Werewolf XXXIV: Tombstone (GAME OVER - Night 13) - Page 14

saldana · 10-10-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

I should be let out because I have role that could potentailly help the townfolk down the line. Saldana, you should be able to confirm that I did not attempt to get away when you came in and arrested me. I am not sure if anyone else can collborate my story at this point. I do not even have a story to be honest. How is lathum being cleared and I am not?

Anyway, I understand I am in jail for not voting. I just think that is a crappy reason to kill someone when they could benefit the town down the road.

i already says that you dint fight none when i cuffed ya, but that dont mean nothin, seein as how i got no frame of reference, since i aint cuffed anyone I know is a cowboy....as far as the bolded part above(bold mine), you is gonna havta do better'en that

st.cronin · 10-10-2006, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Was there a special mechanic in that game that made not lynching a good thing? I don't see a benefit in this game.

Yes, but mostly it worked out because there was so information flow outside the lynches, that they were able to corner the badguys pretty quick. I was a badguy in that game, and I wept whenever I saw a goodguy on the block not get lynched.

I don't know anything about GE, and I don't think lynching him is a TERRIBLE idea. I just don't think we should feel like we have to.

Lathum · 10-10-2006, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

So, Lathum why did you assume that you would be jailed and lynched? I thought Saldana was the only one that put forward the idea of jailing you? Was anybody else suggesting that yesterday?

saldana is my best friend in real life and he owes me payback for the pharaoh game. I knew he was gonna jail me, we share a brain in the real world.

LoneStarGirl · 10-10-2006, 05:19 PM

I totally agree with St. Cronin. I feel we are miles ahead of the cowboys right now and are not a day behind like everybody keeps claiming. We should free Lathum and throw somebody else in jail. Keep GE in jail until he spills what he knows, but dont execute him.

Lathum · 10-10-2006, 05:20 PM

ok, FWIW

LYNCH GE

We need the information, also Spleen is all over the place trying to throw blame on everyone, I think he is a good candidate to throw in jail.

LoneStarGirl · 10-10-2006, 05:20 PM

I dont trust people who know one another in real life playing this game together. Too suspicious.

Fouts · 10-10-2006, 05:23 PM

Due to saldana's information, I won't be voting to lynch Lathum. I leave for class in an hour, and will vote to lynch GE if he doesn't give a great reason not to lynch him.

Fouts · 10-10-2006, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

ok, FWIW

LYNCH GE

We need the information, also Spleen is all over the place trying to throw blame on everyone, I think he is a good candidate to throw in jail.

I would have voted to jail spleen, too, but I think he is just an overeager townsperson.

LoneStarGirl · 10-10-2006, 05:26 PM

So if fouts would have forgotten to vote and had a busy day at work yesterday he would be in jail about to be lynched? Or Barkeep, or st.cronin? Or me? That sounds like a shitty deal. I definitly wont be voting to lynch unless somebody gives me a great reason why.

Fouts · 10-10-2006, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

So if fouts would have forgotten to vote and had a busy day at work yesterday he would be in jail about to be lynched? Or Barkeep, or st.cronin? Or me? That sounds like a shitty deal. I definitly wont be voting to lynch unless somebody gives me a great reason why.

I think it depends on who it is. GE is notorious for not helping the good guys. He is very quiet and doesn't offer up much information. So lynching him doesn't hurt us much. Get it?

Fouts · 10-10-2006, 05:30 PM

Heck, I just convinced myself.

lynch GE

Grammaticus · 10-10-2006, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

So if fouts would have forgotten to vote and had a busy day at work yesterday he would be in jail about to be lynched? Or Barkeep, or st.cronin? Or me? That sounds like a shitty deal. I definitly wont be voting to lynch unless somebody gives me a great reason why.

Actually not voting is one of the worst things a villager can do, it always helps the wolves. So, when you do not have anything stronger to go on, it is the best reason to lynch.

Also, if non voters got lynched as a practice, non voting would simply stop.

spleen1015 · 10-10-2006, 05:32 PM

UNLYNCH Lathum

For obvious reasons.

Fouts is correct. As I stated earlier, this is my third game. So, I am inexperienced. I am trying to help the villagers in whatever way that I can. I will cool my jets with all of my theories flying around.

I'm not opposed to being jailed, either. I like the protection and I think I can convince you guys not to lynch my villager ass tomorrow.

path12 · 10-10-2006, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

ok, several people heard shots, so assumin thats how tomkal bought it, lathum is clean....when i carted him into the slammer, i relieved him of his six shooter....it was cold, and had not been fired, so lathum could not have shot thomkal.

not sure if i should let him out tonight, or jail two new people, cuz unless GE starts having something to say, w'all are gonna need a rope come nightfall.

