Werewolf Small Game VI -- A Bowl of Red (GAME OVER CHEATERS WIN!) - Page 8

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-19-2007, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MollyMurphy

I don't know how the events of the evening played out, but I know he did not die when I protected him...

Do you think he was attacked? If not, why wasn't there a kill on night two?

Dr. Sak · 02-19-2007, 02:34 PM

Saying you are BG is like saying that you are the father of Anna Nicole's baby, every wants to stake a claim!

MollyMurphy · 02-19-2007, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

Do you think he was attacked? If not, why wasn't there a kill on night two?

I don't know. I was told that I hung around and nothing happened. Why all the questioning? If you are worried that I ID'd you, don't. I did not see anything...seems you are a bit nervous and trying to bully me into giving out info.

Marathoner · 02-19-2007, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bsak16

Saying you are BG is like saying that you are the father of Anna Nicole's baby, every wants to stake a claim!

I know I am out and shouldn't post, but that is hilarious.

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-19-2007, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MollyMurphy

I don't know. I was told that I hung around and nothing happened. Why all the questioning? If you are worried that I ID'd you, don't. I did not see anything...seems you are a bit nervous and trying to bully me into giving out info.

Why all the questioning? Because you are claiming to be the bodyguard, which I know is a lie.

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-19-2007, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MollyMurphy

My understanding of my role was to protect the innocent, not stop the wolves by protecting them and not allowing them to carry out their kills. That would not have crossed my mind. Seems like I would be the "almighty" if I could do that....it doubles my chances to protect someone...great if true, but I did not see anything saying that it was.

Something doesn't add up here. If it didn't cross your mind that you could hinder a wolf attack, why again did you guard CR?

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Originally Posted by MollyMurphy

On night two, I protected CR...I did not see anything, but since there was no kill, it seemed to work. I chose him b/c I thought I may be able to catch him in the act if he was a wolf.

MollyMurphy · 02-19-2007, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

Something doesn't add up here. If it didn't cross your mind that you could hinder a wolf attack, why again did you guard CR?

At the time, I believed I could do that and now I know that it is not likely. I have read through some old threads since then and realized that it was not something the bodyguard was typically able to do. That is how I thought at the time, so that is what I reflected in my thought process...sorry I was not clear. I don't always explain myself well, so that is why I have been a little quiet. I didn't want to give myself away early on and be forced to reveal my role.

Interesting that you voted for me so early....you have set me up nicely to go down in the case of a tie. Kudos to you.

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-19-2007, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MollyMurphy

At the time, I believed I could do that and now I know that it is not likely. I have read through some old threads since then and realized that it was not something the bodyguard was typically able to do. That is how I thought at the time, so that is what I reflected in my thought process...sorry I was not clear. I don't always explain myself well, so that is why I have been a little quiet. I didn't want to give myself away early on and be forced to reveal my role.

Interesting that you voted for me so early....you have set me up nicely to go down in the case of a tie. Kudos to you.

The only problem with this explanation is that you said it would not have crossed your mind. Obviously it did cross your mind if that was your reasoning for guarding CR.

path12 · 02-19-2007, 03:04 PM

Current vote totals:

Barkeep49 1 -- SnDvls(1)
Chief Rum 1 -- Barkeep49(2)
SnDvls 1 -- Chief Rum(3)
MollyMurphy 1 -- Jonathan Ezarik(4)
Jonathan Ezarik 1 -- MollyMurphy(5)

Not voted: bsak16, ntndeacon

NOTICE: My hard drive at home is acting up and I have a friend coming over to help me put a new one in this evening, so results may be late.

MollyMurphy · 02-19-2007, 03:05 PM

[quote=Jonathan Ezarik;1397505]
Night two, I guarded ntn. Since no attack occurred, I figured that I had blocked ntn from doing anything. Hence my vote on him on day three and my refusal to move my vote late.quote]

If we want to play the contradiction game, here you were convinced NTN was a wolf. You stopped him from "doing anything".

MollyMurphy · 02-19-2007, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

Why did I protect ntn? It was an educated guess. I didn't think either CR or Barkeep would get killed since there were some people questioning them (and CR tied on votes on day two with DC), so why would the wolves kill them? I tried to guess who the wolves would go after, and I figured that ntn would be a good target.

Later, your new story was that you protected him b/c you thought he was a target that needed protecting.

