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Old 09-07-2005, 08:27 PM   #501
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Marc V.

Schmidty, don't let me down.

I won't, because I am NOT a fucking spawn.

Thanks for the faith bro. It'll pay-off.
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:29 PM   #502
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I chose Marc because I don't recall him ever defending himself.
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:30 PM   #503
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I don't think MArc is a spwn, but now (based on his reaction) I don't think Schmidty is either.
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:31 PM   #504
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Agreed.
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:32 PM   #505
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It is dramatic. While Marc sits there with his stiff upper lip, Schmidty goes from one person to the next beseeching them not to kill them. With the crew all looking to Ardent he sits there and ponders. In the end it seems that over the months Schmidty and the Captain have bonded and so with a heavy heart Ardent nods towards Marc. The crew emits an audible gasp.

Marc is led off. He solemnly proclaims his innocence but does not fight the crowd. While Marc's death was with dignity no such honor can be given to the dead and so his body is torn open. The gore turns more than one crew member's stomache.

In the end the search reveals that he was....
A SPAWN!.
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:33 PM   #506
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YES!!!!!!
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:34 PM   #507
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Heh. Very suprised. Pleasantly surpised .

Ardent is the king of these guesses.
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:34 PM   #508
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:35 PM   #509
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Well tomorrow we can look at who initially built it up on schmidty.
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:37 PM   #510
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As always you have until 9 to get your night actions in.

For the record I think this was a case of geographic discrimination. Marc is no doubt sleeping away peacefully thinking his status is safe. I suppose this couldn't be avoided but I'm sorry to see him die with no real chance to defend himself. Of course it works out well for the survivors...
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:39 PM   #511
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That's why I'm the captain. Garrr. Where's me coffee!?!
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:39 PM   #512
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1: Ardent kicked it off. Obiovusly Ardent is totally clear
2: Hoops
3: Kwhit
4: King
5: Me
6: Saldana
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:39 PM   #513
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Wow! I don't think we had any reason to think Marc was a spawn, but I didn't want to come out too much against the crowd. I think we got a lucky hit, but maybe when we swap war stories we can sort it out!
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:41 PM   #514
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Well tomorrow we can look at who initially built it up on schmidty.
I recall Vince and I were the initial votes.
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:41 PM   #515
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1: Ardent kicked it off. Obiovusly Ardent is totally clear
2: Hoops
3: Kwhit
4: King
5: Me
6: Saldana

I'm pretty confident there are 2-3 spawn in that list.
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:41 PM   #516
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I recall Vince and I were the initial votes.

Did I miss Vince?
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:42 PM   #517
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It took us two days, but we got the evidence we needed(the 2nd away mission) to narrow the list of possible spawn down a little. Thankfully we got one today. My question is was he the only spawn on that mission?

I'm clean, I'm pretty sure KWhit is clean, Schmidty seems adament that he is clean but what about Fouts, Passacaglia, and pennywisesb? One of Pennywise or Passacaglia could have been Spawn b/c the general rule(in my experience) is atleast 3 badguys to start. Only 2 attacked Vince, where was the other one?

Lastly I have one question for Barkeep, if someone is spawn can they actually perform their duty and not just fake it? My question pertains to this...

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A person may pretend to perform one of their actions but not actually complete the task. For instance, a spawn engineer may pretend to be repairing the Security Room but really do nothing. This is undetectable to anyone else, but will not result in any changes (so in the example the damage would not go down by one man cycle).

Prehaps Marc decided he wanted to do the away mission normal yesterday so he didn't draw attention to himself. Then after seeing the haul of water we got yesterday decided he needed to take action today and sabotage the entire mission.
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:42 PM   #518
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Maybe I did. I thought he started the voting.
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:43 PM   #519
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WOOHOO! Good job guys!

I'm surprised by the result. I wonder if he was a spawn to begin with and just didn't sabotage the 1st water mission for some reason. We'll probably never know.
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:45 PM   #520
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What's the status on the engine room? Either it's repaired or was have a faker in my group, right?.
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:47 PM   #521
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i guess is look like a jerk for switching off, my humblest apologies schmitty.
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:47 PM   #522
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Hopefully he was a spawn the whole time, and no one has been infected, expect Vince. Can spawn even sabotage away team missions?
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:49 PM   #523
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Ok, I'm assuming I should protect either KWhit, myself (If I'm allowed), or someone else that voted for Marc tonight. Then again, I could spy.

What do you guys think?
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:50 PM   #524
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I wonder if I made the spawn angry tonight. I wonder if I'm a target now.
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:51 PM   #525
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Schmidty, I say spy. Ardent, why wouldn't you be a target right away?
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:51 PM   #526
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I wonder if I made the spawn angry tonight. I wonder if I'm a target now.

I thought you couldn't be lynched or killed by the spawn? If you can be, I'll definitely be protecting you tonight.
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:52 PM   #527
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I think I can be targetted by spawn. Heck, I could be wrong though. I don't believe I can be lynched, just the mutiny thing. With tonight's vote, I don't think that's happening any time soon.
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:52 PM   #528
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Whatever you are doing I wouldn't make it obvious who you are protecting .
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:54 PM   #529
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Also, don't tell everyone if you've decied to spy. On the other hand, if you bluff and say that you ARE going to spy, the spawn might back off.
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:57 PM   #530
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Good Job Ardent
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:58 PM   #531
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I think ardent can be targetted by the spawn.
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:58 PM   #532
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Time out. Can I get a rules clarification?
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:59 PM   #533
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What's the status on the engine room? Either it's repaired or was have a faker in my group, right?.
Before people go to bed the engineers come out of the Engine Room and report that the computer is doing a final diagnostics but assuming nothing goes wrong over night lift-off would be an option tomorrow

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if someone is spawn can they actually perform their duty and not just fake it

Spawn may choose to preform the duties so as not to raise suspicion or they may choose to fake it. The choice is theirs.
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:59 PM   #534
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It would be useful if the doctor and nurse posted who all they had scanned so far and what days they did the scan.
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Old 09-07-2005, 09:00 PM   #535
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A word to the spawn:

I will very likely be examined by the doctor or nurse tomorrow. So it would do you no good to come after me tonight.

