Poker Night

Airhog · 04-04-2003, 04:11 AM

I am thinking about hosting a poker tournament here for our friends. I was thinking about pay and a free tournament. The buy-in for the pay tournament would be decided by the people playing. I was thinking about a small by-in maybe somewhere in the 5-20 dollar range.

I was thinking of payouts like 70% for first place, and 30% for second place.

I have a pay-pal account, and everyone could just send me the buy-in money. We would play at one of the free poker sites.

Anyone know of a site that allows free private tournament style tables? Even better if they allow free private multi-table tournaments

Also we would need to decide how to handle more than 8 players. I think most sites have 8 players max at a table. I dont know if we would be able to carryover chips from one table to the other. If so, then more than 8 players would be out, cause it just doesnt seem right any other way.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

Lets just shoot for 10 people wanting to play and go from there. It will be on a first come first serve basis. Please reply with a good time you can play. Also please reply with how much you would like to spend.

Interested

Khwit M,W,TH evenings 5-10 dollars
Marmel M-W evenings. 5-20 dollars
Airhog M-TH evenings. 5-10 dollars
Tredwell TU,TH evenings 5-10 dollars
Primelord TU evenings 5-25 dollars
JimJam19 M-F evenings 5-25 dollars
Analbumcover M-TH evenings any amount.
ctmason T-TH evenings any amount.
sabotai M,W,Th evenings 5-20
HornsManiac M-F evenings any amount

Rpi-Fan M-F evenings 5-15 dollars
Clebrownsfan

Also we are going to play at
http://www.pokerroom.com/index.php

you should go ahead and make an account and play a few hands.

we cant reserve a table, so I dont know where we will play at, Hopefully I can just post here, a few minutes before the starting time, and you guys can find the table and join.

QuikSand · 04-04-2003, 06:33 AM

Maybe 8 at a time is the best way to go, at least to get started. If things really got rolling, you could do four "qualifier" tables, with two advancing from each. But maybe you start at the bottom, and work your way up.

KWhit · 04-04-2003, 11:56 AM

I'd love to do that. It would probably be a good idea to do a really small buy-in for the first time (I say $5). But this sounds fun.

Airhog · 04-04-2003, 12:47 PM

Quiksand: yeah, but I would really like to model it after a real tournament. Here is the only problem I have with qualifier tournaments. You cannot carry over your chips to the next round, thus eliminating any advantage you have gained. I have only figured out one semi solution to the problem, and its ugly, and we wouldnt be able to play tournament style.

Marmel · 04-04-2003, 12:57 PM

If we kept the ante's relatively small, I would be interested.

Maybe a set schedule would be cool, with a few $5 or $10 tourneys leading up to a large "WSOP" where the ante was $20-$30, and you must have participated in 50% of the smaller ones to qualify.

Just a few ideas.

Edit to add: I wouldn't want to see the ante's get too big, as I don't want to give or take that much money from fellow FOFC'ers, but a little something on the line makes things a bit more competative and interesting, and will also weed out quitters, etc...

Airhog · 04-04-2003, 01:10 PM

Well I looked at all the different poker sites that offer texas hold em. A few do have multi-table tournaments, but no way to start your own private table. Acutally I know of only one place that allows private games, and that is Yahoo. I do know some people in the gambling newsgroup, so I will ask around there. I dont think yahoo is setup for any sort of tournament play. We might just have to find an alternate way to do the tournament.

I did find a few places that allow private tables, but only with real money, and no tournaments.

Airhog · 04-04-2003, 01:47 PM

Okay I found a site that allows the setup of a private tournament. The only downside is we would have to buy chips at their site, and you cannot purchase less than 50 dollars in chips and you have to withdrawl at least 50 dollars in chips. Im beginning to think that trying to setup a multi-tournament table is going to be tough.

Lets just shoot for 10 people wanting to play and go from there. It will be on a first come first serve basis. Please reply with a good time you can play. Also please reply with how much you would like to spend.

Interested
Khwit
Marmel M,W evenings. 5-20 dollars
Airhog M-TH evenings. 5 dollars
Tredwell TU-TH. 5-10 dollars
Primelord TU 5-25 dollars

Marmel · 04-04-2003, 01:52 PM

Marmel, Mon and Wed evenings are best. 5-25

TredWel · 04-04-2003, 01:58 PM

I'm interested. Tuesday, Thursday evenings are best. I'm cheap, so 5-10 is my range.

primelord · 04-04-2003, 01:58 PM

I'd be interested. $5-25 range. Tue. evenings are probably the best for me, but I can probably find time on other nights.

