Werewolf CLX - Atlantic City - GAME OVER

[mauchow]

Sorry I'm all over the place this morning.. trying to get my vote in early as I don't know what my schedule is gonna be for the day.

[The Jackal]

So if we're thinking one of DV or path is cunning, D1 is probably the most interesting.

path would have been putting his teammate on the block with his other teammate as the only people with votes - granted its early and things change on D1, but that'd be a risky play.

DV on the other hand puts JAG up over both of them

[mauchow]

I wish I was on computer to help you jackal...

[The Jackal]

So based on voting records, let me know what you think CW since you said you are looking too, but DV looks slightly worse than path. Not getting a vote in two days in a row is a reason to be voted on its own, but we can't spite vote at this point.

I want to see what path has to say before I make any decisions today.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Autumn

As opposed to yesterday, today everybody is up even before dawn. The tension in the air of the city is obvious as people jostle at the newstand or rush to their doorsteps to see the paper. The front page is splashed with the headline: MURDER IN ATLANTIC CITY. It appears another body has been found, peppered with bullets in the trashed remains of his apartment. The gambler you knew as JAG has been found murdered.

Day 8 has begun.

On my way out the door and see there are two pages to catch up on from just this morning. I will detail my bets etc in a couple hours.

[Narcizo]

I'm not understanding why it's more likely that a wolf has somehow gotten the cunning ability then them being able to use Path to make a bid.

If you think there was a cunning role at the start then what does that do to the symmetry of the game? If they gained it during the game, then when? How did they gain it?

In one respect we might want to go with Path or DV - if there was a conversion then it's pretty important that we get a wolf today. Otherwise I think we should be able to bash things out once the roles are up again.

[Coffee Warlord]

Way back in the dark ages of this game, DV had pinged me early. I laid off once Narc had cleared him via scan. More will have to wait till later.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

So based on voting records, let me know what you think CW since you said you are looking too, but DV looks slightly worse than path. Not getting a vote in two days in a row is a reason to be voted on its own, but we can't spite vote at this point.

Bizarre statement if you believe that there is only one wolf left. Splitting the vote is exactly what we CAN afford to do. Or am I missing something?

[path12]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

He can always claim to have won money on bets but I doubt he'll bother/get the chance.

Y'know, this is bullshit. I have been absolutely forthcoming about everything I've done this game. If you want to suspect me that is fine but don't start fuckin' saying that I haven't been bothering to help. I've been telling you every goddamn thing that has been happening on my end, including the results from the black market, so fuck you. GAH.

Here are my bets:
D1 -- bet on Zinto after the deadline, bet didn't count.
D2 -- bet fontesian/chief rum/daddy torgo. Bid $160 for casino manager. Won $1020 for bet and got $2709 from casino manager.
D3 -- bet britrock/darth vilius. Bid $160 for Friends for life.
D4 -- bet britrock/daddy torgo. Bid $800 for seer. Won $273.
D5 -- bet murr5y/zinto. Bid $1025 for arms dealer.
D6 -- bet murr5y. Bid $3412 for hitman.
D7 -- bet britrock/mauchow. No money for bid. Won $18.

[Narcizo]

Path - this is when I thought it was either mau or you. I was pretty sure that mau was/is good so I thought that meant you're a wolf and would realise that you've been scanned as bad so wouldn't bother trying to defend yourself.

Is all.

No offence intended.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

It's path or DV.

That is path who was also scanned clean JUST LAST NIGHT for the record.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Path - this is when I thought it was either mau or you. I was pretty sure that mau was/is good so I thought that meant you're a wolf and would realise that you've been scanned as bad so wouldn't bother trying to defend yourself.

Is all.

No offence intended.

Sorry for blowing up, I'm just frustrated. After a few games where I was getting back into the swing and not playing great I felt like I've done a pretty good job for the village this game.

[Narcizo]

What worries me is that we're (well you lot) are going to presume that there's no way someone else could have got the killer yesterday so it must be Path or DV who are cunning and then if they're not and we lynch them both then we're going to be in an end game. Where we lose.

[path12]

Originally Posted by path12

Here are my bets:
D1 -- bet on Zinto after the deadline, bet didn't count.
D2 -- bet fontesian/chief rum/daddy torgo. Bid $160 for casino manager. Won $1020 for bet and got $2709 from casino manager.
D3 -- bet britrock/darth vilius. Bid $160 for Friends for life.
D4 -- bet britrock/daddy torgo. Bid $800 for seer. Won $273.
D5 -- bet murr5y/zinto. Bid $1025 for arms dealer.
D6 -- bet murr5y. Bid $3412 for hitman.
D7 -- bet britrock/mauchow. No money for bid. Won $18.

