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Old 04-08-2011, 04:50 PM   #951
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Here's what my thinking is based on post #706 and my own suspicions. I'm not saying this is 100% correct obviously but this is where I'm going. And based on these posts Zinto does not look good to me.


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Old 04-08-2011, 04:56 PM   #952
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Oh and assuming there was a conversion you can switch JAG to red. again, just my suspicions
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Old 04-08-2011, 05:11 PM   #953
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vote tyketime

Since Autumn is the only one we can trust at this point.
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Old 04-08-2011, 05:17 PM   #954
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Why tyketime over Zinto?
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Old 04-08-2011, 05:20 PM   #955
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For anyone listening, just contemplate this, say Autumn puts a vote on a villager. Then the wolves capitalize on this by saying Autumn is the only one we can trust so let's go with him. While in theory this seems correct (I understand the reasoning) if Autumn doesn't place a correct vote it's over.

With only one more villager death away from losing I say that's a pretty smart strategy.
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Old 04-08-2011, 05:26 PM   #956
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Old 04-08-2011, 05:27 PM   #957
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DV, if you're adamant Tyke is a bad choice, then I'm fine with a switch to EF, especially since Mau is still hanging out there. I think EF is more likely than Zinto.
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Old 04-08-2011, 05:29 PM   #958
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I get that but at this point I haven't done a good job at sniffing out wolves so I would rather at least follow someone that can be trusted instead of someone that I still have a question about and could be a wolf.
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Old 04-08-2011, 05:33 PM   #959
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I'm just not seeing the Zinto logic. That said I am down to vote Tyke or EF is that is the route we are going to go tonight.
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Old 04-08-2011, 05:37 PM   #960
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I think it's time to pull the pork. Will be back after dinner.

I know that I am not a good choice, but I know that won't be believed as everyone is saying that.

Can you answer one question truthfully Darth.

Are you a wolf?
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Old 04-08-2011, 05:37 PM   #961
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Old 04-08-2011, 05:48 PM   #962
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Yes I can answer that and no I am not a wolf. And I'm not adamant that Tyke is a bad choice, i would just like some reasoning as to why he is the best choice
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Old 04-08-2011, 06:01 PM   #963
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I think it's time to pull the pork

On a side note, that's what she said
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Old 04-08-2011, 06:05 PM   #964
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I think it's time to pull the pork.

Do you always do that when your Aunt visits?
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Old 04-08-2011, 06:07 PM   #965
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DV maybe I'm just missing something but why exactly do you think Zinto is the best choice? Try and convince me, b/c right now I'm just not seeing it. Point me to posts, etc.
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Old 04-08-2011, 06:35 PM   #966
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Old 04-08-2011, 06:40 PM   #967
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I'm freaking stuffed. I will only have a little phone access though. Will keep checking in but I am sold on my vote.
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Old 04-08-2011, 06:43 PM   #968
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i don't have any posts I can point to, mainly my own suspicions and numbers. Zinto is playing the way he did the last time he was a wolf (as I recall) and he is claiming to be a medieval citizen as well. Normally that would be fine but We had several reveals for the medieval era and that seems rather unbalanced to me. After I followed him (He didn't even wonder why) I thought he could either be the the seer or the count, then autumn revealed and the count was killed. Now it's possible he is another citizen like me but i think that is pretty unlikley. He's been pretty quiet the whole game (as several others have been i admit) which is a classic wolf move.

All of this just seems too much to me when you put it together.
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Old 04-08-2011, 06:52 PM   #969
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Alright DV. I have never played with Zinto before, but if he is acting this game just like he did in another when he was a wolf that is good enough for me and more than we really have on anyone else.

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Old 04-08-2011, 06:52 PM   #970
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I don't know enough about Zinto's play so I will just have to take your word for it (unless it's someone that I should know more about and he changed his name).
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Old 04-08-2011, 06:53 PM   #971
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i don't have any posts I can point to, mainly my own suspicions and numbers. Zinto is playing the way he did the last time he was a wolf (as I recall) and he is claiming to be a medieval citizen as well. Normally that would be fine but We had several reveals for the medieval era and that seems rather unbalanced to me. After I followed him (He didn't even wonder why) I thought he could either be the the seer or the count, then autumn revealed and the count was killed. Now it's possible he is another citizen like me but i think that is pretty unlikley. He's been pretty quiet the whole game (as several others have been i admit) which is a classic wolf move.

All of this just seems too much to me when you put it together.


Well I have never been a wolf so the fact you think I am acting like I had in a different game would mean I am a villager. I would also say I have talked as much as a few people this game and it is how I play with few posts.
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Old 04-08-2011, 06:55 PM   #972
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I should say that I am more of quiet player. THat is what I meant at the end of the last post.
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:00 PM   #973
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no im pretty sure you were
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:02 PM   #974
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no im pretty sure you were


I am a hundred percent sure I have not.
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:09 PM   #975
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lol, Darth you're not helping your case.

