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Old 04-26-2013, 08:06 AM   #601
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Kind of expected but a bit of a shame really. Good work though JAG - you (probably) removed a night kill which is a big deal for the village. And I don't know if the wolfies will have the nerve to take another swing at you (although it could be a different team).
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:08 AM   #602
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I'd like to point out I originally WAS voting on DV yesterday. By late afternoon, I was still the only person to have a vote on him, and the only candidates with multiple votes were InBlue and Brit. I figured at that point it'd be better to force a tie and see if anything happened.

Correction, not InBlue at that point, DT. Who had a wholllle lotta people clear off him to move to InBlue later in the day.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:08 AM   #603
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I'd like to point out I originally WAS voting on DV yesterday. By late afternoon, I was still the only person to have a vote on him, and the only candidates with multiple votes were InBlue and Brit. I figured at that point it'd be better to force a tie and see if anything happened.

The main point is that you claimed to be suspicious of DT but never actually voted him despite having a good opportunity to do so (DT was 4 Brit was 3). You choose to tie things up on Brit rather than put your vote on DT.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:12 AM   #604
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The main point is that you claimed to be suspicious of DT but never actually voted him despite having a good opportunity to do so (DT was 4 Brit was 3). You choose to tie things up on Brit rather than put your vote on DT.

Yeah, and those "lets see what happens" votes are a big favorite of wolves, who generally know people's allegiances (although this game throws a little wrinkle into that analysis).
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:14 AM   #605
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If I come up with analysis and then the vote is between someone I'm suspicious of and a.n.other then I vote for the person I'm suspicious of, even if it pushes them 2 in front, rather than tying things up.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:17 AM   #606
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And I did a let's see what happens vote twice yesterday, too, when I shifted to InBlue! Double the suspicion!

Frankly, I don't have enough to work with for my usual means of analysis to function real well right now. It's narrowed my view down to DT and DV as potentials (for what it's worth, a quick look at the vote spread after last night shows me DT is my priority 1 today). Usually by this time we have a cleared person or two, and/or a few more dead people. Not so in this game.

My only other option has been to fuck around with the votes and hope something interesting happens. Hell, voting InBlue over Brit last night cost me money. So I have.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:18 AM   #607
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Another morning in Atlantic City. The money is waiting in the casino, people are out and ready for action. You're almost relieved to find a story in the paper this morning, makes you seem less paranoid.

There was a savage beating last night on the boardwalk. Murrayyyyy was found in serious condition in a ditch. He will be unable to vote or make any bids today but is expected to recover.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:19 AM   #608
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Day Four has begun. Betting is closed. Services will be listed shortly.

I am considering having Night Four last until Saturday evening and then begin the next day on Sunday? Or should we simply have night last through Sunday?
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:19 AM   #609
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And let me be the first to point out another example of making it ungodly hard for me to analyze votes. Entirely possible murray is an opposite member mafia, so we can pretty much read nothing into that.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:20 AM   #610
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No night kill again? Good grief.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:24 AM   #611
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Wow, this is an epic game for lack of night kills.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:26 AM   #612
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No point sitting on this as I'm not going to be here much longer. I got the seer and scanned Darth Vilus last night and he's clear. Didn't go with DT or Brit because I figured there was a decent chance that they would come up wolf whatever their actual allegiance was. So I went with the person with the least posts up to this point. As far as I can see there's no way for DV to be anything but villager so that puts someone at the top of my trust list.

I feel like we're currently riding our luck with the night kills here and need to hit a wolf today. But you'll all have to sort that out. I suggest you listen to JAG and Jackal today. I would like to say DV as well but he doesn't have much to say.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:27 AM   #613
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My scan-success story continues.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:29 AM   #614
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Zinto, whenever you show up, can you reveal the last two digits of the prize money from the bet you won?
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:30 AM   #615
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Good job Narc, I actually bet DV today because I figured he had a good chance to be a wolf. So much for that.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:31 AM   #616
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Didn't go with DT or Brit because I figured there was a decent chance that they would come up wolf whatever their actual allegiance was.

