2017 College Football Season thread

[jbergey22]

These announcers are just dumb. You are a huge dog with a chance to get in field goal range to win the game yet the announcers think they should have played conservative, run down the clock and win it OT.

They were in the dream situation just quit talking announcers.

[jbergey22]

Aggressive call on 3rd on 15th by Miss St defense left a huge gap in the defense. And now bama leads.

3 and out with a chance to win the game...

[cuervo72]

Hey, TV crew. You don't need the FG target line there.

[jbergey22]

This changes weekly.....

Alabama
Clemson
Oklahoma
---------------------
Georgia-Such a bad loss
Miami-Still without a loss and a very impressive win
Wisky-undefeated


Which one or Richts teams are you taking? Or are you jumping Wisky above?

[CrescentMoonie]

So?

1. Bama
2. Miami
3. Oklahoma
4. Clemson

[Galaril]

Notre Dame holy shit boy did Miami ever punch these choir boys in the mouth , take their lunch and come back to get their dessert too. Hopefully people will start treating them as the middle of the pack program they really are in the last twenty years. The last big game they have won seriously was in the early 90s.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by Galaril

Notre Dame holy shit boy did Miami ever punch these choir boys in the mouth , take their lunch and come back to get their dessert too. Hopefully people will start treating them as the middle of the pack program they really are in the last twenty years. The last big game they have one seriously was early 90s.

Besides the 2013 National Championship game?

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

So?

1. Bama
2. Miami
3. Oklahoma
4. Clemson

Clemson was trash again today, FSU driving towards the end down 4 isn't exactly taking care of business for them. They SHOULD drop to 5 ... but in my opinion of what the poor opinions of the committee's will be, I agree with your rankings.

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Besides the 2013 National Championship game?

"One=won"

And they got manhandled in the game..

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by mauchow

"One=won"

And they got manhandled in the game..

Oh ok. I didnt catch the won part.

Still, they must have "won" a couple a big games that year in order to be undefeated going in if I cared to argue about it.

Couldnt help myself
They won at Oklahoma, at Michigan St and beat Stanford at home. Oklahoma was ranked either 8th at the time or at the end of the regular season. The other two were ranked as well.

Id sort of agree with the original statement that they have fallen off a lot but they have had a few decent seasons along the way and still get top tier recruits. I think their coaching has been average at best over the past few years.

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Oh ok. I didnt catch the won part.

Still, they must have "won" a couple a big games that year in order to be undefeated going in if I cared to argue about it.

They were one of the luckiest teams ever having won multiple games in crazybfashion that year. But they did have good wins that season, yes.

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Besides the 2013 National Championship game?

The one where they showed and got blown off the field?

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by mauchow

"One=won"

And they got manhandled in the game..

Haha yeah I just caught that too:-)

[JonInMiddleGA]

Bama
Clemson
Miami
OU

I think

[CrescentMoonie]

I swear, if Gary Patterson could just consistently recruit above average or better QBs he'd win the Big 12 every year.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

I swear, if Gary Patterson could just consistently recruit above average or better QBs he'd win the Big 12 every year.

I'm honestly really surprised he hasn't been offered a truckload of money to leave at any point really.

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by Atocep

I'm honestly really surprised he hasn't been offered a truckload of money to leave at any point really.

He's making $4.75m before bonuses already. He's in a major conference in a major metro. No good reason to go anywhere. Back when Franchione left TCU, they were still in C-USA.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by Atocep

I'm honestly really surprised he hasn't been offered a truckload of money to leave at any point really.

His salary is like 5 million dollars and he's tied into oil futures shares that he can collect provided he never leaves. So you'd be looking at over 10 million to even get him to consider it

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

His salary is like 5 million dollars and he's tied into oil futures shares that he can collect provided he never leaves. So you'd be looking at over 10 million to even get him to consider it

It hasn't always been that high and he was a more proven commodity by '08 or '09 than a guy like Butch Jones has ever been.

[MrBug708]

LIke I said, he's really tied into Texas, especially in the DFW area

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Oh ok. I didnt catch the won part.

Still, they must have "won" a couple a big games that year in order to be undefeated going in if I cared to argue about it.

Couldnt help myself
They won at Oklahoma, at Michigan St and beat Stanford at home. Oklahoma was ranked either 8th at the time or at the end of the regular season. The other two were ranked as well.

