Werewolf XII: Mafia Returneth - Page 2

Neon_Chaos · 08-13-2005, 12:33 AM

Player List:
1. dubb93
2. ardent enthusiast
3. SackAttack
4. Fouts
5. RealDeal
6. Bearcat729
7. illinifan999
8. MrBug708
9. SnDvls
10. Mr. Wednesday
11. digamma
12. bek
13. Aesyrqwe
14. Shorty3281
15. pennywisesb
16. Schmidty
17. Blade6119
18. jeff061

Your roles have been sent out.

The Don in Palermo has died. You all feel like you owe it to him to pay homage to the man who has protected your Village all your lives. Unfortunately, as you all wake up... you find the Don's most trusted servant, an old soldier by the name of Neon_Chaos, garroted; a thin rope wound tightly around his neck. Was he protecting something? Someone? Accusations are hurled... and tempers flare. You all know this, someone will be dead by the end of this day. There is a small slaughter-shed near the Village's center... with knives and cleavers... the perfect place for executions.

The game Begins with Day (1). Votes are due at 9PM EDT.

korme · 08-13-2005, 12:57 AM

As an innocent nobody, I am ready to start randomly pointing fingers on Day 1!

RealDeal · 08-13-2005, 12:58 AM

villager once again

pennywisesb · 08-13-2005, 12:59 AM

Fellow Villager checking in as well.

illinifan999 · 08-13-2005, 01:01 AM

Damn no special power this time.

Mafia's lucking I'm not the duke character, I could help us win it in the first 2 rounds again.

pennywisesb · 08-13-2005, 01:05 AM

I vote Illini for being arrogant. Just kidding

pennywisesb · 08-13-2005, 01:09 AM

Since its so exciting around here, I'm gonna hit the sack. I'll be back on in the morning.

illinifan999 · 08-13-2005, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pennywisesb

I vote Illini for being arrogant. Just kidding

vampire, i mean mafia.

Fouts · 08-13-2005, 01:23 AM

Checking in. Interesting ruleset for this one.

SackAttack · 08-13-2005, 01:28 AM

Good times. I'll be around tonight and tomorrow morning to partake of the discussion and/or lynchings, but I work from 2:30 to 11 tomorrow night.

Don't hurt me.

SackAttack · 08-13-2005, 01:29 AM

Dola, that would be Pacific time.

Blade6119 · 08-13-2005, 03:11 AM

hey guys, checking in...ill be in from about 4(pacific) to vote time...maybe for a few minutes in the morning, but i have work at 8 Am...ah well, lets see who tips their hand today(besides real, since we cant accuse him without "trying to bring the team down")

Blade6119 · 08-13-2005, 03:18 AM

dola, that was meant as a joke, not an attack or a request for response from real..hopefully he took it as lighthearted as it was meant...

Bek · 08-13-2005, 03:20 AM

Hi all, just checking in to see whats going on...This looks like it could turn out to be an interesting game...just remember that its all in good fun..will be back to vote later

MrBug708 · 08-13-2005, 05:03 AM

Checking in for right now...

Poli · 08-13-2005, 08:21 AM

4 bells, Ardent, arriving. I'm home with my wife for the weekend, so I'll be sporadically posting, except in the morning.

jeff061 · 08-13-2005, 09:21 AM

Uh, so.

Vote Real Deal

digamma · 08-13-2005, 09:59 AM

Another villager checking in. I'll follow along as best I can today, but don't know my precise schedule.

Mr. Wednesday · 08-13-2005, 10:06 AM

Simple villager, checking in. The only good first-day vote I ever cast was as a mafioso for a policeman in the last mafia game, so you probably shouldn't pay any attention to my first-day vote.

pennywisesb · 08-13-2005, 10:50 AM

Hey fellow villagers, checking in. I have to work until noon today, so I'll be on most of the morning, but once I go home I'll probably be on sporadically after that throughout the day.
EDIT: grammar

Schmidty · 08-13-2005, 12:45 PM

Villager Schmidty reporting for duty.

Neon_Chaos · 08-13-2005, 12:47 PM

Bah. I'm spending the day with the folks and relatives. Looks like I might not be able to go online for the deadline, so I'm moving it back by a day. Sorry guys.