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-19-2007, 03:08 PM

Another thing to think about: If I'm not the bodyguard, why come out so strong after you? You didn't name anyone as a suspect, and if I was a wolf, I would have laid low and waited a couple nights to attack you.

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-19-2007, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MollyMurphy

Later, your new story was that you protected him b/c you thought he was a target that needed protecting.

How is that a contradiction? I guarded ntn because I thought he would be a good attack target. After nothing happened that night, I looked at the data at hand and came to a different conclusion. I didn't guard ntn with the intent to stop him from doing an attack or because I thought he was a wolf, but because he would make a good target.

MollyMurphy · 02-19-2007, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

Another thing to think about: If I'm not the bodyguard, why come out so strong after you? You didn't name anyone as a suspect, and if I was a wolf, I would have laid low and waited a couple nights to attack you.

because you want to get me out of the game during the lynch phase. With me out of the way you are free to kill at night and can pick us off at will.

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-19-2007, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MollyMurphy

because you want to get me out of the game during the lynch phase. With me out of the way you are free to kill at night and can pick us off at will.

It would be a one-one exchange, if this were true. You get lynched, it comes out that you're the BG, I get lynched the next day.

Or I could wait, kill someone else tonight because you are going to guard yourself tonight, and then kill you on the next night.

If I'm a wolf, I'm going with the second option there.

This is all moot anyway because I am the bodyguard while you are a wolf. And I figure either ntn or SnDvls is the other wolf and one is the Nosy Competitor.

MollyMurphy · 02-19-2007, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

It would be a one-one exchange, if this were true. You get lynched, it comes out that you're the BG, I get lynched the next day.

Or I could wait, kill someone else tonight because you are going to guard yourself tonight, and then kill you on the next night.

If I'm a wolf, I'm going with the second option there.

Except if I get lynched tonight assuming there are 2 wolves it is 4-2 with the nosy competitor who knows who the wolves are, which means as long as you don't kill the nosy competitor tonight, you win.

Seems like the right time if you ask me.

SnDvls · 02-19-2007, 05:41 PM

I'm not a wolf and not a bodyguard

unvote Barkeep
vote Jonathan Ezarik

I wanted to see where you went with your non move yesterday and now today

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-19-2007, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls

I'm not a wolf and not a bodyguard

unvote Barkeep
vote Jonathan Ezarik

I wanted to see where you went with your non move yesterday and now today

Oh? You don't want to claim to be the bodyguard, too? What was that the other day where you said you were the last good role? And how that your lynch would result in the loss for the good guys? Was that a lie?

SnDvls · 02-19-2007, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

Oh? You don't want to claim to be the bodyguard, too? What was that the other day where you said you were the last good role? And how that your lynch would result in the loss for the good guys? Was that a lie?

no it was me letting the BG know I don't need/want protection and to not out him/herself. reread the roles.

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-19-2007, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

well congrats wolves. villagers you just lost your last good role but at least you have found your wolves

I must be dense because I don't see this as a call to the BG not to guard you or out himself (although I'm not sure why you would think the BG would out himself simply because you were going to be lynched).

Since ntn and Marathoner were the two voting for you at this time and we know that Marathoner wasn't a wolf, what are your views on ntn?

Barkeep49 · 02-19-2007, 06:21 PM

Wow. Don't know who to believe. If Molly weren't Lathum's fiancee, and thus likely to be even more cunning than he, I'd never give her credit for pulling this off. However, I don't see any explanation for the reveals working except as how Jonathan laid it out.
So I'm going to go
Unvote Chief Rum
Vote Molly

path12 · 02-19-2007, 06:26 PM

Current vote totals:

MollyMurphy 2 -- Jonathan Ezarik(4), Barkeep49(7)
Jonathan Ezarik 2 -- MollyMurphy(5), SnDvls(6)
SnDvls 1 -- Chief Rum(3)

Not voted: bsak16, ntndeacon

NOTICE: My hard drive at home is acting up and I have a friend coming over to help me put a new one in this evening, so results may be late.

ntndeacon · 02-19-2007, 06:32 PM

Geez. I had not expected such an uproar today. I think I am going to have to think through this a a whileto figure out which way to go.

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-19-2007, 06:38 PM

To anyone still on the fence about voting for MM:

Read through her answers to my questions. Read #356 again. Notice how she contradicts herself and then tries to make it look like I contradicted myself.

