OT - 2004/2005 UEFA Champions' League Predictions

[MIJB#19]

Yeah, the draw has been done, the spreadsheet is ready. It's time for the 2004/2005 UEFA Champions' League predictions competition!

To compete, reply in this thread with your 1-4 per group, I'll first post the groups, after that my own prediction in the preferred format:

Draw
Group A
Deportivo
Liverpool
Monaco
Olympiakos

Group B
Real Madrid
Roma
Bayer Leverkusen
Dynamo Kiyv

Group C
Bayern Munich
Juventus
Ajax
Maccabi Tel-Aviv

Group D
Manchester Utd
Olympique Lyonnais
Sparta Praha
Fenerbache

Group E
Arsenal
Panthaniakos
PSV Eindhoven
Rosenborg

Group F
Barcelona
Milan AC
Celtic
Shakhtar Donetsk

Group G
Valencia
Internazionale
Anderlecht
Werder Bremen

Group H
Porto
Chelsea
Paris SG
CSKA Moskva

My prediction
Group A - 1 Deportivo - 2 Liverpool - 3 Olympiakos - 4 Monaco
Group B - 1 Real Madrid - 2 Dynamo Kiyv - 3 Roma - 4 Leverkusen
Group C - 1 Ajax - 2 Juventus - 3 Bayern - 4 Mac. T-Aviv
Group D - 1 Manchester - 2 Lyon - 3 Fenerbache - 4 Sparta
Group E - 1 PSV - 2 Arsenal - 3 Rosenborg - 4 Panthaniakos
Group F - 1 Milan - 2 Barcelona - 3 Celtic - 4 Shakhtar
Group G - 1 Valencia - 2 Internazionale - 3 Werder - 4 Anderlecht
Group H - 1 Chelsea - 2 CSKA Moskva - 3 Paris SG - 4 Porto

[BreizhManu]

Group A - 1 Monaco - 2 Liverpool - 3 Deportivo - 4 Olympiakos
Group B - 1 Real Madrid - 2 Roma - 3 Leverkusen - 4 Dynamo Kiev
Group C - 1 Bayern - 2 Juventus - 3 Ajax - 4 Mac. Tel-Aviv
Group D - 1 Manchester - 2 Lyon - 3 Sparta - 4 Fenerbache
Group E - 1 Arsenal - 2 PSV - 3 Panathinaikos- 4 Rosenborg
Group F - 1 Barcelona - 2 Milan - 3 Shakhtar - 4 Celtic
Group G - 1 Valencia - 2 Werder - 3 Inter - 4 Anderlecht
Group H - 1 Chelsea - 2 Porto - 3 CSKA - 4 Paris SG

[Critch]

Group A - 1 Deportivo - 2 Liverpool - 3 Monaco - 4 Olympiakos
Group B - 1 Real Madrid - 2 Roma - 3 Leverkusen - 4 Dynamo Kiev
Group C - 1 Juventus - 2 Ajax - 3 Bayern - 4 Mac. Tel-Aviv
Group D - 1 Lyon - 2 Man Utd - 3 Sparta - 4 Fenerbache
Group E - 1 Arsenal - 2 PSV - 3 Rosenborg - 4 Pana
Group F - 1 Milan - 2 Barcelona - 3 Shakhtar - 4 Celtic
Group G - 1 Inter - 2 Valencia - 3 Anderlecht - 4 Werder Bremen
Group H - 1 Chelsea - 2 CSKA - 3 Porto - 4 Paris SG

[cartman]

Group A - 1 Deportivo - 2 Liverpool - 3 Olympiakos - 4 Monaco
Group B - 1 Real Madrid - 2 Roma - 3 Leverkusen - 4 Dynamo Kiev
Group C - 1 Bayern - 2 Juventus - 3 Ajax - 4 Mac. T-Aviv
Group D - 1 ManU - 2 Fenerbache - 3 Lyon - 4 Sparta
Group E - 1 Arsenal - 2 PSV Einhdoven - 3 Rosenborg - 4 Panthaniakos
Group F - 1 Barcelona - 2 AC Milan - 3 Celtic - 4 Shakhtar
Group G - 1 Inter - 2 Valencia - 3 Werder - 4 Anderlecht
Group H - 1 Chelsea - 2 Paris SG - 3 Porto - 4 CSKA

edited to add the PSV to Eindhoven, to placate our wooden shoe wearing friend

[fantastic flying froggies]

