OT - Ten clues puzzle - Page 3

Franklinnoble · 09-10-2003, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Passacaglia
I am getting really sick of that zit cream comment. Whenever I refresh this page, it takes me to the top, where I read, "I didn't know you could get high off zit cream!" Incidentally, I was thinking the same thing when I read the previous posts.

Now you have to read my "Doh!" comment at the top of the page.

If you prefer, I can edit it to read "Zit Cream"

digamma · 09-10-2003, 04:23 PM

A few observations from the grid.

Eight of the nine columns have three common letters--potentially forming "tic tac toes" with one another. Two columns have four common letters--column 5 (letter c) and column 9 (letter e).

Eight of the nine letters in touchtone are common to at least two other words, meaning that Touchtone could be the middle of our tic tac toe grid.

Just thinking out loud here.

Passacaglia · 09-10-2003, 04:24 PM

No thanks. Although, has anyone noticed that zit cream has nine letters? Perhaps that is the missing clue! :-P

I was going to post this thought earlier, but I was worried about it ending up on the top of Page 3.

Passacaglia · 09-10-2003, 04:24 PM

Whoops. zit cream has eight letters. Never mind!

JeeberD · 09-10-2003, 04:34 PM

My brain is hurting...

digamma · 09-10-2003, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by digamma
A few observations from the grid.

Eight of the nine columns have three common letters--potentially forming "tic tac toes" with one another. Two columns have four common letters--column 5 (letter c) and column 9 (letter e).

Eight of the nine letters in touchtone are common to at least two other words, meaning that Touchtone could be the middle of our tic tac toe grid.

Just thinking out loud here.

Actually, sorry, only 7 of the 9 letters in TOUCHTONE are part of the "triples."

Vince · 09-10-2003, 04:50 PM

I was trying to come up with some sort of pattern, and decided to try to make an order in which the first two have the first letter in common, second and third have the second letter in common, etc...I got stuck at the end, but I haven't tried too many different combinations. Here's what I've got:

Code:

geraldine
gillespie
microchip
tictactoe
southpark
fourhclub
pensacola
threesons
touchtone
rebelyell

digamma · 09-10-2003, 04:50 PM

Dola...

The letters with 3 (or 4) are, in order by column, are T, O/E, U, H, C, O, N, E.

Rearranged these can spell Touch One.

Bad-example · 09-10-2003, 05:00 PM

Tic tac toe and touchtone...perhaps reordering the grid along these lines...or making several smaller grids...is a step in the right direction? There are 8 ways to make a winning line in tic tac toe.

123
456
789
147
258
369
159
357

QuikSand · 09-10-2003, 07:34 PM

Okay, it looks like another nudge might be in order. So, I'll help out... hopefully this doesn't make it a giveaway from here.

Quote:

Originally posted by digamma
each of the clues have nine letters, and there are ten total clues. Does doing something like this get us anywhere? I note it is the shape of the touch tone key pad mentioned in JeeberD's post a while back...

TIC PEN REB
TAC SAC ELY
TOE OLA ELL

GER THR GIL
ALD EES LES
INE ONS PIE

MIC FOU SOU
ROC RHC THP
HIP LUB ARK

TOU
CHT
ONE

digamma was onto something here (before he summarily rejected the whole idea shortly afterward) - though not exactly what I was looking for. Regardless... this is the post I referenced when I said that someone had gotten close to the next big breakthrough.

digamma · 09-10-2003, 07:45 PM

TICTACTOE PENSACOLA REBELYELL
GERALDINE THREESONS GILLESPIE
MICROCHIP FOURHCLUB SOUTHPARK
.................. TOUCHTONE

Did you have something more like this in mind?

QuikSand · 09-10-2003, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by digamma
Did you have something more like this in mind?

Nope.