I don't think it clears him entirely, it just clears him from last night. He could still be a cowboy with a gun.

Grammaticus · 10-10-2006, 05:34 PM

Also, LSG we are more likely to lynch a good guy than a bad guy regardless. But not lynching statistically supports a wolf win. Also, lynching a non voter either gets rid of a wolf or a townie who is not playing.

You don't want the end game to come down to someone that does not have a continuous voting history.

path12 · 10-10-2006, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

I would have voted to jail spleen, too, but I think he is just an overeager townsperson.

I'm on the fence with him but wouldn't mind putting him on the spot a little more....

Grammaticus · 10-10-2006, 05:37 PM

Spleen, it is probably better to defend yourself against jailing. If you are jailed, you are only one of potentially three lynch options. You may get lynched because you are a better option than the other two.

spleen1015 · 10-10-2006, 05:43 PM

My only actions in this game has been reading what everyone else posts and trying to read things into that and come up with some ideas on who could be what based on what I am reading. I admit that I am probably a little paranoid and a lot of what I say is way off base, but I am trying my best to play the game. I'm just trying to help the villagers win the game.

There is a big reason why I am trying so hard, as well. I want to contribute and this is the only way I can.

Fouts · 10-10-2006, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

My only actions in this game has been reading what everyone else posts and trying to read things into that and come up with some ideas on who could be what based on what I am reading. I admit that I am probably a little paranoid and a lot of what I say is way off base, but I am trying my best to play the game. I'm just trying to help the villagers win the game.

There is a big reason why I am trying so hard, as well. I want to contribute and this is the only way I can.

Try being the school teacher. I got nothing. Alan could have given me the ability to research someones history or something, but noooo.

LoneStarGirl · 10-10-2006, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

My only actions in this game has been reading what everyone else posts and trying to read things into that and come up with some ideas on who could be what based on what I am reading. I admit that I am probably a little paranoid and a lot of what I say is way off base, but I am trying my best to play the game. I'm just trying to help the villagers win the game.

There is a big reason why I am trying so hard, as well. I want to contribute and this is the only way I can.

I totally agree. Being the singer would have great advantages if i could swoon the people into telling me their rolls, or sing them to sleep and take their money or guns, but nooo. I got nothing.

spleen1015 · 10-10-2006, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

Try being the school teacher. I got nothing. Alan could have given me the ability to research someones history or something, but noooo.

At least you were given a role.

path12 · 10-10-2006, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

At least you were given a role.

Wait a minute. You have no role at all???

Fouts · 10-10-2006, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

At least you were given a role.

Interesting. With that many role descriptions, I figured everyone had a role.

spleen1015 · 10-10-2006, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

Wait a minute. You have no role at all???

No role what so ever.

GoldenEagle · 10-10-2006, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

I think it depends on who it is. GE is notorious for not helping the good guys. He is very quiet and doesn't offer up much information. So lynching him doesn't hurt us much. Get it?

Dude, I have played in like four games. That is hardly what I would call notorious under any circumstances. I was a seer in the 40k game that helped the team achieve victory. I have been a wolf in 2 other games. Do you expect me to help out the villagers then?

I like to play this game and all, but comments like these just baffle me.

GoldenEagle · 10-10-2006, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

Wait a minute. You have no role at all???

Didn't Alan T said everyone had a role?

ntndeacon · 10-10-2006, 05:53 PM

Jail Spleen

Fouts · 10-10-2006, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Dude, I have played in like four games. That is hardly what I would call notorious under any circumstances. I was a seer in the 40k game that helped the team achieve victory. I have been a wolf in 2 other games. Do you expect me to help out the villagers then?

I like to play this game and all, but comments like these just baffle me.

Ok, notorious might not be the right word. Four games later, I'm still waiting for something helpful from you.

st.cronin · 10-10-2006, 05:54 PM

agree with

jail spleen

Fouts · 10-10-2006, 05:55 PM

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Town Roles, Occupations and Allegiances

Each player in the game has a role assigned to them randomly at the start of the game. The list of possible roles includes but not limited to those listed in the next Post below this one. The possibility exists that there might be roles included in the list that are not active in the game, or roles in the game that are not included in the list however

Bolded the important part.

spleen1015 · 10-10-2006, 05:56 PM

I promise you guys that I don't have a role. I know what Alan T said, but I really don't have a role.

