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Old 04-15-2008, 01:32 PM   #2651
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just to clear it all up. The weapon Oliegirl should have is the gun. I passed her a bullet and hopefully she had the gun. That means probably a one shot kill. With the way this game is going tho, she might get arrested for killing someone....
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:33 PM   #2652
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La la la, talking to myself with 11 in the thread (9 current players)...
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:34 PM   #2653
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OR if you're both wolves, then this move to kill Path by poisoning (if it would kill him) would REALLY be a move to gain trust. Since you have the crew power, you're obviously a more valuable wolf than Path (that is, if you both happen to be wolves).

i doubt it will kill him. I just want him to suffer.

and that play doesn't make much sense. Why would Path come after me for no real reason if we were both wolves?
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:37 PM   #2654
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i feel like I am banging my head into a wall.

how does poising Path gain me trust, it only does if he is a wolf.

If I am a wolf then I know Path is a villager. As a wolf then putting that kind of unnecessary scrutiny on myself makes no sense at all. I would just poison him and let you all twist in the wind about it.

As has been stated 3 times now, all you would have to do is say "Whoops! He sure was suspicious to me!" (But that's only the case if Path is a passenger)
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:37 PM   #2655
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Here's what I have, let me know if anything is incorrect, sorry for the shorthand of names


clap (9): Lathum (2429), CR (2452), nfg22 (2454), Qwik (2455), jeheinz72 (2469), SY (2475), Olie (2491), KWhit (2494), path (2642)

Pass (4): Taz (2430), Jackal (2602), mccollins (2611), clap (2621)

No vote: Passacaglia, ntnDeacon
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:37 PM   #2656
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i doubt it will kill him. I just want him to suffer.

and that play doesn't make much sense. Why would Path come after me for no real reason if we were both wolves?

To distract us! Which you're doing a great job of with 23 minutes before deadline!
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:38 PM   #2657
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If it stays 9-4, I'm definitely not moving my vote.

I want a lynch.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:40 PM   #2658
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If we think Claph is innocent and Jackal's report was a misunderstanding, then there is no reason not to switch. We lose clap and Jackal is not really a lead ...

At least 4 of the 9 voting for Clap are reading the thread and Pass has been hanging around silently for a while now too.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:44 PM   #2659
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As has been stated 3 times now, all you would have to do is say "Whoops! He sure was suspicious to me!" (But that's only the case if Path is a passenger)

which if I was a wolf I would know he was a passanger.

Which makes that play as a wolf pointless.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:44 PM   #2660
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Unofficially: 8-4 Clap over pass

I'm NOT switching again. I'm sticking with voting off the silent Pass.


Maybe he took the drugs instead of giving them away
Did he post at all after the deadline?
or is he just being silent since it seems the votes went and sway
FYI I did receive a diary from Clap just fine.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:45 PM   #2661
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If we think Claph is innocent and Jackal's report was a misunderstanding, then there is no reason not to switch. We lose clap and Jackal is not really a lead ...

At least 4 of the 9 voting for Clap are reading the thread and Pass has been hanging around silently for a while now too.

I'm not ruling out that it was a red-herring from the get-go. I mean, if you think about it, it was potentially brilliant (see your statement about putting them both into your COT, assuming you're a passenger, which I do right now).

I'd say at this point I'm not ruling that possiblity out enough to warrant putting getting a lynch at risk. If Pass shoots up a few more, I'm more likely to switch over.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:48 PM   #2662
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Gah...I'm hesitant to move my vote if it's really still 8-4 b/c we need to lynch someone today...with only 13 minutes left I'm not sure how many other people will be switching.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:50 PM   #2663
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when was the last time NTNDeacon was even in the thread?
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:53 PM   #2664
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ntndeacon last made a post on the forums on April 10th:
http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...earchid=230354
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:53 PM   #2665
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Why would you do this? If Claphamsa's story checks out and Jackal misunderstood, then we've lost a passenger and Jackal isn't really as hot of a target as before the misunderstanding unraveled...