VPI97 · 09-10-2003, 07:59 PM

If you arrange the answers to the first part in a touchtone pattern (answers in a 3 x 3 square) you get:

Code:

T I C P E N R E B
T A C S A C E L Y
T O E O L A E L L
G E R T H R G I L
A L D E E S L E S
I N E O N S P I E
M I C F O U S O U
R O C R H C T H P
H I P L U B A R K
      T O U
      C H T
      O N E

Then you take out the 1st and last clue, because they were really only used to get us to make this grid. You then have:

Code:

      P E N R E B
      S A C E L Y
      O L A E L L
G E R T H R G I L
A L D E E S L E S
I N E O N S P I E
M I C F O U S O U
R O C R H C T H P
H I P L U B A R K

As you know, each of the touchtone keys represented have letters on them (1 = ABC, 2=DEF, etc). If we remove the letters that are on their respective key, we get:

Code:

      P E N R   B
      S       L Y
      O L     L L
  E R T H R G I L
A L D E E S L E S
  N E O N S P I E
M I C F O   S O U
  O C R H C T H P
H I   L   B A R K

What does that give us? Look again...

Code:

      P E N R   B
      S       L Y
      O L     L L
  E R T H R G I L
A L D E E S L E S
  N E O N S P I E
M I C F O   S O U
  O C R H C T H P
H I   L   B A R K

The answer is obvious...we're looking for a pen that is made out of bark and writes in neon colors.

QuikSand · 09-10-2003, 08:08 PM

I think I have wrapped up my hint-giving for this puzzle. I feel that I have given you ample direction, and that you have more than enough input from me to wrap this up. In fact, I've even offered a "back door" clue which would allow someone to get the final answer without even technically solving the puzzle itself... but that's just me being devious.

Unfortunately, you all seem to have moved past the relatively simple intended path to solving the puzzle, and have been looking for things that are much, much more complex. Yes, this one was tough - but with the work you've already done and the many hints and nudges you've received, I think you ought to be able to hone in on the rest.

Good luck.

Buccaneer · 09-10-2003, 08:12 PM

Code:

In any case, take those strings of 
random-seeming letterns and 
rearrange them into a three 
square square. 

S A X N I M D M H

I U M N U L U U T

J S G T Y N E S U

T E C A E R T U O

N E J D H O A C M

R O O U M P E H A

S U L A N C O N P

D C C O U U U S R

E H A M C S M M E


Now look for words in it -- 
preferably words relating 
to the alimentary canal... 

S A X N I M D M H
 \   \   X   /  |
I U M N U L U U T
   \   X   X    |
J S G T Y N E S U
 \   X   X   X  |
T E C A E R T U O
   X   X   X   \|
N E J D H O A C M
 X   X   X   X   
R O O U M P E H A
   X   X   X   X 
S U L A N C O N P
 /   X   X   X   
D C C O U U U S R
   /   X   X   \ 
E H A M C S M M E

The letters in black spell out
AND I MUST SCREAM which is 
the end of the title of Harlan 
Ellison's story I Have No Mouth 
and I Must Scream. The four 
other words are what Watson 
jotted down, and they pretty 
accurately describe his condition. 
Man, Holmes is a mean bugger 
rubbing it in like that, eh?


I HAVE NO MOUTH

Just reminded me of this.

Draft Dodger · 09-10-2003, 08:56 PM

I'm on this like Julie Andrews

Draft Dodger · 09-10-2003, 09:29 PM

ok, here's my desperate grasp...

the sound of music tells me there's numeric clues in many of the words...but, whether this is intentional or accidental, or, what to do with those numbers is beyond me

TI (Tictactoe) - 7th note of the major scale
LA (Pensacola) - 6th note of the major scale
RE (RebelYell) - 2nd note of the major scale
geraldine (no clue)
SO or RE (threesons) - 5th or 2nd note of the scale (OR the number 3)
gillespie (no clue, other than PI).
MI (Microchip) - 3rd note of the major scale
fourhclub (no clue) - maybe 4?
SO (Southpark) - 5th note
touchtone - again, maybe 1?

