Werewolf LXXXIX - 30 Days of Night - GAME OVER - VILLAGE WINS! - Page 4

EagleFan · 03-18-2009, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

I disagree. I think that the votes today put Abe in a slightly more trustworthy position than anyone else. Slightly.

Since the 2nd vote for him came really early in the day, PB had plenty of time to move his vote off of Abe if he were a wolf.

So I think the seer would have a slightly better chance of getting a wolf if he scanned someone else tonight.

Then again, it could be one of those rare situations when we have 2 bad guys as leading vote getters on day one and I could be totally wrong.

All the more reason for PB to leave his vote if Abe is a wolf. If he makes a late switch it makes both of them look bad. With PB being the leading vote getter there is no reason for him to move his vote as his "death" helps the wolves in a way.

Personally this post alone makes me wonder about KWhit at this point. Hopefully he's just using misguided logic.

Schmidty · 03-18-2009, 08:17 PM

Too bad we didn't get a wolf, but getting the sorcerer is a nice bit of conciliation.

Abe Sargent · 03-18-2009, 08:30 PM

Frankly, Passa still hasn;t explained his late meaningless vote has he?

Passacaglia · 03-18-2009, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Frankly, Passa still hasn;t explained his late meaningless vote has he?

I said I was big chicken, meaning I was afraid to choose wrong.

Danny · 03-18-2009, 08:36 PM

Not normally like you

Passacaglia · 03-18-2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Not normally like you

Really? What am I normally like?

Danny · 03-18-2009, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Really? What am I normally like?

Not chicken

Passacaglia · 03-18-2009, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Not chicken

You must be thinking of the wrong guy!

Poli · 03-18-2009, 09:04 PM

I thought you were normally British.

Passacaglia · 03-18-2009, 09:11 PM

I guess that means I'm a British chicken.

Peregrine · 03-18-2009, 09:57 PM

Well nailing the sorceror is pretty good - and now we can get down to the real business of killing wolves. I have to say the timing of the last three votes by Abe, DT, and Kwhit seems pretty interesting, I'll have to think about what it means.

Abe Sargent · 03-19-2009, 12:29 AM

Feb 9 - Dar Ja’al expands’al

Feb 22 - Figuig converts to Shiite

Mar 13 - Grain in Dar Ja’al

Apr 21 - Dar Ja’al expands

June 1 - NLD - Kordofan, next to Dar Ja’al and Dar Nuba. I believe is the final undiscovered province in l’Afrique

July 19 - This time I decline Venice’s alliance offer.

Oct 16 - Dar Ja’al expands

Feb 2, 1697 - The Tax Assessors look to be a real help in fighting the inflation bug.

Apr 25 - Tripoli rejects our annexation request

May 26 - Gift Sent

Junt 27 - Gift sent

Sept 6 - Masapa Converts!

Sept 17 - Dar Ja‘al expands

Oct 1 - Tripoli again rejects our annexation offer.

Nov 3 - Gift

Dec 4 - Gift

Jan 11, 1698 - I order level 2 fort in Tangiers and Ceuta. Level 4s in Kabylia and Ak-Djazair and Oran

Mar 6 - Tripoli rejects our kind offer again

Mar 31 - Leve 4 fort gained in Cairo.

Apr 7 - Gift to Tripoli and Missionary to Malindi

May 8 - Gift

May 24 - Sliders time. I move one Centralization and get a small pretender rebellion in Whydah

July 9 - Ag Rev in Fazughli

Sept 15 - Rebels defeated

Sept 18 - Dar Ja’al expands

Dec 1 - Production Tech Increases

Feb 1, 1699 - Tripoli accepts our offer.

I destroy the COT in Tripolitania.

Tripolitania - This port of 108634 Tuareg Sunni ivory traders makes us 32.39 ducats annually. There is a temple, regimental camp, workshop and courthouse here. I order a marketplace. Gabes and Gafsa are to the west and Sirt is to the east.

Sirt - 11073 shepherds make us 20.90. The Tuareg Sunnis have a textile manufactory, and the exact same buildings as Tripolitania after that. I order a level 3 fort built here.

