TCY Groupthink - North Carolina State Wolfpack

[CraigSca]

Miami runs a REVERSE on 2nd and 9 - Freshman Ian Lynwood and Herman Sanderson combine to push Henry OUT OF BOUNDS - one yard loss.

3rd and 10, 34 seconds left.

[CraigSca]

Big, big play here. Does Miami risk it and go for the throat by attempting a pass (and perhaps give us another opportunity to stop the clock without using a timeout)? Or...do they play conservative and run?

Fortunately for them....if they punt on 4th, we're guaranteed pretty awful field position.

3rd and 10 at our 47....

[CraigSca]

They play conservative - Hoover runs offtackle and loses 2 yards. Leslie Davis and Neal Hollins combine for the stop.

NC STATE timeout (we have one left).

4th and 12 at our 49, 26 seconds left.

[CraigSca]

29 yard punt that rolls out of bounds.

NC State ball, 1st and 10 at our own 20 yard line. 17 seconds left in the game.

[CraigSca]

1st and 10 from our 20...

Pass over the middle is complete to Kenneth Wertz for 17 yards. NC State calls time out. 1st and 10 from our own 37, only 7 seconds left . Damn, I'd like to have that stupid draw play back on our last drive.

[CraigSca]

Probably the last play of the game...

Amaya fades back and throws to Wertz, but it's defended easily by Miami's Murray. Miami is in a 3-deep nickel package.

We have 2 seconds left. Last play of the game, coming up.

[CraigSca]

Btw - Amaya is 24 of 39 for 317 yards.

Ok...please fire me. I call a draw play.

Amaya gains 5 yards and the game is over.

Final Score: Miami 34, NC State 31

[CraigSca]

6 Emails:

RB Mario Burgess has decided to attend North Carolina.
FB Perry Hughes has decided to attend Colorado State.
T Bruce Middleton has decided to attend Wake Forest.
OLB David Palma has accepted our scholarship offer.
OLB Arnie Higbee has decided to attend West Virginia.
CB Lawrence Rasmussen has decided to attend Bowling Green.

Ugh...bad day all around.

[CraigSca]

Box Score: Miami of Florida at North Carolina State
Raleigh, NC.

Week 9, 2004

Attendance: 53,800 (53,800).


Weather: 59 degrees, fair.

1Q: 14:53 MIAF - Albert Bertrand 102 kickoff return.
1Q: 14:53 MIAF - Toby Arnold extra point.
1Q: 08:08 MIAF - Toby Arnold 37 field goal.
1Q: 00:59 MIAF - Herman Kenny 4 pass from Tracy Summers.
1Q: 00:59 MIAF - Toby Arnold extra point.
2Q: 12:46 NCST - Jack Mackie 10 pass from Justin Amaya.
2Q: 12:46 NCST - Vincent Allen extra point.
2Q: 07:30 NCST - Vincent Allen 29 field goal.
2Q: 00:07 MIAF - Toby Arnold 21 field goal.
3Q: 13:15 MIAF - Austin Leopold 2 pass from Tracy Summers.
3Q: 13:15 MIAF - Toby Arnold extra point.
3Q: 02:59 NCST - Orlando Macri 9 run.
3Q: 02:59 NCST - Vincent Allen extra point.
4Q: 12:42 MIAF - Curtis Henry 14 fumble return.
4Q: 12:42 MIAF - Toby Arnold extra point.
4Q: 06:42 NCST - Vincent Allen 29 field goal.
4Q: 03:23 NCST - Vincent Allen 42 field goal.
4Q: 01:01 NCST - Kenneth Wertz 15 pass from Justin Amaya.
4Q: 01:01 NCST - Gino Linquist run for conversion.