Buzzbee · 09-10-2003, 10:09 PM

Code:

T I C P E N R E B
T A C S A C E L Y
T O E O L A E L L
G E R T H R G I L
A L D E E S L E S
I N E O N S P I E
M I C F O U S O U
R O C R H C T H P
H I P L U B A R K
      T O U
      C H T
      O N E

OR

Code:

TIC TAC TOE
PEN SAC OLA
REB ELY ELL

GER ALD INE
THR EES ONS
GIL LES PIE

MIC ROC HIP
FOU RHC LUB
SOU THP ARK

    TOU
    CHT
    ONE

Draft Dodger · 09-10-2003, 10:12 PM

or

PHP Code:




TIC PEN REB 
TAC SAC ELY 
TOE COL ELL  
 
GER THR GIL  
ALD EES LES  
INE ONS PIE 
 
MIC FOU SOU 
ROC RHC THP 
HIP LUB ARK 
 
    TOU 
    CHT 
    ONE

Draft Dodger · 09-10-2003, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by QuikSand
Solecismic was right to start laying the answers in sequence and noting the "transitions" between the adjacent answers... but collectively, you haven't made the next big link with that.

If you can put those two bits of thinking together, you'll be right on your way. You have so many ideas, it's hard for so much to be getting past you with so few options left.

those damn italicized words are killing me.

btw, I had no idea that solecism was an actual word until tonight.

Solecismic · 09-10-2003, 10:30 PM

The odds against ten words listed sharing at least two letters in the same position with the following word accidentally are staggering.

So I'd continue on that front. These words were chosen for the similarities. Figuring out how to arrange a keypad based on that knowledge is a complete mystery.

I'm sure it's obvious, but I'm not getting it. Best of luck.

Easy Mac · 09-10-2003, 10:53 PM

SO what we can tell from this puzzle is:

Quiksand is in a gay love affair with the creator of tic-tac-toe, and likes to eats club sandwiches while having touchtone phone sex.

Franklinnoble · 09-10-2003, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Draft Dodger

those damn italicized words are killing me.

btw, I had no idea that solecism was an actual word until tonight..

Those italicized words bring to mind:

"Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few." - Winston Churchill

Franklinnoble · 09-10-2003, 11:33 PM

dola... from hyperdictionary.com:

SOLECISM
Pronunciation: 'sâli`sizum

Matching Terms: Solecist, Solecistic, Solecistical, Solecistically

WordNet Dictionary

Definition: [n] a socially awkward or tactless act

Synonyms: faux pas, gaffe, gaucherie, slip

See Also: bloomer, blooper, blunder, boner, boo-boo, botch, bungle, flub, foul-up, fuckup

Webster's 1913 Dictionary

Definition:

\Sol"e*cism\, n.[F. sol['e]cisme, L. soloecismus, Gr.
soloikismo`s, fr. soloiki`zein to speak or write incorrectly,
fr. so`loikos speaking incorrectly, from the corruption of
the Attic dialect among the Athenian colonists of So`loi in
Cilicia.]
1. An impropriety or incongruity of language in the
combination of words or parts of a sentence; esp.,
deviation from the idiom of a language or from the rules
of syntax.

A barbarism may be in one word; a solecism must be
of more. --Johnson.

2. Any inconsistency, unfitness, absurdity, or impropriety,
as in deeds or manners.

C[ae]sar, by dismissing his guards and retaining his
power, committed a dangerous solecism in politics.
--C.
Middleton.

The idea of having committed the slightest solecism
in politeness was agony to him. --Sir W.
Scott.

Syn: Barbarism; impropriety; absurdity.

Franklinnoble · 09-10-2003, 11:36 PM

double dola...

Good name for a software company... and I love the veiled irony of the fact that "solecismic" could be considered a solecism in itself...

Alright... I'm through digressing... somebody solve this freaking puzzle already...

Radii · 09-10-2003, 11:41 PM

my head hurts. I don't want to sleep until I've figured this damn thing out. :P

Mustang · 09-10-2003, 11:57 PM

Bah..

deleted due to stupidity.

...

Solecismic · 09-11-2003, 12:14 AM

Good work, Franklin, Dodger. Now we know the solution, we need to figure out how we got there.