Morocco is the only power left with any mainland provinces, although I consider Socotra and Madeira to be gettable as well, plus Madina.

Abe Sargent · 03-19-2009, 12:30 AM

Whoops. I'd delete this but it's probably not allowed. I thought this was the dynasty thread up and ready for my next post....

Schmidty · 03-19-2009, 12:36 AM

Weirdest WW post ever.

Danny · 03-19-2009, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

Weirdest post ever.

Fixed!

EagleFan · 03-19-2009, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Fixed!

+1

EagleFan · 03-19-2009, 01:44 AM

dola: Was in serious WTF mode when reading that...

EagleFan · 03-19-2009, 01:46 AM

Abe's really trying to throw us off his trail by confusing the hell out of us.

Danny · 03-19-2009, 01:52 AM

I'm so sleepy. I'm finishing up two big assignments that I have to turn in tomorrow night. I'm going to call into work sick as I probably won't finish for 5-6 more hours and will need some sleep before class.

At least one is an ungraded draft, but it's a really important assignment really trying to help a kid, so I want to get everything I have well laid out, so the professor can help guide me on where to go for the most important part coming up.

dubb93 · 03-19-2009, 02:16 AM

Well I knew he couldn't have gotten a PM similar to mine which set off bells in my head. Too bad he wasn't a vamp but it was a good day 1 vote all things considered.

Danny · 03-19-2009, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

Well I knew he couldn't have gotten a PM similar to mine which set off bells in my head. Too bad he wasn't a vamp but it was a good day 1 vote all things considered.

I missed this, what was discussion of PM's?

dubb93 · 03-19-2009, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

Not a whole lot except complaining about the cold weather in Alaska. Of course that doesn't vibe well with me since I was told I don't mind the cold weather here. It is enough for me on day 1.

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Danny · 03-19-2009, 02:21 AM

Oh ok, I see his post now.

Chief Rum · 03-19-2009, 02:32 AM

Okay, I screwed up today, finishing up a file at work (Job #1). Finishing it ran me over on time, and I had to finish it because I am off the next two days. And I had to get to work (Job #2).

So in all the hubbub, I just flat forgot to check back in and vote. I was midway through my shift at Job #2 when I had one of those "Oh sh..!" moments. If I end up lynched for that, fair game, crappy as that would be.

Interesting Day One. Getting the sorcerer is a mixed result. Better than lynching a villager, and that's with us shooting in the dark, really. So it's hard to complain. But as Schmidty noted, doesn't really improve the situation either.

You have to view Abe with suspicion at this point, given PB's vote. Or at least a "person of interest". Whatever he is, the fact the Sorcerer voted for him, and it was a close vote, definitely makes him a guy we should look at. I don't know yet if that means we can depend on a scan, or if we'll have to clear him the ole fashioned way.

Pass's lack of meaningful vote stands out, too. His given reason is weak, IMO. But that's also not exactly the sorta spot a wolf makes a save vote (being near deadline with a lynch in the offing). Would a smart wolf even bother to try to save a wolf on the block in that situation? Pass is smart--I'm not sure he would make that move as a wolf.

But, hey, it's Day One. What the heck do we know?

FTR, I have no idea who I would have voted for. I would have been inclined to not vote for Abe for the same meta-game reason as others, noting he ran a terrific Dungeon game, and I wouldn't want to bump him out so quick, so I suppose I would have voted for PB by default. But I didn't see anything wolfy in PB's posts or nothing.

claphamsa · 03-19-2009, 06:28 AM

Nice one abe....

Peregrine · 03-19-2009, 07:01 AM

Interesting that DT forced a tie with a late vote. Of course forcing a tie can shake things up, but doing it with only 20 minutes left in the voting seems a bit iffy to me.

Of course if DT is a wolf, he wouldn't have known the identity of the sorceror, but still...

DaddyTorgo · 03-19-2009, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Peregrine

Interesting that DT forced a tie with a late vote. Of course forcing a tie can shake things up, but doing it with only 20 minutes left in the voting seems a bit iffy to me.

