you want individual members to announce their votes, or just a tribe by tribe account? Or something else entirely?

02-09-2007, 11:17 AM	#1309
Marathoner High School JV Join Date: Nov 2005	I am for it as well.

02-09-2007, 11:17 AM	#1310
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	You guys can pretty much decide that, I think. One person can post everything, and if someone disagrees with their account, y'all can fight it out in here.

02-09-2007, 11:18 AM	#1311
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	OK, we've only had the one vote. I voted LSG because she seemed the busiest of us during the day. It was a 3-2 vote between her and Marathoner in the end. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

02-09-2007, 11:19 AM	#1312
Marathoner High School JV Join Date: Nov 2005	I voted LSG

02-09-2007, 11:20 AM	#1314
Jonathan Ezarik College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bossier City, LA	I also voted LSG.

02-09-2007, 11:21 AM	#1315
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	And considering I believe we have a wolf, I certainly would not want to know if anyone in my tribe was the bodyguard. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

02-09-2007, 11:28 AM	#1319
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I voted for Chief Rum (as he requested) and then for Blade last night. I will let KWhit and/or Anxiety tell you the rest about our tribe. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

02-09-2007, 11:30 AM	#1320
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	So for howard, it was: 3 LSG - Path, Jonathan , Marathoner 2 Marathoner - LSG , ntndeacon Right? edited for right color! Last edited by Alan T : 02-09-2007 at 11:30 AM.

02-09-2007, 11:36 AM	#1328
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Kwhit, can you and Anxiety tell us a bit about who you all voted for, I see you posting (havent seen Anxiety around much).. Swaggs started, so would like to get the data together for lupus too. gah color edit Last edited by Alan T : 02-09-2007 at 11:36 AM.

02-09-2007, 11:48 AM	#1332
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Okay, now some information about yesterday's events. I led the charge on Blade late in the day (like 30 minutes before the deadline). I did this for a couple of reasons. Blade wasn't telling you guys the truth when he said that we had given the idols to members of the team with the seer. I can understand why he did this in some ways. He thought that this information would keep the wolves from attacking anyone from the seer group. And if they did attack us instead, two of us still had idols that might give us protection. Decent plan. I'm uncomfortable with lying in these games when I'm an innocent villager, becuase if you are found out, people usually equate lying with wolf. So even when there may be a reason for it, I avoid it whenever possible. I was also afraid that he put us as a team at risk by doing this because of the questions that you guys would be able to ask. If you asked the right questions, you could find out that we still have the idols in our tribe and you would catch us all up in Blade's deception. So I felt that we as a team needed to vote him out and come clean.

02-09-2007, 11:51 AM	#1335
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I think I popped into lupus

02-09-2007, 11:54 AM	#1337
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I guess that's the twist, then. I'm playing werewolf, not survivor. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

02-09-2007, 12:12 PM	#1350
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	OK, I'm trying to think of how I want to go about this. Barkeep said in the results that there was a last minute revision that made a big difference in some of the results. I assume that was Helsing? __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

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