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Old 08-11-2005, 06:30 PM   #901
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Having possessed the Notebook, I did spend a fair amount of time considering what I could do with it. But since it doesn't tell who is holding onto an item, and many of the items I was most interested in were unlikely to be changing hands, I decided that I would move it onto someone else.

I also intuitively think this is an item that accumulates value later in the game. And I was concerned I might not be around later in the game after my Digamma debacle yesterday.
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Old 08-11-2005, 06:32 PM   #902
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I'm seeing a bandwagon emerge that I don't have a particularly good feel for one way or the other - not that I had a correct feeling yesterday

I'm going to cast a vote for a guy that I've been growing gradually more suspicious of over the last few days.

Vote Raiders Army

I realize this is a wasted vote today and it is something that may lead to a forum war of words tomorrow. I guess I'm putting it out there with hopes that someone with a seer power will choose to focus in on him tonight.

As far as what to look for with the Notebook, I think the Ointment is a pretty good choice. If you get confirmation that it is in the game that would suggest that a wolf did not use it last night to save Fouts. The alternative is that someone did purchase it last night with silver they accumulated, fearing a future dart attack. Another option would be to look for a Mask - if they are still out there in the game in the hands of villagers then they are likely to be passed. If that happens, then you will see where the Mask ends up. Book of the Damned is probably a decent choice as well - if you see it is in the game then we know there are three people who are aligned against the villagers. If we know that then it becomes much more interesting to pick up something like the Ledger (think that is the one which shows how many wolves + sorcerors voted on a person).
Well, not what I expected, but okay. I can roll with that. I think we need to draw some people out and this is a good way to do so. I'm just not sure what I did to warrant your distrust. Maybe it was the fact that I threw it in your face that I had a level 50 tank on CoH. Heh heh.
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Old 08-11-2005, 06:32 PM   #903
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Blade is too vocal against RealDeal who I think is a good guy.

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Old 08-11-2005, 06:36 PM   #904
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A big part of it is how consistent your behavior has been from the previous WW game, where you were a bad guy. If you are a villager here then I think you should take this as a pretty serious compliment - that you come off the same way, guilty or innocent. But if you are a wolf then you might want to work on changing gears a little more with people who have played with you before.

Believe it or not, the COH L50 tank played no role in it - I laughed very hard at that taunting. Reminds me of why, every once in awhile, I miss playing that game.
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Old 08-11-2005, 06:38 PM   #905
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Thanks, Henry. Like I said, Kill Blade today, and if he's a villager, I will dispose of the coat, and you can have me tomorrow. Hell, even if he is a wolf I'll have to dispose of the cloak because I had to go public with it again. It doesn't even cost you an extra turn because you'll have to lynch me twice right now.

I'll live or die on this one: Kill Blade.
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Old 08-11-2005, 06:40 PM   #906
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You can only pass one silver per night.


I maybe wasn't clear about this. You can pass any amount of silver in a night, as long as it is in a lump sum to one person, like 3 silver from you to Player X is fine, 1 silver to Player X, 1 silver to Player Y, 1 silver to Player Z is not.
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Old 08-11-2005, 06:42 PM   #907
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Got it.

One more switch-a-roo

unvote - Realdeal
vote - Blade
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Old 08-11-2005, 06:45 PM   #908
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I'll live or die on this one: Kill Blade.

You're right.

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Old 08-11-2005, 06:48 PM   #909
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I'm a little concerned with a kill-for-kill strategy on RealDeal/Blade, since neither one is claiming to have proof (at least, seer-quality proof) that the other is a wolf.

If they are both villagers then the wolves are full of glee at this turn of events.
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Old 08-11-2005, 06:49 PM   #910
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It's really no better or worst of a strategy then voting by amount of posting....
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Old 08-11-2005, 06:51 PM   #911
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Back after reading ESPN's articles on the Raiders.

Unvote RealDeal
Vote Blade


Doing this because of a conversation yesterday.
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Old 08-11-2005, 06:52 PM   #912
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It's really no better or worst of a strategy then voting by amount of posting....
BTW again, I wasn't saying those people were wolves (although I still believe one of them might be); I was saying that might be an indicator.
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Old 08-11-2005, 06:55 PM   #913
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I know. Just saying that we still don't have much of fool proof strategy...
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Old 08-11-2005, 06:55 PM   #914
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Old 08-11-2005, 06:55 PM   #915
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5 minutes left...
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Old 08-11-2005, 06:55 PM   #916
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Back after reading ESPN's articles on the Raiders.

