Werewolf 107, Terror at Blizzcon, Basic Game, GAME OVER, HORDE WINS

[saldana]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

You are in a tough spot sal since none of the other 3 candidates are on you at this point

yeah, best i can do is create a tie, but i have no reason to go to either kwhit or darth...there is not the matter of vengence with them like there is with dubb.

[saldana]

dola, i am not inclined to create a tie...i think they are horrible for the village. (cue barkeep telling me that they are good for us at this point)

[PurdueBrad]

Saldana, this usually isn't a great D1 question, but if it were a blank slate, where would you put your vote? The lack of movement has me slightly concerned.

[Schmidty]

Unvote Poli

Vote Darth

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by saldana

dola, i am not inclined to create a tie...i think they are horrible for the village. (cue barkeep telling me that they are good for us at this point)

But it would save yourself. ANd with an hour left someone else would break the tie throwing suspicion off you. Do you really not see this or is this an act?

[saldana]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Saldana, this usually isn't a great D1 question, but if it were a blank slate, where would you put your vote? The lack of movement has me slightly concerned.

dont really know what you are looking for in an answer there since i actually did cast the first vote of the day...i went with dubb for historic reasons (which were refreshed by his gloating PM after last game )...i can say i dont really like his instant defensiveness, which would make me want to vote for him if i already werent, but that is also historic...he plays slightly off the hook all the time to make it hard to read him

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by saldana

dont really know what you are looking for in an answer there since i actually did cast the first vote of the day...i went with dubb for historic reasons (which were refreshed by his gloating PM after last game )...i can say i dont really like his instant defensiveness, which would make me want to vote for him if i already werent, but that is also historic...he plays slightly off the hook all the time to make it hard to read him

My bad, I thought you hadn't voted yet. Agree with you on dubb's style though, but it doesn't seem the same as when he and Jackal went back and forth last game.

[Lathum]

Vote Count

DV-4- J23 (100), Dubb (113) MartinD (126) Schmidty (154)
Saldana-4- Spleen (74) Clap (122) Autumn 131 Danny (135)
Kwhit-3- EF (95) RealDeal (127) PB (128)
Dubb-3- Saldana (70) CF (96) Dubb (120)
EF-1-Poli (80)

[saldana]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

But it would save yourself. ANd with an hour left someone else would break the tie throwing suspicion off you. Do you really not see this or is this an act?

being relatively new around these parts, you would not have been part of the seemingly endless argument that we have regarding whether or not day one ties are a good thing or not...i have never believed they are.

and if there is one thing that you should have learned about me from last game, it is that I will sacrifice myself for the benefit of the village...i could have easily pardoned myself last game but chose to die in order to save the rest of the village the waste of a day...ive done the same thing before (rome comes to mind), and if i have to today, i will...not trying to be heroic...just my style.

[PurdueBrad]

Ties are not a good thing and I'll push this a bit:

unvote KWhit

vote DarthVilus

[CrimsonFox]

AFter last game I did realize that ties = no wolf AND no knowledge, so yeah I get it.

I still think not using your gov last round was a bad idea. I was the only one really saying to vote for you on two different days and no one was really listening to me last game except for my slutvotes. And if you look now, there is no longer a tie, so don't play martyr anymore, it doesn't help.

[PurdueBrad]

I don't like the three votes on Saldana between 122 and 135 so lets see what this does.

[saldana]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

AFter last game I did realize that ties = no wolf AND no knowledge, so yeah I get it.

I still think not using your gov last round was a bad idea. I was the only one really saying to vote for you on two different days and no one was really listening to me last game except for my slutvotes. And if you look now, there is no longer a tie, so don't play martyr anymore, it doesn't help.

if you think that is playing martyr, you ain't seen nothin' yet....wait til people start voting for themselves.

[CrimsonFox]

henry's lurking again! Get him!

[Lathum]

Just a reminder we are using a 24 hour clock so if you have a night action it needs to be submitted by 9:00 PM EST

[KWhit]

For self-preservation:

VOTE DARTH VILUS

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by KWhit

For self-preservation:

VOTE DARTH VILUS

Um....HUH?!?!?

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Um....HUH?!?!?

What do you mean by that?

[CrimsonFox]

well you have 2 votes and he has 5. YOu aren't in any danger

[saldana]

6-4 darth over sal atm

[GoldenEagle]

I am going to vote for saldana to keep things close.

VOTE SALDANA

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Vote Count

DV-4- J23 (100), Dubb (113) MartinD (126) Schmidty (154)
Saldana-4- Spleen (74) Clap (122) Autumn 131 Danny (135)
Kwhit-3- EF (95) RealDeal (127) PB (128)
Dubb-3- Saldana (70) CF (96) Dubb (120)
EF-1-Poli (80)

Ah. I missed PBs unvote of me and vote for DV.