Of course if DT is a wolf, he wouldn't have known the identity of the sorceror, but still...

Not that interesting - i stated in my post why i was doing it. and with 3 left to vote and others online i was sure the tie wouldn't stand

Abe Sargent · 03-19-2009, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

Nice one abe....

Thanks!

The Jackal · 03-19-2009, 08:08 AM

You awake and congregate at the bar (with no liquor!). Someone's missing.

DaddyTorgo.

You investigate DT's house and find quite the extensive greenhouse with an array of interesting smelling plants. A blood trail leads you to the back door, where the head of DT remains, frozen in its last view.

DaddyTorgo was Helen, the Seer!

claphamsa · 03-19-2009, 08:20 AM

well.... that sucks!

DaddyTorgo · 03-19-2009, 08:23 AM

SUCK...ASS.

good luck villagers!

KWhit · 03-19-2009, 08:29 AM

Ouch.

KWhit · 03-19-2009, 08:30 AM

And Dubb, I totally get what you're talking about.

I dunno how cool that strategy is, so I don't want to say more, but you're a solid villager in my book.

Passacaglia · 03-19-2009, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

And Dubb, I totally get what you're talking about.

I dunno how cool that strategy is, so I don't want to say more, but you're a solid villager in my book.

I think it's fine. If the GM wanted stop us from doing it, he could have just left it out of the PM.

Poli · 03-19-2009, 08:47 AM

Wow. That...really sucks.

claphamsa · 03-19-2009, 09:00 AM

hmm, i need to go read my pm closer so I dont get offed!

claphamsa · 03-19-2009, 09:01 AM

There is a reason my pms are minimalist when I GM....

Abe Sargent · 03-19-2009, 09:43 AM

OUCH! Sucks.

Poli · 03-19-2009, 09:54 AM

I think we're going to be calling this 30 days of suck very soon.

DaddyTorgo · 03-19-2009, 10:33 AM

i didn't even get results of my scan before i got chomped :-(

Danny · 03-19-2009, 10:41 AM

Well that sucks

Danny · 03-19-2009, 10:46 AM

No scan unfortunately, but still I want to fight out one way or the other.

Vote Abe Sargent

Danny · 03-19-2009, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny

No scan unfortunately, but still I want to find out one way or the other.

Vote Abe Sargent

Fixed

Chief Rum · 03-19-2009, 11:13 AM

Hrm...not exactly the start we were looking for.

Is it just me, or does it seem like the Seer has bought it or been revealed on Day one, like, several games in a row? Weird...I wonder if the wolves picked up on something from DT. I don't recall anything specific myself, but then I was rushing through the thread late last night.

I think I would go with the Abe vote right now, given few good other choices, although since he already has a vote, I will hold off until later. I want to see if we have anything else that might come to light.

Poli · 03-19-2009, 11:58 AM

VOTE ABE SARGEANT

In case I forget later.

Peregrine · 03-19-2009, 12:18 PM

Well, that sucks. Obviously I was wrong about DT's last minute vote.

Danny · 03-19-2009, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Peregrine

Well, that sucks. Obviously I was wrong about DT's last minute vote.

It's meta game, but he's dead now so it doesn't matter. He voted from his cell phone and I don't think gave much thought to it.

Schmidty · 03-19-2009, 12:50 PM

Well, this is a disaster.

EagleFan · 03-19-2009, 01:43 PM

vote Abe

Might as well test the theory that PB played it like I would have.

Granted, this probably looks like a pile on vote but with my work schedule being crazy the last few days I have no idea how often I can check back in and a second no vote doesn't do me, or the village, any good as it simply sets me up for a no vote lynch.

