2020 NFL Offseason Thread? - Page 15

BishopMVP · 07-06-2020, 07:51 PM

So it's basically a 3 year extension that'll be re-negotiated by 2025? Cool.

bhlloy · 07-06-2020, 09:18 PM

Yeah, I mean I guess it's a placeholder in case Mahomes is clearly still the #1 QB in the league when he's in his 30's and QB salaries haven't caught up with him yet, but it's hardly the splashy deal that was in the headlines (and probably not surprisingly, there's only a couple of teams in the league stupid to actually commit that much money for that long)

BishopMVP · 07-06-2020, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Yeah, I mean I guess it's a placeholder in case Mahomes is clearly still the #1 QB in the league when he's in his 30's and QB salaries haven't caught up with him yet, but it's hardly the splashy deal that was in the headlines (and probably not surprisingly, there's only a couple of teams in the league stupid to actually commit that much money for that long)

We'll still see if something else comes out (roster bonuses get locked in earlier than normal, some percentage of the cap mechanism), but right now it seems like a very team friendly contract and when I made my post earlier I assumed there was more guaranteed $$$ in there. It's basically a 3 year contract with 9 1 year team options!

SirFozzie · 07-06-2020, 10:02 PM

I think one of the big things is that they have to decide a year in advance whether to activate the option.

bhlloy · 07-06-2020, 11:04 PM

Even that isn't too bad... if he's bad enough that you need to walk (injury or ineffectiveness) that year will suck, but then you are free of it with no hit after that..

The really wild thing is he counts less against the cap year 1 than Frank Clark, and not much more in year 2. I don't think anyone is crying for the guy who is $140m guaranteed better off tomorrow morning, but you have to say the Chiefs got a really nice deal here, barring any stunning change of form or serious injury in the next 4 years.

NobodyHere · 07-07-2020, 10:14 AM

DeSean Jackson posts anti-Semitic fake Hitler quotes, vows no hate toward Jewish community

BYU 14 · 07-07-2020, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

DeSean Jackson posts anti-Semitic fake Hitler quotes, vows no hate toward Jewish community

And he should be held accountable for being an idiot and posting bigoted stuff.

whomario · 07-07-2020, 12:10 PM

Being on the internet should require a license, like for driving.

All it needs in the curriculum really is one thing: Do not believe anything on the internet unless you have the "W Questions" answered: Who, what, where, when. Then if it turns out to be a true story/quote, anwer the "Why" of the Story/Quote and voila. I mean, even if he said it, why in the world would you believe the premise knowing the Who.

If you just consume shit, it doesn't even matter if you think you are racist (in this case), you still perpetuate a racist ideology to other equally 'gullible' people. Germany didn't become Nazi Germany because everybody hated the Jews (or communists before that) all along or those that did would have acted on that, but because they were told why hating jews was sth they should do because of what they are about to do. Then some unwittingly and some wittingly spread it along until enough are convinced to go along.
(Insert whatever other propaganda).

Except those dumbasses did not have a way of checking those Claims within a minute or 5, unlike todays dumbasses. (Nor the means to share their thoughts millionfold.)

So yeah, even 'only' being stupid and believing racist thought would be plenty terrible on it's own considering the ease of communication and plenty inexcusable considering the availability of information.

jbergey22 · 07-09-2020, 08:51 AM

Texans trade Watson and Watts to the 49ers for Mostert, Pettis and a 2022 3rd round pick???

I dont get this at all...

Jimmy G on his way back to the Pats?

WTF is O Brien doing to the Texans?

EDIT...Apparently this is a false Twitter rumor...Sorry!

Vince, Pt. II · 07-09-2020, 07:15 PM

Damn it, I was excited for a moment.

jbergey22 · 07-10-2020, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

Damn it, I was excited for a moment.

Haha! If it had come from anyone but the Texans I would have double checked it first. It was one of my messages on my phone this morning and I get very few twitter headlines so I figured it was true....

miami_fan · 07-10-2020, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14

And he should be held accountable for being an idiot and posting bigoted stuff.

Absolutely. I would go so far as being okay with the Eagles cutting him and explaining how they have learned from the wrong way they handled the Riley Cooper situation. I understand why they can't and won't do that though.

miami_fan · 07-10-2020, 07:02 AM

Dola,

I would love for Jackson to take Edelman up on his offer to go to the Holocaust Museum. It seems like some learning needs to take place if Jackson is willing to learn.

NobodyHere · 07-10-2020, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

Dola,

I would love for Jackson to take Edelman up on his offer to go to the Holocaust Museum. It seems like some learning needs to take place if Jackson is willing to learn.