I thought it was 4-4-3 with me just one vote behind.

[saldana]

one thing that i think we may have forgotten is there is a warlock out there that counts twice, so a one vote margin could also create the tie.

unvote dubb
vote darth

[CrimsonFox]

So just to ask this stupid question, what is the purpose of keeping something so close it could be a tie and ergo no wolf lynch? Just so that people can switch at the last second and affect things?

[claphamsa]

FWIW im here and reading along.....

[saldana]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

So just to ask this stupid question, what is the purpose of keeping something so close it could be a tie and ergo no wolf lynch? Just so that people can switch at the last second and affect things?

we try to analyze the movement to see if people are moving off particular people or onto others as a way of rooting out wolves based on their vote history...either moving off to keep someone from lynch or onto someone to make sure particular people dont get lynched.

[Danny]

I'd bet strongly that Darth is a villager and I also think that there is a wolf with multiple votes on them right now which is why Darth is starting to be a run away. My guess is Saldana or Kwhit.

[The Jackal]

Updated count?

[Danny]

The person pinging me the most right now is actually PurdueBrad though.

[Danny]

Pretty sure it is 7-5 Darth and Saldana with Kwhit at 2 and Dubb at 3.

[dubb93]

Who the hell did you vote for Danny? You aren't in Lathum's count.

[The Jackal]

As a note - we want the double vote to make itself apparent as soon as possible, so close votes aren't a bad thing. That would present a group of people that has to contain a wolf.

[EagleFan]

Me thinks DV is a villager being strung up...

[Danny]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Who the hell did you vote for Danny? You aren't in Lathum's count.

Saldana last page.

[EagleFan]

Darth Vilus 7, saldana 5, dubb93 2, Kwhit 2, EagleFan 1

[Danny]

And I am in Lathum's count.

[dubb93]

Unvote Darth
Vote Saldana

Let's see what shakes

[Danny]

That is a good point Jackal

[Danny]

Good move Dubb, a tie won't actually be a tie with what Jackal brought up.

[saldana]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

As a note - we want the double vote to make itself apparent as soon as possible, so close votes aren't a bad thing. That would present a group of people that has to contain a wolf.

Originally Posted by post 2, the rules

Warlock- You have a minion as a pet, your vote counts as double each day, this vote will not be reflected in the vote count but will be factored into the results.

or not

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by Danny

And I am in Lathum's count.

I fail at reading. For the life of me I couldn't find you. Now that you say that I see you.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Who the hell did you vote for Danny? You aren't in Lathum's count.

Yes he is. He voted for Saldana

[EagleFan]

I read the votes as an attempt to save saldana at this point, kind of like how hoops was saved day one last game...

Of course I could be wrong (and probably usually am).

[Danny]

Lets leave this a tie! It means if the warlock happens to be on a 3rd candidate we hit the jackpot and if not we narrow it down to one group of 2. and learn who they voted to save.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

As a note - we want the double vote to make itself apparent as soon as possible, so close votes aren't a bad thing. That would present a group of people that has to contain a wolf.

Very good point and very interesting that saldana doesn't want us to find this out...

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

I read the votes as an attempt to save saldana at this point, kind of like how hoops was saved day one last game...

Of course I could be wrong (and probably usually am).

Then again that's whow we could see the votes FOR Saldana as an attempt to save Darth/Dubb/Kwhit.
I'm with you, I'm probably wrong both ways.

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by Danny

Lets leave this a tie! It means if the warlock happens to be on a 3rd candidate we hit the jackpot and if not we narrow it down to one group of 2. and learn who they voted to save.

I was actually thinking that ealier but I didn't think I could present it without getting killed in thread for acting like a wolf.

[Lathum]

DV-6- J23 (100), MartinD (126) Schmidty (154) PD (160) Kwhit (166) Sal (173)
Saldana-6- Spleen (74) Clap (122) Autumn (131) Danny (135) GE (171) Dubb (187)
Kwhit-2- EF (95) RealDeal (127)
Dubb-2- CF (96) DV (120)
EF-1-Poli (80)

[Danny]

Originally Posted by dubb93

I was actually thinking that ealier but I didn't think I could present it without getting killed in thread for acting like a wolf.

I worry more about you when you are not acting like a wolf

[CrimsonFox]

We won't know the final result unless it affects the lynched. If it's on a third person, we won't learn ****. That's how I read it. Lathum? clarification on warlock?