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murrayyyyy · 09-17-2013, 11:15 AM

vote britrock88

murrayyyyy · 09-17-2013, 11:16 AM

No other reason as it's about to get busy at work and I don't want to forget. Won't effect the Mau vote if the theory of killing votes from the future is true.

Autumn · 09-17-2013, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

Do you think that if we jump ahead and it's D3, and mau is dead, then jump back and it's say .. D-1, that mau would be able to participate as long as it was anytime before D2?

Well, EF's answer about death seemed to suggest that isn't hte case. Sounds like when you're dead, you're dead.

The Jackal · 09-17-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JAG

The mechanics talk is cool and interesting, but I think at this point we're better off trying to parse what we can from D1 to try and make a decent vote today.

I tend to agree with this, but it's good to get ideas out there at least. Still trying to wrap my head around how much time shifting we could see, and how the game could end in that case. I imagine at some point we won't be able to shift anymore (maybe if Doc dies) and time will only move forwards.

The Jackal · 09-17-2013, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

Well, EF's answer about death seemed to suggest that isn't hte case. Sounds like when you're dead, you're dead.

Yeah, that's what I was reading from EF's post as well.

However I'm seeing merit in what Chief is saying - so as of now we can't go behind past D-3, and once we hit tomorrow, whatever time zone we are in, we wouldn't be able to come back to D-3, only D-2, and so on.

So there's still the chance that unless we lynch mau before D2, he'd be alive on any days in which the thread is before D2, but would be "dead" if we were to shift into the future beyond D1.

The Jackal · 09-17-2013, 11:24 AM

I'm not suggesting that we -should- lynch mau or anything, just using him as a theoretical example since that's the only "result" we've gotten.

Zinto · 09-17-2013, 11:26 AM

I think that we should try not to vote based on theories about the mechanics. Mau and Schmidty voters should be voted if that is where you want to vote. More then likely we will be wrong or only partially right on how the mechanics work. Once we have a better idea we can start planning for the present and the future.

Narcizo · 09-17-2013, 11:44 AM

Urk! This talk about time travel is doing my head. Particularly by Chief.

I have to say that I want to vote Autumn at the moment because he's pinging me somehow. But I'd rather have discussion etc etc, even if that leaves me out in the cold because I don't have the time to get involved.

Narcizo · 09-17-2013, 11:47 AM

Vote Chief Rum

Narcizo · 09-17-2013, 11:49 AM

For hurting my head and his theories could just be the sort of blind alleys a Wolf Rum would come up with to a) muddy the waters, b) make it look like he's contributing and c) something else.

I, on the other hand, shall contribute very little and not muddy the waters.

mauchow · 09-17-2013, 11:49 AM

Oh hai!

Narcizo · 09-17-2013, 11:51 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTP2RUD_cL0

Surely the defining video of the MTV era. Utter bilge.

mauchow · 09-17-2013, 12:10 PM

Wow I almost got the day one shaft!!

Sorry for not peeking in here earlier. I just remembered the game when I accidentally hit my werewolf bookmark on my phone. Silly me.

Anyhoo. I agree with those that think if we lynch a mau voter their vote won't count on day one thus creating a new tally and me living. So I say we go that route.

EagleFan · 09-17-2013, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Narcizo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTP2RUD_cL0

Surely the defining video of the MTV era. Utter bilge.

Link fail... (not available in this country it says)

Autumn · 09-17-2013, 12:29 PM

But why do we want you alive, Mau? This seems even better. We get to hear your posts, get your votes, and then later you die and we find out what they meant. Best Day 1 lynch ever!

britrock88 · 09-17-2013, 12:29 PM

I am going to keep at the tack of voting for no-shows for now.

britrock88 · 09-17-2013, 12:29 PM

Vote Schmidty

Danny · 09-17-2013, 01:02 PM

Doubt I can contribute anything until I get home around 6 eastern today

Autumn · 09-17-2013, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Narcizo

That's probably my vast contribution to today's proceedings.

Except I feel that Zinto is alright.

Looking back, what would make you say this, Narc? I don't see anything in Zinto's posts before this to make me think one way or the other.

Autumn · 09-17-2013, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG

Unvote saldana
Vote Narcizo

JAG, you don't strike me as one that normally makes D1 switches for little to no reason (you're no Danny). Why the early vote movement?

Autumn · 09-17-2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Narcizo

Schmidty wrote the UTR book before NTN even knew there was a radar to fly under. Or that he could fly. Or that.

