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Old 07-23-2008, 08:11 PM   #551
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And Chubby, make sure you endorse me (if you do actually endorse me, hehe)

I do and already did. I was mulling over ramifications if henry does get voted out but I think it's for the best of the party if I support (since I do in reality 100%, was just figuring out what it would do in game). as the most powerful person in the country I think it would be a waste to not support you. I also hope it swings henry's district to me if in fact he does get sabotaged by the republicans.

I still hold out faith that Lathum will switch back to clap and another one of our Dems will switch onto clap as well.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:13 PM   #552
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maybe I am being thick but with an even number of Dems and Republicans how is it possible to tie the vote?

Because tyrith is still on kwhit

Right now if you are on clap it would be 8 for henry and 7 for clap. We'd need one of KWhit/chesapeake to move to tie and both to get clap back for starting this partisan voting war.

If it's a tie then hopefully I get tiebreak which means henry stays.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:14 PM   #553
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I still hold out faith that Lathum will switch back to clap and another one of our Dems will switch onto clap as well.

Kwhit or Chesapeak would have to switch which I don't see happening. It seems they have an agenda different then ours.

And don't worry about clap, I have a way to deal with im.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:15 PM   #554
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I do and already did. I was mulling over ramifications if henry does get voted out but I think it's for the best of the party if I support (since I do in reality 100%, was just figuring out what it would do in game). as the most powerful person in the country I think it would be a waste to not support you. I also hope it swings henry's district to me if in fact he does get sabotaged by the republicans.

I still hold out faith that Lathum will switch back to clap and another one of our Dems will switch onto clap as well.

I saw it after I said it
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:17 PM   #555
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and all Tyrith has to do is switch back
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:18 PM   #556
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Kwhit or Chesapeak would have to switch which I don't see happening. It seems they have an agenda different then ours.

And don't worry about clap, I have a way to deal with im.

All I'm saying is yes, I understand why you switched to KWhit but that is really tomorrow's battle. By staying off of clap you are giving up on henry tonight and I think we still have a legit chance to save henry tonight. If they want to play the partisan game then we can do. They've admitted it's simply a partisan play and clap has all the votes so I'm trying to save our party member tonight.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:19 PM   #557
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and all Tyrith has to do is switch back

Then make him switch. I'm not one for giving up, I'm just saying at least try to save henry tonight and we as a party will deal with any concerns members have with leadership tomorrow when it will be relevant.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:19 PM   #558
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And now Pass has switched.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:20 PM   #559
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with Pass moving off I believe yuo can tie it with a move back onto clap.

I'd say wait until 9:49pm to move your vote. Force the repubs into a penalty if they want to change at the last minute.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:22 PM   #560
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All I'm saying is yes, I understand why you switched to KWhit but that is really tomorrow's battle. By staying off of clap you are giving up on henry tonight and I think we still have a legit chance to save henry tonight. If they want to play the partisan game then we can do. They've admitted it's simply a partisan play and clap has all the votes so I'm trying to save our party member tonight.

and again, maybe I am being thick but do you really think KWhit or Chesapeak are going to show up and switch back?

we would need one of them to do that to save Henry.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:24 PM   #561
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and again, maybe I am being thick but do you really think KWhit or Chesapeak are going to show up and switch back?

we would need one of them to do that to save Henry.

I think you are anxious to vote how your heart tells you. It however won't help the party tonight.

That being said, with Pass moving you can tie it by going back on clap.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:25 PM   #562
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and tyrith can untie it again...

besides, I think Pass will move back if KWhit doesn't gain support
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:26 PM   #563
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Which is why he said wait until the last minute and let them take the late vote penalty
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:26 PM   #564
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and tyrith can untie it again...

besides, I think Pass will move back if KWhit doesn't gain support


Then wait if you are going to be online anyways.

Move your vote at 9:49pm EST. Force them to take the penalty to ensure they screw us over by getting rid of Henry.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:26 PM   #565
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Like Chubby, I can understand your concern for KWhit and Ches, but it does us no good to vote for them tonight while we still have a shot (long shot or not) at saving Henry. It makes us look weak if we just give up so quickly.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:28 PM   #566
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I wont be online, I am going running right now.

And there is no way they let us tie it up, Henry is gone unless we get KWhit nixed.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:29 PM   #567
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Cronin switched now too.

Something is up...I don't like this.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:30 PM   #568
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I wont be online, I am going running right now.

And there is no way they let us tie it up, Henry is gone unless we get KWhit nixed.


