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Old 10-30-2009, 11:04 PM   #1451
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Unless there's only one wolf, this game is over as far as I can tell...
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:34 PM   #1452
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OK, so we need to take out CR then?
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:36 PM   #1453
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Unless there's only one wolf, this game is over as far as I can tell...

it is.

We vote Martin then they kill a villager making it 2-2-1. Game over.

Otherwise they vote in a block making it 3-3-1. Night kill. Game over.

I think EF's vote ends it.
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:45 PM   #1454
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it is.

We vote Martin then they kill a villager making it 2-2-1. Game over.

Otherwise they vote in a block making it 3-3-1. Night kill. Game over.

I think EF's vote ends it.

Yup. Sorry Schmidty, it's probably not the way you wanted to see it end, but this game is over.
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:46 PM   #1455
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unless there is only one wolf
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:47 PM   #1456
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unless there is only one wolf

Which doesn't jive with what Schmidty told us on Day 1.
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Old 10-31-2009, 01:14 AM   #1457
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Well, that deadline went the way it was expected to, and yet, didn't.

I think this game's over. No shame in calling it, Schmidty.

We could play it out, even to Tuesday, but I don't see a way for the village to win it unless the wolves/Igor actively act to lose it.
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Old 10-31-2009, 01:48 AM   #1458
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I just want to get something off of my chest. I'm not going to direct this specifically at someone, but if you don't have any interest in playing once the game starts, instead of just drifting through and not caring if you live or die, please try to find a replacement. For example, I am pretty darned sure that Darth would have been happy to take someone's spot.

That is all.


You would be pretty darned right in saying that Lord Vilus would have been happy to take someone's spot.

i also just have a general game question, if everyone votes nightfall but vote for different people, well that's allowed correct?
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Old 10-31-2009, 01:49 AM   #1459
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i mean that still ends the day right?
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Old 10-31-2009, 02:22 AM   #1460
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Making it official:

VOTE MARTIND
VOTE NIGHTFALL


I am Igor (to clear up any remaining doubt), and there are two wolves left. I was converted in the night turn, so the current position is 3-2, with 2 players not counting towards either side - lynching me (which will now happen if the two wolves vote for me) will make that 3-2, with 1 player not counting, and the (unblockable, unless I'm missing something) night kill makes it 2-2 and game over, wolves win.

Apologies for my lack of contributions over the last couple of days, but I was in a position where I didn't feel that I could contribute anything useful to the game - it was obvious that I wasn't trying to help the village (so anything I posted would not have been trusted), and I didn't see any moves I could make that would help my position. I was also aware that I wouldn't count towards win conditions if I was converted, but didn't want to make other people aware of that (as there was an assumption that the converted cultist would count as a monster), so keeping quiet seemed to be the best option...

(Making sure to double-check this post, because I screwed up my fake reveal a couple of days back...)
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Old 10-31-2009, 03:05 AM   #1461
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I'm embarrassed I missed that in the rules.
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Old 10-31-2009, 05:26 AM   #1462
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I'm embarrassed for how poorly I played this game.
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Old 10-31-2009, 09:58 AM   #1463
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So who are the wolves remaining??
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Old 10-31-2009, 10:39 AM   #1464
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Not me, unfortunately.
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Old 10-31-2009, 10:59 AM   #1465
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CR and CW.

They took some risks in voting and it paid off.

Good game Schmidty, I think all the early reveals hurt us a lot in the long run.
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Old 10-31-2009, 11:11 AM   #1466
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I think forcing me to be lynched hurt us a lot in the long run
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Old 10-31-2009, 12:26 PM   #1467
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Honestly, you guys were pretty much with my list. On day 3 or something I sent Schmidty a PM saying those who I thought most likely to be wolves were Jag, Raiders Army, Coffee Warlord and NTN. I had 2/4, but the one I ended up most surprised about was Jag.
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Old 10-31-2009, 12:47 PM   #1468
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Unfortunately I didn't think it through before voting today. We still would have a slim chance if that were the case (if we didn't hit on the brutal).

I apologize for my kneejerk reaction.

Obviously the wolves also didn't realize that rule either or they would have taken out a villager for the win last night. Looking at it that way I would rather it end this way instead of with us making a miraculous comeback after last night as it's not like we understood the rule and they didn't. Since we both misunderstood the rule it ends up being a wash with how the game ended.
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Old 10-31-2009, 12:50 PM   #1469
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I wish that I had gone with my original take on RA and stayed with the theory that if Abe was bad RA was good. I would have been lobbying more and more for him to not be lynched if that were the case.

I also wish I didn't let the whole JAG is a wolf mantra talk me into it. I really didn't have him high on my suspect list but after hearing so many people say that he must be a wolf I just kind of believed it. Then when he was on the block and didn't seem to be fighting back I read it as a wolf who had given up.



Oh well, back to RL: Congrats again JAG!!!
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Old 10-31-2009, 01:20 PM   #1470
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Obviously the wolves also didn't realize that rule either or they would have taken out a villager for the win last night. Looking at it that way I would rather it end this way instead of with us making a miraculous comeback after last night as it's not like we understood the rule and they didn't. Since we both misunderstood the rule it ends up being a wash with how the game ended.