Hoping that leads to a peaceful and safe sleep tonight.

Of course, I wouldn't mind a little protection anyway.
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Old 09-07-2005, 09:00 PM   #536
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Time out. Can I get a rules clarification?
You're safe from executions (lynchings) but not from Spawn attack (either regular or Spawnling). Of course if they do a regular attack on you and kill you, the chain of command moves up. Cold comfort for you, I know, but the mission must go on
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Old 09-07-2005, 09:01 PM   #537
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We need the engine room guarded tonight, btw. And our water supply, IMO.
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Old 09-07-2005, 09:01 PM   #538
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Before people go to bed the engineers come out of the Engine Room and report that the computer is doing a final diagnostics but assuming nothing goes wrong over night lift-off would be an option tomorrow

So does this mean no more repair cycles are left? Or is this something you can't say. Obviously if assigning more engineers to it is something that will help we should do that.
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Old 09-07-2005, 09:01 PM   #539
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Ok, I'm assuming I should protect either KWhit, myself (If I'm allowed), or someone else that voted for Marc tonight. Then again, I could spy.

What do you guys think?
I think it's strange that you are giving away your role this early.
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Old 09-07-2005, 09:02 PM   #540
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I think it's strange that you are giving away your role this early.

It was known in the beginning. Maybe you should read the rules.

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Old 09-07-2005, 09:02 PM   #541
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It's his public role.
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Old 09-07-2005, 09:04 PM   #542
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I think it's strange that you are giving away your role this early.

Public role, dude.
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Old 09-07-2005, 09:04 PM   #543
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So does this mean no more repair cycles are left? Or is this something you can't say. Obviously if assigning more engineers to it is something that will help we should do that.
Lift-off may only happen during the day but at the moment no room is damaged.
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Old 09-07-2005, 09:06 PM   #544
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I think it's strange that you are giving away your role this early.

Giving away my role? It's posted for everyone to see - Security Officer.
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Old 09-07-2005, 09:16 PM   #545
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Giving away my role? It's posted for everyone to see - Security Officer.
my bad, I thought it was hidden
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Old 09-07-2005, 09:26 PM   #546
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Ardent, great job with the tie-breaker.

Schmidty - I don't disagree with your point on Fouts at all in terms of him drawing zero heat, especially compared to you. Bringing some past werewolf history into play, you were the two players I had the most guilt about from the last game I was in. I didn't like being in a position where I was putting heat on either one of you, but going after Marc felt really, really random.

I am hopeful that today's voting patterns are very helpful going forward. A 7-7 tie that breaks in favor of the crew/villagers/etc is a wonderful thing. Given that there were two bandwagons here, you can pull information on the people who initially built a bandwagon on a spawn (likely not spawn) and the people who swung it the other direction (have to be strongly considered suspect.

I would look at tomorrow's Away Mission as having a smaller group that is composed of a subset of todays group. If possible, bring along only one strong suspect and a couple of relatively trusted people. Kwhit, good luck defining a team that meets that criteria. But I would run that mission early and have the doc/nurse available to scope someone out in the event that we don't pull our fair share of water.

I'm looking for company on the night shift guarding the water tonight. But I would obviously understand if people are trying to secure the engine room.
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Old 09-07-2005, 09:34 PM   #547
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Lift-off may only happen during the day but at the moment no room is damaged.
Sweet. I think you know what I'm planning for tomorrow.
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Old 09-07-2005, 09:35 PM   #548
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So it seems to me that we should look not at people who accused Schmidty, but those who defended Marc. However, I'm wondering if the other spawn figured that Marc was a lost cause -- it seems that from other werewolf games, the less active ones get voted for. The other spawn might not have thought it worthwhile exposing themselves by defending him.
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Old 09-07-2005, 09:48 PM   #549
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It would be useful if the doctor and nurse posted who all they had scanned so far and what days they did the scan.

DAY 1
Vince scanned AE - reported AE is clean
RA scanned VInce - reported Vince is celan

DAY 2
Vince scanned himself - reported he was infected and that he cured himself
RA scanned King - reported King was clean


As for tonight. I ordered to have our key guys locked up to hopefully keep them safe from an attack while leaving those with night actions available. I figured Vince, RA, dubb would be 3 high profile targets and if they were in the brig they could not be attacked from the outside and would allow us to not have to use any man power guarding them.

I choose pennywise at random because he was on the first away mission that went well and I'm hoping he is clean.

I think the engine room NEEDS to be guarded tonight to allow us to liftoff tomorrow.
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Old 09-07-2005, 09:51 PM   #550
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King, in the future can you consult with me before giving me that order...i had one person i was dying to put in the room that you decided not to do...he is far beyond anyone else on my suspicion list and wanted him in there...may change after tonight, but in the future i would ask the courtesy of discussing it with me. Its the only thing i can do in the game and would like to have input into what happens.
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