Solecismic came about one night when I was choosing an AOL screen ID back in '95. I was joining in a literary trivia group, and puns were in vogue for user names. So a grammar error about the word solecism seemed funny at the time. Later, when I needed a company name, I was advised to use a made-up word.

Remind me never to visit hyperdictionary - never even heard of that version.

Solecismic · 09-11-2003, 12:22 AM

Now, going back to my incorrect grid, here's what I see...

Code:

t i c t a c t o e
p e n s a C o l a
r e b e l y e L l
g e r a L d i n e
t h R e e s o n s
g I l l e s p i e
m i c r o C h i p
f o U r h c l u b
s o u t H p a r k
t o u c H t o n e

Note that the capitalized letter spell out "Churchill".

And they are all letters in that group outlined earlier - the adjacent word also has the same letter in the same position.

However, why those letters and not the other 10 in that group? And how do you come up with the proper ordering for the words so that Churchill jumps out at you?

Buzzbee · 09-11-2003, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Franklinnoble
Those italicized words bring to mind:

"Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few." - Winston Churchill

And QuikSand's puzzle brings to mind:

"Never in the course of human history has one man felt so stupid by so much from so little." - Buzzbee

QuikSand · 09-11-2003, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Draft Dodger
or

PHP Code:

TIC PEN REB TAC SAC ELY TOE COL ELL GER THR GIL ALD EES LES INE ONS PIE MIC FOU SOU ROC RHC THP HIP LUB ARK TOU CHT ONE

When I said above that you're making things too complicated for yourselves - this is a fine example. The above could be described as "putting the words into 3x3 grids, and then putting those grids into another grid." You're doing more than you have to here.

Sorry about the extra nudging... I can't help myself.

Draft Dodger · 09-11-2003, 09:35 AM

I hate Quicksand

Marmel · 09-11-2003, 10:08 AM

Did anybody mention that the pound sign on a touchtone phone looks identical to a tic tac toe board?

Franklinnoble · 09-11-2003, 10:50 AM

PHP Code:




t p r g t g m f s t 
i e e e h i i o o o  
c n b r r l c u u u  
t s e a e l r r t c 
a a l l e e o h h h 
c c y d s s c c p t 
t c e i o p h l a o 
o o l n n i i u r n 
e l l e s e p b k e 
 
 
tic pen reb ger thr gil mic fou sou tou 
tac sac ely ald ees les roc rhc thp cht 
toe col ell ine ons pie hip lub ark one

Just trying to look at it differently...

QuikSand · 09-11-2003, 11:04 AM

For what it's worth... there's an error in the 3x3 gridded "PENSACOLA" that you might want to fix as you work through this. I just noticed it myself ... it currently spells out "PEN SAC COL" by mistake.

Marmel · 09-11-2003, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Franklinnoble

PHP Code:

t p r g t g m f s t i e e e h i i o o o c n b r r l c u u u t s e a e l r r t c a a l l e e o h h h c c y d s s c c p t t o e i o p h l a o o l l n n i i u r n e a l e s e p b k e tic pen reb ger thr gil mic fou sou tou tac sac ely ald ees les roc rhc thp cht toe col ell ine ons pie hip lub ark one

Just trying to look at it differently...

QuikSand · 09-11-2003, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by QuikSand
For what it's worth... there's an error in the 3x3 gridded "PENSACOLA" that you might want to fix as you work through this. I just noticed it myself ... it currently spells out "PEN SAC COL" by mistake.

VPI97 · 09-11-2003, 11:11 AM

lol

Code:

tic pen reb ger thr gil mic fou sou tou
tac sac ely ald ees les roc rhc thp cht
toe ola ell ine ons pie hip lub ark one

cuervo72 · 09-11-2003, 11:14 AM

If we don't get this soon, I think we're going to have to Ask Marilyn&#174.

Marmel · 09-11-2003, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by VPI97
lol

Code:

tic pen reb ger thr gil mic fou sou tou tac sac ely ald ees les roc rhc thp cht toe ola ell ine ons pie hip lub ark one

Well, then this is the 3x10 grid.

Maple Leafs · 09-11-2003, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Marmel
Did anybody mention that the pound sign on a touchtone phone looks identical to a tic tac toe board?

