GAME OVER POST 733 - WW - The Jihad of Muad'dib - Page 7

Darth Vilus · 01-20-2011, 02:19 PM

Ah damn, that sucks. The wolves have been pretty good at hitting roled freemen, that really blows. Hopefully we can nab one today.

I'll be around for a couple more hrs but then I'm heading out to work and I won't be back til way after deadline (I hate work)

Darth Vilus · 01-20-2011, 02:27 PM

Besides RA i don't know who to vote for, I'm not on my best game this time around. I'll hold out for a bit and vote before I leave. Unless i suddenly realize something in past posts

PackerFanatic · 01-20-2011, 03:05 PM

VOTE AUTUMN

Saving my butt and on my list of suspects. I didn't want to introduce a third suspect right now, but I obviously can't vote for myself, and Autumn is higher than RA right now to me. Would be willing to move if it benefits the team and doesn't hurt me

ntndeacon · 01-20-2011, 03:39 PM

Vote PackerFanatic

I could be convinced to change to Autumn of the three listed so far. To me RA is acting as an unlucky villager so far. I am convinced that multiple villager havve voted for only villagers so far. Mainly since that is the usual way of things.

Chief Rum · 01-20-2011, 03:57 PM

I still think we learn the most from lynching Autumn. On top of that, he looks abit more suspicious to me right now, for how quickly he jumped on PF's vote.

I don't know that dubb's theory is any better than Danny's theory yesterday about Autumn voters, or the "game theory" in that we continue to put Pass up against Autumn. I will note that, with the death of Telle, we have another villager who had voted Autumn (Day 1) who is now dead. The remaining unconfirmed voters of Autumn are Pass, myself and ntndeacon. Since I have the advantage of knowing I am a villager, that seems to me to be an awful lot of villagers to be on another villager, even if one of Pass or ntn is a wolf.

VOTE AUTUMN

Autumn · 01-20-2011, 04:06 PM

I jumped quickly on PF for two reasons - one I was waiting to see how people would vote today to give me a clue where to go. I suspect Pass and I are both villagers, and that the wolves would be eager to push the safe thought that the village stick to those two suspects. PackerFan seemed to follow that line exactly.

Secondly I knew I wouldn't be around much today and just needed to vote somewhere.

I don't think Pass makes much sense as a wolf unless I was one. No reason to stick his neck out so much and tie it, and he also seems to have picked up on things that I don't think a wolf picks up on. I wanted to go elsewhere and PackerFan stepped right into my wolf profile.

Passacaglia · 01-20-2011, 04:15 PM

VOTE CHIEF RUM

Chief Rum · 01-20-2011, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

VOTE CHIEF RUM

You know, considering your iffy voting history, any reason why you would want to drop a drive by vote and not give any reasons?

Darth Vilus · 01-20-2011, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

VOTE CHIEF RUM

Why? That came out of left field

Darth Vilus · 01-20-2011, 04:26 PM

I'm telling you guys, I do not think that Autumn is a wolf. I'd much rather go with Raiders. If it comes down to Autumn and packers I'm going to vote Packers plain and simple. just fyi.

and this is all based mostly on gut and games past

saldana · 01-20-2011, 04:44 PM

as of 310

Packerfanatic -2 (autumn @296, NTNdeacon @304)
Raiders Army - 1 (dubb93 @ 300)
Autumn - 2 (Packerfanatic @303, Chief Rum @305)
Chief Rum -1 (Passacaglia @307)

Coffee Warlord · 01-20-2011, 04:46 PM

Vote Raiders Army

And soon we break out the family atomics.

Darth Vilus · 01-20-2011, 04:49 PM

family atomics?

PackerFanatic · 01-20-2011, 04:53 PM

I think that's two days in a row of drive-by votes from Pass. Interesting.

Darth Vilus · 01-20-2011, 05:19 PM

Alright, I'm heading out now people

Vote Raiders Army

I really don't think Autumn is a wolf and I believe there's a greater chance of Raiders being a wolf than Packers

ntndeacon · 01-20-2011, 05:29 PM

I think y'all are badly wrong on RA. He has been just unlucky.

cougarfreak · 01-20-2011, 05:41 PM

For my money, I'll vote:

Raiders Army

Raiders Army · 01-20-2011, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

To me RA is acting as an unlucky villager so far.

To be clear, I'm not acting.

Raiders Army · 01-20-2011, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

DAY 1
5 - MartinD - Autumn (62), Darth Vilus (86), Danny (110), Raiders Army (117), Packer Fanatic (123)
4 - Autumn - Passacaglia (120)

DAY 2
2 - Autumn - ntndeacon (157), Chief Rum (171)
4 - Passacagllia - PackerFanatic (161), cougarfreak (183)
1 - Raiders Army - Darth Vilus (163)
1 - Darth Vilus - Danny (182)
1 - Telle - Raiders Army (170)
3 - The Jackal - Passacaglia (254), Autumn (203)

I've removed the votes of confirmed villagers.