Abe Sargent · 03-19-2009, 01:45 PM

Sigh

Sucks that they killed the seer even more for me

03-18-2009, 08:17 PM	#152
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Too bad we didn't get a wolf, but getting the sorcerer is a nice bit of conciliation. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

03-18-2009, 08:30 PM	#153
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Frankly, Passa still hasn;t explained his late meaningless vote has he? __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

03-18-2009, 09:04 PM	#159
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I thought you were normally British. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-19-2009, 12:29 AM	#162
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Feb 9 - Dar Ja’al expands’al Feb 22 - Figuig converts to Shiite Mar 13 - Grain in Dar Ja’al Apr 21 - Dar Ja’al expands June 1 - NLD - Kordofan, next to Dar Ja’al and Dar Nuba. I believe is the final undiscovered province in l’Afrique July 19 - This time I decline Venice’s alliance offer. Oct 16 - Dar Ja’al expands Feb 2, 1697 - The Tax Assessors look to be a real help in fighting the inflation bug. Apr 25 - Tripoli rejects our annexation request May 26 - Gift Sent Junt 27 - Gift sent Sept 6 - Masapa Converts! Sept 17 - Dar Ja‘al expands Oct 1 - Tripoli again rejects our annexation offer. Nov 3 - Gift Dec 4 - Gift Jan 11, 1698 - I order level 2 fort in Tangiers and Ceuta. Level 4s in Kabylia and Ak-Djazair and Oran Mar 6 - Tripoli rejects our kind offer again Mar 31 - Leve 4 fort gained in Cairo. Apr 7 - Gift to Tripoli and Missionary to Malindi May 8 - Gift May 24 - Sliders time. I move one Centralization and get a small pretender rebellion in Whydah July 9 - Ag Rev in Fazughli Sept 15 - Rebels defeated Sept 18 - Dar Ja’al expands Dec 1 - Production Tech Increases Feb 1, 1699 - Tripoli accepts our offer. I destroy the COT in Tripolitania. Tripolitania - This port of 108634 Tuareg Sunni ivory traders makes us 32.39 ducats annually. There is a temple, regimental camp, workshop and courthouse here. I order a marketplace. Gabes and Gafsa are to the west and Sirt is to the east. Sirt - 11073 shepherds make us 20.90. The Tuareg Sunnis have a textile manufactory, and the exact same buildings as Tripolitania after that. I order a level 3 fort built here. Morocco is the only power left with any mainland provinces, although I consider Socotra and Madeira to be gettable as well, plus Madina. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

03-19-2009, 12:30 AM	#163
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Whoops. I'd delete this but it's probably not allowed. I thought this was the dynasty thread up and ready for my next post.... __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

03-18-2009, 08:36 PM	#155
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Not normally like you

03-18-2009, 09:11 PM	#160
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	I guess that means I'm a British chicken.

03-18-2009, 09:57 PM	#161
Peregrine Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cary, NC	Well nailing the sorceror is pretty good - and now we can get down to the real business of killing wolves. I have to say the timing of the last three votes by Abe, DT, and Kwhit seems pretty interesting, I'll have to think about what it means.

03-19-2009, 12:36 AM	#164
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Weirdest WW post ever. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

03-19-2009, 01:44 AM	#167
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	dola: Was in serious WTF mode when reading that...

03-19-2009, 01:46 AM	#168
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Abe's really trying to throw us off his trail by confusing the hell out of us.

03-19-2009, 01:52 AM	#169
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I'm so sleepy. I'm finishing up two big assignments that I have to turn in tomorrow night. I'm going to call into work sick as I probably won't finish for 5-6 more hours and will need some sleep before class. At least one is an ungraded draft, but it's a really important assignment really trying to help a kid, so I want to get everything I have well laid out, so the professor can help guide me on where to go for the most important part coming up.

03-19-2009, 02:16 AM	#170
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	Well I knew he couldn't have gotten a PM similar to mine which set off bells in my head. Too bad he wasn't a vamp but it was a good day 1 vote all things considered.

03-19-2009, 02:21 AM	#173
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Oh ok, I see his post now.