Id sort of agree with the original statement that they have fallen off a lot but they have had a few decent seasons along the way and still get top tier recruits. I think their coaching has been average at best over the past few years.

Agree. Purely mental at this point. The lack of confidence and inability to handle the hype and pressure of a big game exudes the whole program. And the only way to fix that is to have a figurehead with a strong enough personality to pull out of the players the intensity and focus needed to win games of this magnitude. Or at the very least be competitive. Blowouts by halftime for a team that recruits this well is beyond unacceptable.

[Suicane75]

I don't know who Matt Millens partner is, but I admire the effort he puts into making sure Millen can't too far into a tangent that'll get him fired. It's impressive friendsmanship.

[digamma]

Essentially Bama, Clemson, Miami, Oklahoma and Wisconsin control their own destiny. Everyone else needs help.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by mauchow

Clemson was trash again today, FSU driving towards the end down 4 isn't exactly taking care of business for them. They SHOULD drop to 5 ... but in my opinion of what the poor opinions of the committee's will be, I agree with your rankings.

Clemson will take anywhere in the top 5. All they have to do is win the last 2 and beat Miami and they are in.

I'm sure if you talked to Dabo, he'd be just fine with it too, he much prefers coaching from the role of the aggrieved.

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by Butter

Clemson will take anywhere in the top 5. All they have to do is win the last 2 and beat Miami and they are in.

I'm sure if you talked to Dabo, he'd be just fine with it too, he much prefers coaching from the role of the aggrieved.

Right - Everyone in the top 5 controls their destinies now. Win out and no one should question. I'm just merely thinking that Clemson shouldn't go UP from their win this week. Just win baby.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by mauchow

Clemson was trash again today, FSU driving towards the end down 4 isn't exactly taking care of business for them. They SHOULD drop to 5 ... but in my opinion of what the poor opinions of the committee's will be, I agree with your rankings.

Just to be fair here, Clemson put up 100 yards more offense and 7 more points against FSU than Bama did.

They also held FSU to a season low rushing output, despite having 5 defensive starters out yesterday.

It wasnt very pretty, and again Clemson backed off instead of putting a team away and found itself in a game that should have long been over, but to say they were trash?

I think that's a stretch.

FWIW my top 4 at this point is
Bama
Miami
Wisconsin
Clemson

[mauchow]

You're right, trash was too strong. It was iffy until that interception sealed the deal. Could have gone either way at that point.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by digamma

Essentially Bama, Clemson, Miami, Oklahoma and Wisconsin control their own destiny. Everyone else needs help.

Georgia also still has control of their own destiny, best I can figure.

Win out, which would include beating either Bama or Auburn for the SEC title, that's gotta get them in I think.

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Georgia also still has control of their own destiny, best I can figure.

Win out, which would include beating either Bama or Auburn for the SEC title, that's gotta get them in I think.

Definitely.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Butch Jones reportedly fired this morning.
Brady Hoke reportedly the interim.

Oddly enough, I was planning to comment about how UT still having a shot at bowl eligibility was probably the clearest indication that there are too many bowl games I'd ever come across.

[CrescentMoonie]

Even having Brady Hoke to fill the gap wasn't enough to save Butch Jones.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

Even having Brady Hoke to fill the gap wasn't enough to save Butch Jones.

Heh, yeah, I thought about that.

I don't really think he's going to be a candidate to fill the position long term

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by mauchow

You're right, trash was too strong. It was iffy until that interception sealed the deal. Could have gone either way at that point.

Very true. 3 fumbles inside the 5 (recovered 1) made it seem close. Should ah be been 28 or 35-0 at half.

Then Tony Elliott went into his normal shell and we had a game. Prior to that INT I expected fsu to win.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Arkansas QB Cole Kelley charged with driving while intoxicated after LSU loss - CBSSports.com

[Edward64]

Oh great.

Austin Allen is back and Cole is really for next year so hopefully he grows up some.

[murrayyyyy]

Originally Posted by Edward64

Oh great.

Austin Allen is back and Cole is really for next year so hopefully he grows up some.

Hogs Football out heavy tonight @ Z330. Everyone seems to be celebrating @BretBielema getting fired. Cole Kelly buying shots for the bar.

