Werewolf CXXV - Vegas, Baby - VILLAGERS WIN

[cougarfreak]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

FYI, the other people who I have absolutely no idea what they spent money on:

tyketime
mckerney
cougarfreak

I'm not sure on my remaining balance, I did put a bid on a service last night, but lost, it was on the knuckles guy.

[cougarfreak]

For those of you wondering about me, go back......I've hit the last two wolves in votes, and I think I've been in on them fairly early, no hiding from me. I don't chime in much, because honestly, I don't feel like I know much, I'm pretty inexperienced.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by cougarfreak

I'm not sure on my remaining balance, I did put a bid on a service last night, but lost, it was on the knuckles guy.

Thanks! Can you let me know when you find out? And tyketime, I still didn't get an answer from you.

[Darth Vilus]

Hey guys I just got back from school a little while ago and then had something to eat. All this looks good to me, I didn't really know about Salldana but I thought there was a really good chance that Mckerney was a wolf, I voted him the last two days after all.

Vote Mckerney

I also sent him the escort last night. I figured since he had been hit with it once if he was a wolf he would be the one trying to get the Night kill because what would be the odds that he would be hit with it two days in a row.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

I also sent him the escort last night. I figured since he had been hit with it once if he was a wolf he would be the one trying to get the Night kill because what would be the odds that he would be hit with it two days in a row.

JAG won the kill last night so the escort service probably wasn't much use to anyone, unless the wolves have hidden night actions we don't know of. But it also could have prevented him from using a different service he bet on.. but we don't know if it works like that.

For at least today the wolves get to bid on the NK by themselves, so if a villager can win cassie that will potentially help us.

[Darth Vilus]

yeah that's true, looks like we have to try to get the service again. I know JAG won it but I'd thought I would use it anyways on the off chance JAG was lying. I didn't think he was but you never can tell with people

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Deadline

This is what I have, if anyone sees a correction I need to make.

J23 (8) Jackal 117, DaddyTorgo 178, Zinto 196, Danny 224, mauboy 1 230, Lathum 234, PackerFan 236, saldana 257
Lathum (5) Pass 118, mckerney 151, Tyketime 160, cougarfreak 191, Crimson Fox 217
Darth vilus (5) JAG 185, ntndeacon 197, hoopsguy 206, J23 209, Chief 211

First day voting. Remember that right before the deadline Sal switched to J23.

J23-Jackal, Daddytorgo (Lupino), Zinto, Danny, Mauboy, Lathum, Packerfan, Saldana (Presumed Wolf)

Lathum-Pass, McKerney (Presumed Wolf), Tyketime, Cougarfreak, Crimson Fox (Lupino)

Darth Vilus- Jag, NTN, Hoops, J23, and Chief

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Darth Vilus

yeah that's true, looks like we have to try to get the service again. I know JAG won it but I'd thought I would use it anyways on the off chance JAG was lying. I didn't think he was but you never can tell with people

Oh for sure, and you definitely used it on a good target.

[The Jackal]

For future reference Zinto, usually we use light green as a sign of cleared villagers.

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Vote count as of post 521

Darth Vilus (6) - Packerfanatic 299, The Jackal 369, tyketime 389, saldana 409, chief rum 452, passacaglia 511
jackal (1) - crimson fox 365
Packerfanatic (3) - mckerney 418, mauboy1 463, zinto 483
Lathum (2) - cougarfreak 419, daddy torgo 465
Daddy Torgo (5) - Lathum 492, ntndeacon 495, hoopsguy 499, darth vilus 504, JAG 508

Late run on Daddy Torgo, but mostly by people that are on the more trusted end of the spectrum or dead villagers.

DV- PF, Jackal, Tyke, Sal (Presumed Wolf), Chief, Pass
Jackal- Crimson Fox(Lupino)
Packer-McKerney(Presumed Wolf), Mauboy, Zinto
Lathum-Cougar, Daddy Torgo(Lupino)
Daddy Torgo- Lathum, NTN, Hoops, DV, Jag

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

For future reference Zinto, usually we use light green as a sign of cleared villagers.

Ok will do I am just trying to get a basic reference of voting history to the end pages.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Zinto

Ok will do I am just trying to get a basic reference of voting history to the end pages.

Yeah thanks, that's definitely helpful, especially the D1 vote. You're free to use whatever scheme you want, but people are definitely used to seeing red = wolves and green = villagers.

