Werewolf XX - Of Demons and Elementals (Humans Win!) - Page 13

Blade6119 · 12-30-2005, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

That's an odd play, Blade ... I don't see you living very long putting that out there.

Why not, as it stands im a better friend to the wolves then any random villager. Dacman now counts as a villager after getting attacked once. If the wolves had attacked dacman, all they would have done is added one more villager to the ratio they have to beat. If im not mistaken, he didnt count as one before. All im saying is im not the best target. They can attack me if they would like, i dont mind.

Poli · 12-30-2005, 09:43 PM

Anyone see this as "Elementals Gone Bad"?

Poli · 12-30-2005, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

CW, when an elemental is revealed do we learn if he is the "human" or "demon" elemental? Or just an elemental and it is up to us to discern which one?

The elementals are not affiliated with either side. They are independant entities who help/hinder both sides, and have their own agendas.

Blade, are you sure about dacman being a "villager" now? Edit: Oops, blue is CW from earlier in the thread.

st.cronin · 12-30-2005, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Why not, as it stands im a better friend to the wolves then any random villager. Dacman now counts as a villager after getting attacked once. If the wolves had attacked dacman, all they would have done is added one more villager to the ratio they have to beat. If im not mistaken, he didnt count as one before. All im saying is im not the best target. They can attack me if they would like, i dont mind.

I am pretty positive that the bolded part is NOT true.

Blade6119 · 12-30-2005, 09:47 PM

In my mind i have not lied once this game...dont think ive lied in like 5 games now...ive stated my thoughts and generally tried to help the humans win. If you feel otherwise, vote me. Just know for all his pushing today for me(one big post comes to mind), hoops came very close to getting killed. You can call me what you will, but i am honest to god doing what i think will help the villagers win.

Poli · 12-30-2005, 09:49 PM

Wow, all sorts of stuff coming out now. I need that blasted popcorn!

Blade6119 · 12-30-2005, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

The Elementals
An elemental being threatened (ie - is lynched or murdered) will immediatly revert to their natural form, with the ensuing wave of power preventing their demise. However, once they have been reduced to their true form, they may be executed by either side at their leisure.Their role is revealed when it happens, and then they are just as vulnerable as anyone else.

You can take from that what you will, i have drawn my own conclusions about it which i stated

Blade6119 · 12-30-2005, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Wow, all sorts of stuff coming out now. I need that blasted popcorn!

Ask me whatever you want about my actions and ill tell you...im not going to come out with a blatant role reveal, as i have put out enough information for people to figure it out if they try...but ill try to answer questions you have...i have yet to lie though.

Coffee Warlord · 12-30-2005, 09:53 PM

I'll reiterate. Revealed or not, elementals are on their own side. They will never count as a demon or human.

TazFTW · 12-30-2005, 09:54 PM

owned

Poli · 12-30-2005, 09:54 PM

Couple of hattrickers here:

NEWSFLASH:

USA NT FORWARD FIRED

Jerry Gurley disappeared along with his team today. Gone.

Blade6119 · 12-30-2005, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

That's an odd play, Blade ... I don't see you living very long putting that out there.

Dola, with dacman down the wolves cant afford to shoot for an elemental as they get favors from elementals too..if all the elementals lose their power bye bye favors

Blade6119 · 12-30-2005, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

I'll reiterate. Revealed or not, elementals are on their own side. They will never count as a demon or human.

I was mistaken then, but my post above stands

hoopsguy · 12-30-2005, 09:56 PM

Well, good news is that we didn't lose a human today. Bad news is that we still appear pretty clueless on demons.

Add me to the list that would be happy to be scanned tonight if it would help with trust issues. But there would be some remorse there knowing that it would not reveal a demon and thus not directly contribute to a lynching tomorrow.

Count me among the curious to see how dacman plays at this point.

Coffee, are the elementals identities known amongst their group, similar to the demons?

Blade6119 · 12-30-2005, 09:56 PM

come on hoops, i see you lurking around...i almost had you killed, you have to have something to say

Coffee Warlord · 12-30-2005, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Coffee, are the elementals identities known amongst their group, similar to the demons?

Yep.

Poli · 12-30-2005, 09:57 PM

Blade6119

Who has had "favors" so far in the game?

Blade6119 · 12-30-2005, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

True or false: Blade6119

Who has had "favors" so far in the game?