Two things stand out immediately.

1) Passa looks really, really bad. But does he look TOO bad?

2) I say we focus today on the group of...

Autumn (62), Darth Vilus (86), Danny (110), Raiders Army (117), Packer Fanatic (123).

The killers of Martin. There's 1, possibly 2 wolves in there, without a doubt.

Cross reference that with the day 2 votes, we come up with..
- Autumn offing a villager twice (though Autumn posted the first vote on Martin, which gives a little benefit of the doubt)
- RA offing two known villagers, with the day 1 vote doing well to solidify Martin's doom.
- DV as the rough 2nd vote on Martin, and a throwaway vote on RA.

As for Danny and PF, I'm not sure what to make of those two.

Autumn is not making me feel warm and fuzzy inside, nor are Danny/PF.

This is a good post.

Darth, why would it be me as opposed to Danny? If you are good, then Danny has voted for two good guys as well.

Raiders Army · 01-20-2011, 05:51 PM

Pass should be in the same boat as Darth. If he's good, then PackerFanatic should have voted for two good guys as well.

I'm just the easy target right now since I'm the one who voted for two known Fremen.

The wolves are manipulating you. In any case, I'm just an ordinary villager so no big loss.

Raiders Army · 01-20-2011, 05:52 PM

In self-defense:

VOTE PACKERFANATIC

This is a self-defense vote as well as a suspicion vote.

Coffee Warlord · 01-20-2011, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cougarfreak

For my money, I'll vote:

By the way. You sir, need to post more than just voting.

Passacaglia · 01-20-2011, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

I think that's two days in a row of drive-by votes from Pass. Interesting.

Three really -- although in the case of Day 2, you're probably just talking about my first vote, not where I ended up.

Danny · 01-20-2011, 06:19 PM

My gut tells me DV is a villager. My gut also tells me Autumn is a villager. My gut also tells me Packer is a villager. For these reasons, I may vote Chief Rum

Danny · 01-20-2011, 06:22 PM

Oh and I'm fine with a Raiders Army vote, but I don't want to make it a runaway. If RA was down or even, I would vote him over Autumn and PF.

Passacaglia · 01-20-2011, 06:30 PM

Well this should tie it up, then.

UNVOTE CHIEF RUM
VOTE PACKERFANATIC

Your move, dude.

Passacaglia · 01-20-2011, 06:31 PM

Also, let's remember that PF's vote is on Autumn, so we can expect him to change it to RA. Dinnertime is soon here, but I'll be back.

Danny · 01-20-2011, 06:36 PM

Vote Raiders Army

Chief Rum · 01-20-2011, 06:53 PM

As of 328:

Raiders Army (5) -- dubb93 (300), Coffee Warlord (312), Dath Vilus (315), cougarfreak (317), Danny (328)
Packerfanatic (4)-- Autumn (296), ntndeacon (304), Raiders Army (321), Passacagia (326)
Autumn (2)-- Packerfanatic (303), Chief Rum (305)

dubb93 · 01-20-2011, 08:12 PM

I"m actually thinking of moving off of RA and onto to Autumn to make it closer and to see if anything shakes as the deadline nears.

Chief Rum · 01-20-2011, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

I"m actually thinking of moving off of RA and onto to Autumn to make it closer and to see if anything shakes as the deadline nears.

Hmm, I wil be interested to see what happens if you do, as I have been considering switching to one of the others to not be caught on the sideline here. If you switch, it may not be necessary for me to switch.

dubb93 · 01-20-2011, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Hmm, I wil be interested to see what happens if you do, as I have been considering switching to one of the others to not be caught on the sideline here. If you switch, it may not be necessary for me to switch.

Unvote RA
Vote Autumn

Time to see what shakes out here.

Passacaglia · 01-20-2011, 08:35 PM

Let's roll.

UNVOTE PACKERFANATIC
VOTE AUTUMN

cougarfreak · 01-20-2011, 08:40 PM

Since I everyone knows I am a villager, being a newbie and all, I think we learn the most from lynching Autumn as well. Sorry I havne't been talking much, I've been trying to "learn" the game.

UNVOTE RAIDERS ARMY
VOTE AUTUMN

Autumn · 01-20-2011, 08:42 PM

Well, this was an unfortunate time to show back up. I just got my kid to bed ... I don't really have anything to say. I know the desire to make a last minute move to try to make something happen. And if RA and/or PF is a wolf, then I know there's probably a wolf shaking that tree. We'll find out eventually I guess.

Autumn · 01-20-2011, 08:46 PM

Odd to me that in a tight 5-4 race there was suddenly a push to go to a third candidate. A tight 5-4 race is pretty much exactly what we want normally.