This doesn't quite seem to add up right. $1000 start, $4020 in winnings minus $4372 in bids and $18 balance makes $630 unaccounted?

I'll go back through my PM's in a little bit (have a couple things to do) but wanted to call it out before someone else did.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by path12

Sorry for blowing up, I'm just frustrated. After a few games where I was getting back into the swing and not playing great I felt like I've done a pretty good job for the village this game.

Path did you get any information about anything happening last night? Any more information about what happened when you used the hitman?

[mauchow]

Vote people.

[Narcizo]

I'm not sure that's a valid vote mau.

[Narcizo]

You have to bold it.

[Coffee Warlord]

Screw it.

Vote Darth Vilus

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Well, I can't speak tot he mystery of the missing nightkill, but I was the one who bought the seer.

It appears that Mr. JAG is squeaky clean. Actually the investigator specifically stated he spent the night "trimming his nails."

I feel much better knowing I don't have to worry about JAG as mafia.

I've been rereading my PM and wondering how to ask you something without specifically coming out with quoting the PM. But you seem to have done it anyway. I was wondering how definitive your scan of JAG was? It seems to have been more specific than my report.

Actually Jackal, what did you get on Path? You mention surveillance which seems to fit in with what Chief got but not what I got.

[Autumn]

Day 8 Voting

1 path12 ---------- mauchow (1249)
1 darth vilus ------ coffee warlord (1269)

[Narcizo]

My scan was about past records and stuff and I did react to the phrasing of the last statement. At the time I just thought it was wording that Autumn had chucked in to cover the eventuality that the wolves had got the judge. I don't know. I remember the Rome game where the village voted out people who had been cleared by the seer and it struck me as madness. But that's what we're talking about doing here.

I'm kind of running out of time to get much else done here.

[Narcizo]

And by judge I mean DA.

[Narcizo]

Screw it. Call it a punishment vote for not participating and for getting $2200 off of me. Without my clearance we wouldn't even be thinking about this given his record. Admittedly fonti put a second vote on him day two but that was when the wolves probably suspected that one of them was in trouble. DV scanned Brit despite me saying that Brit was probably going to reveal as bad and I think his reaction after Brit's death looks a bit stage-managed.

Vote Darth Vilus

My scan report seems slightly more ambiguous than Jackal's and Chief's. Something, somewhere isn't right - it might be that the wolf could make two bids. Or it could be that the wolves somehow managed to get a cunning. Or it could be that DV is some sort of non-mob, hostile role. Whatever. He's been the least helpful or active so let's kill him and see what happens.

Interested in hearing what Path has to say about his missing money. I'm wondering if the wolves can bid on a service without it being noticed. Which leads back to the DA actually having been taken. It just seemed to fantastical that the wolves wouldn't bid on it.

[Narcizo]

I'm going. I don't think I'll risk bidding on a service.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Path did you get any information about anything happening last night? Any more information about what happened when you used the hitman?

Someone is fucking with my bank account. There is now like $900 in there but all of it is unaccessable. That's the only tangible thing so far and I got that message this morning.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

I've been rereading my PM and wondering how to ask you something without specifically coming out with quoting the PM. But you seem to have done it anyway. I was wondering how definitive your scan of JAG was? It seems to have been more specific than my report.

Actually Jackal, what did you get on Path? You mention surveillance which seems to fit in with what Chief got but not what I got.

This isn't directed at me but I'll mention that when I scanned Danny I didn't get anything like what he was doing last night, Ms. Black just brought in a bunch of paperwork about how crooked he was.

[path12]

Alright, I put a quick chart together to try and piece this together with my bank account.

Bear with me, it won't format right to cut and paste:

Beg Bal Spend Win Total
D1 $1000 $0 $0 $1000 (bets in late, no bid)
D2 $1000 $160 $3729 $4569 ($1020 bet/$2709 casino mgr)
D3 $4569 $0 $0 $4569 (bid $160 on Find-a-friend)
D4 $4569 $800 $0 $3769 (bid $800 on seer, scanned Danny)
D5 $3769 $0 $0 $3769 (bid $1025 on arms dealer)
D6 $3769 $3412 $0 $357 (bid $3412 hitman, killed murra5y)
(D6 is where it gets weird. i had asked for my balance before placing that bid on the hitman and was given $3412 and then believed i was at zero balance)
D7 $357 $0 $18 $375 (did not bid since i thought was out of cash)
D8 $375 $375 (bank balance now shows $914 but is unaccessable).