True or false?? either way, i could only guess..i never decided anything relating to favors this game

Poli · 12-30-2005, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

True or false?? either way, i could only guess..i never decided anything relating to favors this game

Sorry, I meant to say is...do you know anything about the favors? Who has them, who's received them? Stuff of that nature.

Is saldan lieing about the elemental coverup?

Inquiring minds want to know!

Blade6119 · 12-30-2005, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Sorry, I meant to say is...do you know anything about the favors? Who has them, who's received them? Stuff of that nature.

Is saldan lieing about the elemental coverup?

Inquiring minds want to know!

Im not sure which elemental coverup your refferring to(i must have missed it)...but again, i could only guess

Blade6119 · 12-30-2005, 10:02 PM

dola, i repeat that i have yet to lie this game...note that as you consider these answers...i will stop soon when i think even one person understands my full role

st.cronin · 12-30-2005, 10:03 PM

I think ardent means saldana's claim that the reason he couldn't id his assailant was an elemental favor????

I don't know how anybody would know that. Except possibly the druid.

Poli · 12-30-2005, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Im not sure which elemental coverup your refferring to(i must have missed it)...but again, i could only guess

Now you're playing with me.

Saldana said he couldn't find evidence of his attacker because the elementals got rid of the evidence. Is this true?

Have the elementals done anything favor wise to sway the game?

Blade6119 · 12-30-2005, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Now you're playing with me.

Saldana said he couldn't find evidence of his attacker because the elementals got rid of the evidence. Is this true?

Have the elementals done anything favor wise to sway the game?

i could only guess...i think im going to copy that and just paste it if you keep asking me questions on this line as the answer will be the same. I still have yet to lie, and wont this entire game unless it saves my ass

Poli · 12-30-2005, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

I think ardent means saldana's claim that the reason he couldn't id his assailant was an elemental favor????

I don't know how anybody would know that. Except possibly the druid.

Who blade or me?

If blade's an elemental I think he'd know if he granted a favor, which is what I'm getting at.

Poli · 12-30-2005, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

i could only guess...i think im going to copy that and just paste it if you keep asking me questions on this line as the answer will be the same. I still have yet to lie, and wont this entire game unless it saves my ass

Duly noted. Just pumping you for information. I'll stand down.

Poli · 12-30-2005, 10:06 PM

I sufficiently have no idea what to think of blade6119.

hoopsguy · 12-30-2005, 10:07 PM

Blade, might sound weird but I wasn't ever too worried about dying today. Does it sound cliche to suggest that the truth will set you free?

Ardent, sounds like you are certainly of the opinion that Blade is an elemental. I obviously thought it was a strong possibility with my last post before leaving earlier tonight. I've got some re-reading to do to figure out if I still think that.

Dacman, do you have anything that you would like to share about how favors have worked up to this point? If your goals happen to align with the human goals on that topic then I would certainly be intrigued to hear your thoughts as we know your status at this point.

st.cronin · 12-30-2005, 10:08 PM

ardent, you think Blade is an elemental? ... why wouldn't he just come out and say it, instead of trying to make us think it?

Blade6119 · 12-30-2005, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Duly noted. Just pumping you for information. I'll stand down.

I hope you understand what role i was getting at with those answers and past comments...if not im sure the wolves reading along(like 8 people) do by now. At least my role cant really harm them in anyway

Poli · 12-30-2005, 10:08 PM

Hoops, excellent line of questioning.

Perhaps each elemental has a certain role. Blade could be that executioner elemental I've been fearing.

Maybe dacman was the favor granter or something.

WVUFAN · 12-30-2005, 10:09 PM

My question is -- is is possible for the Elementals AND the villagers to both win, or is it truly a battle between three different groups?

If it's a battle between the three groups, the Elementals may not be the friends we think they could be. How EXACTLY do they win?

Poli · 12-30-2005, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

ardent, you think Blade is an elemental? ... why wouldn't he just come out and say it, instead of trying to make us think it?

Dude, I'm about as clueless as they come. I got nothing. I don't know.

Blade6119 · 12-30-2005, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Blade, might sound weird but I wasn't ever too worried about dying today. Does it sound cliche to suggest that the truth will set you free?

In my mind the wolves will kill known villagers...i dont want to fall into that category...with Coffee saying what he did about dacman that category includes WVU and WVU right now..im not too excited about making that a two horse race just yet.

