TCY Groupthink - North Carolina State Wolfpack

[CraigSca]

Per Quik's great idea, I unveil the lastest FOFC Groupthink - TCY Style!

Head Coach - Craigsca
Offensive Coordinator - Ravenshawk
Defensive Coordinator - MikeVick
Recruiting Coordinator - Vexroid
QB coach/scout -
Backs coach/scout -
Receivers coach/scout -
OL coach/scout -
DL coach/scout - Quiksand
LB coach/scout -
DB coach/scout -
Special Teams coach/scout -
Scouting Team (scouts the upcoming opponent):

Next on waiting list: No one

We have a number of things to work out:

Do we have regional recruiters, or just our 2 coordinators?
Which type of team do we want? Bad team in a good conference (my personal fave)? Good team/good conf? Bad team/bad conf? Let's determine the type of team first, then we can determine the actual team.
Playoffs or bowls? (no preference here)
Any house rules? (1 visit, 1 phone call per week per recruit? No scholarship offer until 1 week after initial visit?)

Btw, I will be running a CLEAN program here. We will not be bribing people to come to our illustrious school.

Input, please!

[Huckleberry]

What about splitting the RC's jobs up in terms of in-state vs. out-of-state recruits? Just a thought if we're going to have two.

[JeeberD]

You guys have got to run UTEP. You just got to...

[Coffee Warlord]

UNLV! Let's debauch and run a college team at the same time!

[QuikSand]

I have no particular preference in terms of schools -- using a Sol-8 school has the drawback of seeing the players get mislabeled when explorting to FOF, if that's an issue for us, so I think that's probably not our best option.

[albionmoonlight]

When you are picking a team, don't forget to consider where the Sol 8 will be (in your state, banished to Alaska, or something in between)? Should it have flavor (be renamed to be the Ivy League, etc.) or be ignored?

[Balldog]

Originally Posted by CraigSca

Btw, I will be running a CLEAN program here. We will not be bribing people to come to our illustrious school.

Screw this, I quit. j/k

I prefer Bowl Games, just because it is realistic. Even though I think the NCAA Bowl systems sucks ass.

How is UConn compared to the other Big East schools to start with?

[sachmo71]

Harvard!

[Ben E Lou]

We could always try N.C. State, as I mentioned in another thread...

[Huckleberry]

I vote for Texas.

[Coffee Warlord]

Air Force?

[Huckleberry]

I actually thought of Air Force. If it were purely my choice, I would go with the Falcons.

[Coffee Warlord]

AF gives us the added bonus of getting to beat up on Colorado State every year. Must kill CSU!

[Huckleberry]

Although I really wish that the academies had unlimited scholarships. You know, we could just let in all the players over the limit on commissions into the academy. wink, wink.

[WSUCougar]

Air Force would be very cool.

[Ben E Lou]

I'd be concerned about degree of difficult (or lack thereof, more accurately) with Air Force. Utah usually does well, but the rest in their conference are mediocre or worse. Without some fairly stringent house rules, I'd fear we'll be winning all non-Utah conference games by 30 points after a while.

[MikeVick7]

Kansas? Vanderbilt? Northwestern?

[Raven Hawk]

I like the idea of NC State as mentioned by The Dark Jedi in another post. With a group think, I don't want our challenge to be easy. NC State provides a good challenge for recruiting players as well as a tough division.

Wolfpack gets my vote.

[MikeVick7]

NC State...in my Duke dynasty...is actually a pretty decent team. We would definitely be over .500 in year one. Do we want a worse team? Or is this what we're looking for?

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by MikeVick7

NC State...in my Duke dynasty...is actually a pretty decent team. We would definitely be over .500 in year one. Do we want a worse team? Or is this what we're looking for?

Was your Duke dynasty with 1.3? In 1.3 they have to play Ohio State, Miami (FL), FSU, Va. Tech, Maryland and Tech in year 1. Hard to say "definitely over .500" with those guys on the schedule.

[mckerney]

I'm interested in taking the special teams tasks if it's not filled.