03-19-2009, 02:32 AM	#174
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Okay, I screwed up today, finishing up a file at work (Job #1). Finishing it ran me over on time, and I had to finish it because I am off the next two days. And I had to get to work (Job #2). So in all the hubbub, I just flat forgot to check back in and vote. I was midway through my shift at Job #2 when I had one of those "Oh sh..!" moments. If I end up lynched for that, fair game, crappy as that would be. Interesting Day One. Getting the sorcerer is a mixed result. Better than lynching a villager, and that's with us shooting in the dark, really. So it's hard to complain. But as Schmidty noted, doesn't really improve the situation either. You have to view Abe with suspicion at this point, given PB's vote. Or at least a "person of interest". Whatever he is, the fact the Sorcerer voted for him, and it was a close vote, definitely makes him a guy we should look at. I don't know yet if that means we can depend on a scan, or if we'll have to clear him the ole fashioned way. Pass's lack of meaningful vote stands out, too. His given reason is weak, IMO. But that's also not exactly the sorta spot a wolf makes a save vote (being near deadline with a lynch in the offing). Would a smart wolf even bother to try to save a wolf on the block in that situation? Pass is smart--I'm not sure he would make that move as a wolf. But, hey, it's Day One. What the heck do we know? FTR, I have no idea who I would have voted for. I would have been inclined to not vote for Abe for the same meta-game reason as others, noting he ran a terrific Dungeon game, and I wouldn't want to bump him out so quick, so I suppose I would have voted for PB by default. But I didn't see anything wolfy in PB's posts or nothing. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

03-19-2009, 06:28 AM	#175
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	Nice one abe.... __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

03-19-2009, 07:01 AM	#176
Peregrine Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cary, NC	Interesting that DT forced a tie with a late vote. Of course forcing a tie can shake things up, but doing it with only 20 minutes left in the voting seems a bit iffy to me. Of course if DT is a wolf, he wouldn't have known the identity of the sorceror, but still...

03-19-2009, 08:08 AM	#179
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	You awake and congregate at the bar (with no liquor!). Someone's missing. DaddyTorgo. You investigate DT's house and find quite the extensive greenhouse with an array of interesting smelling plants. A blood trail leads you to the back door, where the head of DT remains, frozen in its last view. DaddyTorgo was Helen, the Seer!

03-19-2009, 08:20 AM	#180
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	well.... that sucks! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

03-19-2009, 08:23 AM	#181
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	SUCK...ASS. good luck villagers!

03-19-2009, 08:29 AM	#182
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Ouch.

03-19-2009, 08:30 AM	#183
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	And Dubb, I totally get what you're talking about. I dunno how cool that strategy is, so I don't want to say more, but you're a solid villager in my book.

03-19-2009, 08:47 AM	#185
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Wow. That...really sucks. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-19-2009, 09:00 AM	#186
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	hmm, i need to go read my pm closer so I dont get offed! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

03-19-2009, 09:01 AM	#187
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	There is a reason my pms are minimalist when I GM.... __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

03-19-2009, 09:43 AM	#188
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	OUCH! Sucks. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

03-19-2009, 09:54 AM	#189
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I think we're going to be calling this 30 days of suck very soon. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-19-2009, 10:33 AM	#190
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	i didn't even get results of my scan before i got chomped :-(

03-19-2009, 10:41 AM	#191
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Well that sucks

03-19-2009, 10:46 AM	#192
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	No scan unfortunately, but still I want to fight out one way or the other. Vote Abe Sargent

03-19-2009, 11:13 AM	#194
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Hrm...not exactly the start we were looking for. Is it just me, or does it seem like the Seer has bought it or been revealed on Day one, like, several games in a row? Weird...I wonder if the wolves picked up on something from DT. I don't recall anything specific myself, but then I was rushing through the thread late last night. I think I would go with the Abe vote right now, given few good other choices, although since he already has a vote, I will hold off until later. I want to see if we have anything else that might come to light. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

03-19-2009, 11:58 AM	#195
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	VOTE ABE SARGEANT In case I forget later. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-19-2009, 12:18 PM	#196
Peregrine Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cary, NC	Well, that sucks. Obviously I was wrong about DT's last minute vote.

03-19-2009, 12:50 PM	#198
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Well, this is a disaster. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

03-19-2009, 01:43 PM	#199
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	vote Abe Might as well test the theory that PB played it like I would have. Granted, this probably looks like a pile on vote but with my work schedule being crazy the last few days I have no idea how often I can check back in and a second no vote doesn't do me, or the village, any good as it simply sets me up for a no vote lynch.