Werewolf L Kate Beckinsale - day 7, deadline Thursday 10pm Eastern Time

[Telle]

You know.. I'm just not really feeling it for JHandley. He has actually been pretty productive with bringing up points and whatnot. So I'm going to go ahead and unvote him... way before the deadline so we still have plenty of time to look at other candidates.

UNVOTE JHandley

[path12]

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

Hmm Path... that might a wolfish thing to do, try and push the seers to reveal themselves, are you sure that is what you want?

Nobody else seems to have any other ideas. If anyone wants to vote me for that they're free to.

[path12]

Originally Posted by JHandley

And I thought the way he said it is why the wolves killed him.

That's what I thought also. I should have waited until after night actions to question him about it probably, but that's water under the bridge.

[path12]

If someone could piece together each days vote tallys that might help us. I'd do it myself but I have another meeting coming up.

[LoneStarGirl]

I would do it but I am in class until 5 today

[RendeR]

Well others did this earlier so I will do one as well:

Trusted 100% - None really

Some trust - Kwhit, path12, Cartman

Neutral - LSG, JHandley, Daddytorgo, Telle, Schmidty

Distrust - Gonzo, Neon_Chaos

[Telle]

Originally Posted by path12

If someone could piece together each days vote tallys that might help us. I'd do it myself but I have another meeting coming up.

What exactly are you looking for? Just a listing of the final votes for each day? Or some other configuration of the data? And do you want just the final vote for each person or a record of their vote movements?

[LoneStarGirl]

Originally Posted by RendeR

Well others did this earlier so I will do one as well:

Trusted 100% - None really

Some trust - Kwhit, path12, Cartman

Neutral - LSG, JHandley, Daddytorgo, Telle, Schmidty

Distrust - Gonzo, Neon_Chaos

Everybody seems to have a lot of Neutral this game I have noticed...

I have to admit that I am like Telle, I dont fully believe JHandley is a wolf, but for lack of anybody else to vote for, I choose him. I am more than happy to take my vote off of him if somebody would submit a worthy number 2 candidate to go with Gonzo

[Telle]

How about Schmidty? Don't have a whole lot of reason to suspect him.. but since he's been relatively quiet there also isn't a whole lot to defend him with either.

[LoneStarGirl]

Originally Posted by Telle

How about Schmidty? Don't have a whole lot of reason to suspect him.. but since he's been relatively quiet there also isn't a whole lot to defend him with either.

I really think that is how he plays his game... But I honestly dont know about him. The past games I have played with him he usually pisses somebody off, but this game he hasn't. He is definitly on my neutral list

[Telle]

Well we could always go back to RendeR (sorry honey! )

[KWhit]

Here's the vote count for today:

3 Gonzo - cartman (1333), DaddyTorgo (1334), Render (1339)
1 JHandley - Lonestargirl (1336)
1 Lonestargirl - Neon Chaos (1329)

[LoneStarGirl]

I think because nobody has a good feel on anybody in this game, we need to get a runoff of two people, ANY two people at this point in the game. I feel more strongly that Neon and Cartman are villagers than anybody else. So I would prefer the votes tonight to go anywhere but there. But at this point I am willing to go for anybody else.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Telle

Well we could always go back to RendeR (sorry honey! )

if you get RendeR killed does he get sweet-sweet loving in return?

[KWhit]

VOTE SCHMIDTY

He isn't giving us anything to go on at this point - good or bad. I don't have a good read on him, so he's as good a choice as any.

[Telle]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

if you get RendeR killed does he get sweet-sweet loving in return?

Oh he can have that anyways

[KWhit]

3 Gonzo - cartman (1333), DaddyTorgo (1334), Render (1339)
1 JHandley - Lonestargirl (1336)
1 Lonestargirl - Neon Chaos (1329)
1 Schmidty - KWhit (1415)

[JHandley]

RendeR I semi-trust because his voting history and thought process has been so sporatic. It just feels like he's just as lost as I am.

Gonzo gets looks because he just seems to rub people the wrong way. Not a bad way, just a weird way.

Cartman I trust because if the seer had picked him as a wolf, I think there's a way to get someone that much utr on the ballot more often.

Path's push for reveals could be taken as a way to get reveals and use Tangle's logic since Tangle is known good.