Yes, I did. It was long enough ago that Quik probably would have flagged it if I'd been on to anything, so I'd say it's a red herring.

Buzzbee · 09-11-2003, 11:32 AM

Code:

T | I | C
----------
T | A | C
----------
T | O | E

Could there be anything to the idea that since each word has nine letters each word would fit in to a tic-tac-toe grid? Or am I just over-analyzing?

Marmel · 09-11-2003, 11:34 AM

For some reason I am reminded of those little puzzles where you have to convert one word to another by changing just one letter per step, for example (very simplistic):

bake
make
male

I can't seem to link more than a few of these 3 letter combos together in any 1 sequence though.

Franklinnoble · 09-11-2003, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VPI97
lol

Code:

tic pen reb ger thr gil mic fou sou tou tac sac ely ald ees les roc rhc thp cht toe ola ell ine ons pie hip lub ark one

So, Kickstand, is this grid good? Or are we hopping down another fruitless rabbit trail again?

Bee · 09-11-2003, 01:19 PM

Code:

T I C  T A C  T O E

P E N  S A C  O L A
R E B  E L Y  E L L
G E R  A L D  I N E

T H R  E E S  O N S
G I L  L E S  P I E
M I C  R O C  H I P

F O U  R H C  L U B
S O U  T H P  A R K
T O U  C H T  O N E

I think it has something to do with the same letters connecting the words and splitting it up into 3 X 3 grids (perhaps taking out tic tac toe?)

Radii · 09-11-2003, 01:27 PM

Code:

T H R  E E S  O N S
G I L  L E S  P I E
M I C  R O C  H I P

S O U  T H P  A R K
P E N  S A C  O L A
F O U  R H C  L U B

R E B  E L Y  E L L
G E R  A L D  I N E
T O U  C H T  O N E

This obviously isn't it... but perhaps it points in the right direction with some other word order?

QuikSand · 09-11-2003, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VPI97

Code:

tic pen reb ger thr gil mic fou sou tou
tac sac ely ald ees les roc rhc thp cht
toe ola ell ine ons pie hip lub ark one

Use this grid.

QuikSand · 09-11-2003, 01:41 PM

Both from earlier in this thread, referenced (and in one element, restated) for your convenience:

Quote:

Originally posted by QuikSand
Solecismic was right to start laying the answers in sequence and noting the "transitions" between the adjacent answers... but collectively, you haven't made the next big link with that.

Quote:

Originally posted by QuikSand
While you seem to be focusing on the things that are staying the same from segment to segment, perhaps you need to think instead about the things that are changing.

QuikSand · 09-11-2003, 01:46 PM

I apologize if from where you stand my clues and hints have been of little help. It's a fine line between a gentle nudge in the right direction, and just opening the curtain completely. I fear, however, that in my efforts to avoid giving the whole puzzle away, I have just added to the puzzlers' agony.

So, there are some bigger hints. There's the grid. There's the clue that I already gave that isn't getting the attention it deserved.

Go get it.

KevinNU7 · 09-11-2003, 01:53 PM

http://www.bearklaw.com/grid.htm

Each word shares similar letter in similar position as you read down

1 to 2: A or C
2 to 3: E or L
3 to 4: E or L
4 to 5: R or N
5 to 6: E or S
6 to 7: I or I

7 to 8: R or C
8 to 9: O or U or H
9 to 10: O or U or H

10 to 1: T or E

Can a phrase or word be made from this?

