Survivor:Challenge/Common Thread (GAME OVER! FEED BACK WELCOME) - Page 15

Tyrith · 02-07-2007, 04:00 PM

I also have to say, if I were going to cheat, I would think I would be smarter than doing something THAT dumb when, well, this could have happened :P

Marathoner · 02-07-2007, 04:00 PM

Nice path

Grammaticus · 02-07-2007, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

Not if they went in under "Guest".

Oh, yeah that would do it.

Mr. Wednesday · 02-07-2007, 04:00 PM

Ouch.

Blade6119 · 02-07-2007, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

Anyone else can feel free to rerun this experiment -- I had to use two different web browsers to stop the cookies from screwing up my logins.

Im sure someone will, but the fact you were messing with their threads at all is very bad in my mind...and the fact you went out of your way to attack ardent and say how your hands were shaking from attacks, to admitting you really were messing with their thread....its just leaves a bad taste in my mouth

ImTheCrew · 02-07-2007, 04:00 PM

dang lag EFSDSFDSFDSFDFSDSFDSFD

GoldenEagle · 02-07-2007, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Im sorry GE, how can i trust someone so personally linked to someone who has sworn a blood oath against me

You should have seen her when she found out. She was glowing red like the color of this font. I laughed.

Tyrith · 02-07-2007, 04:02 PM

I wasn't messing with their thread. It was just the post count -- that didn't really seem like part of the thread to me. Yeah, like I said, probably shouldn't have been doing that either, but I've always paid far closer attention to post counts than I should. And, well, um, if we're speaking of attacks...

Mr. Wednesday · 02-07-2007, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Im sure someone will, but the fact you were messing with their threads at all is very bad in my mind...and the fact you went out of your way to attack ardent and say how your hands were shaking from attacks, to admitting you really were messing with their thread....its just leaves a bad taste in my mouth

Why shouldn't he have been pissed about ardent's accusation if he knew that he hadn't actually been in the thread?

Tyrith · 02-07-2007, 04:04 PM

I felt about the same as I did when sack decided to curse at me in WW41...I pretty much barely held myself back from smashing my keyboard on something.

path12 · 02-07-2007, 04:04 PM

Hell, I checked post counts once this game out of curiosity. Didn't really see the harm, but I guess I'll fess up to it.

path12 · 02-07-2007, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

I felt about the same as I did when sack decided to curse at me in WW41...I pretty much barely held myself back from smashing my keyboard on something.

Well, all that would get you is a broken keyboard so you couldn't respond. Maybe a few deep breaths would be a better idea.

Blade6119 · 02-07-2007, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

Why shouldn't he have been pissed about ardent's accusation if he knew that he hadn't actually been in the thread?

Thats the thing...we cant prove if he didnt read their thread...we can prove he was involved with it, ardent has a screen shot he said. We dont know if tyrith is telling the truth.

And why shouldnt he be pissed? Maybe because he did mess with their threads, did something he himself admits to be meta-gaming(which, like whos online and all that we STRONGLY frown upon here), and then wasnt up front about it. And he did that with all 4 threads by his own admission. Why should he be pissed when hes in the wrong, whether hes lying or telling the truth?

Abe Sargent · 02-07-2007, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

I really do not mind if someone clicks on a thread on accident and then goes and takes a ten minute shit and then comes back to the thread and posts in the forum that he made a mistake. I take this as one of things:

1. An accident
2. Wolves have permission to read all threads, and Tyrith forgot to logout.

Totally didn;t think about that - great thought!

ImTheCrew · 02-07-2007, 04:09 PM

there is only one way to get rid of a wolf

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-07-2007, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

And why shouldnt he be pissed? Maybe because he did mess with their threads, did something he himself admits to be meta-gaming(which, like whos online and all that we STRONGLY frown upon here), and then wasnt up front about it. And he did that with all 4 threads by his own admission. Why should he be pissed when hes in the wrong, whether hes lying or telling the truth?

Since when is looking at post counts frowned upon?

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-07-2007, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

Hell, I checked post counts once this game out of curiosity. Didn't really see the harm, but I guess I'll fess up to it.

I've done it, too. I don't remember if I've looked at the counts of other tribes, but I know I have ours and also this main thread.

Abe Sargent · 02-07-2007, 04:12 PM

There's a guest viewing our thread right this second

Blade6119 · 02-07-2007, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

Since when is looking at post counts frowned upon?