DT is neutral. I think he put me on the ballot simply to get a second person up there and that's a strategy I can understand.

Neon has the vote on CR on his side, but Tangle brought up very good points on him yesterday, Neon put a push on Tangle yesterday. However, that works both ways. Would the wolves kill Tangle and leave Neon in such a bad position?

KWhit has had a reason and logic that I've followed each time.

LSG, Telle and Schmidty I can make nothing of.

There's no one that I can build a strong case against. Wish I had more.

[Telle]

I'll go along with voting for Schmidty. I feel more comfortable with that than voting for JHandley.

VOTE SCHMIDTY

[JHandley]

Using LSG's logic and baring any further information, I'm willing to put Schmidty up for debate.

VOTE SCHMIDTY

[JHandley]

3 Gonzo - cartman (1333), DaddyTorgo (1334), Render (1339)
3 Schmidty - KWhit (1415), Telle (1419), JHandley (1420)
1 JHandley - Lonestargirl (1336)
1 Lonestargirl - Neon Chaos (1329)


Quickly this changed.

[DaddyTorgo]

there's 11 of us alive right? so that means 3 left to vote still...plus the potential moves by LSG & Neon

i should be around at deadline to make sure there's no funny business

[LoneStarGirl]

unvote Jhandley

I hate this game so far. I honestly don't know what to do and who to vote for, gonzo or schmidty.... I guess I will wait till both come on later to defend themselves. I know schmidty works nights so he wont be on till later though

[KWhit]

3 Gonzo - cartman (1333), DaddyTorgo (1334), Render (1339)
3 Schmidty - KWhit (1415), Telle (1419), JHandley (1420)
1 Lonestargirl - Neon Chaos (1329)

[LoneStarGirl]

1. JHandley - I don't know him at all, but he has had solid points
2. path12 - Usual path self, but is known to play a GREAT wolf, somebody to look at
3. LoneStarGirl
6. Telle - Much quieter this game, nobody has really cast any suspicion on her
7. DaddyTorgo - Seems to be riding some coattails this game, usually more vocal
8. RendeR - Hard to read him, has been suspicious all game
10. cartman - One that most people trusts, gone unnoticed
11. Schmidty - Hasn't contributed much, but hasn't acted differently than any other game
15. KWhit - Has voting on his side
16. Gonzo - He bothers me
17. Neon Chaos - The Barkeep/Neon runoff keeps nagging at me, I kind of want to go back and look at him again, but most people seem to trust him more than others

[KWhit]

Anybody have a voting history compiled? I'd love to see it if you do.

[Telle]

Originally Posted by KWhit

Anybody have a voting history compiled? I'd love to see it if you do.

I have all the data.. what kind of configuration of it would you like?

[Telle]

You know.. what I REALLY need is an online-accessible database capable of producing ad-hoc reports. Anybody know of one that's free to use, lemme know

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Telle

I have all the data.. what kind of configuration of it would you like?

Whatever's easiest, but something like the daily vote(s) by person in the order they cast it.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Telle

You know.. what I REALLY need is an online-accessible database capable of producing ad-hoc reports. Anybody know of one that's free to use, lemme know

Not sure about the reports part of it, but have you tried Google Spreadsheets?

[Telle]

Originally Posted by KWhit

Not sure about the reports part of it, but have you tried Google Spreadsheets?

That's what I'm currently using. I was just thinking that a database would be so much better because I could then have it spit the data out in any format that I want. You wanna know how many times the people with the top number of total votes changed their votes to someone whose name contains a "t" on day two? Quick query and there ya go

[Telle]

Voting history by person. Final vote per day in bold. Unvotes noted when a new vote does not replace the old vote in the same post. Results as of post #1431.

cartman - Jonathon Ezerick (96), Neon Chaos (402), Alan T (554), unvote Alan T (679), Barkeep49 (681), Chief Rum (794), Antmeister (977), Oliegirl (1205), Gonzo (1333)

JHandley - Telle (88), Antmeister (184), Neon Chaos (388), Tanglewood (582), RendeR (901), unvote RendeR (942), Antmeister (973), Oliegirl (1148), Neon Chaos (1247), Schmidty (1421)

path12 - NO LYNCH (111), RendeR (282), Tanglewood (578), Alan T (611), unvote Alan T (665), Tanglewood #587, Chief Rum #758, RendeR #885, unvote RendeR #972, Tanglewood #981, Antmeister #1088, Oliegirl #1189, Tanglewood #1239

