Chad Johnson vs Kobe Bryant.

[14ers]

Isn't what Chad Johnson is doing right now the exact same thing Kobe did before the basketball season started?

Why are all the experts saying the Bengals are better off without Johnson? Hell, Wilbon is trying to convince the Bengals to cut Johnson now, because he claims that Johnson is already washed-up and should be run out of town.


I fully expect to see Johnson starting in the season opener, just like I fully expected to see Kobe when the NBA season began.

[rkmsuf]

Because Kobe is WAY more important to the Lakers than Johnson to the Bengals.

[Raiders Army]

Ocho Cinco has better endzone dances. That's the difference.

[MikeVic]

I agree with papa smurf. Kobe is way more important. But I don't think you can cut him. I want them to play hard ball and just let him sit. That'd be sweet. Then the Bombers can sign him.

[Noop]

Outside of the f*cking the girl in the ass thing in Colorado, Kobe is known as a fierce competitor. While Chad is known as a bit of a prima dona so you figure it out....

[korme]

I love Marvin's attitude on the situation, challenging Chad to not play.

At the end of the day Chad will be Chad and he needs his spotlight more than anybody, and I feel like he'll be in uniform during Week 1.

And if he's not, I don't give a shit.

[Chief Rum]

Is it true the Bengals turned down a first and third (conditional, could become another first) from the Skins for Ocho? And they turned it down? If so, the entire front office should be fired.

[korme]

Cons: It's a major cap hit on our part, it's a late pick, it'd be another late pick if it became a first, draft picks are hit or miss

Pros: Chemo therapy is a success, and Chad is nearing 30 anyway

I'm very meh either way

[Neon_Chaos]

Johnson is one of 46 possible players in an NFL team. Kobe is one of 15, and one of the top 5 players in the entire sport of basketball. No comparison.

[Groundhog]

Johnson's gold teeth are prettier.

[damnMikeBrown]

86 85

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Is it true the Bengals turned down a first and third (conditional, could become another first) from the Skins for Ocho? And they turned it down? If so, the entire front office should be fired.

An eight million cap hit and losing the best receiver on the team for what last year was Reggie Nelson and Jonathan Wade? Add to that the increased rookie pool and they'd have to cut a few million to stay under by the time the season starts. Like I said a couple of months ago, the only way they'll trade 85 is if multiple first round picks are involved and they may not even then.

[rkmsuf]

the cap hit I think is 4 million over two seasons if they wait until sometime in june

chad will be with another nfl franchise in 2008

[stevew]

Please, the cap hit is irrelevant. Mike Brown would be happy to give up a chunk of next years cap, cause it will get him closer to that spending minimum. They probably want Chad to pay back a certain amount of bonus....I think if he called today and said he would give back 6m, they would have a deal done shortly.

I think they will get something done, ideally a first this year and a conditional first next year is more than fair for both sides. I don't see how going to Washington and getting teamed with average Jason Campbell will be good for Ocho.

That 8m would all accelerate to this year, but they'd be losing his 4m base, so it's a net of +4 on this years cap.

[Swaggs]

Johnson for a 1st and 3rd would be an outstanding haul for Cincy, in my opinion. Johnson had a great career w/ the Bengals. If you can have that AND turn him into two high picks, you're doing real well. It is always better to trade a guy a year or two early, rather than a year or two too late.

[Anthony]

i wouldn't be a good GM cuz i wouldn't ever give into trade demands.

[JPhillips]

steve: I'm no Mike Brown fan, but his problem isn't total spending. They've been at or near the cap for several years. The problem is how the money spent.

[st.cronin]

This is a pretty deep draft for WRs, too. It would make sense to flip him, and then try to draft his replacement - maybe Andre Caldwell in the 2nd round.

[Julio Riddols]

I'd like to see Early Doucet.

[Aylmar]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

An eight million cap hit and losing the best receiver on the team for what last year was Reggie Nelson and Jonathan Wade? Add to that the increased rookie pool and they'd have to cut a few million to stay under by the time the season starts. Like I said a couple of months ago, the only way they'll trade 85 is if multiple first round picks are involved and they may not even then.

The best receiver on the team? They're losing Houshmandzadeh too?

[rkmsuf]

Originally Posted by Aylmar

The best receiver on the team? They're losing Houshmandzadeh too?

kind now that he'll have to go against the top corners

[Aylmar]

Originally Posted by rkmsuf

kind now that he'll have to go against the top corners

True, I suppose, although I would suggest that the number of NFL teams with that large of a difference between the #1 and #2 corner are small...not many elite corners out there. You could argue the double team, I suppose, but I think Housh sees his fair share of those, too.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by Aylmar

The best receiver on the team? They're losing Houshmandzadeh too?

Deep threats are always more dangerous than possesion guys. Housh is great, but he averaged about ten yards per catch last year. CJ had a 15.5 average and 300 more yards on twenty fewer catches. Housh can be replaced if need be, but CJ stretches the defense in a way that no one else on the team can.