Lost Season 6 - The Final Season

[Samdari]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

I'm also guessing that the four new characters that were introduced last season (Miles, Lapidus, Charlotte, and Farraday) are not going to have the opportunity to get fleshed out.

They fleshed out Faraday very well and we learned as much as we need to know about Charlotte, given her limited involvement in the plot. Lapidus, I am not sure we need to know. Miles definitely would be an interesting character to explore, and some explanation of how/why he has the ability to talk to the dead might be nice.

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by Samdari

They fleshed out Faraday very well and we learned as much as we need to know about Charlotte, given her limited involvement in the plot. Lapidus, I am not sure we need to know. Miles definitely would be an interesting character to explore, and some explanation of how/why he has the ability to talk to the dead might be nice.

I thought we fleshed this out as well, Miles is Dr Chang's son and was probably born on the island (can't remember if this was talked about last season)

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Samdari

They fleshed out Faraday very well and we learned as much as we need to know about Charlotte, given her limited involvement in the plot. Lapidus, I am not sure we need to know. Miles definitely would be an interesting character to explore, and some explanation of how/why he has the ability to talk to the dead might be nice.

I don't know -- I can see your point about characters w/ limited involvement, but I think those four got enough attention to signify that that they had some type of worthy storyline.

I think/thought that there was some significance to Charlotte dying during the time warps and to the animals (in odd locations), but maybe there isn't enough time to deal with that. I think her death should be addressed (why did she die, but Miles and others did not?).

Lapidus seems like he is a crucial cast member this season, but gets little air time (especially since he is one of the more well-known actors to appear on the show). Maybe he'll get killed off in one of those "one of your favorite characters will not survive this episode!" type of shows, where he is an unimportant, important character?

Also, I did think it was a cool touch that Mikhail (sp?), the eye-patched Russian, made a return and got shot in the eye.

[TargetPractice6]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

I think/thought that there was some significance to Charlotte dying during the time warps and to the animals (in odd locations), but maybe there isn't enough time to deal with that. I think her death should be addressed (why did she die, but Miles and others did not?).

I thought both of these questions had been answered. The polar bear she excavated in the desert (which I think is what you mean by animals in odd locations) was found at the island exit point where Ben ended up after he turned the frozen wheel.

She died of the time jumps because the effect was based on duration spent on the island. She had spent the longest amount of time on the island so her symptoms were the worst and ultimately fatal. Juliet, who spent 3 years on the island, was the 2nd worst off followed by Miles, who spent a little time on the island after his birth. All of the 815ers left (Locke, Jin, Sawyer) that had only been there a few months started feeling the effects after these three.

[Easy Mac]

I loved last night's episode, but I always enjoy the Sun-Jin episodes. Plus, Sun is unbelievably beautiful. And as a new dad of a little girl, they suckered me with the digital camera.

I enjoyed this as a set everything in motion for the final push, even if nothing was shocking.

[PadresFan104]

I especially like the way Locke/MIB is setting up a nice conflict between Kate and Claire. Should be a heck of a cat fight.

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by Easy Mac

Plus, Sun is unbelievably beautiful.

+Boner

[DeToxRox]

I think this episode pretty much confirmed the Kwon in question is Jin based on the scene at the hotel check in when he was quick say he was Kwon not Paik. I think that was a big hint.

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

I think this episode pretty much confirmed the Kwon in question is Jin based on the scene at the hotel check in when he was quick say he was Kwon not Paik. I think that was a big hint.

However, Sun had the "looking at herself in the mirror" moment that the other candidates have had in the alt timeline...

[CleBrownsfan]

"son of a bitch"

[StLee]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

I think this episode pretty much confirmed the Kwon in question is Jin based on the scene at the hotel check in when he was quick say he was Kwon not Paik. I think that was a big hint.

Also, it is not part of Korean culture for a woman to take her husband's family name. She always keeps her father's family name.

[lordscarlet]

Originally Posted by TargetPractice6

I thought both of these questions had been answered. The polar bear she excavated in the desert (which I think is what you mean by animals in odd locations) was found at the island exit point where Ben ended up after he turned the frozen wheel.

Yes, but what is with the wheel and the warping to other places? Where does that fit into the whole mythology? It's another thing they threw in there but really doesn't seem to belong.

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by lordscarlet

Yes, but what is with the wheel and the warping to other places? Where does that fit into the whole mythology? It's another thing they threw in there but really doesn't seem to belong.

I think we'll find out what the deal is with the wheel.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I missed something at the end with the Tivo going out. Anyone want to spoil the last five minutes for me, since I can't find it online at the ABC site yet?

Bah - happened again and TVGorge doesn't have the episode. So - can I get a spoiler on the last five minutes? Thanks.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

Happily Ever After (Lost) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[hoopsguy]

Well, that ten word summary pretty much covers it.

No worries, I'm sure I'll find a streaming link out there somewhere that has what I'm after.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

It was much more verbose when I linked to it. YOu can see what WAS there here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...ldid=354447878

[hoopsguy]

Heh - I thought you were being snarky when I looked it up Thanks for updated link; that helps a lot as the sound quality on the link I found was pretty lousy.