Unvote RealDeal
Vote Blade


Doing this because of a conversation yesterday.


give me more please....a cloak converstaion??
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Old 08-11-2005, 06:56 PM   #917
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unvote realdeal

until I hear from raiders
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Old 08-11-2005, 06:57 PM   #918
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i pray for you all, since it looks like im toast, that you kill realdeal tomorrow...been a pleasure playinjg with you guys, even if you guys always kill me the second i start pointing fingers...should have kept quiet and maybe could have helped the villagers win...now, either a wolf in realdeal is getting off or the wolves get a free turn off a bicker between two villagers...oh well, since im doomed ill part ways and stay quiet..shame...i think we had one
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Old 08-11-2005, 06:59 PM   #919
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See you in hell, Blade. And if I'm wrong, I'll see you there soon.
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Old 08-11-2005, 06:59 PM   #920
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If they end up both being villagers, then:

Day 4: Real (Coat) not dead: still 12-2
Night 4: Wolves eat: 11-2
Day 5: Real (no Coat) dead: 10-2
Night 5: Wolves eat: 9-2
Day 6: Blade dead: 8-2
Night 6: Wolves eat: 7-2

Substitute Blade for Real in the order - doesn't make a difference to me. Assume that Real doesn't have the Coat, makes for a better scenario.

But those above assumption also don't include any items (remember the dart?) coming into play. Or the Staff halting a vote, giving the wolves another snack. Or the wolves converting another guy with the Book.

We need to start creating some breaks - assuming we miss today our initial numbers advantage will have really experienced some shrinkage.
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:01 PM   #921
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See you in hell, Blade. And if I'm wrong, I'll see you there soon.

I can only pray that they dont let you slip through their fingers...times up, and your wrong...i just pray they dont make a mistake again tomorrow and let you live...god, im never pointing a finger again since i wasnt even on the radar until ill shed my 2 cents...stupid people, dont always kill the one trying to help
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:01 PM   #922
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I have the coat, but I will not have it after tonight. So at worst, you will spend two turns on us. I can't imagine why Blade has picked me out unless he is a wolf. We'll soon see.
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:02 PM   #923
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And my last word on this: Blade, if you are not a wolf, then you totally sucked in this game.
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:04 PM   #924
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Really pulling for Blade to be a wolf, but preparing for disappointment ...
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:05 PM   #925
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And my last word on this: Blade, if you are not a wolf, then you totally sucked in this game.

wow...im shocked...if you let him live im stunned...he was down 5-1 at one point, after i spoke up and he has the nerve to say this...wow, hes a ballsy warewolf...and since you killed me and im the good guy, i cant say your game hasnt been the worst...at least i didnt once hang an innocent man :o
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:06 PM   #926
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At least my prediction was right: you will die before me.

Wolf or stupid: which one will it be...
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:07 PM   #927
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The day was dominated by the clash back and forth between RealDeal and Blade6119, villagers who have had a long standing feud, and this current crisis just brought out the worst in them as they called for blood. In a day where several people did not cast votes (hint, hint) it was Blade6119 who was eventually put on the block:

RealDeal - (4) Blade6119, Eaglesfan27, Vince, Superman=#54
kingfc22 - Ardent
Blade6119 - (6) RealDeal, Ring, henry296, MrBug708, Schmidty, Raiders Army
Raiders Army - hoopsguy

Not voting - Mr. Wednesday, Coffee Warlord, sndvls, kingfc22

Blade6119 was executed, still proclaiming his innocent. He was an innocent villager.

Blade had 4 silver pieces squirrelled away in his house, these will be randomly distributed among the villagers!


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Lathum - Lynched Day 2 - villager
kingfc22
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blade6119 - Lynched Day 4 - villager
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BrianD - killed Night 3 - villager
digamma - Lynched Day 3 - werewolf
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fouts - Poisoned and died Night 3 - villager
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dubb93 - killed Night 2 - villager
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Qwikshot - Lynched Day 1 - Sorceror
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Jeff061 - Killed Night 1 - Sorceror
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Night actions due in by around midnight.
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:07 PM   #928
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stupid it is
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:08 PM   #929
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At least my prediction was right: you will die before me.

Wolf or stupid: which one will it be...

Yah, stupid to take on a wolf after the last person to do that(dubb) bit the dust...shuld have waited until i could buy the right weapon and do it myself...god, if you dont die in the next two days maximum then ill give you all the credit in the world for pulling a veil over their eyes...im stunned that a complete bluff on your part changed all their minds...
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:08 PM   #930
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Geez....

