WW CLVIII - The Princess Bride Returns (Game Over: Wolves Win!!!)

[KatyLied]

I know I'm not Grandpa, and murrayyyy's reaction seemed pretty legit to me, so I'm a bit perplexed about the do-over. I was watching the last 1/2 hour of D1 fairly closely and was pretty confident that the lynch had moved off me, so I wouldn't have used the Grandpa powers even if I had them.

[Narcizo]

Oh well, I had been hoping to get some wolfy voters on me but stupid time zones intervene. I actually thought I would be revealed when I used my power on Monday but no. I'm grandpa. As I'm basically vanilla I don't see any reason not to reveal if its going to help make a better decision today. Ideally I'd wait till an hour before deadline but I can't.

God I hate writing on the iPad. Anyway you can pretty much see why I used my power on day one. Any other possible use of the power requires me to be around at deadline. Although I was pretty pressed to think of any really good use of it even if I was around then. Sorry I don't have much more to add.

[murrayyyyy]

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

Okay, I'm going to go back to a theory with the items. I think the wheelbarrow is more valuable to a wolf. Wheelbarrow - JAG (99), The Jackal (108), Danny (118), path12 (171), Narcizo (172), Autumn (179), Britrock (221), Zinto(247).

Now it's a stretch but I doubt a wolf would go for that item and be on the dead body both days so for now I'm ruling out Jag and Danny. Path and Autumn went for it too so that's four names off the list above leaving: The Jackal, Narcizo, Britrock and Zinto. I figure at least 2 wolves went for it so it's a 50/50 shot off that list. Jackal, Brit, Zinto voted for path. Narcizo has stayed clear of the dead body both days...
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correction, all four voted for the dead body so out of the group everyone has cast a vote for one of the dead. For some reason I got confused when DQ and Path were flipped in the counts. Still think two of those four are a wolf.

[JAG]

Ok, well that clears that up.

[murrayyyyy]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Oh well, I had been hoping to get some wolfy voters on me but stupid time zones intervene. I actually thought I would be revealed when I used my power on Monday but no. I'm grandpa. As I'm basically vanilla I don't see any reason not to reveal if its going to help make a better decision today. Ideally I'd wait till an hour before deadline but I can't.

God I hate writing on the iPad. Anyway you can pretty much see why I used my power on day one. Any other possible use of the power requires me to be around at deadline. Although I was pretty pressed to think of any really good use of it even if I was around then. Sorry I don't have much more to add.

If true then I would narrow it down to Jackal, Brit or Zinto to vote for today.

Still early so I'll go ahead and change my vote to one of them.

unvote Narcizo
vote Jackal

[JAG]

Jackal 2 - Danny (666), murrayyyyy (755)
Chief Rum 1 - PackerFanatic (739)
DaddyTorgo 1 - Narcizo (690)
mauchow 1 - CoffeeWarlord (715)
Narcizo 1 - DQ_BOY1000 (681)
Zinto 1 - Jackal (719)

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Some would argue that the BG role is overpowered for the village.

I dunno. Maybe I just suck, but in all the games I've been a bodyguard, I've pulled off a successful block like once, ever. I can't ever recall a game where it happens very often.

[Coffee Warlord]

Which, if we trust murray for a moment, that leaves...

DT, font, Jackal, Danny as unknowns on path, with Danny moving off not long after.

[Coffee Warlord]

And that's pre-reveal votes on path, to clarify.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

path12 6 - Narcizo (395), Danny (451), murrayyyyy (477), DaddyTorgo (501), fontisian (522), The Jackal (555)
DQ_BOY1000 5 - JAG (340), path12 (410), mauchow (481), Zinto (488), Coffee Warlord (545)
JAG 4 - britrock88 (423), Chief Rum (465), DQ_BOY1000 (512), KatyLied (554)
britrock88 3 - Lathum (333), PackerFanatic (406), Autumn (525)

From a bit before a lot of movement, here.

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

DQ_BOY1000 9 - JAG (340), path12 (410), mauchow (481), Zinto (488), Coffee Warlord (545), Lathum (562), brit (576), Autumn (578), Danny (584)
path12 5 - Narcizo (395), murrayyyyy (477), DaddyTorgo (501), fontisian (522), The Jackal (555),
JAG 3 - Chief Rum (465), DQ_BOY1000 (512), KatyLied (554)
britrock88 1 - PackerFanatic (406)

Just before reveal.