Sounds like Stephen Jackson needs to go with them.

AlexB · 07-10-2020, 07:06 AM

Until I read the article, it wasn’t apparent that Edelman also suggested then going to the African-American Cultural Museum, so a dual learning exercise

Thomkal · 07-10-2020, 07:03 PM

Cardinals owner Michael Bidwell has tested positive for the Coronavirus. Expected to be released from the hospital this weekend

miami_fan · 07-12-2020, 10:54 PM

Source -- Redskins to announce nickname will be changed

ISiddiqui · 07-12-2020, 11:34 PM

Good. But as soon as FedEx indicated they were pulling out if no name change (and why did it take them this long) the decision was made.

thesloppy · 07-13-2020, 02:25 AM

Dedicated fans, thank you so much for your patience in this matter, after some serious reflection & consideration Mr. Snyder is delighted to announce your Washington, But What About Black-on-Black Crime!

Ksyrup · 07-13-2020, 06:54 AM

As quickly as this came together, it seems obvious that they already had contingency plans made likely years ago and were just waiting for a situation in which they knew it wouldn't blow over.

cartman · 07-13-2020, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Good. But as soon as FedEx indicated they were pulling out if no name change (and why did it take them this long) the decision was made.

Introducing the Washington UPS Is Much Betters

JPhillips · 07-13-2020, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by thesloppy

Dedicated fans, thank you so much for your patience in this matter, after some serious reflection & consideration Mr. Snyder is delighted to announce your Washington, But What About Black-on-Black Crime!

Washington Democrats are the Real Racists

molson · 07-13-2020, 11:20 AM

I like the old Bill Simmons idea of just not having a name. They're just Washington. I think that would look awesome on schedules and other league publications that has team names for every other team, but just god damn "Washington, bitches", for Washington. (The "bitches" being just for illustration there).

miami_fan · 07-13-2020, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

As quickly as this came together, it seems obvious that they already had contingency plans made likely years ago and were just waiting for a situation in which they knew it wouldn't blow over.

Which makes the whole thing worse IMO.

Ksyrup · 07-13-2020, 11:42 AM

Yeah, it's exactly what it looked like - once the sponsors/money became an issue, they caved.

spleen1015 · 07-13-2020, 11:48 AM

There was a dude on ESPN radio this morning that said the NFL has a list of approved names for all franchises just in case there is a needed name change for any reason.

He mentioned he thinks they'll be the Washington Warriors because Snyder already owns the rights to that name. Part of his ownership of the team gives him the rights to any arena league team put in Washington and that is the name he was going to use if it ever happened.

NobodyHere · 07-13-2020, 11:53 AM

He should go with the Washington Posts. That's a good one.

JPhillips · 07-13-2020, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

He should go with the Washington Posts. That's a good one.

Sponsored by the Washington Times.

stevew · 07-13-2020, 12:28 PM

https://twitter.com/WillBrinson/stat...597503495?s=20

molson · 07-13-2020, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

https://twitter.com/WillBrinson/stat...597503495?s=20

Now I have to be disappointed that they're not going to end up as the Washington Radskins.

Edit: Someone already made a perfect logo and everything.

Spoiler

ISiddiqui · 07-13-2020, 12:47 PM

Looks like Washington Generals isn't on that list.

Warhammer · 07-13-2020, 01:17 PM

Would anyone object to Washington Pale Faces with Lincoln’s profile as the logo?

NobodyHere · 07-13-2020, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhammer

Would anyone object to Washington Pale Faces with Lincoln’s profile as the logo?

Did you know that Lincoln was a Republican?

I didn't either until Trump told me.

CU Tiger · 07-13-2020, 01:45 PM

What do we do when they learn that Redskins might be the less offensive portion of the name Washington Redskins...

Ksyrup · 07-13-2020, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015

There was a dude on ESPN radio this morning that said the NFL has a list of approved names for all franchises just in case there is a needed name change for any reason.

He mentioned he thinks they'll be the Washington Warriors because Snyder already owns the rights to that name. Part of his ownership of the team gives him the rights to any arena league team put in Washington and that is the name he was going to use if it ever happened.

I thought I read that he claimed ownership of that name but let it lapse and some dude who has trademarked a bunch of names now has it. Pretty sure that dude grabbed Warriors several years ago.

EDIT: Here it is - Washington trademark squatter adds to his portfolio - ProFootballTalk

Quote:

Washington owner Daniel Snyder previously had claimed the rights to “Washington Warriors.” The Washington Times recently reported that the team previously has abandoned that trademark.