And Narc, why the change from Jackal to Schmidty? Jackal was in the "lead" 2-2 before this move.

Autumn · 09-17-2013, 01:22 PM

Finished my reread of the thread. tehre's a lot of people I'm hoping to hear more from today.

mauchow · 09-17-2013, 01:39 PM

vote goldeneagle

fontisian · 09-17-2013, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mauchow

Wow I almost got the day one shaft!!

Sorry for not peeking in here earlier. I just remembered the game when I accidentally hit my werewolf bookmark on my phone. Silly me.

Anyhoo. I agree with those that think if we lynch a mau voter their vote won't count on day one thus creating a new tally and me living. So I say we go that route.

Mau, I get why you would want to live, but you were ahead by three votes. Even if we don't time travel anymore, we only have three days until day 1. You're asking us to 1.assume that we can actually stop you from being lynched by killing the people voting for you and 2. spend three days voting for the people on you just to save someone who may or may not be town/ Even then, the votes would result in a no lynch, killing someone on your's or Smidty's wagon (assuming the people voting for Schmidty and Schmidty himself don't die in the meantime). The only way to fully get the lynch off you (assuming a whole buttload of assumptions I've made about game mechanics are correct) is if people with night kills (aka scum) kill the people voting for you, which is pretty damn suspicious.

So uh, why are you voting for GE again?

Narcizo · 09-17-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Link fail... (not available in this country it says)

Works fine for me. Stupid foreigners and your stupid Interweb.

Narcizo · 09-17-2013, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

And Narc, why the change from Jackal to Schmidty? Jackal was in the "lead" 2-2 before this move.

"Day One Reasons". Didn't really want to vote teh Jackal on day one.

Narcizo · 09-17-2013, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

Looking back, what would make you say this, Narc? I don't see anything in Zinto's posts before this to make me think one way or the other.

Crikey, you're Mr Inquisitive today.

I believe his line of reasoning was indicative of him being a vanilla villager. Nothing like a fast read or anything but enough to make me want to mention it in a desperate bid to make things a bit more interesting.

Narcizo · 09-17-2013, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Narcizo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTP2RUD_cL0

Surely the defining video of the MTV era. Utter bilge.

Everybody which video I'm refering to. A defining video of the early MTV age that is utter bilge. Now there's a narrow field.

Narcizo · 09-17-2013, 02:39 PM

Everybody! Which video am I refering to?

JAG · 09-17-2013, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

I think brtirock placed an early vote on me, so by that speculation you should also be looking at him as well.

No, because three people voted brit by the end of the day. What part of what I said means I should be looking at brit?

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

It is Day 1. It is hard to formulate a case for anyone at this point. I mean, neither mau or Schmidty checked in, so i just had to chose one or the other. At the time, it was tied and then some others came in and voted behind me. I didn't even place the deciding vote.

You seem kind of defensive about this vote to me.

Narcizo · 09-17-2013, 02:42 PM

Look. Nark's first computer

Imagine all the fun games one could play on this.

JAG · 09-17-2013, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Narcizo

For hurting my head and his theories could just be the sort of blind alleys a Wolf Rum would come up with to a) muddy the waters, b) make it look like he's contributing and c) something else.

I thought the same, which is a shame since he was the only one I felt better than neutral about from D1. I'm in wait and see mode there.

JAG · 09-17-2013, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

But why do we want you alive, Mau? This seems even better. We get to hear your posts, get your votes, and then later you die and we find out what they meant. Best Day 1 lynch ever!

Good point (and funny).

Narcizo · 09-17-2013, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Narcizo

Everybody! Which video am I refering to?

Anyone seen the British "Pop" "Quiz" show "Never Mind the Buzzcocks"? They have an intro guessing round in that, where two of the participants have to sound like the intro to a (normally not in the slightest) famous song. Here's my rendition.

Nuh-nur! Nununur Nu-nu-nununurr! Nuh-nur! Nuh-nuh Nurrrr Nurrrrr!

JAG · 09-17-2013, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by britrock88

I am going to keep at the tack of voting for no-shows for now.

Any other thoughts to this point? Votes from the past couple days, other people, etc.?

Narcizo · 09-17-2013, 02:53 PM

Ahhh! The old Vote-for-no-shows conundrum.

I thought the accepted practice was to not-vote-for-no-shows and hope the GM can replace them. I thought pushing to vote-for-no-shows is a vaguely wolfy tell.

