World Cup 2018/2022 announcements - Page 4

Abe Sargent · 12-03-2010, 03:24 PM

Just looked it up and Greenland is part of the NF Board not FIFA, sorry, my bad. Unless you count the NF Board.

MIJB#19 · 12-04-2010, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

There are a lot of parts of nations that compete as a part, and not as the whole. Examples below:

Curacao
Reunion
Faeroe Islands
Greenland
Hong Kong
Bermuda

And that's just off my head

Actually, Curacao became an independant country about a month ago and before that in the sports world was part of the Netherlands Antilles.

Poli · 12-04-2010, 06:57 AM

I'm enjoying all these hacked up pronunciations!

RainMaker · 12-04-2010, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhlloy

These WC's were going to "new", developing markets whether we like it or not I think. Going to be a while before traditional markets like the US and UK get another shot now.

If we're talking about developing markets for soccer though, wouldn't the U.S. fit the bill? We've slowly built a niche for the game and we have a league that is succesful in many major cities. It's a huge step from where things were in 1994 and I would argue on the cusp of becoming a major sport by the time the WC rolls around in 2022.

Regardless, I don't even mind that it didn't go to the U.S. I had just hoped it would go to a traditional city. While it's nice to build up developing markets, it's also the biggest event in the world's most popular sport. It deserves to be in a major traditional market. That might sound elitist, but I just think it's a disservice to fans across the globe to pass up better locations.

This decision is akin to the NFL deciding to have the Super Bowl played in Des Moines, Iowa.

Neon_Chaos · 12-04-2010, 07:38 AM

Qatar has really spared no expense in trying to build themselves up as the middle east's sporting capital during the past decade. They also put in a strong bid for the 2016 Olympics.

They spent $2.8 billion dollars on the 2006 Asian Games (45 nations), and they were able to pull it off successfully.

They're hosting the 2011 Asian Cup next year, which should be a good dry run of how well they get to run multi-national football events.

Now, they're going to be putting at least $4 billion dollars in building the nine stadiums and renovating three.

Oilers9911 · 12-04-2010, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015

I may very well be ignorant when it comes to these things, but what is to stop the Al Queda from blowing up the stadium when the US is playing when the games are right in their backyard?

There have been more Al Qaede attacks in the US than in Qatar.

bronconick · 12-04-2010, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oilers9911

There have been more Al Qaede attacks in the US than in Qatar.

Well, yeah, they're paying them off.

Qatar buys off Al-Qaeda attacks with oil millions - Times Online

Oilers9911 · 12-04-2010, 08:15 AM

Perhaps, but that doesn't change the fact.

Qatar is a ridiculous choice but I don't think security is at the top of the list of reasons why.

Abe Sargent · 12-04-2010, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIJB#19

Actually, Curacao became an independant country about a month ago and before that in the sports world was part of the Netherlands Antilles.

It's still part of the Kingdom

Young Drachma · 12-04-2010, 10:15 AM

No accident that the last Olympics/World Cup the US hosted was the shady Salt Lake City bid. That's just how the game is played now.

Young Drachma · 12-04-2010, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

It's still part of the Kingdom

Curacao and St. Maarten are still separate countries though, akin to the countries in the UK. St. Maarten is already a member of CONCACAF and one would expect Curacao to follow at some point just like the Netherlands Antilles had their own side. I'd imagine anyone good enough would go play at a super high level would go play for the Oranje while they were still young enough to be developed, but still...

Abe Sargent · 12-04-2010, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Curacao and St. Maarten are still separate countries though, akin to the countries in the UK.

Which is why I was including it on a list of things similar to Scotland, N Ireland and Wales and England being on different teams, because they are akin to each other.

stevew · 12-04-2010, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poli

I'm enjoying all these hacked up pronunciations!

I didn't realize it was prounounced Cutter. I was thinking it was Qwa-TAR

Ryan S · 12-04-2010, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew

I didn't realize it was prounounced Cutter. I was thinking it was Qwa-TAR

I have never heard it pronounced any way other than KA-TAR

sovereignstar v2 · 12-04-2010, 01:15 PM

http://www.slate.com/id/2074824/

This has some sound links too -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar

stevew · 12-04-2010, 01:17 PM

MIJB#19 · 12-04-2010, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

It's still part of the Kingdom

Interesting. I've never considered it as a similar situation, but you could be right here.