Group A - 1 Liverpool - 2 Deportivo - 3 Olympiakos - 4 Monaco
Group B - 1 Real Madrid - 2 Leverkusen - 3 Roma - 4 Dynamo Kiev
Group C - 1 Juventus - 2 Bayern - 3 Ajax - 4 Mac Tel Aviv
Group D - 1 Lyon - 2 Man U - 3 Sparta - 4 Fenerbache
Group E - 1 Arsenal - 2 Panathinaikos - 3 PSV - 4 Rosenborg
Group F - 1 Barcelona - 2 Milan - 3 Celtic - 4 Shakhtar
Group G - 1 Inter - 2 Anderlecht - 3 Valence - 4 Werder
Group H - 1 Chelsea - 2 PSG - 3 Porto - 4 CSKA

[rufusjonz]

Group A - 1 Deportivo 2 Liverpool 3 Monaco 4 Olympiakos
Group B - 1 Real Madrid 2 Bayern Levekusen 3 Roma 4 Dynamo Kiev
Group C - 1 Juventus 2 Ajax 3 Bayern Munich 4 Mac Tel Aviv
Group D - 1 Man U 2 Lyvon 3 Fenerbache 4 Sparta
Group E - 1 Aresenal 2 PSV 3 Pathanikos 4 Rosenborg
Group F - 1 Milan 2 Barcelona 3 Shaktar 4 Celtic
Group G - 1 Valencia 2 Inter 3 Werder 4 Anderlecht
Group H - 1 Chelsea 2 Porto 3 PSG 4 CSKA

Upsets i picked, Bayern Munich to not make it, Celtic last in group, Roma out -- i think the greek teams are up and coming, but such tough groups

[moriarty]

Group A - 1 Deportivo - 2 Liverpool 3 Olympiakos - 4 Monaco
Group B - 1 Real Madrid - 2 Leverkusen - 3 Roma - 4 Dynamo Kiev
Group C - 1 Juventus - 2 Bayern - 3 Ajax - 4 Mac Tel Aviv
Group D - 1 Man U - 2 Lyon - 3 Sparta - Fenerbache
Group E - 1 Arsenal - 2 PSV 3 - Panathinaikos - 4 Rosenborg
Group F - 1 Barcelona - 2 Milan - 3 Celtic - 4 Shakhtar
Group G - 1 Inter - 2 Anderlecht - 3 Valence - 4 Werder
Group H - 1 Chelsea - 2 Porto - 3PSG - 4 CSKA

[Desnudo]

I predict that Maccabi Tel-Aviv will not advance.

[MIJB#19]

Some notes:

* FFF is starting with a -1 penalty for having a name which is too long to fit into the spreadsheet cells, making entering the predictions into the spreadsheat a little bit more annoying.
* BreizhManu gets a -10 start, as it won't be fair to let others to enter the competition, with second place being the best they can get.
* Cartman will get no points for PSV, even if they finish second if the UEFA decides to replace PSV with the other team from Eindhoven, Eindhoven, he'll get 100 bonus points, independant on their finish in the group stages.
* Desnudo is entered with only Maccabi Tel-Aviv finishing 4th. As per the scoring rules, he will get 0 point if he's correct.


All joking aside, I failed to mention the deadline, your entry has to be posted before kickoff of the first group stage match on September 14th.

Also, edited posts won't count as entries, mistakes should be mentioned in additional posts.

[HornedFrog Purple]

Group A- 1 Deportivo - 2 Liverpool - 3 Olympiakos - 4 Monaco

Group B- 1 Roma - 2 Real Madrid - 3 Bayer Leverkusen - 4 Dynamo Kiyv

Group C- 1 Bayern Munich - 2 Juventus - 3 Ajax - 4 Maccabi Tel-Aviv

Group D- 1 Manchester Utd - 2 Sparta Praha - 3 Olympique Lyonnais - 4 Fenerbache

Group E- 1 Panthaniakos - 2 Arsenal - 3 PSV Eindhoven - 4 Rosenborg

Group F- 1 Milan AC - 2 Barcelona - 3 Celtic - 4 Shakhtar Donetsk

Group G- 1 Werder Bremen - 2 Valencia - 3 Internazionale - 4 Anderlecht

Group H- 1 Chelsea - 2 CSKA Moskva - 3 Porto - 4 Paris SG

I have no idea what are upsets.