[DeToxRox]

Really, really enjoyed this episode tonight. One thing I have noticed is that all the people who have died on the island we see in the alternate time line seem to know more then they let on. Really interested to see how that plays out.

[Pyser]

this was the "finally" episode.

coincidenceland is finally going somewhere. thank god.

[hoopsguy]

It sort of felt to me as if "coincidenceland" was a version of The Matrix in this episode and Desmond pursuing Penny was like Neo seeking out Trinity. Desmond (and Charlie and Daniel) know that something is fundamentally off with this reality and are trying to find their correct path, albeit in different ways. Meanwhile, Mrs. Whitmore seems to once again have the information and is scheming against Desmond.

I agree that this is the first time in awhile I've had any real interest in what they are doing with the alternate universe.

[Swaggs]

I was prepared to be let down about 30-minutes in (b/c I think the Penny-Desmond storyline has been some of the best stuff in the show), but I really like how they tied it up.

[Chubby]

I think Desmond's "sacrifice" will be him dying in one of the elctromagnetic hotspots, an "event" happening, and otherDesmond's consicousness being brought over from the other timeline.

[Swaggs]

BTW, can someone remind me what Fisher Stevens' character (George the Driver in this episode) did when he was on the show before?

I remembered him being on while I watched last night and looked it up on wiki today, and it just mentions that he was George Minkowski and Naomi talked to him on the freighter.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

He was the guy who was strapped to the bed on the freighter, flashing through time during "The Constant."

[spleen1015]

I believe he was like the communications officer on the freighter.

[Alan T]

It is funny, I think most of you all are opposite on me to do with everything about Lost. I've really enjoyed mostly every episode thus far this season (where many of you have been griping or complaining alot), but this episode didn't do a whole lot for me (but many of you are loving it now).

I think I for the most part haven't really been a huge fan of the Desmond story arcs over the various seasons, they have always felt somewhat forced in, so having more Desmond isn't really as important to me as many of the other characters in the show.

I will agree however that this is the first episode this season that I've cared anything about the sidways alternate reality storyline.

[lordscarlet]

Another great episode that didn't actually tell us anything.

I have thought for a few seasons that Desmond is the key to the whole show. I think this is reinforcing that theory at least a little bit.

[StLee]

Originally Posted by lordscarlet

Another great episode that didn't actually tell us anything.

I have thought for a few seasons that Desmond is the key to the whole show. I think this is reinforcing that theory at least a little bit.

New Jacob perhaps? It seems to be building that way. I'm ready to be shown how he suddenly gained so much knowledge.

Also, that "other" kid was creepy. I can't wait to see what comes of him.

[flounder]

Unlike a lot of people, I've been a big fan of this last season. But,

Spoiler

Ilana blowing herself up was pretty lame.

[Samdari]

Originally Posted by lordscarlet

Another great episode that didn't actually tell us anything.

I've resigned myself to the fact that there will be no answers until the finale. But, the last two episodes have been pretty damn entertaining - way better than anything else on tv (except Deadliest Catch).

[OldGiants]

Originally Posted by StLee

New Jacob perhaps? It seems to be building that way. I'm ready to be shown how he suddenly gained so much knowledge.

Also, that "other" kid was creepy. I can't wait to see what comes of him.

Since this is all about who will become the new Jacob, that looks a certainty now.

Agree about the kid, but why was UnLocke annoyed and somewhat afraid of the kid? He told Desmond to ignore him in a manner that indicated he was afraid of what would happen if Desmond starting a conversation.

The kid must be a part of the child pack that roamed around in season one. One of the kids carried a teddy bear, I remember. At one point it was implied Alex was with them, but that turned out not to be true.

[OldGiants]

Originally Posted by flounder

Unlike a lot of people, I've been a big fan of this last season. But,

Spoiler

Ilana blowing herself up was pretty lame.

I thought it was every bit as unexpected and, in its way, as stunning as what Desmond does at the end of the episode.

[Swaggs]

I think the last two episdoes have been very good.

[lordscarlet]

Originally Posted by StLee

New Jacob perhaps? It seems to be building that way. I'm ready to be shown how he suddenly gained so much knowledge.

Also, that "other" kid was creepy. I can't wait to see what comes of him.

Is Desmond's number in the lighthouse 42? They seemed to be making it blatant that it was his number at the chicken joint (for his order).

[Draft Dodger]

Originally Posted by flounder

Unlike a lot of people, I've been a big fan of this last season. But,

Ilana blowing herself up was pretty lame.

extremely. especially since they've done that gag before and especially when it's revealed a short time later that there's grenades elsewhere on the island.

seems like her character served zero purpose.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by lordscarlet

Is Desmond's number in the lighthouse 42? They seemed to be making it blatant that it was his number at the chicken joint (for his order).