WSUCougar · 04-04-2003, 01:58 PM

I might be interested. How long would a typical session run?

Also, how "hard core" are you guys in terms of poker? I have played casual poker for years with my friends, but I'm not sure I am up to speed on more formal games.

Airhog · 04-04-2003, 01:59 PM

well the software handles all the betting, etc so not too worry about being too formal

Marmel · 04-04-2003, 02:00 PM

Addendum: Monday and Wednesday are best for me, but I can also attend Tuesday (which seems pretty popular) and Thursday, but only if it ends before 9pm, EST.

KWhit · 04-04-2003, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Marmel
Addendum: Monday and Wednesday are best for me, but I can also attend Tuesday (which seems pretty popular) and Thursday, but only if it ends before 9pm, EST.

Do you have a CSI fetish? Or is it Will and Grace?

I'd prefer $5, but $10 would be okay too. I also like that the 2nd place winner gets something. AH, your idea of 70-30 or so sounds good to me.

I prefer Monday, Wednesday or Thursday nights.

Marmel · 04-04-2003, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KWhit
Do you have a CSI fetish? Or is it Will and Grace?

Not a fan of either show. I commish an OOTP league, and run the sims those nights at 9.

Airhog · 04-04-2003, 02:29 PM

well im thinking 70-30 or 60-30-10, but im leaning towards 70-30

ctmason · 04-04-2003, 02:57 PM

Can't believe I didn't see this until now. I'm definitely in. Tu, Wed, Thur nights are best for me. Whatever limits are most comfortable for anyone else are cool with me.

RPI-Fan · 04-04-2003, 03:09 PM

I can't pay with PayPal, but if I could send the coordinator a money order I'd love to play.

Available any weeknight after 9pm EST.

Interested in $5-$15 buy-in.

JimJam19 · 04-04-2003, 03:20 PM

Very interested. Nights work for me. $5-$25 is fine with me.

Airhog · 04-04-2003, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RPI-Fan
I can't pay with PayPal, but if I could send the coordinator a money order I'd love to play.

Available any weeknight after 9pm EST.

Interested in $5-$15 buy-in.

well that might work. I put you down as an alternate. If we need 1 more to play, then you can fill in. I just dont want the hassle of having to add money to my paypal account.

AnalBumCover · 04-04-2003, 08:38 PM

Texas Hold'em is my middle name.
Count me in. M-Th nights. After 9pm EST. Any sized buy-in is okay with me.

AnalBumCover · 04-04-2003, 08:40 PM

dola.

Anyone try TruePoker.com? That's where I play most of the time.

Airhog · 04-07-2003, 04:50 PM

Okay we need 1 or 2 more people to play. I listed Rpi-fan as an alternate, but if we dont get 2 people to play, Ill cover his buy-in and he can pay me with a money order.

sabotai · 04-07-2003, 05:09 PM

I'd be interested. $5-$20. Best nights for me: Monday, Wednesday and Thursday. evenings. (Tuesdays is TFC night.

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04-07-2003, 05:52 PM

I have seen this mentioned many times before on here and always hoped it would materialize, but never did.

I am willing to play in the evenings and the buy in amount doesn't matter to me. Weekdays are better for me, but a weekend could be arranged as well.

HornsManiac

Airhog · 04-07-2003, 06:08 PM

Okay, we now have ten people, I wouldnt mind having a few more alternates though. I will look at the times everyone has given me, and try to come up with some dates for people to vote on...

Airhog · 04-07-2003, 07:28 PM

Okay the two most popular dates are Wednesday and Thursday, both recieving the nod 8 times.

So I have two possible dates.
1. 16th of april at 9pm est.
2. 17th of april at 9pm est.

I think we should have a test run, so how about

this thursday the 10th of april. Im still hoping to get a few more people, because we have to have 10 people show up to play a tournament.

sabotai · 04-07-2003, 09:11 PM

All 3 dates are good for me (at the moment)

primelord · 04-07-2003, 09:36 PM

I can't do Wednesday nights. So the 16th is out for me. I might be able to do the 17th though.

sterlingice · 04-08-2003, 02:17 AM

While it's a bit too rich for my blood (some of us have to live on less than $10K per year of student loans), I'm curious to look in on it. Someone going to be posting a dynasty or two?