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Final vote count

mckerney (3) - Darth Vilus 704, tyketime 776, crimson fox 795
crimson fox (7) - The jackal 678, zinto 726, chief rum 770, JAG 781, mckerney 790, mauboy1 799, passacaglia 805
hoopsguy (2) - saldana 708, cougarfreak 753
daddy torgo (2) - hoopsguy 710, ntndeacon 767
JAG (1) - DaddyTorgo 782

McKerney(Presumed Wolf)- DV, Tyke, Crimson(Lupino)
Crimson(Lupino)- Jackal, Zinto, Chief, Jag, Mckerney(Presumed Wolf), Mauboy, Pass
Hoops-Sal, Cougar
DT(Lupino)- Hoops, NTN
Jag- DT(Lupino)

Originally Posted by Autumn

Final Vote Count

Daddy Torgo (8) - ntndeacon 866, mckerney 929, cougarfreak 936, saldana 980, chief rum 990, JAG 1011, zinto 1018, passacaglia 1025
mckerney (5) - darth vilus 931, the jackal 937, mauboy1 939, tyketime 983, daddy torgo 996

DT(Lupino)- NTN, Mckerney(Presumed Wolf), Cougar, Saldana(Presumed Wolf), Chief, Jag, Zinto, Pass
Mckerney(Presumed Wolf)-DV, Jackal, Mauboy, Tyke, DT(Lupino)

[JAG]

Not to take Zinto's thunder, but here's what I have (you can use presumed Lupino for sal and uncleared for CR if you like):

Final Day 1:

J23 (8) Jackal 117, DaddyTorgo 178, Zinto 196, Danny 224 , mauboy1 230, Lathum 234, PackerFan 236, saldana 257
Lathum (5) Pass 118, mckerney 151, Tyketime 160, cougarfreak 191, Crimson Fox 217
Darth vilus (5) JAG 185, ntndeacon 197, hoopsguy 206, J23 209, Chief 211

No Vote: Darth Vilus

Final Day 2:

Darth Vilus (6) - Packerfanatic 299, The Jackal 369, tyketime 389, saldana 409, chief rum 452, passacaglia 511
jackal (1) - crimson fox 365
Packerfanatic (3) - mckerney 418, mauboy1 463, zinto 483
Lathum (2) - cougarfreak 419, daddy torgo 465
Daddy Torgo (5) - Lathum 492, ntndeacon 495, hoopsguy 499, darth vilus 504, JAG 508

Final Day 3:

mckerney (3) - Darth Vilus 704, tyketime 776, crimson fox 795
crimson fox (7) - The jackal 678, zinto 726, chief rum 770, JAG 781, mckerney 790, mauboy1 799, passacaglia 805
hoopsguy (2) - saldana 708, cougarfreak 753
daddy torgo (2) - hoopsguy 710, ntndeacon 767
JAG (1) - DaddyTorgo 782

Final Day 4:

Daddy Torgo (8) - ntndeacon 866, mckerney 929, cougarfreak 936, saldana 980, chief rum 990, JAG 1011, zinto 1018, passacaglia 1025
mckerney (5) - darth vilus 931, the jackal 937, mauboy1 939, tyketime 983, daddy torgo 996

[Zinto]

My only hope with posting the voting information is to hopefully get some discussion going on voting history since their has been little to none so far.

[Darth Vilus]

well voting history (in my opinion) isn't has helpful this game as it normally is because the two mafia families don't know who each other are

[Darth Vilus]

*as

[The Jackal]

I think it will be good to use when we know the sides of a few more players, say after two more days of lynches and NK's. A good reference point at least. It's tough because on day 1 there were no wolves on the block.

[Darth Vilus]

True, very true. once we have a few more players down it should be a pretty good tool.

[saldana]

busy afternoon at work.

i realize i am not on the block anymore today thanks to the scan on McK, but i feel the need to defend this now since i am sure to be back on tomorrow.

the only other thing i have to say to the JAG issue is this...according to him, knuckles wouldnt kill me because i am supposed to me mafia, but i have had it confirmed that Lefty stole from me...so if JAG is telling the truth, then it is OK to steal from the Mafia, but not to kill them...that doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me...Knuckles doesnt want to get involved with pissing of the mob, but Lefty has no issues....double standard of mechanics if thats true

i am a villager..i have accounted for all my money...do you actually think if i were a wolf, i would still have any money with the amount that has been spent on Knuckles thus far?

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by saldana

busy afternoon at work.

i realize i am not on the block anymore today thanks to the scan on McK, but i feel the need to defend this now since i am sure to be back on tomorrow.

the only other thing i have to say to the JAG issue is this...according to him, knuckles wouldnt kill me because i am supposed to me mafia, but i have had it confirmed that Lefty stole from me...so if JAG is telling the truth, then it is OK to steal from the Mafia, but not to kill them...that doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me...Knuckles doesnt want to get involved with pissing of the mob, but Lefty has no issues....double standard of mechanics if thats true

i am a villager..i have accounted for all my money...do you actually think if i were a wolf, i would still have any money with the amount that has been spent on Knuckles thus far?

Have fun being dead tomorrow, sorry.... Just the way its going now.

[mauchow]

And if there is another actual wolf scan tomorrow, I will be going that route over you Saldana, but the evidence is pointing your way unfortunately.