42 is Kwon (either Sun or Jin) according to the list here: Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - Lost Season 6 - The Final Season

[lordscarlet]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

42 is Kwon (either Sun or Jin) according to the list here: Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - Lost Season 6 - The Final Season

OK. I said last night to my wife that I didn't think Hume was on the list. She said he was crossed off. This seems to confirm that he is not a candidate.

[Poli]

The kid must be a part of the child pack that roamed around in season one. One of the kids carried a teddy bear, I remember. At one point it was implied Alex was with them, but that turned out not to be true.

I may be way off on my Lost timeframe, but I thought the kid pack that travelled the jungle was season 2...the bear seen by Jin and Eko as they hid in the bush. I thought the bear belonged to the little boy that was taken by the Others.


I'm trying to figure out why there were "lists" used to take the tail section survivors and yet the only person ever taken from the middle section was Claire. If there were lists to take people from the tail, why not the middle, where it appears the final five candidates resided?

Were the Others directed by Jacob to take tail section survivors or was it a decision made by Ben based on information he pulled on them?

If Claire has this "evil" in her and is no longer a candidate, why is Sayid a candidate?

I apologize if these questions have been posed...I've been on my own pondering these things and staying out of the thread in case of spoilers.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Poli

I may be way off on my Lost timeframe, but I thought the kid pack that travelled the jungle was season 2...the bear seen by Jin and Eko as they hid in the bush. I thought the bear belonged to the little boy that was taken by the Others.


I'm trying to figure out why there were "lists" used to take the tail section survivors and yet the only person ever taken from the middle section was Claire. If there were lists to take people from the tail, why not the middle, where it appears the final five candidates resided?

Were the Others directed by Jacob to take tail section survivors or was it a decision made by Ben based on information he pulled on them?

If Claire has this "evil" in her and is no longer a candidate, why is Sayid a candidate?

I apologize if these questions have been posed...I've been on my own pondering these things and staying out of the thread in case of spoilers.

I really can't remember it well (or who they were), but didn't Michael have a list of names to bring back in exchange for him and Walt getting off the island? I think it was maybe Jack, Sawyer, Kate, and Hurley (but, I'm half remembering that the others told Hurley to go back home after he arrived).

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

It was Hurley, Jack, Kate and Sawyer. No Kwons or Sayid. Were any other candidates still alive then as well?

[Swaggs]

Real Locke would have still been alive.

Sayid (didn't he sail around the perimeter of the island or something and see the three-toed statue in that episode?).

Shannon may have still been around -- I can't remember.

Charlie was still around.

Nikki (although I don't think we had seen her yet) is on the list that was posted earlier, too.

[Swaggs]

Didn't someone get sent away by the Others after those four got there? Was it Locke?

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

Nah, it was Hurley. He was supposed to tell the other survivors what happened/to stay away, I think.

[Poli]

He did, but that was of a selfish nature, if I'm not mistaken. Ben wanted Jack to perform the surgery on his spine...and he knew the only way to get Jack to do so was to manipulate him with Kate and Sawyer.

The other person on the list Michael had, Hurley, was immediately released and told to warn the rest of his people not to look for them or something to that extent. I've thought about that as well.

All five of the candidates were involved one way or another in that situation. Three on the list, the other two went to rescue them on the boat.

[hoopsguy]

But Ben was calling the shots at that time and he didn't know much (if anything) about Jacob. So I don't think there is a correlation, other than the fact that the people who are Jacob's candidates are some of the most active people on the island.

[Poli]

Well, didn't Tom (that was the old big gay guy's name right?) say something to Ben about Jack along the lines of "He wasn't even on Jacob's list?"

I really need to review the older episodes again.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

Yeah, Tom said something like that.

The question I have is how much foreknowledge does Jacob have? I mean, it's looking like the setting off of the bomb is his own loophole around MiB's loophole, so you could argue that ANYTHING that happened was because of his manipulation to get everyone to that point.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Poli

Well, didn't Tom (that was the old big gay guy's name right?) say something to Ben about Jack along the lines of "He wasn't even on Jacob's list?"

I really need to review the older episodes again.

I'm with you -- other than re-watching a few days later w/ my wife, I've never even seen a rerun. So, I have definitely forgotten a lot of details along the way.

It would be interesting to see if the folks who breezed through the DVDs and have not been watching the whole time are following things better than those of us who have been watching the first-runs for the past several years.

[Poli]

I've rewatched seasons 1 and 2 in the past, but not the last 3.

The thing that puzzles me the most about those flipping lists that they had for the tailies...why wouldn't Jacob make it known to Ben (through Richard I'm assuming) to take the people who were prospective candidates on the plane to the temple right off the bat?

Maybe Jacob's idea of eliminating candidates was to allow the island to eliminate them.

I've also wondered why the MiB didn't immediately kill Eko now. Did the MiB see Eko's past and think "I can use this guy", but later realize he made a mistake? Did he use that same theory behind letting Locke live when he came upon him? What would have the MiB done with Locke had he been successful in dragging him into the ground?