SI

CleBrownsfan · 04-08-2003, 01:28 PM

I didn’t see this thread until now and I’m wondering if I could get in the game or be an alternative? I have softball on Wed. nights but I can plat on the 17th.

Anybody want to do a few “play money” hands tonight on pokerroom??

Airhog · 04-08-2003, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CleBrownsfan
I didn’t see this thread until now and I’m wondering if I could get in the game or be an alternative? I have softball on Wed. nights but I can plat on the 17th.

Anybody want to do a few “play money” hands tonight on pokerroom??

your more then welcome too. If your familiar with how the tables work at pokerroom.com then you know that I need all 10 guys to show up at a table rather quickly, otherwise we could get non-money players in the mix, which wouldnt work.

Airhog · 04-08-2003, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sterlingice
While it's a bit too rich for my blood (some of us have to live on less than $10K per year of student loans), I'm curious to look in on it. Someone going to be posting a dynasty or two?

SI

well for the first money game, we will probably keep the stakes low, like 5 dollars. If there is enough interest for a smaller buy-in, we could do one of those too.

CleBrownsfan · 04-08-2003, 01:52 PM

Airhog - (or anybody else) you want to play some poker tonight?

sabotai · 04-08-2003, 02:21 PM

Just so everyone knows, on the poker site, I am sabotaikhan (needed at least 8 letters and sabotai is only 7).

Airhog · 04-08-2003, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CleBrownsfan
Airhog - (or anybody else) you want to play some poker tonight?

no thanks, I dont have the cash to lose

CleBrownsfan · 04-08-2003, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Airhog
no thanks, I dont have the cash to lose

I was thinking for fun.. not real $$$$

04-08-2003, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CleBrownsfan
I was thinking for fun.. not real $$$$

Poker is never fun if you are not really gambling. I would rather not even play than play for "fun." Poker is about really risking something when you make decisions.

For the record, I will never participate in any games just for fun. I can play tonight if anyone wants to play, but (even if it's a small one) we need a real buy in.

HornsManiac

CleBrownsfan · 04-08-2003, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HornsManiac
Poker is never fun if you are not really gambling. I would rather not even play than play for "fun." Poker is about really risking something when you make decisions.

For the record, I will never participate in any games just for fun. I can play tonight if anyone wants to play, but (even if it's a small one) we need a real buy in.

HornsManiac

I can be in tonight (for real $$) if there is some interest. Maybe we can start a single table tourney and whoever shows up from FOFC can play.. the others will be the poor shaps that we'll take there money from.

I'm on the west coast so what time are we thinking for tonight?

CleBrownsfan · 04-08-2003, 09:21 PM

Anyone up for some poker?? Real or play money?

RPI-Fan · 04-08-2003, 09:45 PM

I'll play either, but as I said you'll have to 'take my word for it' on the money order thing.

AnalBumCover · 04-10-2003, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Airhog

I think we should have a test run, so how about

this thursday the 10th of april. Im still hoping to get a few more people, because we have to have 10 people show up to play a tournament.

Will this still be going on? I'll be on as ABCatFOFC. 9pm Eastern

CleBrownsfan · 04-11-2003, 12:12 PM

So I was playing a but last night on pokerroom for real money. I deposited $100 and decided to start small and played @ the $1-2 table. I started playing and feeling the table... folding a lot and waiting for my moment to play my first hand. The first hand I played I had a K-J of hearts.
The flop came and 2 hearts came up (forgot the value) then the Turn and another heart came up for my king high flush. Two people called my bet (??) and the River came up. I bet on my K high flush and someone raised me. There were no possibilities of a full house or a straight flush so I raised them back. They called and I beat their straight. First hand I stayed in after the Flop and I won $47. Not bad!!

I played for about and hour and cashed out $170… not a bad nights work

AgPete · 04-11-2003, 03:21 PM

Make sure you guys pick up some of the new Iraqi playing cards.

Saddam Hussein is the "ace of spades" in a 55-card deck of the Iraqi regime leaders "most wanted" by the U.S. government.

04-04-2003, 12:47 PM	#4
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	Quiksand: yeah, but I would really like to model it after a real tournament. Here is the only problem I have with qualifier tournaments. You cannot carry over your chips to the next round, thus eliminating any advantage you have gained. I have only figured out one semi solution to the problem, and its ugly, and we wouldnt be able to play tournament style. __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

04-04-2003, 12:57 PM	#5
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	If we kept the ante's relatively small, I would be interested. Maybe a set schedule would be cool, with a few $5 or $10 tourneys leading up to a large "WSOP" where the ante was $20-$30, and you must have participated in 50% of the smaller ones to qualify. Just a few ideas. Edit to add: I wouldn't want to see the ante's get too big, as I don't want to give or take that much money from fellow FOFC'ers, but a little something on the line makes things a bit more competative and interesting, and will also weed out quitters, etc... __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions." Last edited by Marmel : 04-04-2003 at 12:59 PM.