Vote Deadline is now Sunday, 9PM EDT.

pennywisesb · 08-13-2005, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Villager Schmidty reporting for duty.

Apparently its just me and you on watch right now.

dubb93 · 08-13-2005, 12:51 PM

Another villager checking in, with some luck we may be able to get the mafia as fast as we got the vampires

SackAttack · 08-13-2005, 01:02 PM

Nothing hopping yet? Aw.

pennywisesb · 08-13-2005, 01:05 PM

I'm leaning towards voting for Sack because of what his Dodgers are doing in the DKBL this year.

jeff061 · 08-13-2005, 01:11 PM

Yep, pretty quiet around here.

digamma · 08-13-2005, 01:22 PM

The Sunday deadline works better for me.

Absolutely nothing to go on. I'm thinking of joining jeff on the RD bandwagon.

jeff061 · 08-13-2005, 01:48 PM

Yeah I'd like to reiterate a vote against Real Deal.

Maybe if he's a villager he'll call me a stupid asshole, demand an explanation and be happy that he is being vindicated, 14 times.

Schmidty · 08-13-2005, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff061

Yeah I'd like to reiterate a vote against Real Deal.

Maybe if he's a villager he'll call me a stupid asshole, demand an explanation and be happy that he is being vindicated, 14 times.

Hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

RealDeal · 08-13-2005, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff061

Yeah I'd like to reiterate a vote against Real Deal.

Maybe if he's a villager he'll call me a stupid asshole, demand an explanation and be happy that he is being vindicated, 14 times.

I don't want to get into a whole other pissing contest with another jerk, but I find it ironic that he was giving me crap about being upset about someone targeting me for reasons that had nothing to do with the game, and then he starts a brand new game by by doing exactly the same thing .

Like I said before, my intention is for everything that happened in WWIX to stay there, but this kind of behavior by Jeff is pretty disappointing to me. Why is he trying to drag the issues from that game into this one?

jeff061 · 08-13-2005, 02:30 PM

I'm not going to argue with a child, anyone who doubts me only has to read the other wolf thread or do a search for your posts. It's another game, but his antics will still carry over.

Fouts · 08-13-2005, 02:46 PM

I'd rather not carry grudges from game to game, but that doesn't mean I won't vote for him.

SackAttack · 08-13-2005, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pennywisesb

I'm leaning towards voting for Sack because of what his Dodgers are doing in the DKBL this year.

Funny, I was going to vote for Bug because of all the injuiries.

digamma · 08-13-2005, 03:32 PM

So, RealDeal, are you a villager?

korme · 08-13-2005, 03:43 PM

For no reason whatsoever jeff is going after RealDeal because of past experiences. Fishy.

Vote jeff061

Blade6119 · 08-13-2005, 03:44 PM

i dont think you have to ask me if im down for voting for realdeal...if something better comes along, ill certainly change, but for now i just dont want the headache he causes

Vote Realdeal

jeff061 · 08-13-2005, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shorty3281

For no reason whatsoever jeff is going after RealDeal because of past experiences. Fishy.

Vote jeff061

I suspect you won't be the last with that line of thinking, which is fine, I may even be lynched. Historically I state my case of voting for the quiet ones on day 1 and do just that.

But I don't feel like dealing with a headahe for another few days.

illinifan999 · 08-13-2005, 04:01 PM

Anyone want to transfer their duke like powers to me so I can get a mafia right away again?

SackAttack · 08-13-2005, 04:10 PM

Don't really know anything about him, other than what I've seen in the other thread, but he was certainly a polarizing figure over there, and that's something the villagers can ill afford. For that reason, if for no other, I'll give Bug a pass (but vengeance is coming!), and

vote RealDeal

dubb93 · 08-13-2005, 04:13 PM

Vote Realdeal

Even if he isn't involved with the mafia he isn't worth the headache. This is a game, in this game people accuse other people of being bad in order to flush them out, sometimes people are wrong. Realdeal can't seem to accept that someone may accuse him and when it happens he goes all diva and gives up over the course of about 500 posts to make his point. Not a person I want around very long.

Schmidty · 08-13-2005, 04:28 PM

Vote RealDeal

Go home little boy.

