Werewolf LXXVI - The Werewolf Draft! Game over, see last pages for details - Page 26

Alan T · 06-26-2008, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

what's your point alan?

Was getting to it. Don't panic, my point probably is ok for your short term future anyways.

EagleFan · 06-26-2008, 02:17 PM

We now have:

oliegirl, Mrs Schmidty, Lathum, PF and mccollins showing up on DT and BK.

Of those 5 I would bet that we have at least 2 wolves. Why not start there?

DT and KWhit both voted for only Lathum so it seems way too much like a setup there.

Alan T · 06-26-2008, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

So I have been working on this theory for a while. The wolves did not kill Lathum last night? What does that mean?

A) Lathum is a wolf

or

B) The wolves know that Lathum is the fake seer and while supply us with wrong information. How would they know that? Lathum scanned Telle the first night. The only way possible they know that Lathum is the fake seer is that Telle is a wolf.

B is the much more plausible scenario in my opinion.

I think the wolves made the absolute best play as far as high percentages go...

Day 1 DT thinking he was a lynch goner probably put in a protection order to protect himself earlier in the day and didn't bother changing it (if he even wanted to)..

Thus I figured and evidently the wolves figured also.. that it was a better than 50/50 chance DT could not protect himself last night.. It was the absolute best time for them to go and kill him last night and get rid of the bodyguard... No matter what they would have left Lathum alone last night regardless if he is a villager. The chances of him finding a wolf AND being the real seer is much lower than the chances the bodyguard was blocked (if Lathum is telling the truth that is)

GoldenEagle · 06-26-2008, 02:19 PM

At this point, I am confident of two wolves:

1. Telle
2. Passacaglia

Barkeep49 · 06-26-2008, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

BK trying to throw votes around and LGS' aggressiveness of late have peaked my radar - but for all I know, this is always how they play.

I've voted for one person on both days. How is that throwing votes around?

As an FYI this is the post I'm on and will likely comment on more as I catch up.

Lathum · 06-26-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Lathum, you now believe you are the real seer and not the fake seer?

why are you interested?

VOTE DANNY

Lathum · 06-26-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

So I have been working on this theory for a while. The wolves did not kill Lathum last night? What does that mean?

A) Lathum is a wolf

or

B) The wolves know that Lathum is the fake seer and while supply us with wrong information. How would they know that? Lathum scanned Telle the first night. The only way possible they know that Lathum is the fake seer is that Telle is a wolf.

B is the much more plausible scenario in my opinion.

I think the simpelest explination is the wolves correctly guesses DT would protect himeself N1

claphamsa · 06-26-2008, 02:23 PM

confident?

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

At this point, I am confident of two wolves:

1. Telle
2. Passacaglia

Barkeep49 · 06-26-2008, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Did I miss something with BK? Is this vote based solely on what if or did he so something to bring on the suspicion?

Great question. Solely on suspicion. But not too surprising since I took a hiatus and players always seem to get a run on them after taking a hiatus.

PackerFanatic · 06-26-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I've voted for one person on both days. How is that throwing votes around?

As an FYI this is the post I'm on and will likely comment on more as I catch up.

I didn't mean throwing YOUR votes around, it was how you were getting others to put votes elsewhere - obviously I was mistaken.

Barkeep49 · 06-26-2008, 02:26 PM

Whoops. Just realized deadline was 3 eastern not 3 central as I had it in my head. I hate mid day lynches.

Danny · 06-26-2008, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

why are you interested?

VOTE DANNY

Because if you are the fake seer, we can't rule out people you have scanned, that's all. This seems like a revenge vote just because I voted for you. I felt you were the best candidate with the least amount of risk. With the most recent developments, I don't think I will feel like you are the best choice for today.

Barkeep49 · 06-26-2008, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Whoops. Just realized deadline was 3 eastern not 3 central as I had it in my head. I hate mid day lynches.

Really glad I didn't post a long response to an Alan T post I'd done.

Alan T · 06-26-2008, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Really glad I didn't post a long response to an Alan T post I'd done.

You can send it to me in PM if you want. I love getting notes from you!