4 missed voters?!?
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:10 PM   #931
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I didn't miss on purpose. I was waiting for a response.
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:11 PM   #932
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But you knew when the deadline was going to be...response or no response, you rescinded it with 3 minutes left...
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:11 PM   #933
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post mortem: Been fun playing with you guys...most of you...best of luck in rooting the wolves out
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:11 PM   #934
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We messed this one up. The momentum is going to the wolves, the next lynch vote will be very important.
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:12 PM   #935
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Sorry Blade. At the last minute a guy who I thought was legit voted for you. Had to do it. I mourn your passing.

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The day was dominated by the clash back and forth between RealDeal and Blade6119, villagers who have had a long standing feud, and this current crisis just brought out the worst in them as they called for blood. In a day where several people did not cast votes (hint, hint) it was Blade6119 who was eventually put on the block:
hint hint?
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:12 PM   #936
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correct, and it looks like you and I both contributed to a deah. you with a vote for and me by not allowing a tie w/ realdeal
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:13 PM   #937
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oops death not deah
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:13 PM   #938
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Jesus Christ Blade, your fucking brilliant detective skills have gotten two villagers killed. Why was it that you suspected me again? I can't remember because it was so fucking stupid. I hope you're in the next game, so I can kill you again.

Anyway, for everyone else: I've passed my belongings and I'm ready to die.
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:16 PM   #939
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Jesus Christ Blade, your fucking brilliant detective skills have gotten two villagers killed. Why was it that you suspected me again? I can't remember because it was so fucking stupid. I hope you're in the next game, so I can kill you again.

You arrogant bastard...dont even give me your dramatics like you got put out by killing me...

I ASK YOU...WHY DID I GET LYNCHED....BECAUSE I ACCUSED YOU...dont fucking give your crap about how bad you got it...prick
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:18 PM   #940
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In a day where several people did not cast votes (hint, hint) it was Blade6119 who was eventually put on the block:

I think Peregrine is warning the players who have not voted. In the rules it says if you miss two votes in a row you will be replaced. Just some friendly encouragement, if I read Peregrine right.
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:18 PM   #941
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Now Now...it's just a game.
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:18 PM   #942
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Jesus Christ Blade, your fucking brilliant detective skills have gotten two villagers killed. Why was it that you suspected me again? I can't remember because it was so fucking stupid. I hope you're in the next game, so I can kill you again.

Anyway, for everyone else: I've passed my belongings and I'm ready to die.

Dude, what the hell.

You are acting like a total jerk. If you're playing in a game in the future, I'll pass on participating. It's one thing to get defensive (as I do on occasion), but it's another thing to totally rip a person and insult them personally over a game. Very, very poor form.
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:19 PM   #943
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Henry, did you communicate with Raiders yesterday using the Robe to PM? If so, what is your overall impression of his guilt/innocence? Any particularly strong opinions? Did he indicate what items he possessed? Did he discuss any people he trusted and/or mistrusted?
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:20 PM   #944
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I think Peregrine is warning the players who have not voted. In the rules it says if you miss two votes in a row you will be replaced. Just some friendly encouragement, if I read Peregrine right.
Gotcha. I thought he actually was giving us a hint as to a possible wolf. After the interchange between RealDeal and Blade, I'm not entirely sure RealDeal is a wolf. He is very loud for being a wolf.
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:22 PM   #945
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give me more please....a cloak converstaion??
missed this before....I guess I have to elaborate or I'll be the next wrongfully lynched. Yes. It was a cloak conversation, but I'm not going to reveal who it was with.
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:23 PM   #946
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I think Realdeal's outburst is mostly being done to save him. I think it might work. Look at what happened with Hoopsguy...
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:26 PM   #947
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My conversation yesterday didn't reveal a lot of information. Once digamma was accused, we didn't discuss a whole lot.
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:27 PM   #948
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I think Realdeal's outburst is mostly being done to save him. I think it might work. Look at what happened with Hoopsguy...

Acting like a complete asshole is going to save him????????? Interesting strategy, and one that I think I could pull off quite well in the future.
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:28 PM   #949
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I think Realdeal's outburst is mostly being done to save him. I think it might work. Look at what happened with Hoopsguy...

I think it is tactless, and unless there is some evidence that suggests we shouldn't kill Realdeal or there is evidence that someone else should be killed, RealDeal will get my vote tomorrow.
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:28 PM   #950
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Isnt that what you do in the RWBL?
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