In fact I've been finding Britrock almost as pingy as Autumn. And as the all-new instincts not fact-based Nark I'm testing out I think I will

JAG · 09-17-2013, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

JAG, you don't strike me as one that normally makes D1 switches for little to no reason (you're no Danny). Why the early vote movement?

I gave my reasonings after the vote each time. Sal was just a random.org vote since we haven't played for a while. Then after the 49ers got clobbered, I didn't want to vote sal because I felt bad for him.

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Originally Posted by JAG

1. saldana is probably in some pain after the game last night.
2. Narcizo didn't give me reading material when I woke up. Bad Nark.

Later switched to DT due to check in without vote. Also, I wouldn't want to vote Narcizo out without getting at least one vote chart.

Narcizo · 09-17-2013, 02:54 PM

Unvote Chief Rum
Vote Britrock

Narcizo · 09-17-2013, 02:55 PM

Bad JAG spoiling my explanation-vote dola.

Narcizo · 09-17-2013, 02:55 PM

That's enough nonsense from me today.

Autumn · 09-17-2013, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG

I gave my reasonings after the vote each time. Sal was just a random.org vote since we haven't played for a while. Then after the 49ers got clobbered, I didn't want to vote sal because I felt bad for him.

Later switched to DT due to check in without vote. Also, I wouldn't want to vote Narcizo out without getting at least one vote chart.

Right, I just was surprised you switched from one Day 1-style vote (Sal) to another, for another D1 reason. Your move to DT made sense to me. I just don't peg you for a guy who switches off a random vote to another random vote (but maybe you take Saldana's feelings about football more seriously than I do).

mauchow · 09-17-2013, 03:00 PM

Font- cuz!

Autumn · 09-17-2013, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Narcizo

Ahhh! The old Vote-for-no-shows conundrum.

I thought the accepted practice was to not-vote-for-no-shows and hope the GM can replace them. I thought pushing to vote-for-no-shows is a vaguely wolfy tell.

In fact I've been finding Britrock almost as pingy as Autumn. And as the all-new instincts not fact-based Nark I'm testing out I think I will

Ironically Brit has not been pinging me at all. You haven't either, so that doesn't get me anywhere.

And I will say that yes, absolutely I normally argue against voting out no-shows. But I just feel we've had a long string of games that have been hurt by no-shows and low-posters, where we get six days in and those people show up and are still alive but there's nothing to judge them by. I'd almost rather shoot ourselves in the foot than vote off active players in order to keep no-shows around and hope they start talking. But that's totally frustration talking, it's not a rational approach at all.

Autumn · 09-17-2013, 03:02 PM

Anyone have a vote count?

JAG · 09-17-2013, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

As of post 230:

GoldenEagle 1 - JAG (211)
KWhit 1 - Autumn (229)

Jackal Mau also voted GE
Narc and murray vote brit
Brit votes Schmidty

Lots of no votes with +3s out there.

Autumn · 09-17-2013, 03:08 PM

UNVOTE KWHIT
VOTE THE JACKAL

Autumn · 09-17-2013, 03:10 PM

My vote on Kwhit was simploy for low posting. Now that I've reread the thread I have a few people I have quesiton marks on. Jackal is one, and the way he followed JAG's vote on GE felt a bit fishy to me. GE is actually also on my list, but I don't expect my whole list is correct, and he's already got votes. I don't feel like Brit is bad. Whether to vote Schmidty if he doesn't show up I'll leave until tonight to decide.

The Jackal · 09-17-2013, 03:11 PM

GE was one of the people I was leaning towards voting anyways, wasn't necessarily following JAG, but I get it. After the defensive tone of his posts I feel comfortable where I am at the moment.

The Jackal · 09-17-2013, 03:15 PM

I was originally on to GE just because of his vanilla villager check-in, whether it was intended to be humorous or not. That didn't use to bother me, but..

Autumn · 09-17-2013, 03:23 PM

No, I agree with you there, I had a little mark down on him about that. and I think Britrock also called him on that (right?) which I think is why I felt a bit better about Brit.

09-17-2013, 11:15 AM	#251
murrayyyyy College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Las Vegas	vote britrock88

09-17-2013, 11:16 AM	#252
murrayyyyy College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Las Vegas	No other reason as it's about to get busy at work and I don't want to forget. Won't effect the Mau vote if the theory of killing votes from the future is true.

09-17-2013, 11:24 AM	#256
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I'm not suggesting that we -should- lynch mau or anything, just using him as a theoretical example since that's the only "result" we've gotten.