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-19-2007, 07:27 PM

I'm about to leave and will probably not be back before deadline. I'm not surprised with how the voting has fallen out so far. I fully expect ntn to vote for me as well. I do find it rather telling that he's going to wait to cast that vote. That means it's up to either CR or bsak to keep us in this game.

Again, read MM's answers to my questions. She's not the bodyguard.

Dr. Sak · 02-19-2007, 08:35 PM

My first instinct was to vote for Chief Rum but I think if he is not a wolf the wolves will get him real soon. Rereading the latest posts makes it easy to vote the following

VOTE MOLLYMURPHY

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-19-2007, 08:35 PM

My plans changed, so I'm back.

MollyMurphy · 02-19-2007, 08:40 PM

bsak, you realize if I am lynched tonight the villagers lose the game

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-19-2007, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MollyMurphy

bsak, you realize if I am lynched tonight the villagers lose the game

Nice try, MM. And you can tell ntn to go ahead and vote. He's making it quite obvious that he's waiting to swoop in at the last minute and cast his vote.

MollyMurphy · 02-19-2007, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

Nice try, MM. And you can tell ntn to go ahead and vote. He's making it quite obvious that he's waiting to swoop in at the last minute and cast his vote.

nice last push. It is obvious barkeep is the sorcerer and him and JE have gotten one over on us,

bsak, I don't know what else I can tell you except you are making a mistake

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-19-2007, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MollyMurphy

nice last push. It is obvious barkeep is the sorcerer and him and JE have gotten one over on us,

bsak, I don't know what else I can tell you except you are making a mistake

You keep trying, but it's not working. Kind of like your answers to my questions earlier. You still haven't explained why you would never think that you could block a wolf attack, and yet at the same time have that as your reasoning behind "guarding" CR.

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-19-2007, 08:52 PM

Go ahead and vote, ntn. What are you waiting for?

ntndeacon · 02-19-2007, 08:57 PM

well I just got in for one thing JE. That is the Main reason.

MollyMurphy · 02-19-2007, 08:59 PM

UNVOTE JONATHAN
VOTE SNDVLS

ntndeacon · 02-19-2007, 08:59 PM

Vote SnDvls

ntndeacon · 02-19-2007, 09:00 PM

I sing on monday night. We practised the Martin Laurendsen piece Lux Aeterna. it is a beautiful piece

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-19-2007, 09:00 PM

Well played, wolves.

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-19-2007, 09:00 PM

Too bad CR wasn't around to change his vote.

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-19-2007, 09:01 PM

Of course, it'd be funny if I was right about SnDvls and he was the Nosy Competitor.

SnDvls · 02-19-2007, 09:19 PM

at least you know where they are now

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-19-2007, 09:53 PM

Doesn't matter if you're the hunter. You're gone and I'll be dead tonight. That'll leave five players. Two wolves and the sorcerer. Then can then vote out whomever they want tomorrow and game ends.

You should have listened to me.

path12 · 02-19-2007, 09:54 PM

Results in a minute. Bear with me, I'm on a Mac and I don't know where the hell anything is. No recipe today I'm afraid.

path12 · 02-19-2007, 10:00 PM

Final vote totals:

SnDvls 3 -- Chief Rum(3), MollyMurphy(9), ntndeacon(10)
MollyMurphy 3 -- Jonathan Ezarik(4), Barkeep49(7), bsak16(8)
Jonathan Ezarik 1 -- SnDvls(6)

My roster/flavor info is unavailable for the moment, so we will suffice to say that SnDvls, the veteran competitor, has been eliminated.

NIGHT ACTIONS DUE 10AM EASTERN TOMORROW.

SnDvls · 02-19-2007, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

You should have listened to me.

the other day this applies to you too

Barkeep49 · 02-19-2007, 10:15 PM

That seemed pretty obvious. I think that ntn really copped out by not following through on the Molly/JE gambit. What a disappointment.

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-19-2007, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnDvls

the other day this applies to you too

path12 · 02-20-2007, 10:22 AM

DALMATIAN FIREHOUSE CHILI

 1/2 pound beef suet
 2 pounds ground round
 3 tablespoons garlic, minced
 1/4 cup hot chile powder
 2 tablespoons hot paprika
 1 tablespoon kosher salt
 1/2 tablespoon freshly ground white pepper
 1/2 teaspoon cumin seed
 1 tablespoon crushed red chiles
 4 cups water
 6 cups canned kidney beans, drained
Heat suet in a dutch oven, over a medium-low flame. Heat and stir until partially rendered and lightly browned. Add beef, garlic, chile powder, paprika, salt, pepper, cumin, and red pepper flakes. Heat and stir for 8-10 minutes to brown beef. Reduce heat, cover, and simmer for 2 hours. Add water, cover, and simmer for 90 minutes, stirring often add beans and simmer, uncovered, for 15-30 minutes. Serve hot. Serves 8.