Schmidty · 08-13-2005, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shorty3281

For no reason whatsoever jeff is going after RealDeal because of past experiences. Fishy.

Vote jeff061

Wrong, Shane. He's going after RealDeal because RD is a miserable baby who ruins the game for everyone else with his anitcs.

illinifan999 · 08-13-2005, 04:36 PM

Well might as well just go, if any mafia's want to admit let me know and I'll change my vote.

Vote RealDeal

RealDeal · 08-13-2005, 05:28 PM

Here's my defense

1. I am a villagers, and it is definitely not in the villagers interest to kill me.

2. I understand that people are upset from the WW IX. In my defense, I can say, I've been on FOFC a long time. I've been involved in many dynasty threads, including GB's epic X-Com dynasty. No one has ever had a problem with me until Blade made me angry in the last thread.

3. I had a problem with Blade, and I've explained why. But I played the game straight up the whole time other with the fact that I want Blade held to accoutn for bringing out of game stuff into the game. I helped the villagers, made good votes, and supplied the villagers with completely honest information.

4. Despite my problem with Blade, I have pledged that I will not bring it in here. Everyone knows my issues with him, but that was that game, and I'm prepared to move on.

5. If you choose to kill me, I will not hold grudges. But you will find that I am a villager. This is a perfect opporunity for wolves to get a villager killed and have an excuse. Watch the votes closely and at least don't bandwagon so you get no information from my death.

jeff061 · 08-13-2005, 05:41 PM

Quote:

I had a problem with Blade, and I've explained why.

The only explanation I've heard from you is "He's stupid". I still don't get your problem with him, but from what I can see he didn't do anything you or anyone else won't do at some point. Make a incorrect accusation when there was very little to go on.

Quote:

Despite my problem with Blade, I have pledged that I will not bring it in here

No you said you won't bring it here as long as no one acts like Blade did. Blade acted perfectly fine.

Quote:

This is a perfect opporunity for wolves to get a villager killed and have an excuse

It always is the first day, someone will get lynched off for some dumb reason 100% of the time. This is the best reason I've seen in awhile.

jeff061 · 08-13-2005, 05:43 PM

Let me add the thing that set me over the edge with you. I'll ask you this one question.

Why did you vote for yourself when you were innocent and why did you not even change it when you were around at the end of the day and you could of saved yourself? This action alone makes you harmful whether you are a villager or mafia.

Fouts · 08-13-2005, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff061

Let me add the thing that set me over the edge with you. I'll ask you this one question.

Why did you vote for yourself when you were innocent and why did you not even change it when you were around at the end of the day and you could of saved yourself? This action alone makes you harmful whether you are a villager or mafia.

Bingo. That is exactly what I was thinking. Why let yourself die? And that helps our village how? Just to discourage this type of play...

I vote RealDeal

RealDeal · 08-13-2005, 06:01 PM

Here's why i voted for myself:

If you look at WWIX, I didn't go looking for trouble with Blade. He picked me out from the start. That's OK, you got to vote for someone. But then he kept on about it, even when Digamma's PM's basically cleared me.

What I was disappointed in is that when I became angry, perhaps we both had some blame, but no one held Blade to account at all. Everyone was mad at me, and I felt like there was some blame the victim involved. If anyone had just even said, yeah RD, Blade's reasoning didnt make sense, I would have been ok. But the fact that Blade did what he did, and then I found myself taking the blame made me want to make it clear that I shouldn't have been blamed, at least not completely blamed for the problems. So at that point, I did want to get lynched to show that I was a villager.

Also, I didn't feel like it mattered much from a strategy perspective. I did, after all, get Blade killed, although i did think he was a wolf. The fact that he wasn't a wolf, made me madder, particularly when everyone was blaming me for something I didn't start.

So people weren't going to believe me anyway after I got a villager killed. But once it was revealed I was a villager, people would know that the info I gave about the CoA was true. And as it turns out, that information should be valuable to them in that game when dealing with RA.

I don't apologize for my feelings toward Blade, but I do feel bad for how it affected other people's enjoyment of that game. However, I never pulled the wrong way; I also helped the villagers, made the best votes I could, and gave true information when I had it.