[Katon]

Group A - 1 Deportivo - 2 Monaco- 3 Liverpool - 4 Olimpiakos
Group B - 1 Real Madrid - 2 Roma - 3 Dynamo Kyiv - 4 Leverkusen
Group C - 1 Bayern - 2 Ajax - 3 Juventus- 4 Mac. T-Aviv
Group D - 1 Manchester - 2 Lyon - 3 Fenerbache - 4 Sparta
Group E - 1 Arsenal - 2 PSV - 3 Panathanaikos - 4 Rosenborg
Group F - 1 Milan - 2 Barcelona - 3 Celtic - 4 Shakhtar
Group G - 1 Valencia - 2 Internazionale - 3 Werder - 4 Anderlecht
Group H - 1 Chelsea - 2 Porto - 3 Paris SG - 4 CSKA Moskva

[Crapshoot]

Group A - 1 Deportivo 2 Liverpool 3 Monaco 4 Olympiakos
Group B - 1 Real Madrid 2. Leverkusen 3. Roma 4. Dynamo Kieve
Group C- 1 Juventus 2 Bayern 3 Ajax 4 Mac T-Aviv.
Group D-1 Manchester Utd 2 Lyon 3. Sparta Prague 4. Fenerbache
Group E - 1 Arsenal 2 Panathanaikos 3. PSV 4. Rosenberg
Group F = 1. Milan 2 Barcelona 3 Shaktar 4 Celtic
Group G- 1 Valencia 2 Werder 3 Inter 4 Anderlecht
Group H - 1. Chelsea 2 Porto 3.CSKA Moskow 4. PSG

[MIJB#19]

10 entries so far.

[Scholes]

2nd Place last year! Back for revenge....

Group A - 1 Deportivo - 2 Monaco - 3 Liverpool - 4 Olympiakos
Group B - 1 Roma - 2 Real Madrid - 3 Leverkusen - 4 Dinamo Kiev
Group C - 1 Juventus - 2 Ajax - 3 Bayern - 4 Mac. T-Aviv
Group D - 1 Lyon - 2 Fenerbahce - 3 Man Utd - 4 Sparta
Group E - 1 Arsenal - 2 Panthaniakos - 3 PSV - 4 Rosenborg
Group F - 1 Barcelona - 2 Milan - 3 Celtic - 4 Shakhtar
Group G - 1 Inter - 2 Valencia - 3 Werder - 4 Anderlecht
Group H - 1 Chelsea - 2 Porto - 3 Paris SG - 4 CSKA

[bhlloy]

OK, I'll shoot:

Group A: 1 - Deportivo 2 - Liverpool 3 - Monaco 4 - Olimpiakos
Group B: 1 - Real 2 - Leverkusen 3 - Roma 4 - Kiev
Group C: 1 - Bayern 2 - Juventus 3 - Ajax 4 - Maccabi Haifa
Group D: 1 - Man Utd 2 - Fenerbahce 3 - Sparta 4 - Lyon
Group E: 1 - Arsenal 2 - Panathaniakos 3 - PSV 4 - Rosenborg
Group F: 1 - Milan 2 - Barcelona 3 - Celtic 4 - Shakhtar
Group G: 1 - Valencia 2 - Inter 3 - Anderlecht 4 - Bremen
Group H: 1 - Chelsea 2 - Porto 3 - CSKA 4 - PSG

[bhlloy]

EDIT: should of course be Tel Aviv and not Haifa. Damn unoriginal Israeli team names

[MIJB#19]

Little bump.
I'm not promoting this competition enough.

[Chief Rum]

Here are my picks.

Group A - 1 Deportivo - 2 Liverpool - 3 Monaco - 4 Olympiakos
Group B - 1 Real Madrid - 2 Roma - 3 Leverkusen - 4 Dinamo Kiev
Group C - 1 Bayern - 2 Juventus - 3 Ajax - 4 Mac. T-Aviv
Group D - 1 Man Utd- 2 Lyon - 3 Fenerbahce - 4 Sparta
Group E - 1 Arsenal - 2 PSV - 3 Panathanaikos - 4 Rosenborg
Group F - 1 Barcelona - 2 Milan - 3 Celtic - 4 Shakhtar
Group G - 1 Inter - 2 Valencia - 3 Werder - 4 Anderlecht
Group H - 1 Chelsea - 2 Porto - 3 Paris SG - 4 CSKA

CR

[MIJB#19]

I wish I didn't have to bump this myself for the next 7 days, starting today.

[Cards4ever]

Group A - 1 Deportivo - 2 Monaco - 3 Olympiakos - 4 Liverpool
Group B - 1 Roma - 2 Real Madrid - 3 Leverkusen - 4 Dinamo Kiev
Group C - 1 Bayern - 2 Juventus - 3 Ajax - 4 Mac. T-Aviv
Group D - 1 Man Utd- 2 Lyon - 3 Fenerbahce - 4 Sparta
Group E - 1 Arsenal - 2 PSV - 3 Panathanaikos - 4 Rosenborg
Group F - 1 Milan - 2 Celtic - 3 Barcelona - 4 Shakhtar
Group G - 1 Valencia - 2 Inter - 3 Werder - 4 Anderlecht
Group H - 1 Porto - 2 Chelsea - 3 Paris SG - 4 CSKA

[fantastic flying froggies]

Originally Posted by MIJB#19

I wish I didn't have to bump this myself for the next 7 days, starting today.