In this game, where the GM said only deal with the common thread and your thread. Dont look it, dont read, dont do anything with other threads. If you want to post-count your tribal thread, or the common...feel free. But post-counting the threads you have explicit orders not to mess with? Come on, a 5 year old would know not to do that(no offense path and tyrith)

Tyrith · 02-07-2007, 04:13 PM

And I'm going to go ahead and man up to the way I acted in this thread. I got a little too heated in the earlier part of this and I have to apologize to AE and to everyone else playing the game. This day should never have had to deal with this and I have to take responsibility for my part in it.

Tyrith · 02-07-2007, 04:13 PM

Blade, I would choose your words very carefully there.

Abe Sargent · 02-07-2007, 04:14 PM

Appreciate that Tyrith

Abe Sargent · 02-07-2007, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by barkeep

Very Important
This game will take place over multiple threads. There will be a common thread that all players can post in, as well as threads for each specific tribe. Players will be honor bound to only check the threads that they are supposed to look at. I am placing my faith in my fellow players agreeing not to cheat. I am basing this game off of games on another board which have worked well and am hopeful that building off of the Ethics thread that people will abide by this rule in this game.

quoted for truth

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-07-2007, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

In this game, where the GM said only deal with the common thread and your thread. Dont look it, dont read, dont do anything with other threads. If you want to post-count your tribal thread, or the common...feel free. But post-counting the threads you have explicit orders not to mess with? Come on, a 5 year old would know not to do that(no offense path and tyrith)

I don't see the harm in looking at who posts the most. Do you want me to tell you the stats for Howard? Will that give you any information on any of us?

Blade6119 · 02-07-2007, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

Blade, I would choose your words very carefully there.

I chose them as i intended them, and i used them in defense of a good friend who was wrongfully attacked today.

I see you have apologized, and thats great. But i stand by my good friend ardent in this situation, even more so after you told your side of events. I wont say anymore on this matter and defer to barkeep. You will at most get scolded id imagine, but i stand by my comments.

Dont try to threaten my tyrith, with you im already on a short leash from last game.

Blade6119 · 02-07-2007, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

I don't see the harm in looking at who posts the most. Do you want me to tell you the stats for Howard? Will that give you any information on any of us?

Yes, it very well could when it comes time to find wolves. The wolves have special interest in winning or losing certain challenges. Knowing whos doing what in the PRIVATE threads could be of extreme use to both the wolves and good. They are private for a reason

Abe Sargent · 02-07-2007, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Dont try to threaten my tyrith

Damn straight, don't threaten my Tyrith!

Tyrith · 02-07-2007, 04:19 PM

Yes, you would think some things would be private, wouldn't you, blade.

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-07-2007, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Yes, it very well could when it comes time to find wolves. The wolves have special interest in winning or losing certain challenges. Knowing whos doing what in the PRIVATE threads could be of extreme use to both the wolves and good. They are private for a reason

Do you have special knowledge that the rest of us lack?

And again, the number of times someone posts doesn't mean jack. I could have a hundred posts from today saying nothing but "Time check", does that mean anything?

Blade6119 · 02-07-2007, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

Damn straight, don't threaten my Tyrith!

lol, i see how it is...even lupus is turning on me!!! WELL BRING IT, LETS SETTLE THIS IN THE PROMOTION PIT(super bowl ad reference, i loved that one)

Abe Sargent · 02-07-2007, 04:19 PM

I don;t even know what that means Tyrith

Tyrith · 02-07-2007, 04:20 PM

I actually had at least seven posts this morning that were nothing besides me trying to figure out the post timing.

Blade6119 · 02-07-2007, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

Do you have special knowledge that the rest of us lack?

The losing teams have to vote off one of their own...we had to do it yesterday. You can imagine that the wolves might wish to dicate which teams had to vote off their own, and which teams got immunity from wolf attacks(and a great reason why they werent night killed). Its fairly simple, winning/losing challenges will be a great key for the wolves.

Blade6119 · 02-07-2007, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

Yes, you would think some things would be private, wouldn't you, blade.

?? What am i missing here?

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-07-2007, 04:29 PM

For what it's worth, I did check the post count for my tribe's thread, and it had me as viewing that thread even though I was in the main forum.

Barkeep49 · 02-07-2007, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Barkeep is gone for a bit I think. But I am pretty sure I know why Ntn's counted. Ntn did not vote early, was not a second voter for his team and bolded/colored his vote.