I think it's pretty clear the wolves are pushing for a Zinto vote. They're all careful not to put any heat on Tyketime at all. I would suggest all real villagers vote Tyketime. Zinto is certainly not the best alternate.
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:10 PM   #977
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If someone doesn't want Tyketime, I suggest they vote Dubb instead. He does not get teh logic in Zinto, is going to vote Tyke or EF, and then somehow is convinced by Darth to vote Zinto. Interesting.
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:12 PM   #978
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Well I will go the way of Autumn and Jag again and vote for Tyke.

Vote Tyke
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:13 PM   #979
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:13 PM   #980
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I think the picture is clearing up a bit now. We still need votes from Lathum, Zinto and juggler by my count.
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:14 PM   #981
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you know if you don't believe me then no problem, i'm only one person. you guys want to vote tyketime go right ahead. and if it's clear the wolves are pushing a zinto vote why not vote me over tyke then Autumn?
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:14 PM   #982
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It's looking to me like Darth and Zinto are manipulating the situation at this point to be honest.
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:14 PM   #983
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Dola, need votes from Lathum and juggler as of post 979.
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:16 PM   #984
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Or at least one of them. I don't feel like waiting for the phone to scan back through the recent games. Can anyone tell us if Zinto as a wolf before or not?
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:17 PM   #985
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how are we manipulating it?
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:19 PM   #986
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Or at least one of them. I don't feel like waiting for the phone to scan back through the recent games. Can anyone tell us if Zinto as a wolf before or not?


I have played in four other games.

In Vegas I was a vanilla villager who was the second to last lynch. In the amazing race I was a vanilla villager and was lynched on day 3 I believe. In the Godfather I was Connie and made it to the end. And finally my last game I was in was the original werewolves where I was lynched the first day and was vanilla.
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:20 PM   #987
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how are we manipulating it?

Your disagreement. Trying to figure out if that is just a genuine misunderstanding or choreographed wolf play.
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:22 PM   #988
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Away for about 20-25 minutes. Getting cross looks from everyone.
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:23 PM   #989
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you know if you don't believe me then no problem, i'm only one person. you guys want to vote tyketime go right ahead. and if it's clear the wolves are pushing a zinto vote why not vote me over tyke then Autumn?

Because just because you're also pushing Zinto doesn't mean you're a wolf. I've been pretty sure about Tyke and Dubb since yesterday. When I suggested I would scan one, my scan was blocked at night. When JAG and I were voting Tyke today many supposed villagers have been willing to vote just about anywhere else. If Tyke was a villager I'd see a lot more people willing to jump on the bandwagon, then blame it on me.
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:23 PM   #990
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DV, you're not a wee bit suspicious that there are three unknowns on Zinto and all the cleared / scanned on tyke?
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:24 PM   #991
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Sorry, Lathum hasn't officially voted but has been after Zinto all day.
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:30 PM   #992
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Well, it looks like EF/DV live to see another day. I really hope the two I've been on are not wolves because then I'll be pissed that I couldn't play harder/more to find good reasons to vote these guys.

On a side note, my wife and I got a new car today. Toyota Sienna. Woot!
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:30 PM   #993
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What role is that?

A medieval citizen who can scan for roles in the medieval era.
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:42 PM   #994
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When I suggested I would scan one, my scan was blocked at night.

Don't you think it is more likely that you were blocked becuase you COULD scan instead of WHO you chose to scan?
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:43 PM   #995
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Don't forget to vote time villagers. I recommend future for now, and tomorrow kind of depends on a few things.
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:44 PM   #996
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DV, you're not a wee bit suspicious that there are three unknowns on Zinto and all the cleared / scanned on tyke?

EF is one of those and haven't you noticed that he's on my list as well? Of course i'm suspicious
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:44 PM   #997
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I would feel much more comfortable if the last two votes where placed since it looks like there maybe some last minute problems.

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Old 04-08-2011, 07:45 PM   #998
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Well, it looks like EF/DV live to see another day. I really hope the two I've been on are not wolves because then I'll be pissed that I couldn't play harder/more to find good reasons to vote these guys.

On a side note, my wife and I got a new car today. Toyota Sienna. Woot!

Autumn DV and I have all agreed with you about EF also, but as Autumn said we can only lynch one today. Even if you're right about both, there are still 2-3 others.
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:46 PM   #999
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Sitting in traffic. Stupid mariners game. Vote count?
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:46 PM   #1000
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Go ahead and vote tyke, if we're alive tomorrow let's get EF since no one likes Zinto. Half of you are honest and half are not, we just have to figure out who is who
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