09-10-2003, 04:34 PM	#105
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	My brain is hurting... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

09-10-2003, 04:50 PM	#107
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	I was trying to come up with some sort of pattern, and decided to try to make an order in which the first two have the first letter in common, second and third have the second letter in common, etc...I got stuck at the end, but I haven't tried too many different combinations. Here's what I've got: Code: geraldine gillespie microchip tictactoe southpark fourhclub pensacola threesons touchtone rebelyell __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

09-10-2003, 05:00 PM	#109
Bad-example College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: san jose CA	Tic tac toe and touchtone...perhaps reordering the grid along these lines...or making several smaller grids...is a step in the right direction? There are 8 ways to make a winning line in tic tac toe. 123 456 789 147 258 369 159 357 __________________ Karaoke Katie drove the crowd wild Every time she'd sing they'd come in for miles Curtain came up, Katie came on Drinking like a lumberjack and singing Delta Dawn

09-10-2003, 07:45 PM	#111
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	TICTACTOE PENSACOLA REBELYELL GERALDINE THREESONS GILLESPIE MICROCHIP FOURHCLUB SOUTHPARK .................. TOUCHTONE Did you have something more like this in mind? Last edited by digamma : 09-10-2003 at 07:46 PM.

09-10-2003, 07:59 PM	#113
VPI97 Hokie, Hokie, Hokie, Hi Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Kennesaw, GA	If you arrange the answers to the first part in a touchtone pattern (answers in a 3 x 3 square) you get: Code: T I C P E N R E B T A C S A C E L Y T O E O L A E L L G E R T H R G I L A L D E E S L E S I N E O N S P I E M I C F O U S O U R O C R H C T H P H I P L U B A R K T O U C H T O N E Then you take out the 1st and last clue, because they were really only used to get us to make this grid. You then have: Code: P E N R E B S A C E L Y O L A E L L G E R T H R G I L A L D E E S L E S I N E O N S P I E M I C F O U S O U R O C R H C T H P H I P L U B A R K As you know, each of the touchtone keys represented have letters on them (1 = ABC, 2=DEF, etc). If we remove the letters that are on their respective key, we get: Code: P E N R B S L Y O L L L E R T H R G I L A L D E E S L E S N E O N S P I E M I C F O S O U O C R H C T H P H I L B A R K What does that give us? Look again... Code: P E N R B S L Y O L L L E R T H R G I L A L D E E S L E S N E O N S P I E M I C F O S O U O C R H C T H P H I L B A R K The answer is obvious...we're looking for a pen that is made out of bark and writes in neon colors. __________________ CT & Jivin - "Surprisingly Entertaining"

09-10-2003, 04:23 PM	#102
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	A few observations from the grid. Eight of the nine columns have three common letters--potentially forming "tic tac toes" with one another. Two columns have four common letters--column 5 (letter c) and column 9 (letter e). Eight of the nine letters in touchtone are common to at least two other words, meaning that Touchtone could be the middle of our tic tac toe grid. Just thinking out loud here.

09-10-2003, 04:24 PM	#103
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	No thanks. Although, has anyone noticed that zit cream has nine letters? Perhaps that is the missing clue! :-P I was going to post this thought earlier, but I was worried about it ending up on the top of Page 3.

09-10-2003, 04:24 PM	#104
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Whoops. zit cream has eight letters. Never mind!

09-10-2003, 04:50 PM	#108
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	Dola... The letters with 3 (or 4) are, in order by column, are T, O/E, U, H, C, O, N, E. Rearranged these can spell Touch One.

09-10-2003, 08:08 PM	#114
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	I think I have wrapped up my hint-giving for this puzzle. I feel that I have given you ample direction, and that you have more than enough input from me to wrap this up. In fact, I've even offered a "back door" clue which would allow someone to get the final answer without even technically solving the puzzle itself... but that's just me being devious. Unfortunately, you all seem to have moved past the relatively simple intended path to solving the puzzle, and have been looking for things that are much, much more complex. Yes, this one was tough - but with the work you've already done and the many hints and nudges you've received, I think you ought to be able to hone in on the rest. Good luck.