I'll help you then!

[ArlingtonColt]

I've lurked around here not posting long enough!! Here are my preds


Group A - 1 Deportivo - 2 Olympiakos - 3 Liverpool - 4 Monaco
Group B - 1 Real Madrid - 2 Roma - 3 Leverkusen - 4 Dinamo Kiev
Group C - 1 Juventus - 2 Ajax - 3 Bayern - 4 Mac. T-Aviv
Group D - 1 Man U - 2 Fenerbahce - 3 Lyon - 4 Sparta
Group E - 1 Arsenal - 2 PSV - 3 Panathanaikos - 4 Rosenborg
Group F - 1 Milan - 2 Barcelona - 3 Shakhtar - 4 Celtic
Group G - 1 Werder - 2 Inter - 3 Valencia - 4 Anderlecht
Group H - 1 Chelsea - 2 Porto - 3 Paris SG - 4 CSKA

[MIJB#19]

Originally Posted by ArlingtonColt

I've lurked around here not posting long enough!! Here are my preds


Group A - 1 Deportivo - 2 Olympiakos - 3 Liverpool - 4 Monaco
Group B - 1 Real Madrid - 2 Roma - 3 Leverkusen - 4 Dinamo Kiev
Group C - 1 Juventus - 2 Ajax - 3 Bayern - 4 Mac. T-Aviv
Group D - 1 Man U - 2 Fenerbahce - 3 Lyon - 4 Sparta
Group E - 1 Arsenal - 2 PSV - 3 Panathanaikos - 4 Rosenborg
Group F - 1 Milan - 2 Barcelona - 3 Shakhtar - 4 Celtic
Group G - 1 Werder - 2 Inter - 3 Valencia - 4 Anderlecht
Group H - 1 Chelsea - 2 Porto - 3 Paris SG - 4 CSKA

Last edited by ArlingtonColt : 09-08-2004 at 05:41 PM.

I'm not so happy about edited entries...
Shall we allow this entry? Well?

For once, I will allow it.
If the edited date and time changes, well, I can do only one thing, make you my personal FOFC slave...



And then I go back to edit this reply about stating how edited entries are supposed to be not allowed by my...

[ArlingtonColt]

sorry i just realized it was my first ever post on these forums.. you can check the time it was just a few minutes after i posted.... i didnt make any changes

[MIJB#19]

Originally Posted by ArlingtonColt

sorry i just realized it was my first ever post on these forums.. you can check the time it was just a few minutes after i posted.... i didnt make any changes

Hey, I was just kidding.

[atatange1]

Group A - 1 Deportivo - 2 Liverpool - 3 Monaco - 4 Olympiakos
Group B - 1 Real Madrid - 2 Roma - 3 Leverkusen - 4 Dynamo Kiev
Group C - 1 Juventus - 2 Bayern - 3 Ajax - 4 Mac. Tel-Aviv
Group D - 1 Man U - 2 Lyon - 3 Fenerbhace - 4 Sparta
Group E - 1 Arsenal - 2 PSV - 3 Rosenborg - 4 Panath
Group F - 1 Barca - 2 Milan - 3 Celtic - 4 Shakthar
Group G - 1 Valencia - 2 Inter - 3 Anderlecht - 4 Werder Bremen
Group H - 1 Chelsea - 2 Porto - 3 PSG - 4 CSKA

[MIJB#19]

The first round of games is coming up, in about 33 hours and 33 minutes.

[Alf]

Alf predictions


Group A - 1 Deportivo - 2 Monaco - 3 Liverpool - 4 Olympiakos
Group B - 1 Real Madrid - 2 Roma - 3 Leverkusen - 4 Dynamo Kiyv
Group C - 1 Juventus - 2 Bayern - 3 Ajax - 4 Mac. T-Aviv
Group D - 1 Manchester - 2 Lyon - 3 Fenerbache - 4 Sparta
Group E - 1 Arsenal - 2 PSV - 3 Rosenborg - 4 Panthaniakos
Group F - 1 Barcelona - 2 Milan - 3 Celtic - 4 Shakhtar
Group G - 1 Valencia - 2 Internazionale - 3 Werder - 4 Anderlecht
Group H - 1 Porto - 2 Chelsea - 3 Paris SG - 4 CSKA Moskva
Thanks Matthijs !