Poli · 12-30-2005, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

I hope you understand what role i was getting at with those answers and past comments...if not im sure the wolves reading along(like 8 people) do by now. At least my role cant really harm them in anyway

I'm trying, blade. I'm trying.

st.cronin · 12-30-2005, 10:13 PM

I think I know what blade is trying to do, but i think it's not going to work. I think the demons go for him tonight.

Blade6119 · 12-30-2005, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I'm trying, blade. I'm trying.

I know, thats why im giving a lot more information then i would like to have...the past 20 minutes just about ensured i will not survive this game...just note people reading all this if i get attacked at night tonight

Blade6119 · 12-30-2005, 10:14 PM

and hoops, since he just left

Barkeep49 · 12-30-2005, 10:14 PM

My net connection will likely be sporadic until Jan 3. I will be around, just not as much as I would like. While we didn't lose a demon, I think we have at least 1 trusted human, in addition to the known elemental. Considering we were effectively flying blind I'm pleased.

Poli · 12-30-2005, 10:15 PM

I think a light just came on.

Blade6119 · 12-30-2005, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I think a light just came on.

My role is pretty innocuous really...not any real threat to the wolves...i held off doing anything today becuase i wanted to see where all the pieces fell from the spread out vote and who died...now i dont think i can use my role...oh well, its been fun if i died..i love getting accused.

st.cronin · 12-30-2005, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

My net connection will likely be sporadic until Jan 3. I will be around, just not as much as I would like. While we didn't lose a demon, I think we have at least 1 trusted human, in addition to the known elemental. Considering we were effectively flying blind I'm pleased.

That makes me sad if you're a human. Your input has been invaluable in past games.

Blade6119 · 12-30-2005, 10:24 PM

and if i die, it was a pleasure playing with you guys...ill see you all next game(looks at saldana)...sorry for pushing so hard for ya if you are good, i felt wvu was good

saldana · 12-30-2005, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

and if i die, it was a pleasure playing with you guys...ill see you all next game(looks at saldana)...sorry for pushing so hard for ya if you are good, i felt wvu was good

i wont be voting for you anytime soon, so if the demons dont get you, i plan on picking up right where i left off with cronin....and no need to apologize...i just got a bit frustrated with the fact that semantics were the cause of the suspicion of me...i cant control what CW writes, and the difference between the two stories wasnt my fault...that was what was pissing me off.

btw, did you see i already assigned your role in my game at the end of the last game thread

Blade6119 · 12-30-2005, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

i wont be voting for you anytime soon, so if the demons dont get you, i plan on picking up right where i left off with cronin....and no need to apologize...i just got a bit frustrated with the fact that semantics were the cause of the suspicion of me...i cant control what CW writes, and the difference between the two stories wasnt my fault...that was what was pissing me off.

btw, did you see i already assigned your role in my game at the end of the last game thread

I saw, and i swear i didnt know it was a secret...but now i should shout it from the rooftops!! Semantics? i got votes on day one for being crafty lol

hoopsguy · 12-30-2005, 10:39 PM

Barkeep, would be interested in seeing the voting chart from today - think it might be a doozy.

Blade, can you let me know why you voted with Dacman today? If I recall correctly that was your last vote of the day.

Blade6119 · 12-30-2005, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Blade, can you let me know why you voted with Dacman today? If I recall correctly that was your last vote of the day.

I had 3 votes, he had 2 and everyone else 1 or 0...i switched to him to create a tie so i wouldnt have to waste my power today. I told you i can survive one lynch vote, and i didnt want it to be today...ended up not mattering as st. cronin got late votes, but thats why i did what i did. i know your smart hoops, connect the dots here...(by the way, nice question...i know exactly where your taking it and it gets the same answer without me giving away all those messy details i did to ardent)

Poli · 12-30-2005, 10:44 PM

Blade6119 · 12-30-2005, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Is anybody else remotely suspicious of WVU's reveal? It seems like he came up with the one role that the demons wouldn't really care about. Anyway, if he is being truthful, even if they did kill him, I would assume that his title would simply pass to somebody else. There has to be SOME way to break a tie.