09-10-2003, 08:56 PM	#116
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	I'm on this like Julie Andrews __________________ Mile High Hockey

09-10-2003, 09:29 PM	#117
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	ok, here's my desperate grasp... the sound of music tells me there's numeric clues in many of the words...but, whether this is intentional or accidental, or, what to do with those numbers is beyond me TI (Tictactoe) - 7th note of the major scale LA (Pensacola) - 6th note of the major scale RE (RebelYell) - 2nd note of the major scale geraldine (no clue) SO or RE (threesons) - 5th or 2nd note of the scale (OR the number 3) gillespie (no clue, other than PI). MI (Microchip) - 3rd note of the major scale fourhclub (no clue) - maybe 4? SO (Southpark) - 5th note touchtone - again, maybe 1? __________________ Mile High Hockey

09-10-2003, 10:12 PM	#119
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	or PHP Code: `TIC PEN REB TAC SAC ELY TOE COL ELL GER THR GIL ALD EES LES INE ONS PIE MIC FOU SOU ROC RHC THP HIP LUB ARK TOU CHT ONE` __________________ Mile High Hockey

09-10-2003, 10:30 PM	#121
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	The odds against ten words listed sharing at least two letters in the same position with the following word accidentally are staggering. So I'd continue on that front. These words were chosen for the similarities. Figuring out how to arrange a keypad based on that knowledge is a complete mystery. I'm sure it's obvious, but I'm not getting it. Best of luck.

09-10-2003, 10:53 PM	#122
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	SO what we can tell from this puzzle is: Quiksand is in a gay love affair with the creator of tic-tac-toe, and likes to eats club sandwiches while having touchtone phone sex.

09-10-2003, 11:33 PM	#124
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	dola... from hyperdictionary.com: SOLECISM Pronunciation: 'sâli`sizum Matching Terms: Solecist, Solecistic, Solecistical, Solecistically WordNet Dictionary Definition: [n] a socially awkward or tactless act Synonyms: faux pas, gaffe, gaucherie, slip See Also: bloomer, blooper, blunder, boner, boo-boo, botch, bungle, flub, foul-up, fuckup Webster's 1913 Dictionary Definition: \Sol"e*cism\, n.[F. sol['e]cisme, L. soloecismus, Gr. soloikismo`s, fr. soloiki`zein to speak or write incorrectly, fr. so`loikos speaking incorrectly, from the corruption of the Attic dialect among the Athenian colonists of So`loi in Cilicia.] 1. An impropriety or incongruity of language in the combination of words or parts of a sentence; esp., deviation from the idiom of a language or from the rules of syntax. A barbarism may be in one word; a solecism must be of more. --Johnson. 2. Any inconsistency, unfitness, absurdity, or impropriety, as in deeds or manners. C[ae]sar, by dismissing his guards and retaining his power, committed a dangerous solecism in politics. --C. Middleton. The idea of having committed the slightest solecism in politeness was agony to him. --Sir W. Scott. Syn: Barbarism; impropriety; absurdity.

09-10-2003, 11:36 PM	#125
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	double dola... Good name for a software company... and I love the veiled irony of the fact that "solecismic" could be considered a solecism in itself... Alright... I'm through digressing... somebody solve this freaking puzzle already...

09-10-2003, 11:41 PM	#126
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	my head hurts. I don't want to sleep until I've figured this damn thing out. :P

09-10-2003, 11:57 PM	#127
Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	Bah.. deleted due to stupidity. ... __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its... Last edited by Mustang : 09-11-2003 at 12:19 AM.

09-11-2003, 12:14 AM	#128
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	Good work, Franklin, Dodger. Now we know the solution, we need to figure out how we got there. Solecismic came about one night when I was choosing an AOL screen ID back in '95. I was joining in a literary trivia group, and puns were in vogue for user names. So a grammar error about the word solecism seemed funny at the time. Later, when I needed a company name, I was advised to use a made-up word. Remind me never to visit hyperdictionary - never even heard of that version.

09-11-2003, 12:22 AM	#129
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	Now, going back to my incorrect grid, here's what I see... Code: t i c t a c t o e p e n s a C o l a r e b e l y e L l g e r a L d i n e t h R e e s o n s g I l l e s p i e m i c r o C h i p f o U r h c l u b s o u t H p a r k t o u c H t o n e Note that the capitalized letter spell out "Churchill". And they are all letters in that group outlined earlier - the adjacent word also has the same letter in the same position. However, why those letters and not the other 10 in that group? And how do you come up with the proper ordering for the words so that Churchill jumps out at you?