Barkeep49 · 06-26-2008, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

You can send it to me in PM if you want. I love getting notes from you!

I wish I could but it's got a whole bunch of analysis in it, proving I'm not a wolf and casting suspicion on others. I'd think you'd believe the "I'm not a wolf" part at this point and wouldn't be fair to give other info.

Lathum · 06-26-2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Because if you are the fake seer, we can't rule out people you have scanned, that's all. This seems like a revenge vote just because I voted for you. I felt you were the best candidate with the least amount of risk. With the most recent developments, I don't think I will feel like you are the best choice for today.

not a revenge vote at all.

I already said I was going to vote for you or Render

Danny · 06-26-2008, 02:37 PM

I understand your vote. I just think it's important we don't automatically clear Telle or Pass just because you scanned them as good. And that is a main reason I voted for you and stand behind my first two votes. Everyone has said its much more likely you are the fake seer and you are potentially clearing wolves now.

Passacaglia · 06-26-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

At this point, I am confident of two wolves:

1. Telle
2. Passacaglia

Then this should confuse the hell out of you.

VOTE TELLE

Join me, and see if I unvote.

Passacaglia · 06-26-2008, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

I understand your vote. I just think it's important we don't automatically clear Telle or Pass just because you scanned them as good. And that is a main reason I voted for you and stand behind my first two votes. Everyone has said its much more likely you are the fake seer and you are potentially clearing wolves now.

We all understand that he could be the fake seer -- I don't see that as a reason to lynch him -- no one sees Telle or me as being cleared.

mccollins · 06-26-2008, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

confident?

That word jumped out to me too. Telle has been somewhat suspicious and I guess they could have been two arguing wolves, but most of today Pass. sounded like his normal questioning villager self...

Passacaglia · 06-26-2008, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mccollins

That word jumped out to me too. Telle has been somewhat suspicious and I guess they could have been two arguing wolves, but most of today Pass. sounded like his normal questioning villager self...

He didn't meant 100% confident, as in scanned. He meant that he's pretty sure of it.

Danny · 06-26-2008, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

We all understand that he could be the fake seer -- I don't see that as a reason to lynch him -- no one sees Telle or me as being cleared.

At this point I agree, but for day one and day two, I did not have a good read on anyone. Perhaps my votes were mistakes, but at the time I didn't see a better option.

GoldenEagle · 06-26-2008, 02:47 PM

I am not the seer, that is not what I am hinting at. There was no hint at all.

VOTE TELLE

oliegirl · 06-26-2008, 03:39 PM

I agree completely with Lathum, and was making notes that were heading to the same idea he came to - that Lathum's scan of Telle proved to the wolves that he was the fool, which is why he hasn't been killed. But that begs the question, who is the real seer? I have a couple of ideas in my head, the next 24 hours will hopefully prove my theory one way or another, but I'm not going to give details as we need to keep the real seer protected for as long as possible, especially now that we don't have a BG.

VOTE TELLE

Schmidty · 06-26-2008, 03:46 PM

Sorry everyone. My wife tried to wake me up when she left for work, but I guess I must've just rolled over.

Not an excuse, but as Mrs. S can confirm, I was going on almost 2 days with only 4 hours of sleep. Regardless, I should have had a vote in before I left work this morning, so again, I'm sorry.

GoldenEagle · 06-26-2008, 03:55 PM

Its eerily quiet this afternoon.

Lathum · 06-26-2008, 04:00 PM

Schmidty, who would you have voted for?

Schmidty · 06-26-2008, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Schmidty, who would you have voted for?

I really don't know. I need to catch up, and then make an informed post.

I will tell you one thing - I wouldn't have voted for the good guys!!!

Off to grocery shop. Pork soft tacos or barbecued ribs for dinner. Please stay tuned.

Alan T · 06-26-2008, 04:10 PM

I just realized something very important...

We need to get someone named Roli to play WW here...

So then we can have a Roli Poli Olie

saldana · 06-26-2008, 04:42 PM

i would love for alan to explain why he was calling me out for my safe play as "not being a team player" and "making a throwaway vote", but then left his vote on me as essentially a throwaway, while our spy was getting lynched.