Passacaglia · 01-20-2011, 08:47 PM

I've got 3 for RA, 3 for PF, and 5 for Autumn, does that seem right?

Autumn · 01-20-2011, 08:51 PM

No, no it doesn't.

Passacaglia · 01-20-2011, 08:52 PM

What is it, then?

Autumn · 01-20-2011, 08:53 PM

Oh no, it looks accurate. just not right ;-)

Passacaglia · 01-20-2011, 08:54 PM

Passacaglia · 01-20-2011, 08:54 PM

Autumn, you consider voting for RA?

Autumn · 01-20-2011, 08:55 PM

I guess I've got to do this for self defense just in case someone else wants to move their vote. Note that I don't really believe in this vote - I don't have a sense either way on RA - but there's a better chance he's a wolf than me.

UNVOTE PACKER FANATIC
VOTE RAIDERS ARMY

Chief Rum · 01-20-2011, 08:56 PM

I'm down with dubb's move. I don't like the Pass and cougar follows whatsoever.

I am forcing a tie and let's see what else happens.

UNVOTE AUTUMN
VOTE RAIDERS ARMY

Autumn · 01-20-2011, 08:56 PM

unvote raiders army
vote packerfanatic

Autumn · 01-20-2011, 08:56 PM

oops didn't see you chief. but I'm worried about switching to RA. I feel like I'm getting manipulated.

Passacaglia · 01-20-2011, 08:56 PM

Good deal.

UNVOTE AUTUMN
VOTE RAIDERS ARMY

Chief Rum · 01-20-2011, 08:57 PM

Nice, Autumn did this while I was moving. Okay, no one move a sec and let's get a current count.

Passacaglia · 01-20-2011, 08:57 PM

forcing a tie lol

Chief Rum · 01-20-2011, 08:57 PM

Grrr... okay, Pass, you're starting to annoy me. What's your game here?

01-20-2011, 02:19 PM	#301
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	Ah damn, that sucks. The wolves have been pretty good at hitting roled freemen, that really blows. Hopefully we can nab one today. I'll be around for a couple more hrs but then I'm heading out to work and I won't be back til way after deadline (I hate work) __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

01-20-2011, 02:27 PM	#302
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	Besides RA i don't know who to vote for, I'm not on my best game this time around. I'll hold out for a bit and vote before I leave. Unless i suddenly realize something in past posts __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

01-20-2011, 03:57 PM	#305
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I still think we learn the most from lynching Autumn. On top of that, he looks abit more suspicious to me right now, for how quickly he jumped on PF's vote. I don't know that dubb's theory is any better than Danny's theory yesterday about Autumn voters, or the "game theory" in that we continue to put Pass up against Autumn. I will note that, with the death of Telle, we have another villager who had voted Autumn (Day 1) who is now dead. The remaining unconfirmed voters of Autumn are Pass, myself and ntndeacon. Since I have the advantage of knowing I am a villager, that seems to me to be an awful lot of villagers to be on another villager, even if one of Pass or ntn is a wolf. VOTE AUTUMN __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

01-20-2011, 04:26 PM	#310
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	I'm telling you guys, I do not think that Autumn is a wolf. I'd much rather go with Raiders. If it comes down to Autumn and packers I'm going to vote Packers plain and simple. just fyi. and this is all based mostly on gut and games past __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

01-20-2011, 04:49 PM	#313
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	family atomics? __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

01-20-2011, 03:05 PM	#303
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	VOTE AUTUMN Saving my butt and on my list of suspects. I didn't want to introduce a third suspect right now, but I obviously can't vote for myself, and Autumn is higher than RA right now to me. Would be willing to move if it benefits the team and doesn't hurt me

01-20-2011, 03:39 PM	#304
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	Vote PackerFanatic I could be convinced to change to Autumn of the three listed so far. To me RA is acting as an unlucky villager so far. I am convinced that multiple villager havve voted for only villagers so far. Mainly since that is the usual way of things.

01-20-2011, 04:06 PM	#306
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I jumped quickly on PF for two reasons - one I was waiting to see how people would vote today to give me a clue where to go. I suspect Pass and I are both villagers, and that the wolves would be eager to push the safe thought that the village stick to those two suspects. PackerFan seemed to follow that line exactly. Secondly I knew I wouldn't be around much today and just needed to vote somewhere. I don't think Pass makes much sense as a wolf unless I was one. No reason to stick his neck out so much and tie it, and he also seems to have picked up on things that I don't think a wolf picks up on. I wanted to go elsewhere and PackerFan stepped right into my wolf profile.