In case we need a certain threshold of votes.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:53 PM   #2666
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when was the last time NTNDeacon was even in the thread?


Good question. SY has been quiet too (even when it's posting time for him in Austrailia).

I have to admit, in the back of my mind I'm a touch worried that we're getting UTR'd here.

I count 6 conversation movers: path, me, lathum, clap, pass, Mcccollins
A few kinda around folks who seem busy outside of the game: Jackal, nfg, olie, CR
A few in and out folks: Taz, Kwhit, Qwik
A few who people who have all but vanished: SY, NTN
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:54 PM   #2667
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i doubt it will kill him. I just want him to suffer.


Bastard.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:57 PM   #2668
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lol
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:58 PM   #2669
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ntn is usualy quiet but this is really quiet, even by his standards.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:59 PM   #2670
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In case we need a certain threshold of votes.

I agree, but 25-30 minutes until deadline would have been plenty of time.

Now what do we do when Clap turns up as a passenger? Jackal's info was a misunderstanding. If Pass used the drugs on himself and that's why he's silent then I think that actually slightly lessens the likelihood he's a wolf.

Then we've gained nothing. I'm leaning towards Heinz's UTR thoughts as well.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:59 PM   #2671
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unvote Clap
Vote Pass
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:01 PM   #2672
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:01 PM   #2673
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Gee, I feel loved. It took only 23 hours to notice that I haven't been able to post all day, after talking about lynching and killing me? I even got called a conversation mover at the end! Anyway, here's the dealio. I really did give the drugs to PB. I crushed them into his drink, but he took off before drinking it. I got confused, and forgot which drink was his. Apparently, I'm not the brightest guy in the world, and just *had* to drink one of them, and ended up drinking his. As a result, I was knocked out, and was unable to perform any action that day, and also had been unable to post today, which was really hard to do with everyone after me!

Okay...breathe...breathe...
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:01 PM   #2674
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This is what I have for a vote count. Someone correct me if it is incorrect:

(8) claphamsa - The Jackal (2425), Chief Rum (2452), nfg22 (2454), qwikshot (2455), jeheinz72 (2469), Sonic Youth (2475), Oliegirl (2491), Kwhit (2494), path12 (2642)

(5) Passacaglia - Tazftw (2430), the jackal (2602), mccollins (2611), claphamsa, lathum (2672)
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:03 PM   #2675
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Haha, I factored that in (hence calling you a conversation mover nonetheless).

I don't know if I 100% buy it, but I figured something was up in some fashion
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:03 PM   #2676
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OK, I have an idea.

Yesterday my vote for Cronin carried extra weight and everyone got the boot.

Now that may have been a 1 time thing, I don't know. But why not try and keep the vote semi close and I'll vote for Passacaglia at the deadline.

If we keep it close enough it's possible both Pass and Clap get voted off today.

thanks for the help with this!!!

I have no idea if it will work or not.
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:03 PM   #2677
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Haha Lathum you are so shady. What's the deal with that vote switch with a minute to go?

I'm assuming it is to see what your "heavy vote" power does.
If it's 8-5 now with 15 on board, that's still over 50% for claph.
If your vote is worth 3 or 4, would it be feasible that it might be enough to knock both off?
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:04 PM   #2678
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I am starting to think there are no wolves.

except maybe Path
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:07 PM   #2679
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I am starting to think there are no wolves.

except maybe Path

I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dammit, why doesn't anyone listen?
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:07 PM   #2680
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I am starting to think there are no wolves.

except maybe Path

If there are only 3 then it would make sense for them to stay UTR until we kill enough of ourselves.
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:07 PM   #2681
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I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dammit, why doesn't anyone listen?

knew waht?
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:08 PM   #2682
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I need to take a nap, I hope AlanT hurries
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:08 PM   #2683
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Haha Lathum you are so shady. What's the deal with that vote switch with a minute to go?