[MIJB#19]

Bump before bedtime.

[MIJB#19]

This will be the last bump until the deadline, probably. The first round of games will start in 9 hours and 20 minutes.

[MIJB#19]

Originally Posted by MIJB#19

This will be the last bump until the deadline, probably. The first round of games will start in 9 hours and 20 minutes.

Well, I lied.
You got another 50 minutes if you want to join.

[Desnudo]

Group A - 1 Liverpool - 2 Depo - 3 Monaco - 4 Olympiakos
Group B - 1 Leverkusen - 2 Roma - 3 Real Madrid - 4 Dynamo Kiev
Group C - 1 Juve - 2 Bayern - 3 Ajax - 4 Mac. Tel-Aviv
Group D - 1 Lyon - 2 Man U - 3 Sparta - 4 Fenerbache
Group E - 1 Arsenal - 2 PSV - 3 Panathinaikos- 4 Rosenborg
Group F - 1 Barcelona - 2 Milan - 3 Shakhtar - 4 Celtic
Group G - 1 Valencia - 2 Werder - 3 Inter - 4 Anderlecht
Group H - 1 Chelsea - 2 CSKA - 3 Porto - 4 Paris SG

Two minutes to spare by my watch.

[MIJB#19]

Writing in for the group stages is closed. Expect the scores of the first (of three) stages of the competition in a few days after the last group stage games.

[fantastic flying froggies]

bumpity bump

[BreizhManu]

hmm, didn't do quite well this year, but I think most of the others did worse than me

[MIJB#19]

I'll check the first rounds scores out later today. I've just turned my pc on for the first time since the last 8 games weere over, shouldn't take too long, if I'm willing to do it quick.

[MIJB#19]

Pt Tipper
26 moriarity
25 BreizhManu
24 Aadik
24 Desnudo
22 atatange1
22 Chief Rum
22 Critch
22 rufusjonz
21 ArlingtonColt
21 Katon
20 bhlloy
20 Cards4ever
19 Alf
18 cartman
18 fantastic flying froggies
17 HornedFrog Purple
17 Scholes
16 MIJB#19

For the record, in four groups, nobody had a perfect score of putting all 4 teams in the right order. (Group A, B, D anf G)

Best gambles:
BreizhManu - Monaco at #1
Katon - Dynamo Kiev at #3
BreizhManu and bhlloy - CSKA Moskva at #3, ahead of Paris SG at #4
Critch, fantastic flying froggies and Desnudo - Lyon at #1, ahead of Manchester United at #2
fantastic flying froggies, moriarity and ArlingtonColt - Valancia at #3

[fantastic flying froggies]

hmm, stupid noob question maybe, but is it better to have lots of points, or as little as possible ?

(in other words, did I do OK ? or do I suck at this game too???)

[Critch]

Originally Posted by Critch

Group F ......... 4 Celtic

The fact I got this pick right makes me astoundingly happy

[MIJB#19]

Originally Posted by fantastic flying froggies

hmm, stupid noob question maybe, but is it better to have lots of points, or as little as possible ?

(in other words, did I do OK ? or do I suck at this game too???)

Good question, really.

I've failed to post the traditional scoring rules as set by good ol' Kosta.

2 points for correctly picking a group winner
2 points for correctly picking a group runner up
1 point for correctly picking a top 2 team in the top 2, but at the wrong position
1 point for predicting the #3 team correctly

With a max of 5 points per group that's a max of 40 points for the round.

[fantastic flying froggies]

Matthijs, thanks for clearing that up. It is then as I thought: I suck!

[cartman]

Hey, MIJB, I don't see my score listed...

[MIJB#19]

Originally Posted by cartman

Hey, MIJB, I don't see my score listed...

Fixed, see above.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by MIJB#19

Fixed, see above.

Hmmm... After seeing my score, maybe I should have kept quiet...

[moriarty]

Wow, sweet. I'm moving to Europe ASAP so I can start putting some real money on these games.

[Desnudo]

Never doubt the ability of Ranieri to not win the big games.

[MIJB#19]

Originally Posted by moriarty

Wow, sweet. I'm moving to Europe ASAP so I can start putting some real money on these games.

Wanna switch places? I'm doing a lot better in NFL predictions.

[moriarty]

I'm sure I'll crash & burn next phase.

[Alf]

yeah, I sucked at it !

[Crapshoot]

3rd place- damn it. I thought Valencia was a sure thing- who would have thought Inter Milan could actually do something ?