Fouts · 10-10-2006, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

I promise you guys that I don't have a role. I know what Alan T said, but I really don't have a role.

Looks like Alan is going to get you lynched. Sorry, man.

spleen1015 · 10-10-2006, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

Looks like Alan is going to get you lynched. Sorry, man.

You guys can put me in jail for lynch tomorrow. I still have another day to get myself out of a lynching and I think I can do that. So, feel free to put me in jail.

spleen1015 · 10-10-2006, 06:00 PM

I bet if I don't get jailed, I get it from the cowboys because Alan did say everyone has a role, but I am telling you....I DON'T HAVE A ROLE!

path12 · 10-10-2006, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

Looks like Alan is going to get you lynched. Sorry, man.

I actually laughed at that. It's likely true though.

Jail Spleen

Alan T · 10-10-2006, 06:03 PM

2 hours until day deadline. Currently as votes stand there will be no new sheriff and no lynches tonight.

election votes: (11 votes needed for new sheriff)

No new sheriff votes.

lynch votes: (11 votes needed for lynch)

(0) lathum -
(10) goldeneagle - hoopsguy (481), grammaticus (500), Barkeep (521), Ntndeacon (522), Racer (576), Sndvls (587), path (590), Spleen (604), lathum (655), Fouts (661)

path12 · 10-10-2006, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

You guys can put me in jail for lynch tomorrow. I still have another day to get myself out of a lynching and I think I can do that. So, feel free to put me in jail.

That's the second time you've said that. If you're so sure you can get yourself out of a lynching you might want to think about the upside of talking yourself out of a jailing.

path12 · 10-10-2006, 06:05 PM

I'm out in about 20 minutes until post-lynch. I understand Cronin's position, but I really think it's better to lynch someone and I haven't seen anything to make me not

Lynch GE

Fouts · 10-10-2006, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

You guys can put me in jail for lynch tomorrow. I still have another day to get myself out of a lynching and I think I can do that. So, feel free to put me in jail.

How on earth will you be able to get yourslef out of a lynching when you are taking this much heat for a jailing? Are you related to the sheriff?

spleen1015 · 10-10-2006, 06:09 PM

Having me in jail is a waste for the villagers because I'm a villager.

Not being in jail, I think the cowboys are going to come after me because no believes that I am a villager without a role.

Thinking about this even more, no matter what, my goose is cooked.

path12 · 10-10-2006, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

Having me in jail is a waste for the villagers because I'm a villager.

Not being in jail, I think the cowboys are going to come after me because no believes that I am a villager without a role.

Thinking about this even more, no matter what, my goose is cooked.

Actually if you're a villager, the cowboys are gonna stay far away from you and wait for us to do the job for them.

st.cronin · 10-10-2006, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

Having me in jail is a waste for the villagers because I'm a villager.

Not being in jail, I think the cowboys are going to come after me because no believes that I am a villager without a role.

Thinking about this even more, no matter what, my goose is cooked.

If what you say is true, and somehow you avoid jail, the cowboys won't touch you.

spleen1015 · 10-10-2006, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

How on earth will you be able to get yourslef out of a lynching when you are taking this much heat for a jailing? Are you related to the sheriff?

Am I related to the sheriff? Now that is an interesting question. What does that have to do with this? I don't know saldana in real life.

spleen1015 · 10-10-2006, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

Actually if you're a villager, the cowboys are gonna stay far away from you and wait for us to do the job for them.

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

If what you say is true, and somehow you avoid jail, the cowboys won't touch you.

I hope you guys are right, but I doubt it. Even the guys on my side don't believe me, so why should the Cowboys?

path12 · 10-10-2006, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

Having me in jail is a waste for the villagers because I'm a villager.

By the way, I hope this wasn't the argument you were planning on using tomorrow if you get jailed.

spleen1015 · 10-10-2006, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

By the way, I hope this wasn't the argument you were planning on using tomorrow if you get jailed.

You guys already know you're a whole lot smarter than me. No need kicking me in the nuts with it.

path12 · 10-10-2006, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

You guys already know you're a whole lot smarter than me. No need kicking me in the nuts with it.

