Werewolf LXXVI - The Werewolf Draft! Game over, see last pages for details

[PackerFanatic]

Originally Posted by Telle

Eh.. I should have qualified that with saying something about how I was reserving me doubts about Lathum. Basically it comes down to
"doubt of Barkeep" > ("doubt of lathum" - "potentiality for Lathum being a seer")

Is this included in the WW Math Book?

[Alan T]

I just flat out don't think Eaglefan is a wolf. Just a gut feeling based on nothing else at all personally if it means much. I think there is a chance BK might be or might not be, but wasn't really enough for me to lead the charge on him today. Seems like plenty of other people felt the need to pick up that banner though.

[st.cronin]

6 - Barkeep49 - Lathum (1052), PackerFanatic (1068), oliegirl (1072), mccollins (1079), Telle (1080), Mrs. Schmidty (1118)
4 - EagleFan - Chief Rum (1000), SnDvls (1065), claphamsa (1084), Passacaglia (1195)
3 - Lathum - Danny (1015), Barkeep49 (1040), DaddyTorgo (1089)
3 - Chief Rum - LoneStarGirl (939), RendeR (1038), saldana (1175)
1 - oliegirl - EagleFan (943)
1 - saldana - Alan T (1044)

no vote: Schmidty, GoldenEagle

[Telle]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

Is this included in the WW Math Book?

Hey, this kind of stuff and spreadsheets (and databases.. need to create one for WW sometime) is what you get from a data geek

[PackerFanatic]

Originally Posted by Telle

Hey, this kind of stuff and spreadsheets (and databases.. need to create one for WW sometime) is what you get from a data geek

Gotta love data geeks!

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

How is it worthless? If I vote for Player X today and he is a wolf, but not the cunning wolf, he can still kill me down the road. Say we get lucky and lynch the cunning wolf today. If I vote for a random player like clap, then I would make myself an easy kill tonight.

Sounds like a good plan. So lets have all of the villagers vote me so they stay safe...



Seriously.. the point of the lynch vote is to put your vote somewhere that you feel is the best chance to get a wolf.. The rest of the village relies on that voting history later down the road. If you or anyone else are throwing votes on me for the sole purpose of one thing that doesn't really even matter at this point.. then that is just selfish, and likely enough to get me to possibly just lynch you anyways.

If you think it through a bit, you can probably try to find a way to make sure you get your point across on who you think is a wolf while also limiting the people who could possibly night kill you. Once again this only matters once the cunning wolf is killed anyways though, but if you do a good job of it and die anyways later, you could pretty easily help single out who the wolf might be... Voting me does none of that and is a pretty self-centered vote in my opinion.

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

How is it worthless? If I vote for Player X today and he is a wolf, but not the cunning wolf, he can still kill me down the road. Say we get lucky and lynch the cunning wolf today. If I vote for a random player like clap, then I would make myself an easy kill tonight.

no you wouldnt,, im not a wolf and cant kill you. but the point is until the cunning wolf dies, it doesnt matter!

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Telle

Hey, this kind of stuff and spreadsheets (and databases.. need to create one for WW sometime) is what you get from a data geek

I thought you said in previous games that you DID create a database for a WW game. Backtracking again, huh? Don't make me vote you again!

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by Telle

Hey, this kind of stuff and spreadsheets (and databases.. need to create one for WW sometime) is what you get from a data geek

a data geek woudl imply rational and detailed personality /= marrying RendeR

=)

[GoldenEagle]

VOTE CHIEF RUM

He is the most likely candidate to be a wolf at this time, in my opinion.

[Telle]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I thought you said in previous games that you DID create a database for a WW game. Backtracking again, huh? Don't make me vote you again!

No, I said I wanted to but didn't have a means for accessing one from multiple computers. Right now I use Google spreadsheets so that I can get to them from both work and home. If Google makes an accessible database then I'd be all over that Although I think RendeR does have database access off of his domain.. but I don't know web stuff all that well so I'm not sure how I'd use it. Something to think about though

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

VOTE CHIEF RUM

He is the most likely candidate to be a wolf at this time, in my opinion.

Why?

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

a data geek woudl imply rational and detailed personality /= marrying RendeR

=)

She married me for my massive Penis and Wizardly control of it.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by RendeR

She married me for my massive Penis and Wizardly control of it.

I call my penis 'data' also. Or is it that I call my data 'penis'? Maybe it's both.

[Passacaglia]

UNVOTE EAGLEFAN
VOTE BARKEEP49

[Telle]

Originally Posted by RendeR

She married me for my massive Penis and Wizardly control of it.

My my, somebody has a big ego

[mccollins]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

UNVOTE EAGLEFAN
VOTE BARKEEP49

Did you find the hint too?

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by Telle

My my, somebody has a big ego

damn RendeR shes caling you out!

[st.cronin]

deadline

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by mccollins

Did you find the hint too?

Last second move like that makes me think doubtful. It makes me think one of two other possibilities (1 good for Pass and 1 bad for Pass)

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by mccollins

Did you find the hint too?

are you aware of it?

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by mccollins

Did you find the hint too?

No.

[st.cronin]

7 - Barkeep49 - Lathum (1052), PackerFanatic (1068), oliegirl (1072), mccollins (1079), Telle (1080), Mrs. Schmidty (1118), Passacaglia (1215)
4 - Chief Rum - LoneStarGirl (939), RendeR (1038), saldana (1175), GoldenEagle (1210)
3 - EagleFan - Chief Rum (1000), SnDvls (1065), claphamsa (1084)
3 - Lathum - Danny (1015), Barkeep49 (1040), DaddyTorgo (1089)
1 - oliegirl - EagleFan (943)
1 - saldana - Alan T (1044)

no vote: Schmidty

[mccollins]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

are you aware of it?