The USPTO database shows that McCaulay filed an application for trademark protection of the Warriors name in July 2015.

spleen1015 · 07-13-2020, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I thought I read that he claimed ownership of that name but let it lapse and some dude who has trademarked a bunch of names now has it. Pretty sure that dude grabbed Warriors several years ago.

That may be so. I'm just repeating what I heard.

ISiddiqui · 07-13-2020, 02:18 PM

Warriors may not be that bad.

but Washington Swamp Things would be wonderfully trolly.

cuervo72 · 07-13-2020, 03:01 PM

Alliteration is lazy.

(Yes, Phillies and Flyers. I know.)

molson · 07-13-2020, 03:22 PM

Warriors is the most depressingly boring of all options.

JPhillips · 07-13-2020, 03:43 PM

Washington Amendments

BYU 14 · 07-13-2020, 03:46 PM

Just change it to skins and have a shirtless picture of Fabio as your logo

GrantDawg · 07-13-2020, 04:33 PM

Washington Deep State

NobodyHere · 07-13-2020, 04:37 PM

Washington Deep Throats

NobodyHere · 07-13-2020, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molson

Warriors is the most depressingly boring of all options.

agreed

Vince, Pt. II · 07-13-2020, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

What do we do when they learn that Redskins might be the less offensive portion of the name Washington Redskins...

The Onion, way ahead of their time: Washington Redskins change their name to the D.C. Redskins

thesloppy · 07-13-2020, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molson

Warriors is the most depressingly boring of all options.

This is pretty much how I feel.

...but I went to a high school that changed mascots from Indians to Warriors the very first year I was there (that was 1987 to show how far behind the curve Snyder is), and for the next 4 years our mascot was some reject dressed in one of those $5 sets of plastic breastplate, helmet & sword that you find at Toys R Us.

At one time in history the school's nickname had been Stenographers.....how could you choose Warriors over that? In hindsight the absolute lack of effort behind the Warriors nickname was actually totally fitting & on brand for the school, but that's not what you want from your sportsball team.

stevew · 07-13-2020, 06:11 PM

Stenographers is freaking awesome. The Normandy(OH) Invaders are a great one I saw a few years ago.

stevew · 07-13-2020, 06:12 PM

Miami of Ohio dumped “redskins” in 1997 also.

stevew · 07-13-2020, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molson

I like the old Bill Simmons idea of just not having a name. They're just Washington. I think that would look awesome on schedules and other league publications that has team names for every other team, but just god damn "Washington, bitches", for Washington. (The "bitches" being just for illustration there).

The District would be another simple yet good name.

molson · 07-13-2020, 06:23 PM

The weirdest one in my state is the Orofino Maniacs. Which would be a pretty awesome name - if it wasn't literally named after a state psychiatric hospital, which it is.

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whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	Being on the internet should require a license, like for driving. All it needs in the curriculum really is one thing: Do not believe anything on the internet unless you have the "W Questions" answered: Who, what, where, when. Then if it turns out to be a true story/quote, anwer the "Why" of the Story/Quote and voila. I mean, even if he said it, why in the world would you believe the premise knowing the Who. If you just consume shit, it doesn't even matter if you think you are racist (in this case), you still perpetuate a racist ideology to other equally 'gullible' people. Germany didn't become Nazi Germany because everybody hated the Jews (or communists before that) all along or those that did would have acted on that, but because they were told why hating jews was sth they should do because of what they are about to do. Then some unwittingly and some wittingly spread it along until enough are convinced to go along. (Insert whatever other propaganda). Except those dumbasses did not have a way of checking those Claims within a minute or 5, unlike todays dumbasses. (Nor the means to share their thoughts millionfold.) So yeah, even 'only' being stupid and believing racist thought would be plenty terrible on it's own considering the ease of communication and plenty inexcusable considering the availability of information. __________________ “The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww!” Last edited by whomario : 07-07-2020 at 12:13 PM.

07-09-2020, 08:51 AM	#709
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Texans trade Watson and Watts to the 49ers for Mostert, Pettis and a 2022 3rd round pick??? I dont get this at all... Jimmy G on his way back to the Pats? WTF is O Brien doing to the Texans? EDIT...Apparently this is a false Twitter rumor...Sorry! Last edited by jbergey22 : 07-09-2020 at 08:58 AM.

07-10-2020, 07:02 AM	#713
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Dola, I would love for Jackson to take Edelman up on his offer to go to the Holocaust Museum. It seems like some learning needs to take place if Jackson is willing to learn. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

07-06-2020, 07:51 PM	#701
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	So it's basically a 3 year extension that'll be re-negotiated by 2025? Cool.