Game MVP: MIAF 38 Seth Hoover

Miami of Florida	17	3	7	7	-	34
North Carolina State	0	10	7	14	-	31

Team Statistics		MIAF		NCST

First Downs		20		21

Total Rushes		31		28
Net Rushing Yards		100		69
Yards Per Carry		3.2		2.4
Rushing Yards		117		94
Tckld Loss/Yards		7-11		6-14
Sacked/Yards Lost		1-6		2-11

Pass Attempts		36		39
Completions		18		24
Passing Yards		194		317
Yards Per Attempt		5.3		8.1
Interceptions		0		1
Fumbles/Lost		1/0		0/0

Total Plays		67		67
Total Yards		294		386
Yards Per Play		4.3		5.7

3rd Down Plays		7/16		3/12

Penalties		6		9
Penalty Yards		45		41

Avg. Drive Start		OWN 31		OWN 36
Time Of Possession		29:08		30:52

North Carolina State Individual Statistics

Rushing		Att	Yards	Avg	Long	TD	Stufd	Sackd
46 Macri		15	65	4.3	16	1	4	0
17 Amaya		8	4	0.5	5	0	1	2
21 Linquist		5	0	0.0	2	0	3	0

Passing		Att	Comp	Yards	Yd/Att	Long	TD	Int
17 Amaya		39	24	317	8.1	52	2	1

Receiving		Catch	Yards	Avg	YAC	Long	TD
46 Macri		7	49	7.0	49	12	0
80 Clark		6	93	15.5	15	31	0
87 Wertz		5	70	14.0	31	19	1
94 Mackie		3	27	9.0	14	10	1
6 Brodie		3	78	26.0	25	52	0

Punt Returns		Att	Yards	Avg	TD
87 Wertz		2	52	26.0	0
80 Clark		1	2	2.0	0

Kick Returns		Att	Yards	Avg	TD
6 Brodie		3	89	29.6	0
47 Spaulding		3	73	24.3	0

Punting		Punts	Yards	Avg	Long	In20
11 McCarthy		4	141	35.2	44	1

Kicking		FG	FGA	Long	PAT	Att
7 Allen		3	3	42	2	2

Defense		Tackle	Assist	Sack	Int	IntYds	IntTD
98 Sanderson		10	5	0.0	0	0	0
27 Brooks		9	1	0.0	0	0	0
73 Schmaltz		6	1	0.5	0	0	0
58 Durham		4	3	0.0	0	0	0
30 Flynn		3	3	0.0	0	0	0
47 Spaulding		3	1	0.0	0	0	0
43 Hollins		2	2	0.0	0	0	0
97 Branch		2	0	0.0	0	0	0
91 Finley		1	1	0.0	0	0	0
31 Westbrook		1	1	0.0	0	0	0
40 Montgomery		1	1	0.0	0	0	0
21 Linquist		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
48 Dodge		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
94 Mackie		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
80 Clark		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
79 Matthews		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
71 Davis		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
96 Lynnwood		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
55 Roberts		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
26 Cortez		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
54 Finch		0	1	0.5	0	0	0
36 McKenzie		0	1	0.0	0	0	0

Miscellaneous		Fumb	FForc	Recov	MiscTD	KeyRBlk	SckAlwd
77 Lentzner		0	0	0	0	3	2
82 Sweeney		0	0	0	0	1	0
50 Bednarsh		0	0	0	0	1	0
62 Wayne		0	0	0	0	1	0
98 Sanderson		0	1	0	0	0	0

Player		Stokes Awarded
46 Orlando Macri		8
17 Justin Amaya		2
6 Trent Brodie		2
7 Vincent Allen		2
98 Herman Sanderson		2
94 Jack Mackie		1
87 Kenneth Wertz		1
80 Donald Clark		1
77 Newt Lentzner		1
54 Blaine Finch		1
96 Ian Lynnwood		1
97 Myron Branch		1
43 Neal Hollins		1
55 Lorenzo Roberts		1
59 Thurman Arnswaldt		1
47 Ralph Spaulding		1
27 O.J. Brooks		1

[Raven Hawk]

Ugh.