— cmorse418 (@CMorse418) November 12, 2017

Dickson Street is having a strong season. Took out Baker Mayfield and then turn around and took down the fattest QB in D-1 NCAA football. Our bar game is strong in Fayettenam.

[mauchow]

A friend of mine says Wisconsin gets left out in this scenario:

Wisconsins wins out.
Miami wins out.
Auburn wins out.

He says Auburn and Bama will get the nod over Wisconsin at 11-1. I just don't see it..

Mind you, I live in SEC country

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by mauchow

A friend of mine says Wisconsin gets left out in this scenario:

Wisconsins wins out.
Miami wins out.
Auburn wins out.

He says Auburn and Bama will get the nod over Wisconsin at 11-1. I just don't see it..

Mind you, I live in SEC country

Might depend on how bad Bama gets beats by Auburn.

[jbergey22]

https://www.si.com/college-football/...ow_facebook_si

Sounds like an ethical coach at least.

What a tool! He should give back his paycheck for the embarrassment he brought that school.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

What a tool! He should give back his paycheck for the embarrassment he brought that school.

I've been lobbying for the state AG to go after him for fraud. I mean, he collected paychecks to be a football coach, not sure that's what UT has had for a while now.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I've been lobbying for the state AG to go after him for fraud. I mean, he collected paychecks to be a football coach, not sure that's what UT has had for a while now.

[tarcone]

Was at a rugby tourney in Mobile, AL. Great time but missed Iowa's beat down.

Great job by Wiscy.

Iowa gets 66 yards. What a joke. And the OC is on tap to be our next HC. Yay.

My 4 are :

Miami
Clemson
Alabama
Wisconsin

OU and Auburn are 5 and 6.

If Wiscy wins out they are in. The committee is not leaving an undefeated B1G team out. Just get this thought that it wont happen out of your mind.

Im tired of FKF.

[tarcone]

Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

Defense 21, Offense 17 at the end of the 3rd between the Itty Bitty Ten teams. Iowa - Wisconsin was bad HS football.

Combined 5-26 on 3rd downs. Combined 19-42, 176 yards, 4 INT passing. Combined 7 turnovers.

It's 2017 and that dreck was on network TV.

Too bad you hate defense. Because defense wins championships.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

https://www.si.com/college-football/...ow_facebook_si

Sounds like an ethical coach at least.

What a tool! He should give back his paycheck for the embarrassment he brought that school.

That's a very poorly written, unclear article. Can someone tell me what happened there?

[CrescentMoonie]

Coaches take recruits with them from one job to another all the time. Telling a player that you won't be there, and that he should look elsewhere, isn't remotely unethical.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

Coaches take recruits with them from one job to another all the time. Telling a player that you won't be there, and that he should look elsewhere, isn't remotely unethical.

Point is that he doesnt have another job and probably wont get a job close to the prestige of Tennessee. He is telling the kid to leave for no reason other than sour grapes.

A courtesy call letting the kid know he sucks and was fired from his job is fine anything badmouthing the team that paid his friking salary for getting that recruit is pure classless and unethical.

If he signed a non-disclosure form Tennessee should sue him and recover some of that wasted money back.

[CU Tiger]

It was a SHOCK to many that Ingle had a committable offer from Tenn.
I'd wager money that wouldnt be the case with a new staff.
Far be it from me to ever defend Brick by Brick Butch, but this was throwing a solid to a kid who did you no favors in return.

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Biggest game for Miami in a long, long time. I think the team is probably too young and inconsistent to win this one, but I hope I'm wrong.

Happy to be wrong here. This is the most fun I've had since the early 2000s.

[Atocep]

Florida board saying Chip Kelly hire is imminent.

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by mauchow

A friend of mine says Wisconsin gets left out in this scenario:

Wisconsins wins out.
Miami wins out.
Auburn wins out.

He says Auburn and Bama will get the nod over Wisconsin at 11-1. I just don't see it..

Mind you, I live in SEC country

I agree. Leaving out an undefeated Wisconsin, who'll have to beat Michigan and Ohio State to get there, seems unfathomable. Then again, I'm not sure Wisconsin gets by that unscathed either.

Hell in that scenario there is a decent enough chance that 2 loss SEC Champ Auburn gets left out (imagine the howls).