I'm assuming it is to see what your "heavy vote" power does.
If it's 8-5 now with 15 on board, that's still over 50% for claph.
If your vote is worth 3 or 4, would it be feasible that it might be enough to knock both off?

I have a bad feeling the game is about to end soon.
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:09 PM   #2684
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no one should be surprised I switched since I was advocating that strategy all along
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:13 PM   #2685
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I have a bad feeling the game is about to end soon.

I would be shocked
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:15 PM   #2686
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Swap Clapham for Jackal on my suspect list.
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:18 PM   #2687
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Swap Clapham for Jackal on my suspect list.

it's good you are getting these thoughts out in the open now.

You may be spending alot of time in the bathroom over the next day.
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:22 PM   #2688
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it's good you are getting these thoughts out in the open now.

You may be spending alot of time in the bathroom over the next day.


I think it's just as likely you killed me, which is why I wanted to get it out there now......but yeah, either way I don't expect to be able to post.
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:23 PM   #2689
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In what you hope to be the final day for you in Montego Bay, the captain prepares to allow everyone to leave for the local points of interest. Just before he opens the gate, the captain stops and picks up the Microphone instead.. He announces, "Perhaps I shouldn't listen to you as close as I do... but once again enough people have come forth with some concern about one of your fellow passengers...." He looks around and then points at Claphamsa ,"Crew please see this visitor off of the ship, he no longer is welcomed here!" The crewmen walk over and escort him off of the ship. Claphamsa has been kicked off of the ship by the captain.

The captain starts undoing the chains that lock up the gates and open the doors for everyone to leave.. He stops Passacaglia as he is exiting the ship however, "Take this one off too.. I don't want him around either." Passacaglia has also been removed from the ship.

It is event response phase of turn 7. I will be sending out PMs shortly. Those with events to respond to should get their responses to me by 10pm EST tonight.
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:23 PM   #2690
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NFG put himself at the top of my suspect list by coming out and saying exactly what my item was...I'd made it very clear that I didn't want to publicize it for fear of being killed by wolves and he outed me anyway.

I don't have time right now to go back and dig through the thread, but does anyone know through vote counts, etc...to see if there has been anything shade or suspicious on his part?
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:24 PM   #2691
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Thanks assholes!
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:24 PM   #2692
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I seriously think there are no wolves.

I mean it.
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:25 PM   #2693
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Thanks assholes!

Whatever Mr. Underground! HA!
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:27 PM   #2694
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9) Passacaglia - Removed from the ship by the Captain Turn 7 - UNDERGROUND

BAM
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:27 PM   #2695
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Anyone wanna question my theory now?
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:27 PM   #2696
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Whatever Mr. Underground! HA!

Still, a little pity would have been nice. You try not posting all day, when everyone's trying to vote you off!
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:29 PM   #2697
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I think we need to look at the people who voted Pass early today.

I think that was Path and McCollins. I think they were certain Clap would be lynched and their voting on Pass was a "safe" vote that they could reference down the road after we inevetably lynched Pass.
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:30 PM   #2698
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Anyone wanna question my theory now?

What, the one where you throw the already suspect wolf under the bus to get trust?
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:31 PM   #2699
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I'm considering Jackal, Path and the UTR folks right now.

Mccollins I'm ok with. The way he reacted to a few things just didn't seem like a wolf lying in wait to me.
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:32 PM   #2700
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NFG put himself at the top of my suspect list by coming out and saying exactly what my item was...I'd made it very clear that I didn't want to publicize it for fear of being killed by wolves and he outed me anyway.

I don't have time right now to go back and dig through the thread, but does anyone know through vote counts, etc...to see if there has been anything shade or suspicious on his part?

Been very quiet, has some necklace, voted for None (RL busy on day 1), Anxiety, Swaggs, Anxiety, Claphamsa, Claphamsa.

I don't know if that adds up to super suspicious though...
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