Dude, sorry if it came off that way, it wasn't intended to. What I'm trying to say is that if you really are good, I'd like to not lynch you because you've been a vocal player and that's always a good thing. What I need though is a good reason to think otherwise. Right now there is a direct contradiction between what is stated in the rules and what you've said. You've also said that you believe you can convince us not to lynch you. I would like to hear that argument so as to better make a decision. That's all.

bulletsponge · 10-10-2006, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

Try being the school teacher. I got nothing. Alan could have given me the ability to research someones history or something, but noooo.

want me to shot you to put you outta yur misery?

bulletsponge · 10-10-2006, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

You guys already know you're a whole lot smarter than me. No need kicking me in the nuts with it.

they aint smarter, just cagier. theyve seen more tricks. *hic*

Grammaticus · 10-10-2006, 06:31 PM

JAIL Spleen

If everyone has a role and you are saying you don't......

10-10-2006, 05:54 PM	#679
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	agree with jail spleen __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

10-10-2006, 06:05 PM	#688
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I'm out in about 20 minutes until post-lynch. I understand Cronin's position, but I really think it's better to lynch someone and I haven't seen anything to make me not Lynch GE __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

10-10-2006, 05:19 PM	#654
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	I totally agree with St. Cronin. I feel we are miles ahead of the cowboys right now and are not a day behind like everybody keeps claiming. We should free Lathum and throw somebody else in jail. Keep GE in jail until he spills what he knows, but dont execute him.

10-10-2006, 05:20 PM	#655
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	ok, FWIW LYNCH GE We need the information, also Spleen is all over the place trying to throw blame on everyone, I think he is a good candidate to throw in jail.

10-10-2006, 05:20 PM	#656
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	I dont trust people who know one another in real life playing this game together. Too suspicious.

10-10-2006, 05:23 PM	#657
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Due to saldana's information, I won't be voting to lynch Lathum. I leave for class in an hour, and will vote to lynch GE if he doesn't give a great reason not to lynch him.

10-10-2006, 05:26 PM	#659
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	So if fouts would have forgotten to vote and had a busy day at work yesterday he would be in jail about to be lynched? Or Barkeep, or st.cronin? Or me? That sounds like a shitty deal. I definitly wont be voting to lynch unless somebody gives me a great reason why.

10-10-2006, 05:30 PM	#661
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Heck, I just convinced myself. lynch GE

10-10-2006, 05:32 PM	#663
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	UNLYNCH Lathum For obvious reasons. Fouts is correct. As I stated earlier, this is my third game. So, I am inexperienced. I am trying to help the villagers in whatever way that I can. I will cool my jets with all of my theories flying around. I'm not opposed to being jailed, either. I like the protection and I think I can convince you guys not to lynch my villager ass tomorrow.

10-10-2006, 05:34 PM	#665
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Also, LSG we are more likely to lynch a good guy than a bad guy regardless. But not lynching statistically supports a wolf win. Also, lynching a non voter either gets rid of a wolf or a townie who is not playing. You don't want the end game to come down to someone that does not have a continuous voting history.

10-10-2006, 05:37 PM	#667
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Spleen, it is probably better to defend yourself against jailing. If you are jailed, you are only one of potentially three lynch options. You may get lynched because you are a better option than the other two.

10-10-2006, 05:43 PM	#668
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	My only actions in this game has been reading what everyone else posts and trying to read things into that and come up with some ideas on who could be what based on what I am reading. I admit that I am probably a little paranoid and a lot of what I say is way off base, but I am trying my best to play the game. I'm just trying to help the villagers win the game. There is a big reason why I am trying so hard, as well. I want to contribute and this is the only way I can.

10-10-2006, 05:53 PM	#677
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	Jail Spleen

10-10-2006, 05:56 PM	#681
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	I promise you guys that I don't have a role. I know what Alan T said, but I really don't have a role.

10-10-2006, 06:00 PM	#684
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	I bet if I don't get jailed, I get it from the cowboys because Alan did say everyone has a role, but I am telling you....I DON'T HAVE A ROLE!

10-10-2006, 06:03 PM	#686
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	2 hours until day deadline. Currently as votes stand there will be no new sheriff and no lynches tonight. election votes: (11 votes needed for new sheriff) No new sheriff votes. lynch votes: (11 votes needed for lynch) (0) lathum - (10) goldeneagle - hoopsguy (481), grammaticus (500), Barkeep (521), Ntndeacon (522), Racer (576), Sndvls (587), path (590), Spleen (604), lathum (655), Fouts (661)

10-10-2006, 06:09 PM	#690
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	Having me in jail is a waste for the villagers because I'm a villager. Not being in jail, I think the cowboys are going to come after me because no believes that I am a villager without a role. Thinking about this even more, no matter what, my goose is cooked.

10-10-2006, 06:31 PM	#700
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	JAIL Spleen If everyone has a role and you are saying you don't......

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