[Danny]

DV, check your FB messages and let me know about tomorrow.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by saldana

busy afternoon at work.

i realize i am not on the block anymore today thanks to the scan on McK, but i feel the need to defend this now since i am sure to be back on tomorrow.

the only other thing i have to say to the JAG issue is this...according to him, knuckles wouldnt kill me because i am supposed to me mafia, but i have had it confirmed that Lefty stole from me...so if JAG is telling the truth, then it is OK to steal from the Mafia, but not to kill them...that doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me...Knuckles doesnt want to get involved with pissing of the mob, but Lefty has no issues....double standard of mechanics if thats true

i am a villager..i have accounted for all my money...do you actually think if i were a wolf, i would still have any money with the amount that has been spent on Knuckles thus far?

I think we had 5451 spent on Knuckles. If JAG is to be believed, then you can take out the 1800 he spent, and 3651 was spent by wolves. If we're looking at 6 wolves total, they could still have 2349 left, without having won any bets. Even if JAG is a wolf, the wolves could still have 549 left.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I think we had 5451 spent on Knuckles. If JAG is to be believed, then you can take out the 1800 he spent, and 3651 was spent by wolves. If we're looking at 6 wolves total, they could still have 2349 left, without having won any bets. Even if JAG is a wolf, the wolves could still have 549 left.

That would also assume that the wolves killed three villagers without money.

[Autumn]

I'm still having trouble getting in and out of the board, thus any delays from me tonight.

Vote Count
mckerney (10) - mauboy1 1124, chief rum 1135, Zinto 1137, JAG 1139, the jackal 1141, saldana 1142, tyketime 1143, ntndeacon 1149, cougarfreak 1150, darth vilus 1154

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by JAG

That would also assume that the wolves killed three villagers without money.

Good point. If you're to be believed, they could have more from that. We know that hoops had 849. However, on the other hand, we don't know how much the two wolves had on them when they died.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Danny

DV, check your FB messages and let me know about tomorrow.

oops, I meant Friday

[Darth Vilus]

Oh i think friday should be ok man

[Darth Vilus]

just message me which one

[saldana]

Originally Posted by JAG

That would also assume that the wolves killed three villagers without money.

why would you make that assumption?

was it said anywhere that the wolves get money off of their night kills...i certainly didnt know that, so how would you unless you are a wolf?

wow...how many more holes in your story are there.

[Autumn]

I'll just wait until Danny and Darth are done. Do you two have anything to say to the class?

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by saldana

why would you make that assumption?

was it said anywhere that the wolves get money off of their night kills...i certainly didnt know that, so how would you unless you are a wolf?

wow...how many more holes in your story are there.

This is something that has been bandied around, and generally assumed that the wolves would receive the money from the people they killed. But no confirmation, of course.

[Autumn]

Deadline (if Danny and Darth don't mind)

[Autumn]

The day begins with accusations called out against Saldana, claiming he is a member of the mob. It looks ominous for him but attention is soon deflected as another accusation is laid out. Chief Rum declares that he had a private investigator dig up dirt on McKerney. The evidence he lays out seems damning. The residents as a whole all line up to cast their ballots against the new guy in town.

The ballot is read and indeed there's no funny business this time. He can't squirm out of it, the cops already standing next to his seat as the counts are read. He can only shake his head as the hands are clamped down on his shoulder and he is made to stand. A quick pat down of his body reveals his ID card, secreted in an inside pocket.

"Member of the Vampiri Family" it reads. The crowd assembled just shake their hands as he is escorted away.

[The Jackal]

Throw some chalk at them!

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by saldana

why would you make that assumption?

was it said anywhere that the wolves get money off of their night kills...i certainly didnt know that, so how would you unless you are a wolf?

wow...how many more holes in your story are there.

JAG said he learned that this was the case when he hired Knuckles last night.

[The Jackal]

Surprise!



Oh wait, we knew that was going to happen. Three days in a row, good streak for us, let's make it four!

[Passacaglia]

w00t!

[Darth Vilus]

Originally Posted by Autumn

I'll just wait until Danny and Darth are done. Do you two have anything to say to the class?

Hello, my name is Darth Vilus and I'm a WW player.

[cougarfreak]

That was a given.......

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by cougarfreak

That was a given.......

Yo dude, did you ever figure out your balance?

[Autumn]

Information on bids and bets will be going out by PM now.

[Darth Vilus]

Oh sweet! Let's keep it rollin!

[Danny]

Yay!

[Danny]

It was a bit rude for Autumn to post before waiting for my response though

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Yo dude, did you ever figure out your balance?

Tick tick tick

[Darth Vilus]

That is true. Maybe it was rhetorical

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Yo dude, did you ever figure out your balance?

Shouldn't be that hard, unless he deleted all his PMs.. Autumn seems to be on top of saying how much money we have. I can understand if his money didn't change not getting it reported one night, but still.

[saldana]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

JAG said he learned that this was the case when he hired Knuckles last night.

how...if he didnt kill anyone, how would he know that he would or wouldnt get money from the guy he killed unless he has killed someone else earlier in the game?