-------------------------------------------------

Huck Ledderman was a man who could fix anything. Cars, radios, wiring, whatever -- he could take it apart and put it back together good as new. He'd spent months perfecting his Firehouse Chili recipe and like everything else in his life, it was finely tuned.

That is, until the judges came by and discovered it had been spiked with an entire bottle of curry powder.

Jonathan Ezarik, the Guard, has been eliminated.

DAY 5 ACTIONS DUE 10PM EASTERN.

MollyMurphy · 02-20-2007, 10:22 AM

VOTE JE

MollyMurphy · 02-20-2007, 10:22 AM

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-20-2007, 10:23 AM

Game over.

02-19-2007, 03:04 PM	#359
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Current vote totals: Barkeep49 1 -- SnDvls(1) Chief Rum 1 -- Barkeep49(2) SnDvls 1 -- Chief Rum(3) MollyMurphy 1 -- Jonathan Ezarik(4) Jonathan Ezarik 1 -- MollyMurphy(5) Not voted: bsak16, ntndeacon NOTICE: My hard drive at home is acting up and I have a friend coming over to help me put a new one in this evening, so results may be late. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia. Last edited by path12 : 02-19-2007 at 03:06 PM.

02-19-2007, 06:26 PM	#372
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Current vote totals: MollyMurphy 2 -- Jonathan Ezarik(4), Barkeep49(7) Jonathan Ezarik 2 -- MollyMurphy(5), SnDvls(6) SnDvls 1 -- Chief Rum(3) Not voted: bsak16, ntndeacon NOTICE: My hard drive at home is acting up and I have a friend coming over to help me put a new one in this evening, so results may be late. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

02-19-2007, 09:54 PM	#392
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Results in a minute. Bear with me, I'm on a Mac and I don't know where the hell anything is. No recipe today I'm afraid. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

02-19-2007, 10:00 PM	#393
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Final vote totals: SnDvls 3 -- Chief Rum(3), MollyMurphy(9), ntndeacon(10) MollyMurphy 3 -- Jonathan Ezarik(4), Barkeep49(7), bsak16(8) Jonathan Ezarik 1 -- SnDvls(6) My roster/flavor info is unavailable for the moment, so we will suffice to say that SnDvls, the veteran competitor, has been eliminated. NIGHT ACTIONS DUE 10AM EASTERN TOMORROW. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

02-20-2007, 10:22 AM	#397
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	DALMATIAN FIREHOUSE CHILI  1/2 pound beef suet  2 pounds ground round  3 tablespoons garlic, minced  1/4 cup hot chile powder  2 tablespoons hot paprika  1 tablespoon kosher salt  1/2 tablespoon freshly ground white pepper  1/2 teaspoon cumin seed  1 tablespoon crushed red chiles  4 cups water  6 cups canned kidney beans, drained Heat suet in a dutch oven, over a medium-low flame. Heat and stir until partially rendered and lightly browned. Add beef, garlic, chile powder, paprika, salt, pepper, cumin, and red pepper flakes. Heat and stir for 8-10 minutes to brown beef. Reduce heat, cover, and simmer for 2 hours. Add water, cover, and simmer for 90 minutes, stirring often add beans and simmer, uncovered, for 15-30 minutes. Serve hot. Serves 8. ------------------------------------------------- Huck Ledderman was a man who could fix anything. Cars, radios, wiring, whatever -- he could take it apart and put it back together good as new. He'd spent months perfecting his Firehouse Chili recipe and like everything else in his life, it was finely tuned. That is, until the judges came by and discovered it had been spiked with an entire bottle of curry powder. Jonathan Ezarik, the Guard, has been eliminated. DAY 5 ACTIONS DUE 10PM EASTERN. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia. Last edited by path12 : 02-20-2007 at 10:22 AM.

02-19-2007, 02:34 PM	#352
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Saying you are BG is like saying that you are the father of Anna Nicole's baby, every wants to stake a claim!