LoneStarGirl - Tanglewood #146, Barkeep49 #425, Tanglewood #732, Gonzo #951, RendeR #1197, JHandley #1336, unvote JHandley #1428

DaddyTorgo - NO LYNCH #198, Barkeep49 #405, RendeR #576, unvote RendeR #594, Neon Chaos #604, Tanglewood #719, Chief Rum #759, RendeR #882, unvote RendeR #922, unvote cartman #1002, Tanglewood #1045, Oliegirl #1140, unvote Oliegirl #1190, RendeR #1194, unvote RendeR #1221, Neon Chaos #1240, Tanglewood #1260, Gonzo #1334

Ok, I gotta leave work shortly so I'm not going to be able to finish my copy-pasting right now... still have RendeR, Schmidty, KWhit, Gonzo, and Neon Chaos to go. Oh, and I haven't been keeping record of my own votes.. so if anybody wants to go back and look through, feel free!

[Telle]

Oh and I did notice that for DaddyTorgo I have "unvote RendeR #922" and then "unvote cartman #1002".. so I must have missed a vote for cartman inbetween them.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by KWhit

VOTE SCHMIDTY

He isn't giving us anything to go on at this point - good or bad. I don't have a good read on him, so he's as good a choice as any.

Just woke up.

How am I supposed to defend myself from basically nothing? My voting record isn't any worse than a lot of you guys, and although I've been busy and am on a wierd schedule, I don't think it's fair to single me out as bad.

Like I said yesterday, I'm a villager. Yes, that's what everyone says, but it's true and I don't know what else to say. I'd defend myself more specifically, but it seems like you wolves....er guys, are singling me out for basically nothing.

[Schmidty]

One more thing, the 3 people that voted for me, are voting for me over Gonzo even though I've done nothing wolfish, like he did with trying to get Alan killed after his reveal. In fact, I was one of the ones that was against voting for Alan and BK when they were bickering. Look it up.

[LoneStarGirl]

Originally Posted by Telle

Voting history by person. Final vote per day in bold. Unvotes noted when a new vote does not replace the old vote in the same post. Results as of post #1431.

cartman - Jonathon Ezerick (96), Neon Chaos (402), Alan T (554), unvote Alan T (679), Barkeep49 (681), Chief Rum (794), Antmeister (977), Oliegirl (1205), Gonzo (1333)

JHandley - Telle (88), Antmeister (184), Neon Chaos (388), Tanglewood (582), RendeR (901), unvote RendeR (942), Antmeister (973), Oliegirl (1148), Neon Chaos (1247), Schmidty (1421)

path12 - NO LYNCH (111), RendeR (282), Tanglewood (578), Alan T (611), unvote Alan T (665), Tanglewood #587, Chief Rum #758, RendeR #885, unvote RendeR #972, Tanglewood #981, Antmeister #1088, Oliegirl #1189, Tanglewood #1239

LoneStarGirl - Tanglewood #146, Barkeep49 #425, Tanglewood #732, Gonzo #951, RendeR #1197, JHandley #1336, unvote JHandley #1428

DaddyTorgo - NO LYNCH #198, Barkeep49 #405, RendeR #576, unvote RendeR #594, Neon Chaos #604, Tanglewood #719, Chief Rum #759, RendeR #882, unvote RendeR #922, unvote cartman #1002, Tanglewood #1045, Oliegirl #1140, unvote Oliegirl #1190, RendeR #1194, unvote RendeR #1221, Neon Chaos #1240, Tanglewood #1260, Gonzo #1334

Ok, I gotta leave work shortly so I'm not going to be able to finish my copy-pasting right now... still have RendeR, Schmidty, KWhit, Gonzo, and Neon Chaos to go. Oh, and I haven't been keeping record of my own votes.. so if anybody wants to go back and look through, feel free!

Okay, what I See here... Daddy you sure have second guessed yourself a lot this game. And from what I know of you, you are very sure of yourself and what you believe. I am worried about you being a wolf right now.

Path you sure did push towards Tanglewood A LOT and he turned up good, and you voted no lynch (which I hate) you are known to be a GREAT wolf and that is something that keeps bothering me, you haven't been analyzed that much this game at all, if people would follow me I would be more than willing to put pressure on you.