09-11-2003, 09:35 AM	#132
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	I hate Quicksand __________________ Mile High Hockey

09-11-2003, 10:08 AM	#133
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	Did anybody mention that the pound sign on a touchtone phone looks identical to a tic tac toe board? __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

09-11-2003, 10:50 AM	#134
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	PHP Code: `t p r g t g m f s t i e e e h i i o o o c n b r r l c u u u t s e a e l r r t c a a l l e e o h h h c c y d s s c c p t t c e i o p h l a o o o l n n i i u r n e l l e s e p b k e tic pen reb ger thr gil mic fou sou tou tac sac ely ald ees les roc rhc thp cht toe col ell ine ons pie hip lub ark one` Just trying to look at it differently...

09-11-2003, 11:04 AM	#135
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	For what it's worth... there's an error in the 3x3 gridded "PENSACOLA" that you might want to fix as you work through this. I just noticed it myself ... it currently spells out "PEN SAC COL" by mistake.

09-11-2003, 11:11 AM	#138
VPI97 Hokie, Hokie, Hokie, Hi Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Kennesaw, GA	lol Code: tic pen reb ger thr gil mic fou sou tou tac sac ely ald ees les roc rhc thp cht toe ola ell ine ons pie hip lub ark one __________________ CT & Jivin - "Surprisingly Entertaining"

09-11-2003, 11:14 AM	#139
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	If we don't get this soon, I think we're going to have to Ask Marilyn&#174. __________________ null

09-11-2003, 11:32 AM	#142
Buzzbee College Starter Join Date: Jun 2002	Code: T \| I \| C ---------- T \| A \| C ---------- T \| O \| E Could there be anything to the idea that since each word has nine letters each word would fit in to a tic-tac-toe grid? Or am I just over-analyzing? __________________ Ability is what you're capable of doing. Motivation determines what you do. Attitude determines how well you do it. - Lou Holtz

09-11-2003, 11:34 AM	#143
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	For some reason I am reminded of those little puzzles where you have to convert one word to another by changing just one letter per step, for example (very simplistic): bake make male I can't seem to link more than a few of these 3 letter combos together in any 1 sequence though. __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

09-11-2003, 01:19 PM	#145
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	Code: T I C T A C T O E P E N S A C O L A R E B E L Y E L L G E R A L D I N E T H R E E S O N S G I L L E S P I E M I C R O C H I P F O U R H C L U B S O U T H P A R K T O U C H T O N E I think it has something to do with the same letters connecting the words and splitting it up into 3 X 3 grids (perhaps taking out tic tac toe?) Last edited by Bee : 09-11-2003 at 01:20 PM.

09-11-2003, 01:27 PM	#146
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Code: T H R E E S O N S G I L L E S P I E M I C R O C H I P S O U T H P A R K P E N S A C O L A F O U R H C L U B R E B E L Y E L L G E R A L D I N E T O U C H T O N E This obviously isn't it... but perhaps it points in the right direction with some other word order? Last edited by Radii : 09-11-2003 at 01:29 PM.

09-11-2003, 01:46 PM	#149
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	I apologize if from where you stand my clues and hints have been of little help. It's a fine line between a gentle nudge in the right direction, and just opening the curtain completely. I fear, however, that in my efforts to avoid giving the whole puzzle away, I have just added to the puzzlers' agony. So, there are some bigger hints. There's the grid. There's the clue that I already gave that isn't getting the attention it deserved. Go get it.

09-11-2003, 01:53 PM	#150
KevinNU7 College Starter Join Date: May 2003 Location: Beantown	http://www.bearklaw.com/grid.htm Each word shares similar letter in similar position as you read down 1 to 2: A or C 2 to 3: E or L 3 to 4: E or L 4 to 5: R or N 5 to 6: E or S 6 to 7: I or I 7 to 8: R or C 8 to 9: O or U or H 9 to 10: O or U or H 10 to 1: T or E Can a phrase or word be made from this? __________________ Boston Bashers - III.14 - (8347) Last edited by KevinNU7 : 09-11-2003 at 02:05 PM.

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