Alan T · 06-26-2008, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

i would love for alan to explain why he was calling me out for my safe play as "not being a team player" and "making a throwaway vote", but then left his vote on me as essentially a throwaway, while our spy was getting lynched.

Well why didn't you tell me he was our spy before the lynch.. sheesh I would have moved my vote!

Lets try it again today!

Vote Saldana

Danny · 06-26-2008, 04:50 PM

I'm not sure I see the move for saldana. I agree with the thinking regarding Oliegirl, so for now Vote Oliegirl

Alan T · 06-26-2008, 04:54 PM

Oh, and I'm wondering if all of those people who thought I was an idiot for saving the bodyguard on day 1 still feel that way or not.

oliegirl · 06-26-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

I just realized something very important...

We need to get someone named Roli to play WW here...

So then we can have a Roli Poli Olie

LOL! That is actually where my screen name comes from...I gave my son a kitten for his 3rd b'day, he named it Rolie Polie Olie after the Disney TV show, that got shortened to Olie, and then it morphed into Oliegirl.

I am surprised it took someone this long to make the Poli/Olie connection though...

SnDvls · 06-26-2008, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

i would love for alan to explain why he was calling me out for my safe play as "not being a team player" and "making a throwaway vote", but then left his vote on me as essentially a throwaway, while our spy was getting lynched.

just for clarification I said the team player comment. Alan said the throwaway vote one.

and I stand by my comment. I understand why you did it, but think that it was a very selfserving move (and I fully admit I don't know you're role, but can see your reason for it as I originally stated)

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Oh, and I'm wondering if all of those people who thought I was an idiot for saving the bodyguard on day 1 still feel that way or not.

again yes I still think you are an idiot

. (see my original post on this subject) You can't say you knew DT was the bodyguard for sure though until his death today so you can't take full credit for saving the BG. You really just prolonged his death and cost us KWhit in the process

Alan T · 06-26-2008, 05:07 PM

For other random thoughts that I have.. I'm still not completely convinced that Lathum isn't the cultist like I originally had suggested on day 1.

Lathum · 06-26-2008, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

For other random thoughts that I have.. I'm still not completely convinced that Lathum isn't the cultist like I originally had suggested on day 1.

im the seer

oliegirl · 06-26-2008, 05:20 PM

I'm out for the night, SeaLion has a softball game at 9:30, we are going to grab dinner and hit Wal Mart before the game...I'm working at 9:30 tomorrow morning so I'll be around and hopefully will have time to catch up

EagleFan · 06-26-2008, 05:42 PM

This night time dinner you speak of doesn't happen to involve a main course of villager?

...

Just checking...

oliegirl · 06-26-2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

This night time dinner you speak of doesn't happen to involve a main course of villager?

...

Just checking...

Cute

No, it doesn't. I don't eat villager, too gamey

claphamsa · 06-26-2008, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

i would love for alan to explain why he was calling me out for my safe play as "not being a team player" and "making a throwaway vote", but then left his vote on me as essentially a throwaway, while our spy was getting lynched.

wtf are you retarted?

vote saldana!

claphamsa · 06-26-2008, 06:07 PM

I appligoze for my non PC outburtst!

Alan T · 06-26-2008, 06:09 PM

It's ok, only because retarted rhymes with pop-tarted

LoneStarGirl · 06-26-2008, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

BK trying to throw votes around and LGS' aggressiveness of late have peaked my radar - but for all I know, this is always how they play.

I am really never aggressive to be honest. I am enjoying this change. But I assure you I am not a wolf. The change is merely because I have not played WW in a long time and m first game back, the short game that just concluded, I did not speak up at all and things happened that I did not agree with and my team lost. So now I am going to try the aggressive approach.

LoneStarGirl · 06-26-2008, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

VOTE BARKEEP49

Something rubs me the wrong way about him.

So this was the second vote on Barkeep and he turned out good? Something to look at for tomorrow.