JHandley pushed hard for Antmeister who ended up good and has voted Neon Chaos twice... and I belive most people feel Neon is on the almost trusted side of the game.

And everybody trusts Cartman because of Alant

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

Okay, what I See here... Daddy you sure have second guessed yourself a lot this game. And from what I know of you, you are very sure of yourself and what you believe. I am worried about you being a wolf right now.

Path you sure did push towards Tanglewood A LOT and he turned up good, and you voted no lynch (which I hate) you are known to be a GREAT wolf and that is something that keeps bothering me, you haven't been analyzed that much this game at all, if people would follow me I would be more than willing to put pressure on you.

JHandley pushed hard for Antmeister who ended up good and has voted Neon Chaos twice... and I belive most people feel Neon is on the almost trusted side of the game.

And everybody trusts Cartman because of Alant

yeah. i really have second-guessed myself a ton. not exactly sure why

[JHandley]

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

JHandley pushed hard for Antmeister who ended up good and has voted Neon Chaos twice... and I belive most people feel Neon is on the almost trusted side of the game.

Check when I voted for them. I voted for Ant and Neon based on inactivity.

Just yesterday, Tangle was pushing hard for Neon, so to say he's been completely cleared is a bit of a stretch.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by JHandley

Check when I voted for them. I voted for Ant and Neon based on inactivity.

Just yesterday, Tangle was pushing hard for Neon, so to say he's been completely cleared is a bit of a stretch.

No response to my last two posts?

Avoiding something?

[Schmidty]

Alright, I need to go eat and run errands. I'll be in and out over the next few hours.

[JHandley]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

One more thing, the 3 people that voted for me, are voting for me over Gonzo even though I've done nothing wolfish, like he did with trying to get Alan killed after his reveal. In fact, I was one of the ones that was against voting for Alan and BK when they were bickering. Look it up.

He had one vote on Alan after the reveal and I think that had more to do with him having blinders on for his first instinct. Wow, that sounds vaguely similar to something I heard in this thread once before? In fact, I think someone who looks a lot like me said it. Look it up.

[LoneStarGirl]

I dont know guys, I really dont have much of a read on Schmidty, I think he might be too busy to be a wolf right now, and I think he is too smart to make some of the mistakes these wolves had made. After evaluating Telle's vote records I would love to get the ball rolling on Daddy Torgo, I am going to put a vote out for now, and if it comes down to it, I will change my vote to one of the conttenders in a couple of hours

vote daddy torgo

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by JHandley

He had one vote on Alan after the reveal and I think that had more to do with him having blinders on for his first instinct. Wow, that sounds vaguely similar to something I heard in this thread once before? In fact, I think someone who looks a lot like me said it. Look it up.

You still haven't given any good reason to vote for me.

[JHandley]

How about I call it a gut feeling?

[path12]

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

and I think he is too smart to make some of the mistakes these wolves had made.

Based on how clueless we all seem to be right now, I'd offer that the wolves haven't made many mistakes.

[Gonzo]

VOTE KWHIT

I know I'm going to be lynched for this, and it would probably make better sense voting for Schmidty to save my own skin, but there's something about KWhit that just seems off. Same with Render and Lonestargirl, but that might have been because they've voted for me.

[LoneStarGirl]

That is one thing I have noticed about this game, we are all going on gut feelings. And where has that gotten us? Nowhere. It is like we have 2-3 players saying I am voting for so and so on gut feelings and people on jumping aboard on the vote. I dont like that, we haven't had many games like this and it bothers me. Gut feeling is not a good reason to vote for somebody on day 6

[LoneStarGirl]

Originally Posted by Gonzo

VOTE KWHIT

I know I'm going to be lynched for this, and it would probably make better sense voting for Schmidty to save my own skin, but there's something about KWhit that just seems off. Same with Render and Lonestargirl, but that might have been because they've voted for me.

Well if nobody wants to vote for Daddy I will be more than willing to vote for Kwhit instead of of Gonzo or Schmidty.

[LoneStarGirl]

And even though most of us are assuming Cartman is good, I wish he would contribute more... he only has 32 posts on Day 6

[DaddyTorgo]

i'm a villegar. no reason to vote 4 me.