[CraigSca]

New Injuries:

FB Pete Dodge, probable, turf toe
LB Thurman Arnswaldt, out, broken ankle, 10 weeks

[Raven Hawk]

It's heart breaking, but considering that we stuck with the #2 team in the nation for 4 quarters, I think that we did pretty good . . .

[CraigSca]

I agree - I really felt that if we had more time, it was just a matter of time before we beat them. We just got down into too far of a hole (17-0) and that interception leading off the 2nd half killed us as well.

Other than that...I almost think we took it to 'em.

Our next game is scheduled for Tuesday at #24 Clemson. I'll be out of town, so we'll have to play it on Wednesday, if that's ok.

[CraigSca]

New files are available.

[MikeVick7]

Boy...you sure know how to "draw" a game description out....

Ok that was really bad.

That was easily our most exciting game of the year. We have nothing to hang our heads about.

[vex]

Ack, the recruiting is REALLY depressing for me.

[MikeVick7]

Ok...is the release of the updated FOF going to take anyone else away from this groupthink?

[vex]

Definitely not me.

[Raven Hawk]

No, I'm only involved in one league and intend to keep it that way. It won't make my time any more or less scarce.

[CraigSca]

I'm here for the duration. As long as you guys show interest, I'm all over this. These last two games have been a blast.

[vex]

Originally Posted by MikeVick7

Ok...is the release of the updated FOF going to take anyone else away from this groupthink?

I said it wouldn't, but seems I was wrong. I'll get back though, just been imersing myself in FOF.

[QuikSand]

I'm still following... but my role isn't all that important.


Maybe it's time for some more thought on recruiting:

The next week we ought to learn a lot - week 10 always seems to be important.

It might be a good time to take a look at any quality player at any position who is not visiting a school yet - I have had success in weeks 6-10 or so trying to double back and target that kind of guy -- if they don't have any offers, get in, visit and call, and make an offer right away. (QB especially)

[vex]

Offensive Recruiting Strategy - Week 10


Current Recruits


QB

***Committed - Ty Chavez QB (62+) (West Chester (East), PN)


RB

None


FB

None


TE

***Committed - Corey Adams TE (74) (Lake Waccamaw(E. Columbus), N.C.)



WR

None




Center


None



OG

J.T. Torres G (78+) - Phone (We entered this one late, but he's already visiting; would be a real nice grab)

Mack Moorthy G (72-) - Phone (He's visiting, he favors distance(We're 7 miles away), and he has a HS teammate on our roster. I'd say he's in the bag)

Shane Sanderson G (67-) - Phone (He's visiting and I believe we'll get a commitment in a week or two)


OT

***Committed - Bo Blackwell T (76+) (Lumberton, N.C.)




New Recruits

Joe West QB (65) - Visit, then Req. Visit, and Offer

Winfred Sharper FB (57) - Phone, then Req. Visit, and Offer

J.T. Lincoln WR (67) - Visit, then Req. Visit, and Offer

Richie Harmon C (70) - Visit, then Req. Visit, and Offer

[vex]

Defensive Recruiting Strategy - Week 10

Current Recruits


DE

***COMMITTED - J.J. Heath DE (63++) (Atlantic City, New Jersey)


DT

***COMMITTED - Casey Batista DT (68++) (Toms River (East), New Jersey)

Gino Powell DT (67++) - Phone (UCLA just had to enter the mix)

Terrell Morris DT (57++) - None (He's only visiting us, I see a commit this week)

Leonard Compton DT (70-) - None (He's visiting, but we don't really care. No strippers for him)



ILB

None



OLB

***COMMITTED - David Palma OLB (53+) - (Barre (Quabbin Reg.), Massachusetts)

Rod Rice OLB (91--) - Phone (My money is on Virginia here)



CB

Wade Copperfield CB (72+) - None (Oh great, he favors prestige and Miami just offered...next)

Brenden Young CB (63+) - Phone (I dn't have a clue on this guy)