Ntn's vote was for the 10:30 vote. So it went through and was counted. Howard got 0 points for it though since it was the 4th place vote.

Howard's 12:00 vote did not count though since they had two voters (Path & Marathoner) so that vote got DQ from both of them.

Reading the thread now, but this is the correct reason for why ntn's vote counted individually (though netting his team 0 points) and GE's did not count at all.

GoldenEagle · 02-07-2007, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Reading the thread now, but this is the correct reason for why ntn's vote counted individually (though netting his team 0 points) and GE's did not count at all.

You have a ton of reading to do.

Blade6119 · 02-07-2007, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

You have a ton of reading to do.

i somewhat filled him in via AIM, its not bad

st.cronin · 02-07-2007, 04:40 PM

I had a feeling something like this would happen.

Barkeep49 · 02-07-2007, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I think it seems fun.

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

I don't mean to be negative. I just feel like this isn't really "werewolf." It's something else which I don't think I would have signed up for.

All fair enough. It is indeed something outside of the traditional WW mainstream. I tried to come up with a variety of different challenges that go in different directions. Some are obviously going to be more successful than others. It was an experiment and when everything's been done at the end, I'll be very interested to hear if it was a success or failure.

Still reading. I've been assured that there's something interesting.

st.cronin · 02-07-2007, 04:55 PM

Tyrith's initial reaction I think was in really poor form. AE is one of my favorite FOFCers. Even if we weren't teammates, I'd have his back in this particular case.

LoneStarGirl · 02-07-2007, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

There's a guest viewing our thread right this second

Sorry, that was me. I was mad last night so i logged off and didn't log back in to see what was going on. GE called me and said check werewolf so i did before i logged back on.

Tyrith · 02-07-2007, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Tyrith's initial reaction I think was in really poor form. AE is one of my favorite FOFCers. Even if we weren't teammates, I'd have his back in this particular case.

How would you act if someone pretty much came out and decided that you should for burn for something you had no idea you had remotely come near doing?

LoneStarGirl · 02-07-2007, 05:02 PM

Damn I wish I could play so i could respond to how immature these guys are acting. And Barkeep, for what its worth, this game must have been extremely hard to put together and I appreciate all the work you did to make this enjoyable for us. I wish I could have played till the end.

Blade6119 · 02-07-2007, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

Sorry, that was me. I was mad last night so i logged off and didn't log back in to see what was going on. GE called me and said check werewolf so i did before i logged back on.

Id prefer if you didnt copy messages from our private tribal thread into the common thread....

Barkeep49 · 02-07-2007, 05:03 PM

Ok breaking out my Forum Mod color. If someone had asked me, "Is it alright if I check out the post count in another thread, I'd have thought about it and likely said OK. I don't think ANY of us knew that would show someone as in the thread itself.

So then we have a situation where
AE knows, correctly, that Tyrith is in a thread. AE, being AE, doesn't hold back and comes out blasting.
Tyrith finds himself suddenly faced with being accused of doing the one thing that everyone had agreed, not just me but several of the other players, was completely wrong. Tyrith knows he didn't cheat and is facing AE's statement somewhat bewildered, and probably a little defensively.

I'll say right now I don't like it when players go after each other personally. Clearly that happened here. I thank Tyrith for apologizing for his mistake and his reaction. I want to talk with Tyrith and AE a little via-PM before posting anything else. I do think that this serves as an important reminder to all about not letting the game get personal. Intense is great and why we play and keeping it in check is always a battle.

~Barkeep49, Your Friendly WW Mod

st.cronin · 02-07-2007, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

How would you act if someone pretty much came out and decided that you should for burn for something you had no idea you had remotely come near doing?

It's not like you didn't know you were viewing the post count. You should have manned up right away instead of getting all defensive.

I'm not saying your reaction is completely crazy, I'm just saying that I know AE a lot better than I know you, and that counts for something.

Blade6119 · 02-07-2007, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

How would you act if someone pretty much came out and decided that you should for burn for something you had no idea you had remotely come near doing?

You yourself admitted it was meta-gaming...tyrith, I'm trying to keep my cool, but your pushing it

Barkeep49 · 02-07-2007, 05:04 PM

DOLA --

So I ask discusison on this particular issue stop while I work behind the scenes.