ColtCrazy · 12-04-2010, 05:19 PM

I'd much rather travel to Qatar to see the WC than Russia. I was looking into teaching in Dubai before my wife landed a job, and I remember reading lots of positive things about both Dubai and Qatar. I'd love to go their during the WC. My father would be 74 then, and hopefully still with me, so I'll take him over there. My wife wouldn't go near there.

sterlingice · 12-04-2010, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Qatar has really spared no expense in trying to build themselves up as the middle east's sporting capital during the past decade. They also put in a strong bid for the 2016 Olympics.

They spent $2.8 billion dollars on the 2006 Asian Games (45 nations), and they were able to pull it off successfully.

They're hosting the 2011 Asian Cup next year, which should be a good dry run of how well they get to run multi-national football events.

Now, they're going to be putting at least $4 billion dollars in building the nine stadiums and renovating three.

I guess if we want to talk about reinvesting oil money into other creating other industries for your country (in this case, tourism), you could do worse, I suppose.

SI

DanGarion · 12-04-2010, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronconick

Well, yeah, they're paying them off.

Qatar buys off Al-Qaeda attacks with oil millions - Times Online

The US should boycott the WC then, since Qatar is contributing the deaths of thousands of Americans.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 12-14-2010, 02:46 PM

Newsweek's Jonathan Alter reports on twitter that a trusted source of his tells him most members of the selection committee received $10 million bribes from Qatar.

sovereignstar v2 · 12-14-2010, 02:49 PM

In other news, Lance Bass is gay.

lighthousekeeper · 12-14-2010, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

Newsweek's Jonathan Alter reports on twitter that a trusted source of his tells him most members of the selection committee received $10 million bribes from Qatar.

now i know what job i want when i grow up.

DaddyTorgo · 12-14-2010, 03:30 PM

Seriously. That's absurd. I mean sure...we all knew they were getting payoffs, but that's just nuts.

JonInMiddleGA · 12-14-2010, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2

In other news, Lance Bass is gay.

Speaking of which ...

Gay rights group wants apology from FIFA's Sepp Blatter for comments - ESPN

LONDON -- A leading international gay rights group demanded an official apology Tuesday from FIFA following Sepp Blatter's comment about homosexual fans traveling to Qatar for the 2022 World Cup.

The president of the world soccer governing body said Monday that gay fans "should refrain from any sexual activities" during the World Cup in Qatar, where homosexual behavior is illegal.

Juris Lavrikovs, communications director for the European branch of the International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association, said the comments were "very unfortunate and have left people deeply offended."

... Blatter spoke Monday in South Africa at the launch of a post-2010 World Cup legacy project. He was asked if he could foresee any cultural problems with the tournament being held in Qatar.

"I'd say they [gay fans] should refrain from any sexual activities," he said, smiling.

molson · 12-14-2010, 04:34 PM

I think the gays, especially the flamboyant ones, should really descend full force on Qatar. Turn it into the Castro street of the middle east. Aside from briefcases loaded with cash, the main appeal of Qatar is that it's a "new/emerging" international locale, and I think that would definitely help in that transition.

cthomer5000 · 01-07-2011, 07:07 AM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/feedarticle/9439415

Quote:

The 2022 World Cup in Qatar will probably be staged in January rather than June or July, FIFA president Sepp Blatter said for the first time on Friday.
Speaking to a media roundtable in the Qatari capital before the opening match of the Asian Cup, he said: "I expect it will be held in the winter. We have time to look at this question, it is still 11 years away but we must decide the most adequate period for a successful world cup which means January or the end of the year."

What a fucking joke. On what grounds exactly was Qatar awarded the WC at this point?

MIJB#19 · 01-07-2011, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cthomer5000

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/feedarticle/9439415

What a fucking joke. On what grounds exactly was Qatar awarded the WC at this point?

insert hands exchanging money image here

Lathum · 01-07-2011, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molson

the gays, .

The gays is what my wife's grandmother calls them, she is 87 and from west Texas.

DaddyTorgo · 01-07-2011, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cthomer5000

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/feedarticle/9439415

What a fucking joke. On what grounds exactly was Qatar awarded the WC at this point?

Seriously. Fucking stupid.

molson · 01-07-2011, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

The gays is what my wife's grandmother calls them, she is 87 and from west Texas.

I was being a little tongue in cheek there, and I think the phrase "the gays" is funny.

cthomer5000 · 01-07-2011, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIJB#19

insert hands exchanging money image here

It's just becoming so obvious that it is absurd.

DaddyTorgo · 01-07-2011, 11:11 AM

They can't possibly move it to January - all the changes that would force in qualifying match dates, let alone the dates of the WC and preparation camps and recovery would fuck up every European (and most non-European) league schedules. That's ridiculous.