02-19-2007, 03:05 PM	#360
MollyMurphy Mascot Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Seattle	[quote=Jonathan Ezarik;1397505] Night two, I guarded ntn. Since no attack occurred, I figured that I had blocked ntn from doing anything. Hence my vote on him on day three and my refusal to move my vote late.quote] If we want to play the contradiction game, here you were convinced NTN was a wolf. You stopped him from "doing anything".

02-19-2007, 03:08 PM	#362
Jonathan Ezarik College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bossier City, LA	Another thing to think about: If I'm not the bodyguard, why come out so strong after you? You didn't name anyone as a suspect, and if I was a wolf, I would have laid low and waited a couple nights to attack you.

02-19-2007, 05:41 PM	#367
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	I'm not a wolf and not a bodyguard unvote Barkeep vote Jonathan Ezarik I wanted to see where you went with your non move yesterday and now today

02-19-2007, 06:21 PM	#371
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Wow. Don't know who to believe. If Molly weren't Lathum's fiancee, and thus likely to be even more cunning than he, I'd never give her credit for pulling this off. However, I don't see any explanation for the reveals working except as how Jonathan laid it out. So I'm going to go Unvote Chief Rum Vote Molly

02-19-2007, 06:32 PM	#373
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	Geez. I had not expected such an uproar today. I think I am going to have to think through this a a whileto figure out which way to go.

02-19-2007, 06:38 PM	#374
Jonathan Ezarik College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bossier City, LA	To anyone still on the fence about voting for MM: Read through her answers to my questions. Read #356 again. Notice how she contradicts herself and then tries to make it look like I contradicted myself.

02-19-2007, 07:27 PM	#375
Jonathan Ezarik College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bossier City, LA	I'm about to leave and will probably not be back before deadline. I'm not surprised with how the voting has fallen out so far. I fully expect ntn to vote for me as well. I do find it rather telling that he's going to wait to cast that vote. That means it's up to either CR or bsak to keep us in this game. Again, read MM's answers to my questions. She's not the bodyguard.

02-19-2007, 08:35 PM	#376
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	My first instinct was to vote for Chief Rum but I think if he is not a wolf the wolves will get him real soon. Rereading the latest posts makes it easy to vote the following VOTE MOLLYMURPHY

02-19-2007, 08:35 PM	#377
Jonathan Ezarik College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bossier City, LA	My plans changed, so I'm back.

02-19-2007, 08:40 PM	#378
MollyMurphy Mascot Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Seattle	bsak, you realize if I am lynched tonight the villagers lose the game

02-19-2007, 08:52 PM	#382
Jonathan Ezarik College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bossier City, LA	Go ahead and vote, ntn. What are you waiting for?

02-19-2007, 08:57 PM	#383
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	well I just got in for one thing JE. That is the Main reason.

02-19-2007, 08:59 PM	#384
MollyMurphy Mascot Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Seattle	UNVOTE JONATHAN VOTE SNDVLS

02-19-2007, 08:59 PM	#385
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	Vote SnDvls

02-19-2007, 09:00 PM	#386
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	I sing on monday night. We practised the Martin Laurendsen piece Lux Aeterna. it is a beautiful piece

02-19-2007, 09:00 PM	#387
Jonathan Ezarik College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bossier City, LA	Well played, wolves.

02-19-2007, 09:00 PM	#388
Jonathan Ezarik College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bossier City, LA	Too bad CR wasn't around to change his vote.

02-19-2007, 09:01 PM	#389
Jonathan Ezarik College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bossier City, LA	Of course, it'd be funny if I was right about SnDvls and he was the Nosy Competitor.

02-19-2007, 09:19 PM	#390
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	at least you know where they are now

02-19-2007, 09:53 PM	#391
Jonathan Ezarik College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bossier City, LA	Doesn't matter if you're the hunter. You're gone and I'll be dead tonight. That'll leave five players. Two wolves and the sorcerer. Then can then vote out whomever they want tomorrow and game ends. You should have listened to me.

02-19-2007, 10:15 PM	#395
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	That seemed pretty obvious. I think that ntn really copped out by not following through on the Molly/JE gambit. What a disappointment.

02-20-2007, 10:22 AM	#398
MollyMurphy Mascot Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Seattle	VOTE JE

02-20-2007, 10:22 AM	#399
MollyMurphy Mascot Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Seattle	oops

02-20-2007, 10:23 AM	#400
Jonathan Ezarik College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bossier City, LA	Game over.

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