Safety

Daniel McKnight S (57) - Phone, Req. Visit, & Offer


New Recruits

Britt Godfrey ILB (CA) - Phone, Req. Visit, & Offer

Riddick Perry OLB (FL) - Visit, Req. Visit, & Offer if BTS

Ellis Compton S (NC) - Visit, Req. Visit, & Offer if BTS

Zack Dutton CB (FL) - Visit, Req. Visit, & Offer if BTS

Ian Boone OLB (LA) - Phone

[vex]

Visit in this order


J.T. Lincoln WR
Richie Harmon C
Ellis Compton S
Zack Dutton CB
Riddick Perry OLB
Joe West QB

[Raven Hawk]

Offensive Starters for Clemson Game:

  Starter PT
QB  
1 Amaya 7
2 Bush 
3 Burgess 
  
RB  
1 Macri 6
2 Linquist 
3 Ramirez 
3rd Macri 
  
FB  
1 Sweeney 5
2 Hickman 
3 Sheldon 
  
TE  
1 Mackie 7
2 Gilman 
3 Rivers 
  
WR  
FL Brodie 5
SE Clark 6
3 Wertz 
4 Forbes 
5 Harmon 
  
T  
LT Lentzner 8
RT Miller 5
3 Frederick 
4 Morton 
  
G  
LG Matthews 7
RG Wayne 7
3 Buckner 
4 Everitt 
  
C  
1 Bednarsh 8
2 Koester 
  
P  
1 McCarthy N/A
  
K  
1 Allen N/A
  
KO  
1 Allen N/A
  
PR  
1 Wertz N/A
2 Clark 
  
KR  
1 Spaulding N/A
2 Brodie 
  
Injured Players?  45
Starters on ST?  40

[Raven Hawk]

Offensive Game Plan for Clemson:

Percentage by Down and Distance
	1-2	3-7	8-10	11+
1st	80	70	60	50
2nd	80	70	60	50
3rd	80	20	0	0
4th	80	0	0	0
Go For it on 4th?		60
Run inside the 20?		65
Direction			Pass
LE	4		Screen	18
LT	10		1-10	38
LG	15		11-20	24
C	22		21-30	15
RG	25		31+	5
RT	16
RE	8
Finesse Running Percentage
	1-2	3-7	8-10	11+
1st	5	20	10	15
2nd	15	10	10	15
3rd	5	15	0	0
4th	0	0	0	0
Option Plays		0
RB	95
FB	5
QB	0
Wing	0

[CraigSca]

Sweet guys, thanks. In the near future I'm going to be building an official homepage for the Groupthink. Hopefully, it'll make it a little more fun for everyone, and there will be a lot less file swappage if you guys can just go to the site for updates.

[MikeVick7]

Hey Craig...is the sim still set for tomorrow? I'll be posting the defensive gameplan tonight at some point.

[vex]

I thought we simmed Monday and Thursday?

[Raven Hawk]

Originally Posted by vexroid

I thought we simmed Monday and Thursday?

Craig mentioned that this week would be delayed for some reason. I forget what. But sims will usually be run on Monday and Thursday.

[MikeVick7]

Defensive gameplan for Clemson.

We gladly welcome back Neal Hollins to the lineup.

Defensive Gameplan vs Clemson

Primary Formation: 3-4

Depth Chart

Defensive Line - (Playing Time)
LE - Blaine Finch (3)
RE - CJ Schmaltz (6)
DE3 - Timothy Carter
DE4 - Mario Beethoven

NT - David Finley (5)
DT2 - Myron Branch (3)
DT3 - Ian Lynnwood
DT4 - Harold Alston

Linebackers
WILB - Neal Hollins (7)
SILB - Herman Sanderson (6)
ILB3 - Ethan Alexander
ILB4 - Marcus Perez

WOLB - Lorenzo Roberts (5)
SOLB - Steve Durham (4)
OLB3 - Leslie Davis
OLB4 - Darryl Staggs