It just never made sense to me why everyone ganged up on me and Blade came out smelling like roses. That upset me, but as I said before that's something that won't get brought into this game.

Schmidty · 08-13-2005, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealDeal

Here's why i voted for myself:

If you look at WWIX, I didn't go looking for trouble with Blade. He picked me out from the start. That's OK, you got to vote for someone. But then he kept on about it, even when Digamma's PM's basically cleared me.

What I was disappointed in is that when I became angry, perhaps we both had some blame, but no one held Blade to account at all. Everyone was mad at me, and I felt like there was some blame the victim involved. If anyone had just even said, yeah RD, Blade's reasoning didnt make sense, I would have been ok. But the fact that Blade did what he did, and then I found myself taking the blame made me want to make it clear that I shouldn't have been blamed, at least not completely blamed for the problems. So at that point, I did want to get lynched to show that I was a villager.

Also, I didn't feel like it mattered much from a strategy perspective. I did, after all, get Blade killed, although i did think he was a wolf. The fact that he wasn't a wolf, made me madder, particularly when everyone was blaming me for something I didn't start.

So people weren't going to believe me anyway after I got a villager killed. But once it was revealed I was a villager, people would know that the info I gave about the CoA was true. And as it turns out, that information should be valuable to them in that game when dealing with RA.

I don't apologize for my feelings toward Blade, but I do feel bad for how it affected other people's enjoyment of that game. However, I never pulled the wrong way; I also helped the villagers, made the best votes I could, and gave true information when I had it.

It just never made sense to me why everyone ganged up on me and Blade came out smelling like roses. That upset me, but as I said before that's something that won't get brought into this game.

You were a baby. Admit it, change your ways, and I think people might think better of you. Keep yapping with your same excuses, and I know that no one will respect you or want you involved in this stuff.

08-13-2005, 12:59 AM	#54
pennywisesb College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California	Fellow Villager checking in as well. __________________ Myspace Profile

08-13-2005, 01:01 AM	#55
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	Damn no special power this time. Mafia's lucking I'm not the duke character, I could help us win it in the first 2 rounds again. __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

08-13-2005, 01:05 AM	#56
pennywisesb College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California	I vote Illini for being arrogant. Just kidding __________________ Myspace Profile

08-13-2005, 01:09 AM	#57
pennywisesb College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California	Since its so exciting around here, I'm gonna hit the sack. I'll be back on in the morning. __________________ Myspace Profile

08-13-2005, 03:11 AM	#62
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	hey guys, checking in...ill be in from about 4(pacific) to vote time...maybe for a few minutes in the morning, but i have work at 8 Am...ah well, lets see who tips their hand today(besides real, since we cant accuse him without "trying to bring the team down") __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

08-13-2005, 12:57 AM	#52
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	As an innocent nobody, I am ready to start randomly pointing fingers on Day 1!

08-13-2005, 12:58 AM	#53
RealDeal High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: here	villager once again

08-13-2005, 01:23 AM	#59
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Checking in. Interesting ruleset for this one.

08-13-2005, 01:28 AM	#60
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	Good times. I'll be around tonight and tomorrow morning to partake of the discussion and/or lynchings, but I work from 2:30 to 11 tomorrow night. Don't hurt me.

08-13-2005, 01:29 AM	#61
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	Dola, that would be Pacific time.

08-13-2005, 03:18 AM	#63
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	dola, that was meant as a joke, not an attack or a request for response from real..hopefully he took it as lighthearted as it was meant... __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

08-13-2005, 03:20 AM	#64
Bek High School JV Join Date: Aug 2005	Hi all, just checking in to see whats going on...This looks like it could turn out to be an interesting game...just remember that its all in good fun..will be back to vote later

08-13-2005, 05:03 AM	#65
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Checking in for right now...

08-13-2005, 08:21 AM	#66
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	4 bells, Ardent, arriving. I'm home with my wife for the weekend, so I'll be sporadically posting, except in the morning. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

08-13-2005, 09:21 AM	#67
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	Uh, so. Vote Real Deal __________________

08-13-2005, 09:59 AM	#68
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	Another villager checking in. I'll follow along as best I can today, but don't know my precise schedule.