By giving up on henry when there's no chance of enough people being online much less switching to onto KWhit at this point to save henry, i don't see how your vote is any different than KWhit and chesapeake's original votes...
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:30 PM   #569
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Ches has switched now.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:33 PM   #570
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back on clap now that chesapeak switched
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:33 PM   #571
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I think at this point it's tied.

I think their plan is to gun down our top dog. That is something I don't think we should do tonight. I'm all for lathum making his case tomorrow to remove KWhit from power if that is what he thinks he should do.

I think at this point the Republicans are making a 2fer play. Try and get the Dem Leader (KWhit) voted out as wolf and then make sure henry doesn't get reelected.

I have much higher wolf suspicions on people than KWhit/henry/clap. I simply think we need to handle any questions about KWhit in house tomorrow and try and save our most centrist member, Henry, tonight.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:34 PM   #572
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I'm serious about the weather. Fairfax Co. Emergency Management was talking tornadoes.

I voted for Mrs. S. because 1) she has been completely under the radar; and 2) I don't buy that Clap is a wolf.

I should have smelled a GOP trap. Sorry about that.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:35 PM   #573
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No worries, ches - hope all is well for you tonight.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:35 PM   #574
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ok, it's clearly not tied again.

I am staying on clap. I am going to try and convince cronin to not switch back onto henry.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:38 PM   #575
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I'm serious about the weather. Fairfax Co. Emergency Management was talking tornadoes.

I voted for Mrs. S. because 1) she has been completely under the radar; and 2) I don't buy that Clap is a wolf.

I should have smelled a GOP trap. Sorry about that.

I'm not sold on clap as a wolf either but our priority tonight should be saving henry who I'm not sold on as a wolf either.

don't worry about it, I got them to admit it's a pure partisan play so we just need to protect our own tonight and deal with internal issues here tomorrow.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:45 PM   #576
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We need to stall to try and make them switch after the 10 minute deadline, or better yet, not switch and save henry.

tomorrow there's plenty of time in the day to discuss internal questions.
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and now cronin switched back - with no popularity penalty
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:45 PM   #578
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No worries, ches - hope all is well for you tonight.

All is fine, thank you. But there is another nasty stretch of storm that looks to hit in about 90 minutes.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:48 PM   #579
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and now cronin switched back - with no popularity penalty

we still need to try and stall to hopefully keep tyrith from switching.

I honestly don't know the current vote but i think it's either tied, or 1 vote one way or the other.

either way,keeping them from switching helps the party. I believe all dems online have a vote on clap.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:49 PM   #580
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fuck, one minute. Hopefully if tyrith does switch it will be late...
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:50 PM   #581
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Damn, clap JUST missed it.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:50 PM   #582
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fuck clap got his in, hopefully tyrith doesnt...
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:50 PM   #583
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And clap switched to Henry
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This could be good...tied at 8, only one more can switch. And she would get a penalty if she did.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:52 PM   #585
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good, it looks like unless Pass gets back online at worst it's a tie with tyrith taking a penalty.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:53 PM   #586
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This could be good...tied at 8, only one more can switch. And she would get a penalty if she did.


nope, clap has 8 to henry's 7. if tyrith switches it's tied but he takes a penalty.

pass and kwhit would be on other candidates and there's a tie
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:55 PM   #587
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damn, looks like tyrith had already switched.

regardless, right now it's tied
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In the future, leave them in the dark about our availability unless it will help keep our team member not get voted off.
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KWhit saves it.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:59 PM   #590
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I think tomorrow will be KWhit vs Lathum but we can leave that for tomorrow.

I think the party as a whole really stepped up tonight and while I'm pretty sure there's wolves amongst us, everybody still did the right thing in the end for the party,
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Kwhit to save teh day!
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GOP is going to string Mrs. S up for that one
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Old 07-23-2008, 09:01 PM   #593
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Kwhit to save teh day!

I think that this helps you a lot in the presidential election.

The repubs get burned by making this a partisan vote as they should as I don't think we were ever prepared to go after a repub simply because of their party status.
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Old 07-23-2008, 09:02 PM   #594
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I just read this thread. People really think I'm a wolf?

Uh, whatever.
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I just read this thread. People really think I'm a wolf?

Uh, whatever.

Read: Lathum
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Old 07-23-2008, 09:03 PM   #597
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Old 07-23-2008, 09:03 PM   #598
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I voted for Mrs. S because I didn't want this to turn into partisan bullshit. We have to work together to get the wolves.
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Old 07-23-2008, 09:05 PM   #599
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going to bed, will check in before i head to work in the morning.

working 6am-4pm tomorrow.If I can still propose my own bill tomorrow I will need suggestions again. You guys did a great job of it today, I thank you for that.
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Well we knew it would end up partisan, hopefully that stops once we get some roles.
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