*Orient LB by Weak/Strong

Defensive Backs
CB1 - Ralph Spaulding (5)
CB2 - Henry Westbrook (5)
CB3 - Jorge Montgomery
CB4 - AJ McKenzie
CB5 - Jessie Cortez

FS - Bubba Flynn (7)
SS - OJ Brooks (6)
S3 - Roy Murphy
s4 - Jessie Cortez

Orient CB by placing top CB against top WR
Double Cover top WR - 30
Double Cover 2nd best WR - 30


Run Expectation
First Down  - (84/82/68/51)
Second Down - (84/75/54/47)
Third Down  - (85/35/25/30)
Fourth Down - (87/34/20/32)

Tendencies
Goal Line - 50
Nickel Package - 50
Tendency to blitz - 60
Dime Package - 50
Prevent Package - 30
Blitz multiple players - 60

Blitz percentage by position
WOLB - 15
WILB - 15
SILB - 30
SOLB - 15
CB1 - 0
CB2 - 0
SS - 20
FS - 5

Pass Coverage in normal situations
Man to Man - 45
Bump & Run - 25
2-Deep Zone - 10
3-Deep Zone - 10
4-Deep Zone - 10

[vex]

Originally Posted by Raven Hawk

Craig mentioned that this week would be delayed for some reason. I forget what. But sims will usually be run on Monday and Thursday.

Thanks, I didn't catch that, I thought you two were just being slackers with me

[CraigSca]

Yes - sim was pushed back because i was out of town on Monday and Tuesday. I have a DR. appt. at 2pm today...so the game probably will not have as much detail posted (here's hoping that it's not a barn-burner like last week). So we dont lose the schedule of 2 games a week, I plan on simming the next week on Friday and then go back to our Monday-Thurs. schedule.

[CraigSca]

Players Who No Longer will Benefit from Additional Contact

G Mack Moorthy
G Shane Sanderson

New Recruits

WR J.T. Lincoln - better than scouted
C Richie Harmon - better than scouted
S Ellis Compton - better than scouted
CB Zack Dutton - better than scouted
OLB Riddick Perry - better than scouted
QB Joe West
OLB Ian Brown

[CraigSca]

North Carolina State (4-3) at #24 Clemson (5-2) (-10), TV5

Weather: 65 degrees, Sunny

N.C. State wins the toss and elects to receive.

Kickoff is a touchback, N.C. State begins on their own 20.

1st and 10 at the 20. On first down Amaya throws in the flat to Macri for a 7 yard gain. 2nd and 3. Macri gets the carry on 2nd down and gains 2 (Nathan Matthews was knocked down by the Clemson defender). 3rd and 1. Macri runs off right tackle and gets a KRB by TE Jack Mackie, pickup of 5. 1st and 10 at our own 34.

(time to run to the doctor - be back soon)

[CraigSca]

We pound the ball inside, but eventually the drive stops at our own 47. Time to punt. Nice punt from McCarthy pins Clemson down to their own 9.

3 and out for Clemson, highlighted by a delay of game penalty by Clemson and a C.J. Schmaltz QB hurry on 3rd and long.

Horrible punt by Clemson is returned to the 34 by Kenneth Wertz. Great field position!

[CraigSca]

A run by Macri (5 carries for 23 yards) and a couple of nice passes gives us a 1st and goal at the 4. However, we're then hurt by a poor run and a sack. Our 3rd and long to Brodie fails, 4th and goal at the 15. Allen gives us a 3-0 lead via a 32 yard FG.

N.C. State 3, Clemson 0 - 4:26 left in the 1st.

[CraigSca]

Getting some database errors as I post these...

Clemson's ensuing drive is going nowhere, until they get lucky on back to back passes of 49 and 19 yards down to our 2. Money completes the pass to Swearingen for the 2 yard TD pass on the next play.