Looking at the path voters from D2, I think DT's looks the most suspicious being right in the middle and one of the few in my 'neutral trust' list that didn't change (though to be fair he may not have been around). Going to go with that for now.

Vote DaddyTorgo

[Lathum]

I didn't like DT and Brits plays on D1, doesn't look like much sight is being paid attention to Brit today, so I will go the other way

VOTE DADDYTORGO

[Lathum]

VOTE DADDYTORGO

[Coffee Warlord]

Was just looking back at D1vA, DT shows up again, this time on me. Not worth much to anyone else, but it's interesting to me.

[Coffee Warlord]

Except now I'd have to vote alongside Lathum. That's scary.

[JAG]

DaddyTorgo 3 - Narcizo (690), JAG (760), Lathum (762)
Jackal 2 - Danny (666), murrayyyyy (755)
Chief Rum 1 - PackerFanatic (739)
mauchow 1 - CoffeeWarlord (715)
Narcizo 1 - DQ_BOY1000 (681)
Zinto 1 - Jackal (719)

[Coffee Warlord]

And now I'd be putting a 4th vote on DT early in the day, after 2 rapid fire votes. Well shit.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Except now I'd have to vote alongside Lathum. That's scary.

I agree I have no clue what I am doing I just have fun getting DT riled up.

[Coffee Warlord]

Eh, fuckit. Conspiracy theories commence, but I feel okay with a DT push.

Unvote Mau
Vote DT

[Coffee Warlord]

Still perfectly okay with moving back to mau, I might add. But nobody else seems to agree.

[mauchow]

What a fuckin week at work. Tomorrow my auditor will very likely be here. So tomorrows day sucks for me too. I'll be home tonight though so will be around at deadline.

[mauchow]

Headed to hospital to feed baby girl and will put in a vote there or shortly after 7central wheb I get a chance to catch up.

[fontisian]

Can't say I like this run on DT.

Vote Julio Ridols again with the hope that it will actually take off this time. Though, this level of UTR is beyond mere scumminess.

[The Jackal]

unvote Zinto
vote Julio Riddols

We harped on Katy D1, need to try and get some activity out of JR... there's been nothing. I'm comfortable with Zinto, mau, and DT as candidates if this doesn't gain traction, aside from the fact that it would be playing with fire to lynch two people in a row who might not be around at deadlines.

[Chief Rum]

I am curious if Julio is actually playing. He doesn't seem to be aware he is, and last night, Raiders Army came in and acted like he was playing, but he is not in the players' list.

So I don't eevn know what's going on there.

[Lathum]

My take on RA was EF PMed him an invite

[The Jackal]

unvote Julio Riddols

Alright, but I'd still like to know what's happening there. Unsettling.

[Coffee Warlord]

Daresay EF needs to shoot an IM over to Julio and find out what's what.

[Coffee Warlord]

And if he's MIA, hopefully we can get a replacement.

[EagleFan]

Will shoot him a message.

[fontisian]

Alright then.
Unvote Julio Ridols

[Chief Rum]

What is the reasoning on DT and The Jackal again?

[The Jackal]

Danny voted me because I piggybacked off his rationale, DT has been a little quieter than usual, votes on the later side, we both voted Path. DT's vote could have been deflection from one of the other candidates, based on timing.

[Chief Rum]

Hmm, Danny is acting a little off to me. I know he's pretty busy, so that's part of it, but it seems weird to vote someone just for piggybacking ony our own analysis. And then he seems to be giving Katy Lied room as a possible Grampa even though she had made a statement that clearly indicated she was not Grampa (she later confirmed she is indeed not Grampa).

So even though he's not currently being considered, I think he's a good way to go right now.

VOTE DANNY

[fontisian]

This is preliminary, as Im not done re-reading the thread, but I think we should be looking at PF a little more after the day 1 lynch backlash and his kind of desperate reaction to it.

Vote PackerFanatic

Now I'm going to hope that someone analyses him for me while I make dinner.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by JAG

Looking at the path voters from D2, I think DT's looks the most suspicious being right in the middle and one of the few in my 'neutral trust' list that didn't change (though to be fair he may not have been around). Going to go with that for now.

Vote DaddyTorgo

Monday night? I stated that I wasn't going to be around - I was at a dinner and didn't walk in the door until after 10PM.

Nice run on me again - again being led by Lathum. Wasn't he a wolf last game when he did that, and nobody listened to me...