Arles · 01-07-2011, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

They can't possibly move it to January - all the changes that would force in qualifying match dates, let alone the dates of the WC and preparation camps and recovery would fuck up every European (and most non-European) league schedules. That's ridiculous.

This. The whole process is looking like a disaster. But, for $10 mil a pop, I bet they'd agree to hold it in the Sahara Desert with animal bones as soccer goals.

I. J. Reilly · 01-07-2011, 12:08 PM

It’s almost like everyone responsible for the decision is suddenly so wealthy that they don’t care about the repercussions. And I expect to see some stupid comment from Blatter in the near future, probably about women this time, to divert attention away from the corruption. He’s a buffoon like a fox.

Galaxy · 01-07-2011, 12:22 PM

Are club teams required to let its players go?

Galaxy · 01-07-2011, 12:24 PM

Premier League bosses pile on.

BBC Sport - Football - Premier League bosses criticise 2022 Cup switch plan

Passacaglia · 01-07-2011, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy

Are club teams required to let its players go?

That will be a moot issue when in 2019 they announce that only Qatari players will be eligible.

TroyF · 01-07-2011, 01:25 PM

Lets just bash the IOC.

hxxp://sports.espn.go.com/oly/news/story?id=5998254

cougarfreak · 01-07-2011, 02:16 PM

What happened to these majestic air conditioned stadiums?

stevew · 01-07-2011, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

They can't possibly move it to January - all the changes that would force in qualifying match dates, let alone the dates of the WC and preparation camps and recovery would fuck up every European (and most non-European) league schedules. That's ridiculous.

Plus it's right in the middle of the NFL playoffs.

Chief Rum · 01-07-2011, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I. J. Reilly

It’s almost like everyone responsible for the decision is suddenly so wealthy that they don’t care about the repercussions. And I expect to see some stupid comment from Blatter in the near future, probably about women this time, to divert attention away from the corruption. He’s a buffoon like a fox.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TroyF

Lets just bash the IOC.

hxxp://sports.espn.go.com/oly/news/story?id=5998254

Headline of article: Sepp Blatter likens IOC to housewife

Awesomely predictable.

bronconick · 01-07-2011, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew

Plus it's right in the middle of the NFL playoffs.

European FIFA heads: "Why did our American ratings drop 80%?"

"No clue."

Logan · 01-07-2011, 03:11 PM

Yeah, I'm sure it was like this in other cities too but NYC bars were packed left and right for many of the games, not only just USA. They did a nice job embracing the event and marketing to those with backgrounds in different countries, which is no surprise with the amount of money they stood to make. But put that in place when the playoffs are going on and you're unlikely to see any bump in sales.

Lathum · 01-07-2011, 03:15 PM

The WC would get virtually zero coverage from major sport networks during the NFL playoffs.

cougarfreak · 01-07-2011, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

The WC would get virtually zero coverage from major sport networks during the NFL playoffs.

And probably rightly so in American. I love soccer.......but I'm not sure I'd watch it in the middle of the NFL playoffs unless it was a hell of matchup.

BishopMVP · 01-07-2011, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

They can't possibly move it to January - all the changes that would force in qualifying match dates, let alone the dates of the WC and preparation camps and recovery would fuck up every European (and most non-European) league schedules. That's ridiculous.

Finally, MLS is ahead of the curve!

Big Fo · 01-07-2011, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cougarfreak

And probably rightly so in American. I love soccer.......but I'm not sure I'd watch it in the middle of the NFL playoffs unless it was a hell of matchup.

With the playoffs taking place on Saturday afternoon/night and Sunday afternoon and the World Cup being played in a country eight hours ahead of US time throughout the week, there would be few conflicts.

I'd rather watch the World Cup anyway.

Passacaglia · 01-08-2011, 07:45 AM

Also, it's cold out -- people aren't going to hit up bars before or after work then -- they'll go home.

Lathum · 01-08-2011, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Fo

With the playoffs taking place on Saturday afternoon/night and Sunday afternoon and the World Cup being played in a country eight hours ahead of US time throughout the week, there would be few conflicts.

While this is true most people only have limited time to watch games and they would chose NLF over WC every time unless the US was playing.

For example, it is 7 AM and I am getting ready to head to Home Depot so I can fix a shelf, install a towel rack, and put up a baby gate. Then I will take my kid to the aquarium, eat breakfast with him and play for a bit. All before 1:30 so I can then watch the games.

If there was a WC game on this morning I would not be watching it.