07-06-2020, 09:18 PM	#702
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Yeah, I mean I guess it's a placeholder in case Mahomes is clearly still the #1 QB in the league when he's in his 30's and QB salaries haven't caught up with him yet, but it's hardly the splashy deal that was in the headlines (and probably not surprisingly, there's only a couple of teams in the league stupid to actually commit that much money for that long)

07-06-2020, 11:04 PM	#705
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Even that isn't too bad... if he's bad enough that you need to walk (injury or ineffectiveness) that year will suck, but then you are free of it with no hit after that.. The really wild thing is he counts less against the cap year 1 than Frank Clark, and not much more in year 2. I don't think anyone is crying for the guy who is $140m guaranteed better off tomorrow morning, but you have to say the Chiefs got a really nice deal here, barring any stunning change of form or serious injury in the next 4 years.

07-09-2020, 07:15 PM	#710
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Damn it, I was excited for a moment.

07-10-2020, 07:06 AM	#715
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07-12-2020, 10:54 PM	#717
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Source -- Redskins to announce nickname will be changed __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

07-12-2020, 11:34 PM	#718
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Good. But as soon as FedEx indicated they were pulling out if no name change (and why did it take them this long) the decision was made. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-13-2020, 02:25 AM	#719
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	Dedicated fans, thank you so much for your patience in this matter, after some serious reflection & consideration Mr. Snyder is delighted to announce your Washington, But What About Black-on-Black Crime! __________________ Last edited by thesloppy : Today at 05:35 PM. Last edited by thesloppy : 07-13-2020 at 02:26 AM.

07-13-2020, 06:54 AM	#720
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	As quickly as this came together, it seems obvious that they already had contingency plans made likely years ago and were just waiting for a situation in which they knew it wouldn't blow over. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

07-13-2020, 11:20 AM	#723
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	I like the old Bill Simmons idea of just not having a name. They're just Washington. I think that would look awesome on schedules and other league publications that has team names for every other team, but just god damn "Washington, bitches", for Washington. (The "bitches" being just for illustration there).

07-13-2020, 11:42 AM	#725
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Yeah, it's exactly what it looked like - once the sponsors/money became an issue, they caved. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

07-13-2020, 11:48 AM	#726
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	There was a dude on ESPN radio this morning that said the NFL has a list of approved names for all franchises just in case there is a needed name change for any reason. He mentioned he thinks they'll be the Washington Warriors because Snyder already owns the rights to that name. Part of his ownership of the team gives him the rights to any arena league team put in Washington and that is the name he was going to use if it ever happened. __________________ Why choose failure when success is an option?

07-13-2020, 11:53 AM	#727
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	He should go with the Washington Posts. That's a good one. __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

07-13-2020, 12:28 PM	#729
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	https://twitter.com/WillBrinson/stat...597503495?s=20

07-13-2020, 12:47 PM	#731
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Looks like Washington Generals isn't on that list. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-13-2020, 01:17 PM	#732
Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dayton, OH	Would anyone object to Washington Pale Faces with Lincoln’s profile as the logo?

07-13-2020, 01:45 PM	#734
CU Tiger Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Backwoods, SC	What do we do when they learn that Redskins might be the less offensive portion of the name Washington Redskins...

07-13-2020, 02:18 PM	#737
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Warriors may not be that bad. but Washington Swamp Things would be wonderfully trolly. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-13-2020, 03:01 PM	#738
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Alliteration is lazy. (Yes, Phillies and Flyers. I know.) __________________ null

07-13-2020, 03:22 PM	#739
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Warriors is the most depressingly boring of all options.

07-13-2020, 03:43 PM	#740
JPhillips General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Washington Amendments __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

07-13-2020, 03:46 PM	#741
BYU 14 Coordinator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The scorched Desert	Just change it to skins and have a shirtless picture of Fabio as your logo

07-13-2020, 04:33 PM	#742
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Washington Deep State

07-13-2020, 04:37 PM	#743
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	Washington Deep Throats __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

07-13-2020, 06:11 PM	#747
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Stenographers is freaking awesome. The Normandy(OH) Invaders are a great one I saw a few years ago.

07-13-2020, 06:12 PM	#748
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Miami of Ohio dumped “redskins” in 1997 also.

07-13-2020, 06:23 PM	#750
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	The weirdest one in my state is the Orofino Maniacs. Which would be a pretty awesome name - if it wasn't literally named after a state psychiatric hospital, which it is.

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