Thanks.

Tyrith · 02-07-2007, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

It's not like you didn't know you were viewing the post count. You should have manned up right away instead of getting all defensive.

I'm not saying your reaction is completely crazy, I'm just saying that I know AE a lot better than I know you, and that counts for something.

I didn't know that the post count would have caused that :P I bet most of the people in this game wouldn't have realized it, either. That's why I didn't immediately fess up -- in fact, if I had known that I never would have been looking at post counts.

02-07-2007, 04:00 PM	#704
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02-07-2007, 04:04 PM	#711
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Hell, I checked post counts once this game out of curiosity. Didn't really see the harm, but I guess I'll fess up to it. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

02-07-2007, 04:12 PM	#718
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	There's a guest viewing our thread right this second __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

02-07-2007, 04:14 PM	#722
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Appreciate that Tyrith __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

02-07-2007, 04:19 PM	#731
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I don;t even know what that means Tyrith __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

02-07-2007, 04:00 PM	#701
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	I also have to say, if I were going to cheat, I would think I would be smarter than doing something THAT dumb when, well, this could have happened :P

02-07-2007, 04:00 PM	#702
Marathoner High School JV Join Date: Nov 2005	Nice path

02-07-2007, 04:00 PM	#706
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	dang lag EFSDSFDSFDSFDFSDSFDSFD

02-07-2007, 04:02 PM	#708
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	I wasn't messing with their thread. It was just the post count -- that didn't really seem like part of the thread to me. Yeah, like I said, probably shouldn't have been doing that either, but I've always paid far closer attention to post counts than I should. And, well, um, if we're speaking of attacks...

02-07-2007, 04:04 PM	#710
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	I felt about the same as I did when sack decided to curse at me in WW41...I pretty much barely held myself back from smashing my keyboard on something.

02-07-2007, 04:09 PM	#715
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	there is only one way to get rid of a wolf

02-07-2007, 04:13 PM	#720
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	And I'm going to go ahead and man up to the way I acted in this thread. I got a little too heated in the earlier part of this and I have to apologize to AE and to everyone else playing the game. This day should never have had to deal with this and I have to take responsibility for my part in it.

02-07-2007, 04:13 PM	#721
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Blade, I would choose your words very carefully there.

02-07-2007, 04:19 PM	#728
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Yes, you would think some things would be private, wouldn't you, blade.

02-07-2007, 04:20 PM	#732
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	I actually had at least seven posts this morning that were nothing besides me trying to figure out the post timing.

02-07-2007, 04:29 PM	#735
Jonathan Ezarik College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bossier City, LA	For what it's worth, I did check the post count for my tribe's thread, and it had me as viewing that thread even though I was in the main forum.

02-07-2007, 04:40 PM	#739
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I had a feeling something like this would happen. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

02-07-2007, 04:55 PM	#741
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Tyrith's initial reaction I think was in really poor form. AE is one of my favorite FOFCers. Even if we weren't teammates, I'd have his back in this particular case. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

02-07-2007, 05:02 PM	#744
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Damn I wish I could play so i could respond to how immature these guys are acting. And Barkeep, for what its worth, this game must have been extremely hard to put together and I appreciate all the work you did to make this enjoyable for us. I wish I could have played till the end.

02-07-2007, 05:03 PM	#746
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Ok breaking out my Forum Mod color. If someone had asked me, "Is it alright if I check out the post count in another thread, I'd have thought about it and likely said OK. I don't think ANY of us knew that would show someone as in the thread itself. So then we have a situation where AE knows, correctly, that Tyrith is in a thread. AE, being AE, doesn't hold back and comes out blasting. Tyrith finds himself suddenly faced with being accused of doing the one thing that everyone had agreed, not just me but several of the other players, was completely wrong. Tyrith knows he didn't cheat and is facing AE's statement somewhat bewildered, and probably a little defensively. I'll say right now I don't like it when players go after each other personally. Clearly that happened here. I thank Tyrith for apologizing for his mistake and his reaction. I want to talk with Tyrith and AE a little via-PM before posting anything else. I do think that this serves as an important reminder to all about not letting the game get personal. Intense is great and why we play and keeping it in check is always a battle. ~Barkeep49, Your Friendly WW Mod

02-07-2007, 05:04 PM	#749
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	DOLA -- So I ask discusison on this particular issue stop while I work behind the scenes. Thanks.

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