LoneStarGirl · 06-26-2008, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I'm really not a fan of this sort of thing becaue IMO it comes off a little elitist, but to answer your question.

Saldana
CR
SNDVLS

with Olie, Render and GE not far behind

I totally agree with CR, SNDVLS and probably Render.... Olie and GE not so much... Saldana I dont remember AT ALL so i can't say

Telle · 06-26-2008, 06:37 PM

What's with the run on me?

Telle · 06-26-2008, 06:40 PM

Lathum's Day 1 scan of me couldn't have influenced the Day 1 kill.. they happen simultaneously. And on Day 2 they probably figured the body guard was going to guard him and thus killed the body guard instead.

LoneStarGirl · 06-26-2008, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

UNVOTE EAGLEFAN
VOTE BARKEEP49

I hope he explained this vote later on... made 3 minutes before deadline. VERY suspicious

Passacaglia · 06-26-2008, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

I hope he explained this vote later on... made 3 minutes before deadline. VERY suspicious

No one asked me to.

06-26-2008, 02:19 PM	#1254
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	At this point, I am confident of two wolves: 1. Telle 2. Passacaglia __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

06-26-2008, 02:47 PM	#1273
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	I am not the seer, that is not what I am hinting at. There was no hint at all. VOTE TELLE __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

06-26-2008, 03:46 PM	#1275
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Sorry everyone. My wife tried to wake me up when she left for work, but I guess I must've just rolled over. Not an excuse, but as Mrs. S can confirm, I was going on almost 2 days with only 4 hours of sleep. Regardless, I should have had a vote in before I left work this morning, so again, I'm sorry. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

06-26-2008, 03:55 PM	#1276
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	Its eerily quiet this afternoon. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

06-26-2008, 06:07 PM	#1292
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	I appligoze for my non PC outburtst! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

06-26-2008, 02:17 PM	#1252
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	We now have: oliegirl, Mrs Schmidty, Lathum, PF and mccollins showing up on DT and BK. Of those 5 I would bet that we have at least 2 wolves. Why not start there? DT and KWhit both voted for only Lathum so it seems way too much like a setup there.

06-26-2008, 02:26 PM	#1261
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Whoops. Just realized deadline was 3 eastern not 3 central as I had it in my head. I hate mid day lynches.

06-26-2008, 02:37 PM	#1267
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I understand your vote. I just think it's important we don't automatically clear Telle or Pass just because you scanned them as good. And that is a main reason I voted for you and stand behind my first two votes. Everyone has said its much more likely you are the fake seer and you are potentially clearing wolves now.

06-26-2008, 04:00 PM	#1277
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Schmidty, who would you have voted for?

06-26-2008, 04:10 PM	#1279
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	I just realized something very important... We need to get someone named Roli to play WW here... So then we can have a Roli Poli Olie

06-26-2008, 04:42 PM	#1280
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	i would love for alan to explain why he was calling me out for my safe play as "not being a team player" and "making a throwaway vote", but then left his vote on me as essentially a throwaway, while our spy was getting lynched.

06-26-2008, 04:50 PM	#1282
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I'm not sure I see the move for saldana. I agree with the thinking regarding Oliegirl, so for now Vote Oliegirl

06-26-2008, 04:54 PM	#1283
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Oh, and I'm wondering if all of those people who thought I was an idiot for saving the bodyguard on day 1 still feel that way or not.

06-26-2008, 05:07 PM	#1286
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	For other random thoughts that I have.. I'm still not completely convinced that Lathum isn't the cultist like I originally had suggested on day 1.

06-26-2008, 05:42 PM	#1289
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	This night time dinner you speak of doesn't happen to involve a main course of villager? ... Just checking...

06-26-2008, 06:09 PM	#1293
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	It's ok, only because retarted rhymes with pop-tarted

06-26-2008, 06:37 PM	#1297
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	What's with the run on me?

06-26-2008, 06:40 PM	#1298
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	Lathum's Day 1 scan of me couldn't have influenced the Day 1 kill.. they happen simultaneously. And on Day 2 they probably figured the body guard was going to guard him and thus killed the body guard instead.

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