12-01-2012, 09:40 AM | #1 | ||
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Chiefs player kills girlfriend then self at their practice facility this morning. Name not yet released.
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12-01-2012, 09:48 AM | #2 |
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Nothing official released, but looks like it may have been Jovan Belcher.
Jason LaConfora of CBSSports says it's Belcher. https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/s...04815321096193 Last edited by mckerney : 12-01-2012 at 10:09 AM. |
12-01-2012, 10:01 AM | #3 | |
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Police: Chiefs player kills girlfriend then kills self - KCTV5
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12-01-2012, 10:02 AM | #4 |
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Already updated on his Wikipedia profile. Amazing ...
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12-01-2012, 10:04 AM | #5 |
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Wow. Expect some crazy fallout
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12-01-2012, 10:15 AM | #6 |
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He may have shot himself in front of teammates and coaches in the parking lot of the facility.
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I can't even imagine if that were the case. A friend from high school was killed by her husband and their child was killed before he killed himself and when I found out I was just floore.d To see the latter half in real life? I can;t even imagine
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12-01-2012, 10:34 AM | #8 |
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Absolutely awful.
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12-01-2012, 10:35 AM | #9 | ||
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Yeah, can't imagine that. No mention of teammates here, but it says when he arrived at the facility he was met by coaches. Chiefs player kills girlfriend then kills self - KansasCity.com EDIT: And Even worse: Quote:
Also reading they had a two month old child. Last edited by mckerney : 12-01-2012 at 10:49 AM. |
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12-01-2012, 10:38 AM | #10 |
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How can they play tomorrow?
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12-01-2012, 10:51 AM | #11 |
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This sounds like a shitty situation, but it never even occurred to me that they would postpone this game. I imagine they will hold a moment of silence tomorrow, and then just move on.
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12-01-2012, 10:53 AM | #12 |
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Wow, that is just horrible....Why on earth and with a 2 month old child and in front of her mother
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12-01-2012, 10:53 AM | #13 |
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12-01-2012, 10:54 AM | #14 |
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If people saw the shooting I don't know how they can be ready emotionally. That could take a good deal of professional help to get beyond. I don't think there's a logistical way to postpone, but I don't know how they can be in any frame of mind that would allow them to focus on the game.
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12-01-2012, 10:58 AM | #16 |
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Was this at the stadium or another location?
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12-01-2012, 10:58 AM | #17 | |
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Can't imagine coaching a game 24 hours after trying to talk one of your players out of killing himself. |
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12-01-2012, 11:00 AM | #18 |
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12-01-2012, 11:02 AM | #19 |
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I read the scouts report on Belcher from ESPN insider. There is a line in there that would have sounded a lot less poor yesterday:
He is quick to locate the ball and is quick to pull the trigger and fill. What a horrific incident. |
12-01-2012, 11:02 AM | #20 |
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I love the Twitter police who come out immediately and tell you how you should feel and act.
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12-01-2012, 11:03 AM | #21 |
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I'm curious as to whether it is standard to use this facility on game day. I don't see how you can bring players there tomorrow morning.
I'm assuming, but don't know, that practice has been cancelled today.
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12-01-2012, 11:05 AM | #22 |
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Well, there aren't any more bye weeks, so I can't see how they would be able to postpone the game, and cancelling it would be a detriment to the other team.. Moving the postseason back a week would be an option, but it wouldn't really be fair to give a team an extra bye week..
If I were a player, I think that I would want to get on the field and play and dedicate the game to him and his woman and his baby, maybe kick some of my game check to the grandparent to help take care of the child and be glad things weren't worse. I'd do as much as I could to get my mind off what happened.
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12-01-2012, 11:10 AM | #23 |
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The Redskins played the week after Sean Taylor got murdered. No point in even thinking that the game would be suspended when a murderer kills himself. Regardless of where it happened.
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I think that might be different for some. Taylor was "this happened to one of our own, we got his back." The other is one of their own did it. I'm not sure, one day later, there is as much of a rally point for some.
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12-01-2012, 11:15 AM | #25 |
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I'm reading that Pioli and/or Crennel confronted him in the parking lot to talk him down. He thanked them both and then killed himself in front of them.
Is this confirmed or still speculation? e: Reading Pioli for sure. Crennel might be a wildcard. May have been other personnel. Double Edit: Now I read a source that said Crennel and others, but not Pioli. I'll just wait for confirmation. Twitter world makes this crazy to follow. Last edited by Scoobz0202 : 12-01-2012 at 11:18 AM. |
12-01-2012, 11:19 AM | #26 |
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Kansas City Star is staying Pioli, Crennel and other team personnel were present.
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12-01-2012, 11:22 AM | #27 |
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A question that can't be answered, why?!?
Awful to see this tragedy. |
12-01-2012, 11:38 AM | #28 |
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Awful. It's only the Panthers coming to town; cancel the game.
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12-01-2012, 11:38 AM | #29 |
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12-01-2012, 11:41 AM | #30 |
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I would assume that with tv contract, and all of that stuff the NFL wouldn't allow a forfeit but ya never know
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12-01-2012, 11:57 AM | #31 |
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If they have a moment of silence tomorrow it should be for the victim not this fucking piece of shit.
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12-01-2012, 12:00 PM | #32 |
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Just awful.
They should forfeit the game, just because nobody's mind will actually be on the game. You can't play like that. It takes a minute to get your head together. What an awful tragedy. |
12-01-2012, 12:11 PM | #33 |
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So sad.
As for the game itself, I guess to us, the NFL is just for fun...it's "not really a job"...but to the players, it's their job. I certainly wouldn't have a problem with them showing up and playing the game on Sunday, that's for sure. |
12-01-2012, 12:22 PM | #34 |
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ESPN finally confirmed it, so it must be true.
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12-01-2012, 12:27 PM | #35 |
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Yeah, and ESPn puts both Crennel and Pioli there at the suicide as well.
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12-01-2012, 12:36 PM | #40 |
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I haven't watched the Chiefs this year or really paid much attention to them. He was their starting MLB?
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Over a Trey Songz concert, and in front of her mother, presumably with the baby nearby? Wow.
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12-01-2012, 01:08 PM | #44 |
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The Chiefs had a team meeting/walk through scheduled this morning after the shooting and it was moved to the stadium. The practice facility is located across the parking lot from the stadium near one of the entrances to the stadium. Fans attending the game will/would drive by the practice facility if that entrance is open tomorrow.
The reports are that players arriving at the facility saw Belcher in his car appearing troubled and that Pioli and Crennel went out to talk to him. He thanked them for everything they had done for him and then shot himself when police arrived. Just horrific and terribly sad. |
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I can't see the NFL allowing a forfeit, especially when it could have an impact on the number one draft pick. If they reschedule the game, I suppose it could move to Monday or Tuesday, but would that really make any difference? Anything beyond that could mess up the schedules of other teams. |
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I would like them to move the game to Thursday night Week 18, just before the playoffs begin and after the regulra season ends.
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12-01-2012, 01:17 PM | #48 |
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How will Romeo be able to coach a game just over 24 hours after watching his player blow his head off? What sort of prep will go into the game from this point forward? Whose head will be in this game? It's too soon.
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