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Eh, fuckit. Conspiracy theories commence, but I feel okay with a DT push.

Unvote Mau
Vote DT

And you?

You same two from last game - how'd that work out that time?

At least this time you'll just be getting a vanilla villager, but still...really?

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Monday night? I stated that I wasn't going to be around - I was at a dinner and didn't walk in the door until after 10PM.

Nice run on me again - again being led by Lathum. Wasn't he a wolf last game when he did that, and nobody listened to me...

How am I leading anything on you? I'm the third person on you.

[Coffee Warlord]

Hey, last time was Day 1. This time I have irrefutable evidence you may or may not be a wolf.

[fontisian]

Tempted to vote for DT for the emotional play.

Sigh, no one looked at PF in my absense. Time to stop being lazy and actually look at him.

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Nice run on me again - again being led by Lathum. Wasn't he a wolf last game when he did that, and nobody listened to me...

He actually wasn't a wolf at that point, either. Me and Lathum are completely capable of fucking the village even when we're not wolves.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

He actually wasn't a wolf at that point, either. Me and Lathum are completely capable of fucking the village even when we're not wolves.

hi five!

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by fontisian

Tempted to vote for DT for the emotional play.

Sigh, no one looked at PF in my absense. Time to stop being lazy and actually look at him.

Go for it.

[Lathum]

I get DTs irritation, it does he has been in my crosshairs lately. That being said he is conveniently forgetting he voted me this game, so he really doesn't have a right to act indignant.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

As of post 193:

Lynch:
PackerFanatic 3 - Danny (106), Coffee Warlord (159), Chief Rum (188)
mauchow 3 - Narcizo (95), murrayyyyy (180), PackerFanatic (193)
murrayyyyy 1 - Lathum (156)
KatyLied 1 - JAG (99)
DQ_Boy1000 1 - path12 (171)

Item:
Wheelbarrow - JAG (99), The Jackal (108), Danny (118), path12 (171), Narcizo (172), Autumn (179)
Iocane Powder - fontisian (102), Lathum (154), Coffee Warlord (159), DaddyTorgo (167), murrayyyyy (180), PackerFanatic (183), Chief Rum (186)

Here's a snapshot of D1 when PF and mauchow had votes.

[fontisian]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

Since I already have two votes (WTF?), I am going to wait to put my vote down to see how things shake out. I know it's only day 1, but I still don't like already having two votes this year!

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

Why me? Given how things shook out yesterday, I would have to think there are better options.

These are the two quotes from Packer bother me. Mau also had a quick run up and down on the votes on day 1, but I think Packer is slightly more scummy. Danny also had a weird unvote of Packer once he started getting traction without any real explanation.


Thanks JAG. Looking at the votes, the two people besides PF who are on mauchow are both probable townies, baring a Grampa counter reveal. This makes me feel a bit better about him.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Hmm, Danny is acting a little off to me. I know he's pretty busy, so that's part of it, but it seems weird to vote someone just for piggybacking ony our own analysis. And then he seems to be giving Katy Lied room as a possible Grampa even though she had made a statement that clearly indicated she was not Grampa (she later confirmed she is indeed not Grampa).

So even though he's not currently being considered, I think he's a good way to go right now.

VOTE DANNY

I do find it interesting you vote Jag day 1 and then Me day 2.

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

Okay, I'm going to go back to a theory with the items. I think the wheelbarrow is more valuable to a wolf. Wheelbarrow - JAG (99), The Jackal (108), Danny (118), path12 (171), Narcizo (172), Autumn (179), Britrock (221), Zinto(247).

Now it's a stretch but I doubt a wolf would go for that item and be on the dead body both days so for now I'm ruling out Jag and Danny. Path and Autumn went for it too so that's four names off the list above leaving: The Jackal, Narcizo, Britrock and Zinto. I figure at least 2 wolves went for it so it's a 50/50 shot off that list. Jackal, Brit, Zinto voted for path. Narcizo has stayed clear of the dead body both days...

May change later but for now...

vote Narcizo

I don't understand why you ruled out Danny and Jag. And, I don't think the wolves would kill Autumn if the majority of them are on the wheelbarrow. They wouldn't want that list to shrink to the point that only they were on it or there was only them and a couple of villagers.

[DaddyTorgo]

*Yawn* Go for it.

VOTE DADDYTORGO

[Danny]

I am actually feeling really good about my vote where it is right now. I dont ill be changing.

[Zinto]

I am also a bit biased since I am on that list.