12-03-2010, 03:24 PM	#151
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Just looked it up and Greenland is part of the NF Board not FIFA, sorry, my bad. Unless you count the NF Board. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

12-04-2010, 06:57 AM	#153
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I'm enjoying all these hacked up pronunciations! __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

12-04-2010, 07:38 AM	#155
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Qatar has really spared no expense in trying to build themselves up as the middle east's sporting capital during the past decade. They also put in a strong bid for the 2016 Olympics. They spent $2.8 billion dollars on the 2006 Asian Games (45 nations), and they were able to pull it off successfully. They're hosting the 2011 Asian Cup next year, which should be a good dry run of how well they get to run multi-national football events. Now, they're going to be putting at least $4 billion dollars in building the nine stadiums and renovating three. __________________ Come and see.

12-04-2010, 10:15 AM	#160
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	No accident that the last Olympics/World Cup the US hosted was the shady Salt Lake City bid. That's just how the game is played now. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods

12-04-2010, 01:15 PM	#165
sovereignstar v2 hates iowa Join Date: Oct 2010	Pronunciation http://www.slate.com/id/2074824/ This has some sound links too -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar Last edited by sovereignstar v2 : 12-04-2010 at 01:17 PM.

12-04-2010, 08:15 AM	#158
Oilers9911 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2006	Perhaps, but that doesn't change the fact. Qatar is a ridiculous choice but I don't think security is at the top of the list of reasons why.

12-04-2010, 01:17 PM	#166
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'

12-04-2010, 05:19 PM	#168
ColtCrazy College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Midwest	I'd much rather travel to Qatar to see the WC than Russia. I was looking into teaching in Dubai before my wife landed a job, and I remember reading lots of positive things about both Dubai and Qatar. I'd love to go their during the WC. My father would be 74 then, and hopefully still with me, so I'll take him over there. My wife wouldn't go near there. __________________ The Field Generals and Statis Pro Basketball Super League

12-14-2010, 02:46 PM	#171
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	Newsweek's Jonathan Alter reports on twitter that a trusted source of his tells him most members of the selection committee received $10 million bribes from Qatar. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

12-14-2010, 02:49 PM	#172
sovereignstar v2 hates iowa Join Date: Oct 2010	In other news, Lance Bass is gay.

12-14-2010, 03:30 PM	#174
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Seriously. That's absurd. I mean sure...we all knew they were getting payoffs, but that's just nuts. Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 12-14-2010 at 04:25 PM.

12-14-2010, 04:34 PM	#176
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	I think the gays, especially the flamboyant ones, should really descend full force on Qatar. Turn it into the Castro street of the middle east. Aside from briefcases loaded with cash, the main appeal of Qatar is that it's a "new/emerging" international locale, and I think that would definitely help in that transition.

01-07-2011, 11:11 AM	#183
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	They can't possibly move it to January - all the changes that would force in qualifying match dates, let alone the dates of the WC and preparation camps and recovery would fuck up every European (and most non-European) league schedules. That's ridiculous.

01-07-2011, 12:08 PM	#185
I. J. Reilly College Prospect Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: An Oregonian deep in the heart of Texas.	It’s almost like everyone responsible for the decision is suddenly so wealthy that they don’t care about the repercussions. And I expect to see some stupid comment from Blatter in the near future, probably about women this time, to divert attention away from the corruption. He’s a buffoon like a fox.

01-07-2011, 12:22 PM	#186
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	Are club teams required to let its players go?

01-07-2011, 12:24 PM	#187
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	Premier League bosses pile on. BBC Sport - Football - Premier League bosses criticise 2022 Cup switch plan

01-07-2011, 01:25 PM	#189
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Lets just bash the IOC. hxxp://sports.espn.go.com/oly/news/story?id=5998254

01-07-2011, 02:16 PM	#190
cougarfreak College Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Out of Grad School Hell :)	What happened to these majestic air conditioned stadiums? __________________ “I don’t like the Cubs,” Joey Votto said. “And I’m not going to pat anybody with a Cubs uniform on the back."

01-07-2011, 03:11 PM	#194
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Yeah, I'm sure it was like this in other cities too but NYC bars were packed left and right for many of the games, not only just USA. They did a nice job embracing the event and marketing to those with backgrounds in different countries, which is no surprise with the amount of money they stood to make. But put that in place when the playoffs are going on and you're unlikely to see any bump in sales.

01-07-2011, 03:15 PM	#195
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	The WC would get virtually zero coverage from major sport networks during the NFL playoffs.

01-08-2011, 07:45 AM	#199
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Also, it's cold out -- people aren't going to hit up bars before or after work then -- they'll go home.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)