What?
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:33 AM   #617
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So murra5y is the only unknown that voted me D1 with that information, assuming the other scans are accurate. Does anyone want to claim credit for the beating of murrayyyyy or any other services at this time?
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:33 AM   #618
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Frankly, I don't have enough to work with for my usual means of analysis to function real well right now. It's narrowed my view down to DT and DV as potentials (for what it's worth, a quick look at the vote spread after last night shows me DT is my priority 1 today). Usually by this time we have a cleared person or two, and/or a few more dead people. Not so in this game.

I disagree - there are usually few cleared people in a normal game. At this stage, from your point of view, you've got Jackal and Jag who are as cleared as anyone can be in a normal game with a cunning role (ie not 100% clear but cleared enough to work with for the time being). Of course, as I know I'm villager I know that DV is 100% cleared.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:33 AM   #619
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What?

What it says.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:34 AM   #620
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What?

The crooked cop. Read the description, it looks like he can make a player scan as mafia even if they aren't.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:36 AM   #621
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DAY ONE WINNING BIDS
Mick "Stones" McGee - $0
Donna Black Investigations - $1000 - Claimed by Chief Rum, cleared JAG
Cookie's Ladies - $277 - Claimed by JAG, used on Brit
Sandy Back Messenger Service - $0
Casino2Casino Wire Transfer - $27 - Claimed by mauchow

BLACKMARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK
The Money Hole - $402 - Claimed by ?
Joe "Creaky" Reitzler - $350 - Claimed by Jackal used on fontisian


DAY TWO WINNING BIDS
Mick "Stones" McGee - $800 - Claimed by JAG, used on self
Donna Black Investigations - $1100 Claimed by Zinto, cleared Jackal
Cookie's Ladies - $0
Sandy Back Messenger Service - $0
Casino2Casino Wire Transfer - $0
Eternity Investments - $0
Freddie von Maur, Casino Manager - $160 Claimed by ?

BLACKMARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK
The Money Hole - $0
Joe "Creaky" Reitzler - $1000 Claimed by ?
"Smiling Jane" Smith - $0
Jameson Gundy, DA - $0


DAY THREE WINNING BIDS
Mick "Stones" McGee - $380
Donna Black Investigations - $1,000 Claimed by Narcizo, cleared DV
Cookie's Ladies - $350
Sandy Back Messenger Service - $0
Casino2Casino Wire Transfer - $0
Friends4Life Dating Service - $1,000

BLACKMARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK
The Money Hole - $500
Joe "Creaky" Reitzler, hitman - $1,100
"Stumpy" Jones, thug - $111
Trayvon Michaels, crooked cop - $2
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:37 AM   #622
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There are many valuable services here in the seaside city. Please place your bids by 9 pm EST.

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DAY FOUR SERVICES FOR HIRE
Mick "Stones" McGee - Hired muscle for the guy who wants some protection
Donna Black Investigations - When you need somebody checked out
Cookie's Ladies - Send somebody a "friend" to entertain them through the night
Sandy Back Messenger Service - When you need to send a message fast
Casino2Casino Wire Transfer - When you want to send a buck to a friend
Eternity Investments - Put some money away for a rainy day
Freddie von Maur, Casino Manager - having a friend in the House pays off
Mrs. Stevens, Banking Accounts Manager - perhaps a quick peek at someone's account couldn't hurt

BLACKMARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK
The Money Hole - money lending for the desperate gambler
Joe "Creaky" Reitzler, hitman - they say that Creaky will make a guy disappear for you
"Smiling Jane" Smith, thief - her light fingers will dip in someone's wallet for you
Jamie Monteray, hitman - A professional killer not afraid to make any hit
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:37 AM   #623
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If a villager won the NK or BG, they probably ought to reveal their info.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:39 AM   #624
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AWOOGA! Paranoia-twinge alert about JAG and Chief being wolves.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:40 AM   #625
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The crooked cop. Read the description, it looks like he can make a player scan as mafia even if they aren't.

Thanks. Didn't see that.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:41 AM   #626
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AWOOGA! Paranoia-twinge alert about JAG and Chief being wolves.

What about me? Aren't I still special? Don't I still hold a place in your heart?