[Coffee Warlord]

Upon considering, I'm pulling for any not very good team in a conference that has a championship game ('just for more games/fun)

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Upon considering, I'm pulling for any not very good team in a conference that has a championship game ('just for more games/fun)

Baylor.

[JeeberD]

Can I be your punter's coach, MC?

[Raven Hawk]

I'd prefer not to start with a scrub team, especially if we are playing at All-Star level, which we should be. Group thinks tend to take more time than a dynasty that you are running on your own. I'm not quite sure what our goals would be as far as completing seasons, considering we want input from all of our coaches.

With that said, we'd be spending a lot of real time at the bottom, even if it wouldn't be a lot of game time.

[MikeVick7]

Originally Posted by SkyDog

Was your Duke dynasty with 1.3? In 1.3 they have to play Ohio State, Miami (FL), FSU, Va. Tech, Maryland and Tech in year 1. Hard to say "definitely over .500" with those guys on the schedule.

That is an excellent point. No mine was on an older version. But we'll definitely have some talent to work with. So we won't look as bad a coaching staff.

[Balldog]

BCS Conferences and Prestige (for your viewing pleasure)

Team			Conf	Prestige
Miami of Florida	ACC	97
Florida State		ACC	96
Virginia Tech		ACC	86
Clemson			ACC	85
Maryland		ACC	82
Georgia Tech		ACC	80
North Carolina State	ACC	80
Virginia		ACC	79
Wake Forest		ACC	72
North Carolina		ACC	71
Duke			ACC	66

Michigan		B10	97
Ohio State		B10	94
Penn State		B10	88
Wisconsin		B10	86
Iowa			B10	83
Purdue			B10	83
Michigan State		B10	81
Illinois		B10	79
Minnesota		B10	77
Northwestern		B10	72
Indiana			B10	70

Oklahoma		B12	97
Nebraska		B12	92
Texas			B12	92
Kansas State		B12	85
Texas A&M		B12	85
Colorado		B12	81
Texas Tech		B12	77
Iowa State		B12	75
Missouri		B12	75
Oklahoma State		B12	75
Baylor			B12	67
Kansas			B12	66


Boston College		BEA	79
Pittsburgh		BEA	78
Syracuse		BEA	77
West Virginia		BEA	76
Temple			BEA	66
Connecticut		BEA	66
Rutgers			BEA	64

South Bend		IND	87

Southern California	PAC	92
California-Los Angeles	PAC	88
Oregon			PAC	85
Washington		PAC	84
Washington State	PAC	82
Oregon State		PAC	81
Arizona State		PAC	78
California		PAC	77
Stanford		PAC	76
Arizona			PAC	74

Georgia			SEC	93
Florida			SEC	92
Tennessee		SEC	90
Louisiana State		SEC	90
Alabama			SEC	87
Auburn			SEC	85
South Carolina		SEC	81
Arkansas		SEC	79
Mississippi		SEC	78
Kentucky		SEC	72
Vanderbilt		SEC	70
Mississippi State	SEC	70

[Balldog]

I'm open to any team, except Michigan.

[Coffee Warlord]

Colorado anyone?

Be a fun storyline, too. After all the bad press, the brain trust was fired, and a group of miscreants came in to run the show.

[Raven Hawk]

I think anybody with a prestige of 77-83 playing in one of the major conferences works for me.

Therefore, I would support a choice of Colorado.

Maybe we should just create a poll.

[Ben E Lou]

Doesn't Colorado, being in the Southwest, have easier access to the "mother lode" of recruits in California? The other thing I like about NC State is that there are plenty of schools nearby that trump them in Academics and/or Prestige.

[Ben E Lou]

IRL, the Head Coach (CraigSca) takes a job at a school and gets to hire his staff (us). I'd be game for that.

[albionmoonlight]

The academics may make it too easy, but Vanderbilt also seems to fit most of that for which people are looking.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

The academics may make it too easy, but Vanderbilt also seems to fit most of that for which people are looking.

A benefit of that is that we might get a better handle on the changes in academics in 1.3.

[Raven Hawk]

CraigSca has heard from the peanut gallery, he can either choose to listen to us or ignore us either way. He should make the decision.