08-13-2005, 10:06 AM	#69
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	Simple villager, checking in. The only good first-day vote I ever cast was as a mafioso for a policeman in the last mafia game, so you probably shouldn't pay any attention to my first-day vote. __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

08-13-2005, 10:50 AM	#70
pennywisesb College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California	Hey fellow villagers, checking in. I have to work until noon today, so I'll be on most of the morning, but once I go home I'll probably be on sporadically after that throughout the day. EDIT: grammar __________________ Myspace Profile Last edited by pennywisesb : 08-13-2005 at 10:56 AM.

08-13-2005, 12:45 PM	#71
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Villager Schmidty reporting for duty. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

08-13-2005, 12:47 PM	#72
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Bah. I'm spending the day with the folks and relatives. Looks like I might not be able to go online for the deadline, so I'm moving it back by a day. Sorry guys. Vote Deadline is now Sunday, 9PM EDT. __________________ Come and see.

08-13-2005, 01:02 PM	#75
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	Nothing hopping yet? Aw.

08-13-2005, 01:05 PM	#76
pennywisesb College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California	I'm leaning towards voting for Sack because of what his Dodgers are doing in the DKBL this year. __________________ Myspace Profile

08-13-2005, 01:11 PM	#77
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	Yep, pretty quiet around here. __________________

08-13-2005, 01:22 PM	#78
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	The Sunday deadline works better for me. Absolutely nothing to go on. I'm thinking of joining jeff on the RD bandwagon.

08-13-2005, 01:48 PM	#79
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	Yeah I'd like to reiterate a vote against Real Deal. Maybe if he's a villager he'll call me a stupid asshole, demand an explanation and be happy that he is being vindicated, 14 times. __________________ Last edited by jeff061 : 08-13-2005 at 01:48 PM.

08-13-2005, 02:30 PM	#82
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	I'm not going to argue with a child, anyone who doubts me only has to read the other wolf thread or do a search for your posts. It's another game, but his antics will still carry over. __________________ Last edited by jeff061 : 08-13-2005 at 02:30 PM.

08-13-2005, 02:46 PM	#83
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	I'd rather not carry grudges from game to game, but that doesn't mean I won't vote for him.

08-13-2005, 03:32 PM	#85
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	So, RealDeal, are you a villager?

08-13-2005, 03:43 PM	#86
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	For no reason whatsoever jeff is going after RealDeal because of past experiences. Fishy. Vote jeff061

08-13-2005, 03:44 PM	#87
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	i dont think you have to ask me if im down for voting for realdeal...if something better comes along, ill certainly change, but for now i just dont want the headache he causes Vote Realdeal __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

08-13-2005, 04:01 PM	#89
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	Anyone want to transfer their duke like powers to me so I can get a mafia right away again? __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

08-13-2005, 04:10 PM	#90
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	Don't really know anything about him, other than what I've seen in the other thread, but he was certainly a polarizing figure over there, and that's something the villagers can ill afford. For that reason, if for no other, I'll give Bug a pass (but vengeance is coming!), and vote RealDeal

08-13-2005, 04:28 PM	#92
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Vote RealDeal Go home little boy. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

08-13-2005, 04:36 PM	#94
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	Well might as well just go, if any mafia's want to admit let me know and I'll change my vote. Vote RealDeal __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

08-13-2005, 05:28 PM	#95
RealDeal High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: here	Here's my defense 1. I am a villagers, and it is definitely not in the villagers interest to kill me. 2. I understand that people are upset from the WW IX. In my defense, I can say, I've been on FOFC a long time. I've been involved in many dynasty threads, including GB's epic X-Com dynasty. No one has ever had a problem with me until Blade made me angry in the last thread. 3. I had a problem with Blade, and I've explained why. But I played the game straight up the whole time other with the fact that I want Blade held to accoutn for bringing out of game stuff into the game. I helped the villagers, made good votes, and supplied the villagers with completely honest information. 4. Despite my problem with Blade, I have pledged that I will not bring it in here. Everyone knows my issues with him, but that was that game, and I'm prepared to move on. 5. If you choose to kill me, I will not hold grudges. But you will find that I am a villager. This is a perfect opporunity for wolves to get a villager killed and have an excuse. Watch the votes closely and at least don't bandwagon so you get no information from my death.