Anyway. Explain.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:41 AM   #627
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That will be all.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:42 AM   #628
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It's Friday - I ALWAYS get some unlikely notion in my head and it starts to become more and more real to me. But I think we're good.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:43 AM   #629
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You're killin' me smalls.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:43 AM   #630
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AWOOGA! Paranoia-twinge alert about JAG and Chief being wolves.

I was wondering about Chief too, but I don't think there's value going there at this point. I'm going to focus on people who supposedly haven't won any bids as we have quite a few unaccounted for services.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:45 AM   #631
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If a villager won the NK or BG, they probably ought to reveal their info.

Actually I really think it would be worth everyone revealing what services they have purchased, as I pointed out before. I can think of one service that possibly you might not want to share but otherwise yeah.

Cookie's Ladies were working last night for example.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:50 AM   #632
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I REALLY don't. I don't want to tell the wolves who has money and who doesn't.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:50 AM   #633
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And like I said, if the mob all went with Black Market options then there is AT MOST one mob using the other services, and that information should really help with circle of trust based things.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:53 AM   #634
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I REALLY don't. I don't want to tell the wolves who has money and who doesn't.

What's more important to you? Stopping the wolves from hitting the money or finding the wolves?

I haven't won a bet and I still got the seer. The wolves are going to have to decide if they chase the money or the circle of trust. If I was a wolf I'd go with the circle of trust everytime.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:56 AM   #635
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Anyway - I've gots to go. I have more than half a mind to vote Coffee but I'll stick with

Vote Danny Torgo
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:56 AM   #636
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Danny Torgo?

Vote DaddyTorgo
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:03 AM   #637
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Reason for dt narc?
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:06 AM   #638
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I've got $623 left.
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:12 AM   #639
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Gracias to whoever sent the lovely lady my way. I had no plans, but it was nice to get some action.
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:15 AM   #640
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Trust based on the way the bidding has gone:
Chief Rum
Danny


Why Danny here?
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:17 AM   #641
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Reason for dt narc?

What I said yesterday when I switched my vote to him - plus question marks raised with the way voting went down.
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:20 AM   #642
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I haven't won a bet and I still got the seer.

That didn't come out, well, truthfully basically. I meant I might not have won a bet and I still could have won the seer. Probably doesn't do to withhold info if you're preaching maximum reveal. I have won a bet.
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:25 AM   #643
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So the hitman has been purchased every night and there haven't been any kills?

There's gotta be a catch with that guy, right?
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:28 AM   #644
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Gracias to whoever sent the lovely lady my way. I had no plans, but it was nice to get some action.

You're welcome. And that's one opinion that you weren't up to anything.. no night kill yet again means somethin happened. As of right now as one of my scenarios, places u and narcizo on the same team...hence his quick vote for you this morning.. *shrug* we'll find out soon enough I imagine.
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:31 AM   #645
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VOTE DADDY TORGO

I think we most need to know what he is.
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:38 AM   #646
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Gracias to whoever sent the lovely lady my way. I had no plans, but it was nice to get some action.

What service did you bid on yesterday?
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:45 AM   #647
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You're welcome. And that's one opinion that you weren't up to anything.. no night kill yet again means somethin happened. As of right now as one of my scenarios, places u and narcizo on the same team...hence his quick vote for you this morning.. *shrug* we'll find out soon enough I imagine.

We know he didn't use the seer or thug because we have evidence those were used.

Speaking of the thug, murrayyyyy is an interesting choice of thug target.
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:47 AM   #648
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Path, what have you bid on?
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:52 AM   #649
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Speaking of the thug, murrayyyyy is an interesting choice of thug target.


I'm not to pleased about it... I've gone back and tried to look at who I said something about in the game because I don't think it's on my voting pattern. Didn't win a bid last night then wake up to see this.

Doesn't matter to me if we play Sat or Sun autumn. Can't do a thing today anyways. lol. I had Zinto and Brit as my night bets tonight for what it's worth. Zinto hasn't said much and Brit's been in the voting for two days and survived. Can't be any worse than my other bets.

Best of luck guys.
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:54 AM   #650
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Before I get asked by JAG, I went $300 on money hole since I hadn't won a night bet yet hoping to get some money that way.
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