[MikeVick7]

Originally Posted by Raven Hawk

CraigSca has heard from the peanut gallery, he can either choose to listen to us or ignore us either way. He should make the decision.

Well if that's the case then...we're headed on over to Maryland.

[larrymcg421]

I'll go ahead and be the Special Teams Coach.

[JeeberD]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

I'll go ahead and be the Special Teams Coach.

Position filled...

Originally Posted by mckerney

I'm interested in taking the special teams tasks if it's not filled.

[CraigSca]

Actually, Icy would have dibs on special teams coach if he wants it (as he asked to be included in the group think earlier in the day), but I kind of left it open as I'm not sure what a special teams coach would do in TCY. If Icy wants the position, it's his, however.

I'll think about the school to pick in a little bit, though I will give a lot of careful consideration to your picks. I'd prefer a less than middle of the pack team in a good conference, so there's room to grow but something that won't take us 6 years to get going.

As far as Sol-8 is concerned, I'm leaning towards sticking it in Alaska and renaming the teams to represent the Ivy League. I've always had internal objections to playing against what I consider to be "odd" named schools like Barrow, Juneau and Kodiak. Let me know if there are any objections to this.

[atatange1]

I'd like to see you guy's go with a tournament at the end of the season instead of BCS. I think it would add more fun and pressure for you guys instead of worrying about one bowl game. Just a thought.

[Raven Hawk]

If we were looking to divide the Recruiting Coordinator position, we could divide it into Offensive and Defensive Recruiting Coordinators. Just a thought.

[CraigSca]

I was thinking that as well, Raven. It's the easiest way to divide recruits since the game uses states for searching as opposed to regions.

[CraigSca]

Ok - it seems I've received a few phone calls regarding my availability to coach a college football team this year. As I have no experience coaching any team on any level, I'm at least a little surprised by this. However, I've made arrangements with an agent and we're currently speaking to a few teams about taking over their program. Also, I told my agent that it's an absolute PRIORITY that I bring my entire coaching staff with me to the new school (which is kind of odd considering I have a full coaching staff picked, yet have no experience in running a program).

I've left some feelers out there and here are the offers I've received:

Oklahoma State University - Prestige of 75, Ranked #10 of 12 in conference

Advantages: great natural rivalries with instant underdog role, tough recruiting region, conference championship game, mediocre academics (#70), in the Big 12 south, so they face Texas and Oklahoma

Disadvantages: Access to a recruiting region with a large player pool (Texas)


Ole Miss - Prestige of 78, Ranked #9 of 12 in conference

Advantages: Tough recruiting region, tough conference, conference championship game, awful academic rating, in the SEC south, so they face LSU, Alabama and Auburn

Disadvantages: maybe their academics are too awful (#116)?

North Carolina State - Prestige of 80, ranked #7 of 11 in conference

Advantages: Tough conference, tough recruiting region, academics are pretty good (#51), but not so good that we can use it to our advantage

Disadvantages: Maybe they start off too good?

Let me know if you have any preferences, though I promise to make my decision quickly.

[Raven Hawk]

Here are my preferences:

1. NC State
2. OSU
3. Ole Miss

[Coffee Warlord]

Any of the three are fine. Depends on how tough you wanna make it, with those three teams.

If I had to rank em, in order of preference...

NC State, Ole Miss, OK State.

[Ben E Lou]

As I've said, I have a good feeling about NC State. Their decent academic rating might look good, but with Duke, Carolina and Wake right there, Vandy not far away, and the toning down in 1.3, I think it'll be tough to recruit based on academics. Further, I have a feeling that the Prestige will drop before it rises. That year 1 schedule is TOUGH.


EDIT: My ranking would be NC State, Ole Miss, Ok. State

[Balldog]

1. Ole Miss
2. NC State
3. OK State

[cthomer5000]

Ole Miss, NC State, OK State are my preferences

[TredWel]

I see Ole Miss as being a very good challenge. NC State would be tough as well. I guess that means my preferences are:

1. Ole Miss
2. NC State
3. OK State

[WSUCougar]

Originally Posted by Raven Hawk

Here are my preferences:

1. NC State
2. OSU
3. Ole Miss

Ditto.