Which rule?
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Old 10-31-2009, 01:25 PM   #1471
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Which rule?

That converting Martin would have no effect on the win conditions.
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Old 10-31-2009, 01:26 PM   #1472
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Which rule?

Igor not counting toward wolves or village after being converted.
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Old 10-31-2009, 01:49 PM   #1473
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Obviously the wolves also didn't realize that rule either or they would have taken out a villager for the win last night. Looking at it that way I would rather it end this way instead of with us making a miraculous comeback after last night as it's not like we understood the rule and they didn't. Since we both misunderstood the rule it ends up being a wash with how the game ended.

The wolves did 'take out' a villager last night, though - Igor counted as a villager/Party-goer until he was converted, and only then counted towards neither side. The position going into the night phase was 4 villagers (including Igor), 2 wolves, 1 neutral.
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Old 10-31-2009, 03:28 PM   #1474
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Ok, well I won't drag it out any further.

Good game guys.
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Old 10-31-2009, 03:28 PM   #1475
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The wolves did 'take out' a villager last night, though - Igor counted as a villager/Party-goer until he was converted, and only then counted towards neither side. The position going into the night phase was 4 villagers (including Igor), 2 wolves, 1 neutral.

True but if they took out a villager they would have wrapped up the game at that point.

It would have been 2 non-Igor villagers and me against 2 wolves and you. The voting block would have been 3-3 which means game over unless everyone came out and claimed to be a wolf at that point so you would need to guess where to vote (but so would have I).

It would have been easier for the wolves as they know who they are where the villagers would not so the wolves could make their votes a bit more obvious. By all reason the game would be over at that point.
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Old 10-31-2009, 03:29 PM   #1476
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Chief Rum and Coffee Warlord were the last two Monsters.
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Old 10-31-2009, 03:29 PM   #1477
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Good game Schmidty. Thanks for running it.
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Old 10-31-2009, 03:29 PM   #1478
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CW was brutal I am guessing.
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Old 10-31-2009, 03:30 PM   #1479
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CW was brutal I am guessing.

Nope. That was CR.
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Old 10-31-2009, 03:36 PM   #1480
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I would have guessed CW since he was the one being pushed for votes a few times.

Well done wolves.
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Old 10-31-2009, 04:00 PM   #1481
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Glad to see this one all wrapped up now. Good game, Schmidty, I had a lot of fun.

Go wolves!
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Old 10-31-2009, 04:00 PM   #1482
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Old 10-31-2009, 04:08 PM   #1483
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Unfortunately I didn't think it through before voting today. We still would have a slim chance if that were the case (if we didn't hit on the brutal).

I apologize for my kneejerk reaction.

Obviously the wolves also didn't realize that rule either or they would have taken out a villager for the win last night. Looking at it that way I would rather it end this way instead of with us making a miraculous comeback after last night as it's not like we understood the rule and they didn't. Since we both misunderstood the rule it ends up being a wash with how the game ended.

I was thinking that too.

Well, so much for my guess at the end. Good fun everyone.
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Old 10-31-2009, 04:19 PM   #1484
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Glad to see this one all wrapped up now. Good game, Schmidty, I had a lot of fun.

Go wolves!

So who was responsible for orchestrating that awful night 1 kill?
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Old 10-31-2009, 04:31 PM   #1485
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So who was responsible for orchestrating that awful night 1 kill?

I don't it was any one of us, but I don't udnerstand why it has been ripped so much. I never felt anyone was seriously going to go after you in the end. You weren't even one of the primary two up for lynching on that day, and it was Day one, besides.

Plus, you claim to have a read on me, so I saw no sense in keeping you around. Plus, I was worried hoops might be protected, and I felt bad because we kept killing him Night One. Turned out to be a good move, because he was protected Night One.
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Old 10-31-2009, 05:29 PM   #1486
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Nicely played guys!
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Old 10-31-2009, 06:26 PM   #1487
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CR/CW,

Do you think I was the cultist?
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Old 10-31-2009, 06:35 PM   #1488
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CR/CW,

Do you think I was the cultist?

Not even for a little bit. MartinD's reveal was just too weird. I wasn't sure what to make of it because I didn't think the cultist would be so bold. When you came out with your reveal, that turned things around for me, and it was pretty clear Martin was the cultist between the two of you.
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Old 10-31-2009, 08:53 PM   #1489
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Nope. For a short while, we halfway thought hoops mighta been the cultist. He was the only real suspect there.
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Old 10-31-2009, 10:36 PM   #1490
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Sorry I was so terrible as the seer. I almost didnt scan abe night 1, which would have changed things, but my orders got sent in at 9:00 rather than 8:59
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Old 10-31-2009, 10:40 PM   #1491
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So who was responsible for orchestrating that awful night 1 kill?

I actually think it was me who first suggested you being killed Danny.
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