01-20-2011, 04:15 PM	#307
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	VOTE CHIEF RUM

01-20-2011, 04:44 PM	#311
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	as of 310 Packerfanatic -2 (autumn @296, NTNdeacon @304) Raiders Army - 1 (dubb93 @ 300) Autumn - 2 (Packerfanatic @303, Chief Rum @305) Chief Rum -1 (Passacaglia @307)

01-20-2011, 04:46 PM	#312
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Vote Raiders Army And soon we break out the family atomics.

01-20-2011, 04:53 PM	#314
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I think that's two days in a row of drive-by votes from Pass. Interesting.

01-20-2011, 05:19 PM	#315
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	Alright, I'm heading out now people Vote Raiders Army I really don't think Autumn is a wolf and I believe there's a greater chance of Raiders being a wolf than Packers __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

01-20-2011, 05:29 PM	#316
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	I think y'all are badly wrong on RA. He has been just unlucky.

01-20-2011, 05:41 PM	#317
cougarfreak College Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Out of Grad School Hell :)	For my money, I'll vote: Raiders Army __________________ “I don’t like the Cubs,” Joey Votto said. “And I’m not going to pat anybody with a Cubs uniform on the back."

01-20-2011, 05:51 PM	#320
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Pass should be in the same boat as Darth. If he's good, then PackerFanatic should have voted for two good guys as well. I'm just the easy target right now since I'm the one who voted for two known Fremen. The wolves are manipulating you. In any case, I'm just an ordinary villager so no big loss.

01-20-2011, 05:52 PM	#321
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	In self-defense: VOTE PACKERFANATIC This is a self-defense vote as well as a suspicion vote.

01-20-2011, 06:19 PM	#324
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	My gut tells me DV is a villager. My gut also tells me Autumn is a villager. My gut also tells me Packer is a villager. For these reasons, I may vote Chief Rum

01-20-2011, 06:22 PM	#325
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Oh and I'm fine with a Raiders Army vote, but I don't want to make it a runaway. If RA was down or even, I would vote him over Autumn and PF.

01-20-2011, 06:30 PM	#326
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Well this should tie it up, then. UNVOTE CHIEF RUM VOTE PACKERFANATIC Your move, dude.

01-20-2011, 06:31 PM	#327
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Also, let's remember that PF's vote is on Autumn, so we can expect him to change it to RA. Dinnertime is soon here, but I'll be back.

01-20-2011, 06:36 PM	#328
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Vote Raiders Army

01-20-2011, 06:53 PM	#329
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	As of 328: Raiders Army (5) -- dubb93 (300), Coffee Warlord (312), Dath Vilus (315), cougarfreak (317), Danny (328) Packerfanatic (4)-- Autumn (296), ntndeacon (304), Raiders Army (321), Passacagia (326) Autumn (2)-- Packerfanatic (303), Chief Rum (305) __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

01-20-2011, 08:35 PM	#333
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Let's roll. UNVOTE PACKERFANATIC VOTE AUTUMN

01-20-2011, 08:40 PM	#334
cougarfreak College Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Out of Grad School Hell :)	Since I everyone knows I am a villager, being a newbie and all, I think we learn the most from lynching Autumn as well. Sorry I havne't been talking much, I've been trying to "learn" the game. UNVOTE RAIDERS ARMY VOTE AUTUMN __________________ “I don’t like the Cubs,” Joey Votto said. “And I’m not going to pat anybody with a Cubs uniform on the back."

01-20-2011, 08:42 PM	#335
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Well, this was an unfortunate time to show back up. I just got my kid to bed ... I don't really have anything to say. I know the desire to make a last minute move to try to make something happen. And if RA and/or PF is a wolf, then I know there's probably a wolf shaking that tree. We'll find out eventually I guess.

01-20-2011, 08:46 PM	#336
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Odd to me that in a tight 5-4 race there was suddenly a push to go to a third candidate. A tight 5-4 race is pretty much exactly what we want normally.

01-20-2011, 08:47 PM	#337
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	I've got 3 for RA, 3 for PF, and 5 for Autumn, does that seem right?

01-20-2011, 08:51 PM	#338
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	No, no it doesn't.

01-20-2011, 08:52 PM	#339
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	What is it, then?

01-20-2011, 08:53 PM	#340
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Oh no, it looks accurate. just not right ;-)

01-20-2011, 08:54 PM	#341
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country

01-20-2011, 08:54 PM	#342
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Autumn, you consider voting for RA?

01-20-2011, 08:55 PM	#343
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I guess I've got to do this for self defense just in case someone else wants to move their vote. Note that I don't really believe in this vote - I don't have a sense either way on RA - but there's a better chance he's a wolf than me. UNVOTE PACKER FANATIC VOTE RAIDERS ARMY

01-20-2011, 08:56 PM	#344
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I'm down with dubb's move. I don't like the Pass and cougar follows whatsoever. I am forcing a tie and let's see what else happens. UNVOTE AUTUMN VOTE RAIDERS ARMY __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.