I have a feeling it would fall to another role most games have

Blade6119 · 12-30-2005, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

lol

Hush, your the one surviving the night action

12-30-2005, 09:43 PM	#602
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Anyone see this as "Elementals Gone Bad"? __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

12-30-2005, 09:47 PM	#605
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	In my mind i have not lied once this game...dont think ive lied in like 5 games now...ive stated my thoughts and generally tried to help the humans win. If you feel otherwise, vote me. Just know for all his pushing today for me(one big post comes to mind), hoops came very close to getting killed. You can call me what you will, but i am honest to god doing what i think will help the villagers win. __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

12-30-2005, 09:49 PM	#606
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Wow, all sorts of stuff coming out now. I need that blasted popcorn! __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

12-30-2005, 09:54 PM	#611
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Couple of hattrickers here: NEWSFLASH: USA NT FORWARD FIRED Jerry Gurley disappeared along with his team today. Gone. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

12-30-2005, 09:56 PM	#615
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	come on hoops, i see you lurking around...i almost had you killed, you have to have something to say __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

12-30-2005, 09:53 PM	#609
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	I'll reiterate. Revealed or not, elementals are on their own side. They will never count as a demon or human.

12-30-2005, 09:54 PM	#610
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	owned

12-30-2005, 09:56 PM	#614
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Well, good news is that we didn't lose a human today. Bad news is that we still appear pretty clueless on demons. Add me to the list that would be happy to be scanned tonight if it would help with trust issues. But there would be some remorse there knowing that it would not reveal a demon and thus not directly contribute to a lynching tomorrow. Count me among the curious to see how dacman plays at this point. Coffee, are the elementals identities known amongst their group, similar to the demons?

12-30-2005, 09:57 PM	#617
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Blade6119 Who has had "favors" so far in the game? __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum. Last edited by Poli : 12-30-2005 at 09:57 PM.

12-30-2005, 10:02 PM	#621
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	dola, i repeat that i have yet to lie this game...note that as you consider these answers...i will stop soon when i think even one person understands my full role __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

12-30-2005, 10:03 PM	#622
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I think ardent means saldana's claim that the reason he couldn't id his assailant was an elemental favor???? I don't know how anybody would know that. Except possibly the druid. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

12-30-2005, 10:06 PM	#627
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I sufficiently have no idea what to think of blade6119. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

12-30-2005, 10:07 PM	#628
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Blade, might sound weird but I wasn't ever too worried about dying today. Does it sound cliche to suggest that the truth will set you free? Ardent, sounds like you are certainly of the opinion that Blade is an elemental. I obviously thought it was a strong possibility with my last post before leaving earlier tonight. I've got some re-reading to do to figure out if I still think that. Dacman, do you have anything that you would like to share about how favors have worked up to this point? If your goals happen to align with the human goals on that topic then I would certainly be intrigued to hear your thoughts as we know your status at this point.

12-30-2005, 10:08 PM	#629
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	ardent, you think Blade is an elemental? ... why wouldn't he just come out and say it, instead of trying to make us think it? __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

12-30-2005, 10:08 PM	#631
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Hoops, excellent line of questioning. Perhaps each elemental has a certain role. Blade could be that executioner elemental I've been fearing. Maybe dacman was the favor granter or something. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

12-30-2005, 10:09 PM	#632
WVUFAN College Starter Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Huntington, WV	My question is -- is is possible for the Elementals AND the villagers to both win, or is it truly a battle between three different groups? If it's a battle between the three groups, the Elementals may not be the friends we think they could be. How EXACTLY do they win?

12-30-2005, 10:13 PM	#636
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I think I know what blade is trying to do, but i think it's not going to work. I think the demons go for him tonight. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

12-30-2005, 10:14 PM	#638
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	and hoops, since he just left __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

12-30-2005, 10:14 PM	#639
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	My net connection will likely be sporadic until Jan 3. I will be around, just not as much as I would like. While we didn't lose a demon, I think we have at least 1 trusted human, in addition to the known elemental. Considering we were effectively flying blind I'm pleased.

12-30-2005, 10:15 PM	#640
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I think a light just came on. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

12-30-2005, 10:24 PM	#643
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	and if i die, it was a pleasure playing with you guys...ill see you all next game(looks at saldana)...sorry for pushing so hard for ya if you are good, i felt wvu was good __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

12-30-2005, 10:39 PM	#646
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Barkeep, would be interested in seeing the voting chart from today - think it might be a doozy. Blade, can you let me know why you voted with Dacman today? If I recall correctly that was your last vote of the day.

12-30-2005, 10:44 PM	#648
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	lol __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

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