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Old 08-18-2005, 07:40 PM   #651
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It looks like it's me going in, so I guess I'm forced to reveal my role. I was given the role as a blind witness. It's a seer-like role except that it's not 100% right. So far everyone I've viewed has been clean, except last night I "eavesdropped" on a conversation between bearcat and an unknown character. I didn't reveal my role for obvious reasons but looking it over it looks like I need to do something so we don't lose this semi-important role. The conversation was something about "wacking someone", but again it's not 100%, neon said the role was 60% correct. So that's why I voted for bearcat. Now hopefully if I get saved the cop will protect me.


How many seers are in this game?
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Old 08-18-2005, 07:41 PM   #652
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Interesting. I'll leave my vote on bearcat, but if it's wrong, you will die tomorrow.
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Old 08-18-2005, 07:41 PM   #653
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How many seers are in this game?

LOL, thats what I'm thinking...but who knows...for all these seers we still haven't gotten one yet. Still I tend to believe him about you, its just that it may be a mafia ploy.
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Old 08-18-2005, 07:42 PM   #654
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It's your guys choice, I saw you took a chance with Blade so I figured if I'm about to be lynched, hope that I get the same luck. I had hoped I wasn't going to have to reveal my role until a little later on, but that's not how it turned out. :/
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Old 08-18-2005, 07:43 PM   #655
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And like it said it's only a 60% chance of being correct, but bearcat is the only one who has turned up positive.
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Old 08-18-2005, 07:46 PM   #656
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I'm not sure what I can do to convince people that I am a villager.
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Old 08-18-2005, 07:47 PM   #657
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Shorty? pennywise? you guys around?
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Old 08-18-2005, 07:48 PM   #658
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I think a tie gives them an extra death while telling us nothing. I would suggest we trust a seer and if he's wrong we take him out. Then again, if he's lying we could be screwed. I didn't see any defense from bearcat, then again, what could he say.
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Old 08-18-2005, 07:49 PM   #659
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I think a tie gives them an extra death while telling us nothing. I would suggest we trust a seer and if he's wrong we take him out. Then again, if he's lying we could be screwed. I didn't see any defense from bearcat, then again, what could he say.

I agree, but I really wanted to see if Shorty and Pennywise were going to come in and try and bandwagon Illini. For the time being I'll stand pat, but this won't be a tie vote tonight I promise you....
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Old 08-18-2005, 07:49 PM   #660
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Ten minutes. Where is the late money going to go? (Including my own.)
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Old 08-18-2005, 07:53 PM   #661
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It's tough because I know my seer-like role, but it's up to you guys to believe me. :/
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Old 08-18-2005, 07:55 PM   #662
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Unfortunately, we can't wait for tomorrow.

We either trust illini now and he's right. Or we lose.
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Old 08-18-2005, 07:57 PM   #663
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unvote illini.

vote bearcat
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Old 08-18-2005, 07:58 PM   #664
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Please let my death end this game. At least I won't die for no reason.
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Old 08-18-2005, 07:59 PM   #665
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Unfortunately, we can't wait for tomorrow.

We either trust illini now and he's right. Or we lose.

I agree, and just so Pennywise and shorty can't swing the vote

Unvote Illini

Vote Bearcat
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:03 PM   #666
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I really hope todays vote helped us, I've suspected Bearcat since early in the game and with the way he's played this game I just can't see a villager playing like that. If he's innocent obviously we look @ Illini, which I'm not convinced he's what he says he is. Also we need to look at Pennywise and Shorty missing the most important vote in the game.....
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:04 PM   #667
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If bearcat is a villager, I think we are done.
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:07 PM   #668
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If bearcat is a villager, I think we are done.

I still see no evidence that there are 5 mafia. Anyone care to explain. Even if he is a villager I see it as 6-4. After 2 nites kill.
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:09 PM   #669
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I know it's past the deadline so this won't help tonight, but maybe I just misinterpreted and bearcat was the cop talking about someone being wacked. How I hope I'm wrong.
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:09 PM   #670
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I still see no evidence that there are 5 mafia. Anyone care to explain. Even if he is a villager I see it as 6-4. After 2 nites kill.

If we assume 4 starting mafia, plus the don's son, that will equal 5.
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:31 PM   #671
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Bearcat729 - Fouts, Ardent Enthusiast, SnDvls, digamma, dubb93 illinifan999
Ardent Enthusiast - Blade6119
Shorty3281 - SackAttack,
illinifan999 - Schmidty, Bearcat729

After piling on illinifan999, several men decide to change their votes late in the game. You drag bearcat729 to the Slaughter shed. He protests, screaming that he isn't Mafia. Noone listens as you start hacking away at his flesh. After it is over, you head towards his house and look around. You find nothing. Bearcat729 was a Villager!