09-17-2013, 11:26 AM	#257
Zinto College Starter Join Date: Jan 2011	I think that we should try not to vote based on theories about the mechanics. Mau and Schmidty voters should be voted if that is where you want to vote. More then likely we will be wrong or only partially right on how the mechanics work. Once we have a better idea we can start planning for the present and the future.

09-17-2013, 11:44 AM	#258
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Urk! This talk about time travel is doing my head. Particularly by Chief. I have to say that I want to vote Autumn at the moment because he's pinging me somehow. But I'd rather have discussion etc etc, even if that leaves me out in the cold because I don't have the time to get involved.

09-17-2013, 11:47 AM	#259
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Vote Chief Rum

09-17-2013, 11:49 AM	#260
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	For hurting my head and his theories could just be the sort of blind alleys a Wolf Rum would come up with to a) muddy the waters, b) make it look like he's contributing and c) something else. I, on the other hand, shall contribute very little and not muddy the waters.

09-17-2013, 11:49 AM	#261
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Oh hai!

09-17-2013, 11:51 AM	#262
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTP2RUD_cL0 Surely the defining video of the MTV era. Utter bilge.

09-17-2013, 12:10 PM	#263
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Wow I almost got the day one shaft!! Sorry for not peeking in here earlier. I just remembered the game when I accidentally hit my werewolf bookmark on my phone. Silly me. Anyhoo. I agree with those that think if we lynch a mau voter their vote won't count on day one thus creating a new tally and me living. So I say we go that route.

09-17-2013, 12:29 PM	#265
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	But why do we want you alive, Mau? This seems even better. We get to hear your posts, get your votes, and then later you die and we find out what they meant. Best Day 1 lynch ever!

09-17-2013, 12:29 PM	#266
britrock88 Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Madison, WI	I am going to keep at the tack of voting for no-shows for now.

09-17-2013, 12:29 PM	#267
britrock88 Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Madison, WI	Vote Schmidty

09-17-2013, 01:02 PM	#268
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Doubt I can contribute anything until I get home around 6 eastern today

09-17-2013, 01:22 PM	#272
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Finished my reread of the thread. tehre's a lot of people I'm hoping to hear more from today.

09-17-2013, 01:39 PM	#273
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	vote goldeneagle

09-17-2013, 02:39 PM	#279
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Everybody! Which video am I refering to?

09-17-2013, 02:42 PM	#281
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Look. Nark's first computer Imagine all the fun games one could play on this.

09-17-2013, 02:53 PM	#286
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Ahhh! The old Vote-for-no-shows conundrum. I thought the accepted practice was to not-vote-for-no-shows and hope the GM can replace them. I thought pushing to vote-for-no-shows is a vaguely wolfy tell. In fact I've been finding Britrock almost as pingy as Autumn. And as the all-new instincts not fact-based Nark I'm testing out I think I will

09-17-2013, 02:54 PM	#288
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Unvote Chief Rum Vote Britrock

09-17-2013, 02:55 PM	#289
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Bad JAG spoiling my explanation-vote dola.

09-17-2013, 02:55 PM	#290
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	That's enough nonsense from me today.

09-17-2013, 03:00 PM	#292
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Font- cuz!

09-17-2013, 03:02 PM	#294
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Anyone have a vote count?

09-17-2013, 03:08 PM	#296
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	UNVOTE KWHIT VOTE THE JACKAL

09-17-2013, 03:10 PM	#297
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	My vote on Kwhit was simploy for low posting. Now that I've reread the thread I have a few people I have quesiton marks on. Jackal is one, and the way he followed JAG's vote on GE felt a bit fishy to me. GE is actually also on my list, but I don't expect my whole list is correct, and he's already got votes. I don't feel like Brit is bad. Whether to vote Schmidty if he doesn't show up I'll leave until tonight to decide.

09-17-2013, 03:11 PM	#298
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	GE was one of the people I was leaning towards voting anyways, wasn't necessarily following JAG, but I get it. After the defensive tone of his posts I feel comfortable where I am at the moment.

09-17-2013, 03:15 PM	#299
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I was originally on to GE just because of his vanilla villager check-in, whether it was intended to be humorous or not. That didn't use to bother me, but..

09-17-2013, 03:23 PM	#300
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	No, I agree with you there, I had a little mark down on him about that. and I think Britrock also called him on that (right?) which I think is why I felt a bit better about Brit.

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