04-04-2003, 01:10 PM	#6
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	Well I looked at all the different poker sites that offer texas hold em. A few do have multi-table tournaments, but no way to start your own private table. Acutally I know of only one place that allows private games, and that is Yahoo. I do know some people in the gambling newsgroup, so I will ask around there. I dont think yahoo is setup for any sort of tournament play. We might just have to find an alternate way to do the tournament. I did find a few places that allow private tables, but only with real money, and no tournaments. __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

04-04-2003, 01:47 PM	#7
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	Okay I found a site that allows the setup of a private tournament. The only downside is we would have to buy chips at their site, and you cannot purchase less than 50 dollars in chips and you have to withdrawl at least 50 dollars in chips. Im beginning to think that trying to setup a multi-tournament table is going to be tough. Lets just shoot for 10 people wanting to play and go from there. It will be on a first come first serve basis. Please reply with a good time you can play. Also please reply with how much you would like to spend. Interested Khwit Marmel M,W evenings. 5-20 dollars Airhog M-TH evenings. 5 dollars Tredwell TU-TH. 5-10 dollars Primelord TU 5-25 dollars __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again! Last edited by Airhog : 04-04-2003 at 02:01 PM.

04-04-2003, 01:52 PM	#8
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	Marmel, Mon and Wed evenings are best. 5-25 __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

04-04-2003, 06:33 AM	#2
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	Maybe 8 at a time is the best way to go, at least to get started. If things really got rolling, you could do four "qualifier" tables, with two advancing from each. But maybe you start at the bottom, and work your way up.

04-04-2003, 11:56 AM	#3
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I'd love to do that. It would probably be a good idea to do a really small buy-in for the first time (I say $5). But this sounds fun.

04-04-2003, 01:58 PM	#9
TredWel High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Old Forge, PA	I'm interested. Tuesday, Thursday evenings are best. I'm cheap, so 5-10 is my range. __________________ There are three things I have learned never to discuss with people...religion, politics, and the Great Pumpkin. - Linus Van Pelt

04-04-2003, 01:58 PM	#10
primelord Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000	I'd be interested. $5-25 range. Tue. evenings are probably the best for me, but I can probably find time on other nights. __________________ .

04-04-2003, 01:58 PM	#11
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	I might be interested. How long would a typical session run? Also, how "hard core" are you guys in terms of poker? I have played casual poker for years with my friends, but I'm not sure I am up to speed on more formal games. __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

04-04-2003, 01:59 PM	#12
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	well the software handles all the betting, etc so not too worry about being too formal __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

04-04-2003, 02:00 PM	#13
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	Addendum: Monday and Wednesday are best for me, but I can also attend Tuesday (which seems pretty popular) and Thursday, but only if it ends before 9pm, EST. __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

04-04-2003, 02:29 PM	#16
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	well im thinking 70-30 or 60-30-10, but im leaning towards 70-30 __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

04-04-2003, 02:57 PM	#17
ctmason High School JV Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Mesa, AZ	Can't believe I didn't see this until now. I'm definitely in. Tu, Wed, Thur nights are best for me. Whatever limits are most comfortable for anyone else are cool with me.

04-04-2003, 03:09 PM	#18
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	I can't pay with PayPal, but if I could send the coordinator a money order I'd love to play. Available any weeknight after 9pm EST. Interested in $5-$15 buy-in. __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

04-04-2003, 03:20 PM	#19
JimJam19 n00b Join Date: Jan 2003	Very interested. Nights work for me. $5-$25 is fine with me.