With sadness in your hearts, you all go home. During the night... SackAttack is killed, unable to be protected by the Bodyguard anymore. You each wake up in your own beds, but to your surprise, there is a Mafia member standing right there, with a gun pointed to your temple. Four separate gunshots later, the Villagers and the Retired Officer are dead. Blade6119 starts pleading for his life, he presents a seal of some sort... he had been hired from Palermo to rat out the Newspaper Investigator... he shows it to Shorty3281, the Don's lost Son... and is absolved.

...the Don's son has been found, the lineage will continue. The Mafia have returned.

1. dubb93 - Regional Magistrate, Power used Day 4, Killed in end game
2. ardent enthusiast - Mafia
3. SackAttack - Villager, Killed By Mafia Night 5
4. Fouts - Mafia
5. RealDeal - Villager, Lynched Day 1
6. Bearcat729 - Villager, Lynched Day 5
7. illinifan999 - Mafia
8. MrBug708 - Newspaper Investigator, Killed By Mafia Night 3
9. SnDvls - Mafia
10. Mr. Wednesday - Witness, Killed By Mafia Night 1
11. digamma - Retired Officer, killed in end game
12. bek - Villager, Lynched Day 3
13. Aesyrqwe - Villager, Lynched Day 2
14. Shorty3281 - Don's Son, Found by Mafia Night 2
15. pennywisesb - Villager, killed in end game
16. Schmidty - Villager, killed in end game
17. Blade6119 - Turncoat
18. jeff061 - Villager, Lynched Day 4

Mafia Win!!!

Btw, here is blade's role:
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Turncoat - You are a snitch being paid by the Mafia in Palermo to weed out the nosy Newspaper Investigator. If the Mafia win, you win as well. You are still counted as a Villager. Each night, you may view one person of your choice to see if he is the Newspaper Investigator. You do not know who the Mafia are, nor do they know who you are.
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:31 PM   #672
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:32 PM   #673
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:32 PM   #674
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I am just shocked that the Villagers didn't bag one Mafia... specially when everyone was Bandwagoning on Bearcat on the last day. It was pretty obvious right there.
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:33 PM   #675
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And just so you know we never had a seer role, I wanted to get Mr.W out on the first night because he was starting a lot of discussions, and then we wanted to take out Bug to try to frame jeff.
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:33 PM   #676
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very nice play
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:38 PM   #677
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Well done Mafia. You know, I couldn't figure out why blade would clear me like that. We all thought he was making up a role.

Great luck for us to nail Mr.W and MrBug. We were amazed that the bodyguard protected Sack, unless it was Sack protecting himself. Well done Digamma.
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:38 PM   #678
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I'm never playing this game again
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:39 PM   #679
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Didn't get me.

There are quite a few LVPs in this game though. They shall remain nameless.
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:40 PM   #680
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I'm never playing this game again

Awww. It's all in fun. I've taken some bad beats in werewolf, but you gotta come back swinging!
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:41 PM   #681
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Oh and jeff, the mafia all wanted to kill you every night, but I convinced them to let you live as a fall guy. You are welcome!
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:42 PM   #682
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Thank god it's over.

In the interests of full disclosure, as the retired officer, I protected myself, Sack, Blade and then got one right by protecting Sack again.

Neon told me that I scared off five mafia on the night they attacked Sack, so that was where my info came from.

On the last vote, we were stuck. I was suspicious of AE and illini, but we were in a tie and it wasn't going to get broken. The game was lost long before then.
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:43 PM   #683
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I'm the prime suspect in every one of these games, yet I've only been a bad guy in one out of the 8 that I've played in. The bad guy's eyes must light up when they realize I'm a villager.
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:46 PM   #684
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Oh and jeff, the mafia all wanted to kill you every night, but I convinced them to let you live as a fall guy. You are welcome!

I'd of been happier if you killed me .

Oh well, I was confident you were Mafia from the beginning to end, but there was no way anyone would of believed me.

Also thought it was obvious Illini was lying(60%??), but to late for me .
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:47 PM   #685
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Blade6119 starts pleading for his life, he presents a seal of some sort... he had been hired from Palermo to rat out the Newspaper Investigator... he shows it to Shorty3281, the Don's lost Son... and is absolved.

...the Don's son has been found, the lineage will continue. The Mafia have returned.

We wanted to keep blade around because he was helping us out. Little did we know he was on our side. We also got pretty lucky on the shorty hit. First 3 nights was witness, don's son, reporter.
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:48 PM   #686
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I'm a horrible liar. I can't believe you guys didn't see it.
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:48 PM   #687
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II'd of been happier if you killed me .