I have a guess

[st.cronin]

Barkeep49 has been lynched by the mob! He was the spy!

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by RendeR

She married me for my massive Penis and Wizardly control of it.

I just threw up in my mouth a little.

[Passacaglia]

Oh, crap.

[GoldenEagle]

Shit.

[mccollins]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Barkeep49 has been lynched by the mob! He was the spy!

Well, my guess was wrong - in his analysis post, EagleFan said he'd "sneak" in around lunch.

[Danny]

Crap

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by RendeR

She married me for my massive Penis and Wizardly control of it.

You hold it in your hand and wave it around?

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by mccollins

Well, my guess was wrong - in his analysis post, EagleFan said he'd "sneak" in around lunch.

Yeah, clever usage of words in posts I find are used just as often by wolves as by good guys and never seem to go over quite as well as planned anyways. I personally don't put much weight into them unless I actually am a wolf trying to find a seer or Bodyguard or someone that is hinting their role (which I know they aren't a wolf)

[Lathum]

not a great outcome

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by mccollins

Well, my guess was wrong - in his analysis post, EagleFan said he'd "sneak" in around lunch.

Uhh, sorry that was in reference to what I am doing now. Sneaking in so my boss doesn't peak over my shoulder.

[claphamsa]

crap!

[saldana]

and there goes our best chance at catching the cunning wolf

[PackerFanatic]

Damn...sorry BK

[Telle]

Well that sucketh.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

You hold it in your hand and wave it around?

Sometimes....yes? Doesn't everyone?

[st.cronin]

DaddyTorgo has been killed by wolves! He was the bodyguard!

Day 3 starts now, deadline is Friday 3pm eastern time.

As before, if you were expecting a pm, and did not get one, please let me know.

[Lathum]

I still don't believe DT


I scanned Pass, he came back human.

[claphamsa]

still dont?

[Danny]

That's about the worst possible result we could have had

[Alan T]

Day 1

10 - DaddyTorgo - Lathum (339), LoneStarGirl (538), PackerFanatic (556), mccollins (605), claphamsa (946), SnDvls (659), Mrs. Schmidty (676), saldana (691), oliegirl (707), GoldenEagle (725)
7 - Lathum - DaddyTorgo (250), KWhit (278), Barkeep (283), RendeR (294), Danny (431), Telle (650), Passacaglia (745)
1 - Mrs. Schmidty - EagleFan (362)
1 - EagleFan - Schmidty (394)
1 - saldana - Chief Rum (594)
1 - Alan T - Alan T (778)


Day 2


7 - Barkeep49 - Lathum (1052), PackerFanatic (1068), oliegirl (1072), mccollins (1079), Telle (1080), Mrs. Schmidty (1118), Passacaglia (1215)
4 - Chief Rum - LoneStarGirl (939), RendeR (1038), saldana (1175), GoldenEagle (1210)
3 - EagleFan - Chief Rum (1000), SnDvls (1065), claphamsa (1084)
3 - Lathum - Danny (1015), Barkeep49 (1040), DaddyTorgo (1089)
1 - oliegirl - EagleFan (943)
1 - saldana - Alan T (1044)

no vote: Schmidty

[EagleFan]

So much for putting DT in my CoT. I am actually starting to believe Lathum a bit more now as it seems like he is being setup by the wolves.

This will definitely give us a good chance to look over the votes to see who spear headed first the attempt at DT and then the run on BK (when there was no evidence for such a run).

[Lathum]

what's your point alan?

[Lathum]

lets look at the day 1 voting. We know 3 of the 7 votes on me were villagers. There is probably a wolf in the other 4. I have scanned Telle and PAss and both came back good for me.

Danny and Render are the other 2, one of them will most definantly be getting my vote.

[Danny]

Lathum, you now believe you are the real seer and not the fake seer?

[GoldenEagle]

So I have been working on this theory for a while. The wolves did not kill Lathum last night? What does that mean?

A) Lathum is a wolf

or

B) The wolves know that Lathum is the fake seer and while supply us with wrong information. How would they know that? Lathum scanned Telle the first night. The only way possible they know that Lathum is the fake seer is that Telle is a wolf.

B is the much more plausible scenario in my opinion.

[Alan T]

Based on the result of that lynch I believe that Lathum is NOT the cunning wolf. I have to assume BK being the most suspicious of Lathum being the cunning wolf would have followed him as the spy. Since it is most likely that the cunning wolf would have made the night kill last night, since BK didn't report any such thing happening.. plus Barkeep's post 1040 stated he is more inclined to believe Lathum today than yesterday but still left the door open to him possibly being the cultist...

Sooo I think Lathum for now is off of my list of people who could be the cunning wolf.. that means if any other seer chose to scan Lathum to see if they could validate his claim.. you should consider a reveal if you get a Wolf reading from Lathum.. That would mean either:

1) You are a fake seer and getting that out of the way would help...

or

2) You are the real seer and found a wolf.

The only thing you may want to consider is that since the bodyguard is gone you will no longer have any protection.. so if you aren't ready to reveal just yet, I understand.

Either way, I think with BK's death we absolutely should move the vote today away from Lathum.. with the assumption he is not the cunning wolf and will turn up as a wolf to a real seer scan anyways. I think we have to at least consider like I have been saying for a while that day 1 may have been villager vs villager anyways.