04-04-2003, 08:38 PM	#21
AnalBumCover College Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: La Mirada, CA	Texas Hold'em is my middle name. Count me in. M-Th nights. After 9pm EST. Any sized buy-in is okay with me. __________________ ABC's Game Giveaway list

04-04-2003, 08:40 PM	#22
AnalBumCover College Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: La Mirada, CA	dola. Anyone try TruePoker.com? That's where I play most of the time. __________________ ABC's Game Giveaway list

04-07-2003, 04:50 PM	#23
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	Okay we need 1 or 2 more people to play. I listed Rpi-fan as an alternate, but if we dont get 2 people to play, Ill cover his buy-in and he can pay me with a money order. __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

04-07-2003, 05:09 PM	#24
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	I'd be interested. $5-$20. Best nights for me: Monday, Wednesday and Thursday. evenings. (Tuesdays is TFC night. )

04-07-2003, 05:52 PM	#25
HornsManiac	I have seen this mentioned many times before on here and always hoped it would materialize, but never did. I am willing to play in the evenings and the buy in amount doesn't matter to me. Weekdays are better for me, but a weekend could be arranged as well. HornsManiac

04-07-2003, 06:08 PM	#26
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	Okay, we now have ten people, I wouldnt mind having a few more alternates though. I will look at the times everyone has given me, and try to come up with some dates for people to vote on... __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

04-07-2003, 07:28 PM	#27
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	Okay the two most popular dates are Wednesday and Thursday, both recieving the nod 8 times. So I have two possible dates. 1. 16th of april at 9pm est. 2. 17th of april at 9pm est. I think we should have a test run, so how about this thursday the 10th of april. Im still hoping to get a few more people, because we have to have 10 people show up to play a tournament. __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

04-07-2003, 09:11 PM	#28
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	All 3 dates are good for me (at the moment)

04-07-2003, 09:36 PM	#29
primelord Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000	I can't do Wednesday nights. So the 16th is out for me. I might be able to do the 17th though. __________________ .

04-08-2003, 02:17 AM	#30
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	While it's a bit too rich for my blood (some of us have to live on less than $10K per year of student loans), I'm curious to look in on it. Someone going to be posting a dynasty or two? SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

04-08-2003, 01:28 PM	#31
CleBrownsfan Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: C-Town	I didn’t see this thread until now and I’m wondering if I could get in the game or be an alternative? I have softball on Wed. nights but I can plat on the 17th. Anybody want to do a few “play money” hands tonight on pokerroom?? __________________ *XBox Gamertag:* Pronk32 FOOL-X - Cleveland Naps FOOL - Cleveland Cyclones SLOP - Cuyahoga Spiders

04-08-2003, 01:52 PM	#34
CleBrownsfan Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: C-Town	Airhog - (or anybody else) you want to play some poker tonight? __________________ *XBox Gamertag:* Pronk32 FOOL-X - Cleveland Naps FOOL - Cleveland Cyclones SLOP - Cuyahoga Spiders

04-08-2003, 02:21 PM	#35
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Just so everyone knows, on the poker site, I am sabotaikhan (needed at least 8 letters and sabotai is only 7).

04-08-2003, 09:21 PM	#40
CleBrownsfan Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: C-Town	Anyone up for some poker?? Real or play money? __________________ *XBox Gamertag:* Pronk32 FOOL-X - Cleveland Naps FOOL - Cleveland Cyclones SLOP - Cuyahoga Spiders

04-08-2003, 09:45 PM	#41
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	I'll play either, but as I said you'll have to 'take my word for it' on the money order thing. __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

04-11-2003, 12:12 PM	#43
CleBrownsfan Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: C-Town	So I was playing a but last night on pokerroom for real money. I deposited $100 and decided to start small and played @ the $1-2 table. I started playing and feeling the table... folding a lot and waiting for my moment to play my first hand. The first hand I played I had a K-J of hearts. The flop came and 2 hearts came up (forgot the value) then the Turn and another heart came up for my king high flush. Two people called my bet (??) and the River came up. I bet on my K high flush and someone raised me. There were no possibilities of a full house or a straight flush so I raised them back. They called and I beat their straight. First hand I stayed in after the Flop and I won $47. Not bad!! I played for about and hour and cashed out $170… not a bad nights work __________________ *XBox Gamertag:* Pronk32 FOOL-X - Cleveland Naps FOOL - Cleveland Cyclones SLOP - Cuyahoga Spiders

04-11-2003, 03:21 PM	#44
AgPete College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2001	Make sure you guys pick up some of the new Iraqi playing cards. Saddam Hussein is the "ace of spades" in a 55-card deck of the Iraqi regime leaders "most wanted" by the U.S. government. __________________ Click here for the FOF2004 World Football League Dynasty (WFL) - Football Goes Global! OOTP5 Psychology Experiment (Incomplete but fun read for MLB fans.) The FOFC All-Time NFL Team - Voted on by FOFC members.

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