Oh well, I was confident you were Mafia from the beginning to end, but there was no way anyone would of believed me.

Also thought it was obvious Illini was lying(60%??), but to late for me .

I agree with the 60 percent thing. He came up with that on his own, and I couldn't believe it worked. The villagers didn't want a tie though, so they didn't have much choice.
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:49 PM   #688
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Yeah, I wanted Mr. W and Jeff out early so we could take out the big strategists, but the call for Shorty and MrBug were perfect. We were actually trying to set Jeff up.
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:50 PM   #689
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We pretty much loss when the focus was taken off of Blade/Shorty. Ah well. Lucky hits and tough guesses.
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:51 PM   #690
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And I'm a horrible truth-teller. Together we could rule the world!!!!
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:53 PM   #691
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you made the game for me Bearcat. I had to get someone and you provided the perfect cover when you went after Sack.

After dying in the last game as a villager and then being a mafia in this one. It's two totally different games. As a villager w/ no powers it's so frustrating on who to trust/not trust. As Mafia you had to really watch what you said and did so a seer wouldn't out you.

We got really lucky on our first three nights. If we hadn't gotten those people I think it could have been a totally different game.

Thanks all it was fun.
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Old 08-18-2005, 09:01 PM   #692
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Thanks for the game, guys. This is the first win for me.
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Old 08-18-2005, 09:01 PM   #693
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ya, fyi...i\had the worst role ever...i was mafia, but didnt know the mafia and they didnt know me...i could scan for the reporter, but little did that matter after bug died(i really did scan shorty, sack, and fouts)...i knew no one and learned nothing...i spent all game just trying to surive long enough to see the mafia win...i started to know fouts was, and ardent was as i said my other top suspect..i just couldnt call out fouts becuase,well, i wanted to win...i was just soo afraid me working to get villagers killed(bek, dubb and jeff, and real deal to) would finally kill me but i came up with that reporters assistant role on a drive home...it just sucked, because even if i suspected someone(fouts was clearly my most likely mafia man) i wanted to help them..i just could never figure out if they were without the group finding out...sorry to have to mislead everyone, all in the day of a turncoat...im just shocked neither side killed me since both sides thought i was on the other team
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Old 08-18-2005, 09:04 PM   #694
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You played it pretty well. Villagers weren't sure and Mafia didn't care.

Try out the sorcerer role, same thing no seer powers. Just a villager that wants the wolves to win, but they don't know who each other is. Then you get eaten night one .
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Old 08-18-2005, 09:10 PM   #695
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Blade, when you said I was clean, you guaranteed we (mafia) weren't going to kill you. We didn't want the villagers to know you lied. Well done.
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Old 08-18-2005, 09:25 PM   #696
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I swear when I play again if anyone tries a role reveal when they are on the verge of being killed, I'm still voting for them no matter what role and evidence they provide.

Nice job Mafia on a well played game.

Oh and I think we need a new rule about revealing PM's. Blade did it here with Bek and Hoops did it in the other game running now with Coffee. There's a reason they are called private messages after all-they should never be brought into a game. And I can't believe you let Blade off the hook when Bek was revealed as a villager! Who knows maybe I would have too if I were playing.
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Old 08-18-2005, 09:27 PM   #697
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i figured as much...i had you tabbed on day two and waited till three since i knew the reporter was still out there and i was worried bug would scan you and catch me...thats why i waited till he died before i said i scanned you...ardent i suspected all along, as you can see by my two votes for him...illini i thought about suspected due to numbers, but sun wasnt even on my radar..good job sun...as for shorty, i knew he went on day two...another lucky guess...all in all i had nothing but suspicions that were mostly right...im just lucky the villagers bought my bogus roles(plural)
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Old 08-18-2005, 09:30 PM   #698
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hey jeff, i would have believed you, i just had to help fouts instead of go after him...but i was right there with you on him being bad...its annoying to play as a villager(which i had to due to figure out the mafia) only to have to protect the suspicions you have...grrrr
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:59 PM   #699
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I agree with the 60 percent thing. He came up with that on his own, and I couldn't believe it worked. The villagers didn't want a tie though, so they didn't have much choice.

Yeah, the light bulb went off for me there, but I still don't think we really had a choice at that point. We could take a tie, which just delayed the problem one day. We were reaching for straws. Short ones at that.
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:13 PM   #700
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Good game guys...Man, I can't believe we didn't flush out one mafia. Sorry I missed the day but I had a job interview 3 hours from home and didn't get back in time to vote or anything. I plan on trying to play in future games though because that was a ton of fun.
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