Clemson 7, N.C. State 3 - 1:58 left in the quarter

We answer right back after the touchback on the kickoff. Amaya finds Trent Brodie open on the fly pattern and connects for 32 yards. Clemson territory. Linquist gets 10 yards on a pass, but then the drive stalls at the Clemson 35. I'm also getting some messages about our offensive line getting uprooted - this doesn't bode well for us. We go for it on 4th and 7 and Amaya and Wertz combine for the first down via a 10 yard pass. 1st and 10 at the 25. 5 plays later, we're in the end zone - Amaya to Brodie for the 3 yard TD pass! Macri has 21 yards on 9 carries (he's starting to get stuffed at the line) and Amaya has been forced to scramble a lot. My impression is that we're not winning the trench war, but we're riding the hot arm of Amaya as well as a talented group of receivers.

N.C. State 10, Clemson 7, 12:08 left in the half.

[CraigSca]

Highlights now...as we're way behind schedule...

Clemson starts their next drive and they go deep on first down, but it's intercepted. On the ensuing drive, we move the ball a little until Justin Amaya SCRAMBLES for a 45 yard gain to the Clemson 30 The drive ends in yet another Trent Brodie TD reception, this time 8 yards. 9 plays, 81 yards, 4:47 off the clock.

NC State 17, Clemson 7 - 6:40 left in the half

[CraigSca]

Clemson's drive gets stopped at their own 34...an okay punt of 35 yards paired with a nice return of 15 yards by Kenneth Wertz gives us the ball at our own 46 with 3:15 left in the half.

Our drives goes nowhere, and we head into the half leading, 17-7.

First Downs: NC State 13, Clemson 4
Rushing: NC State 82, Clemson 25
Passing: NC State 141, Clemson 70

[CraigSca]

Clemson begins the 3rd quarter with the ball. Pinned, they need to throw on a 3rd and long - the pass is picked off by Ralph Spaulding and gives us the ball at the Clemson 30.

Unfortunately, we're not able to gain a yard and our 4th down attempt at a first down is rebuffed. Ball turned over on downs....

Later in the 3rd, another Clemson turnover -- we convert it into a FG for a 20-7 lead.

After another failed Clemson possession, we take the ball for 12 plays, 83 yards and 5:33 off the clock and end in a 4 yard TD pass to Jack Mackie.

NC State 27, Clemson 7 - 2:19 left in the 3rd. We've outgained Clemson, 313 to 95.

[CraigSca]

Midway through the 4th, Nate Lentzner incurs a serious injury We still lead, 27-7 - 9:36 left in the game. Amaya is incredible.

[CraigSca]

2 plays later....another Ralph Spaulding interception - NC State ball at their own 46. We've outgained Clemson, 384 to 108.

Ugh....a sack and lost fumble on the next play. Clemson ball at our 41.

[CraigSca]

BTW - the sack was given up by Lentzner's replacement - Hugh Frederick

[CraigSca]

Clemson kicks a harmless FG, cutting our lead to 17. On the next play Donald Clark is injured, but it doesn't appear to be serious - phew!

Another interception by NC State - this one by Jorge Montgomery. NC State ball at their 28 with 4:20 left in the game.

This game is over....another thorough beating...

Final: NC State 27, Clemson 10

[CraigSca]

NC State Players of the Game:

Justin Amaya, 21 for 29, 263 yards, 3 TDs, 0 Int
Donald Clark, 7 receptions, 106 yards

[CraigSca]

New Injuries:

T Newt Lentzner out 8 weeks with Arthroscopic knee surgery.

[CraigSca]

8 Emails:

G J.T. Torres has accepted our scholarship offer.
G Shane Sanderson will attend Wake Forest.
G Mack Moorthy will attend East Carolina (whatever)
OLB Ian Boone will attend Louisiana-Monroe.
CB Brenden Young will attend East Carolina.
CB Wade Copperfield will attend South Carolina.
CB Zack Dutton will attend Florida State.

This is getting annoying.

[MikeVick7]

Wow...Clemson had better overall talent. I'm giddy about this beating. Nice job all-around guys.