I have a PM into Autumn to try and verify the discrepancy between the balance given on D6 and what this suggests. It could have something to do with the black market bid I guess.

[path12]

Well crap. I tried to get that spacing right. Oh well.

[path12]

OK, got it figured out and this will be the last thing for my bank account.

There was a typo, the $2709 I got from the casino manager should have been $2079. I also missed a $273 bet win on D4. Change those numbers and we're balanced.

That was bugging me. Now to figure out a vote.

[JAG]

For the dead folks, I started a thread and you're invited:

Out-of-game thread

[path12]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Mick "Stones" McGee - $2 - Claimed by Chief Rum
Donna Black Investigations - $5 - Claimed by Jackal
Cookie's Ladies - $1 - Claimed by Coffee
Sandy Back Messenger Service - $3 - Claimed by Narcizo

Coffee Warlord
Narcizo
Chief Rum
The Jackal
Mauchow

Darth Vilus
Path12

Unless someone comes forward and refutes the bid claims, we have 5 people who could not have used the NK last night. Out of 7. (Mau is in there because I sent him hookers).

It's path or DV.

Can't find fault with this logic as far as today goes, even as mau continues to ping me. And I know I didn't do anything, so:

VOTE DARTH VILIUS

[Coffee Warlord]

This is of course, assuming there's no crazy shenanigans with the rules we don't know. But, if we start voting based on guessing about rules, we may as well just roll a die on who to lynch.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

This is of course, assuming there's no crazy shenanigans with the rules we don't know. But, if we start voting based on guessing about rules, we may as well just roll a die on who to lynch.

Everyone but Darth has checked in today right?

[path12]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Well, I can vouch that you sent me a message, so you shouldn't be on that list.

OK, I was just wondering if Narc had sent anyone a message.

[Chief Rum]

Just a quick check in. Sorry guys. Helping my GF move. I'll check in when I can.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Bizarre statement if you believe that there is only one wolf left. Splitting the vote is exactly what we CAN afford to do. Or am I missing something?

Spite, not split

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

I've been rereading my PM and wondering how to ask you something without specifically coming out with quoting the PM. But you seem to have done it anyway. I was wondering how definitive your scan of JAG was? It seems to have been more specific than my report.

Actually Jackal, what did you get on Path? You mention surveillance which seems to fit in with what Chief got but not what I got.

Donna showed up with some documents and surveillance photos and pronounced he appeared to be clean as a whistle. Random tangent, but I really don't get that idiom.

[The Jackal]

vote DV

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by path12

Everyone but Darth has checked in today right?

DV has been quite absent.

[Autumn]

Day 8 Voting

1 path12 ---------- mauchow (1249)
4 darth vilus ------ coffee warlord (1269), narcizo (1274), path12 (1282), the jackal (1289)

[Chief Rum]

I think path has been more forthcoming and available.

VOTE DARTH VILUS

[mauchow]

Dv not showing up at all makes me feel good about him getting lynched I guess.

[mauchow]

I put in a bid for the hitman... Dunno if I already mentioned that.

[Autumn]

Deadline

[Autumn]

The shocking results of yesterday reverberate even now. News crews seem to blanket every corner in the city and the clamor outside the courthouse is insane. The nation wants to know what is happening here, and the stories of multiple murders are spread over every paper in the nation. The atmosphere is clear in Atlantic City. this mob trouble needs to be cleared up. Now.

No one is as certain as they once were, but calls come in one after another fingering a fellow named Darth Vilus. He is hauled in to the station for questioning, but he refuses to say a thing. Careful study of his hotel room show pictures taken all around the city, as if casing the joint. His guilt seems clear, and he is sent to the slammer.

Ironically it's Britrock, the former child TV star, who brings embarrassment back on the city again. "That's no mobster," he says on national TV in a shocking interview on the courthouse steps. "That guy's a photographer, you know, a paparazzi. He's been following me for months, he must have followed me here too. If he has any pictures of me, I want them destroyed."

The story holds up. Darth Vilus is no mobster, just a sleazy photographer. More egg in the face of the Atlantic City DA.

Darth Vilus was The Paparazzi. His goal was to find the Celebrity and snap some pictures.

[mauchow]

Wow. This was the game I could have been paparazzi.

Again.. the lack of participation hurts us for the second straight day. This could have been completely avoidable...

[JAG]

Originally Posted by mauchow

Wow. This was the game I could have been paparazzi.

Thread winner.

[Coffee Warlord]

Le sigh.

[Coffee Warlord]

Unless it's path, I got nothing guys.