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Old 08-02-2009, 05:24 PM   #1
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Small Game - Vanilla WW (Village Wins)

Looking back to do the history thread I see the small games are not given numbers. Because of that I will do a quick basic small game for a maximum of 8 players.

The rules are very generic WW. No backstory other than you are trapped in a room and can only get out when either the wolves win (1:1) and only they get out or the village wins by eliminating the wolves.


Village Roles:
Seer - you can scan someone to find out their allegiance once a night

BG - you may protect someone at night (you will not learn the identity of the attacker upon successful block), you may not protect the same person on back to back nights


Wolf Roles:
Brutal - when/if you get lynched you take a villager with you


Day Deadline: 9 PM EST

Night Deadline: 10 PM EST


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Old 08-02-2009, 05:25 PM   #2
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1. PurdueBrad - seer (day/night 2 "duke")
2. Danny - villager (killed night three)
3. claphamsa - brutal wolf
4. J23
5. nfg22 - villager (killed night one)
6. KWhit - wolf (lynched day one)
7. JetsIn06 - villager (lynched day three)
8. Lathum

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Old 08-02-2009, 06:37 PM   #3
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I'll play, for sure. And you can't even vote me on D1 EF, perfect!
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:54 PM   #4
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Sure, I can play too though if someone who is new or hasn't played in a while wants my spot, feel free to give it to them.
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:05 PM   #5
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New rule, mandatory PB vote day one....
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:42 PM   #6
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Old 08-02-2009, 08:56 PM   #7
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I'll join in if you don't mind that it would be my first game.


All I need to know is to vote for PurdueBrad on day one, right?
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Old 08-02-2009, 09:23 PM   #8
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I'll join in if you don't mind that it would be my first game.


All I need to know is to vote for PurdueBrad on day one, right?

do you know him from another board?
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Old 08-02-2009, 09:25 PM   #9
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Nope, just folloing EagleFan's late addition to the rules!
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Old 08-02-2009, 10:41 PM   #10
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Nope, just folloing EagleFan's late addition to the rules!

I like this guy.

Now if he could teach my wife to listen that easily....

Just to clarify since this is a message board and sarcasm doesn't always translate. No need to vote for PB, he just has some odd paranoia that I actually vote for him every day one. Not sure where he gets that from...
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Old 08-02-2009, 10:42 PM   #11
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On another note, welcome J23. New players are always a good thing.
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Old 08-02-2009, 11:24 PM   #12
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Welcome J23! A bulls fan I assume.
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Old 08-02-2009, 11:33 PM   #13
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Welcome J23! A bulls fan I assume.

Yes, but not where my handle came from actually.
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Old 08-02-2009, 11:49 PM   #14
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Ah, so where did the handle come from them if you don't my curiosity?
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Old 08-03-2009, 12:17 AM   #15
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Nothing to do with sports, and nothing particualarly interesting.
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Old 08-03-2009, 08:08 AM   #16
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is a cunning unbalancing in a game this small?
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Old 08-03-2009, 09:19 AM   #17
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is a cunning unbalancing in a game this small?

Wasn't sure about that one to be honest. If the thought is that it will unbalance the game I can remove the cunning.
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Old 08-03-2009, 12:03 PM   #18
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i'm just raising the issue - not sure if it does or doesn't.

still debating if i have the time to play too
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Old 08-03-2009, 01:36 PM   #19
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Old 08-03-2009, 02:10 PM   #20
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Old 08-03-2009, 05:20 PM   #21
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EF, I was actually going to send a PM, I definitely think having a cunning wolf, with only 8 players is a bit much. It'll be a challenge for the village as it is, without the wolf roles.
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Old 08-03-2009, 06:14 PM   #22
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Does a seer and BG tip the scales toward the village if there is no cunning?
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Old 08-03-2009, 06:24 PM   #23
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I don't think so with 8 players. Two bad lynches and kills and the wolves win. Usually two wolves have 10-11 players, so having the two roles in there is fine since there is only 8 players.
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Old 08-03-2009, 06:25 PM   #24
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Old 08-03-2009, 07:20 PM   #25
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I'll play if you wanna get this thing started
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Old 08-03-2009, 07:29 PM   #26
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Going to send out the roles shortly and it will be game on.
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Old 08-03-2009, 07:43 PM   #27
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Game on. Day one deadline is 9 PM EST Tuesday. Night one 10 PM EST Tuesday.

For the record, the vanilla villagers received the following PM:

You are a vanilla villager.

For lynch votes please bold the vote and seperate it from the rest of the post, if it includes more than just a vote.

No major background to the game. You're trapped in a room. Last night you woke up and found EagleFan mauled horribly. At least one of you is a werewolf and you aren't getting out until you rid yourselves of him/them.
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Old 08-03-2009, 07:48 PM   #28
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Checking in and, although I'm a good guy, I definitely don't hate the fact that EF got mauled by something.
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Old 08-03-2009, 07:48 PM   #29
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First deadline tomorrow night right?
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Old 08-03-2009, 07:50 PM   #30
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First deadline tomorrow night right?

Yeah, 9 pm EST.
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Old 08-03-2009, 07:55 PM   #31
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Checking in and, although I'm a good guy, I definitely don't hate the fact that EF got mauled by something.

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Old 08-03-2009, 07:57 PM   #32
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Jumping on WoW for a bit. Will check back to see if there are any questions for me after a while.
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Old 08-03-2009, 08:01 PM   #33
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checking in.

I wont be around for the Wed deadline if I am still alive.
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Old 08-03-2009, 08:02 PM   #34
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hmmm, I think the mods have collectively decided im too likely to get lynched day 1 to ever make a wolf

villegar here!
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Old 08-03-2009, 08:02 PM   #35
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Checking in and, although I'm a good guy, I definitely don't hate the fact that EF got mauled by something.

Wow. That sounds wolfish.

Oh wait. Eaglefan got mauled? Yeah, I agree.

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Old 08-03-2009, 08:05 PM   #36
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Regarding strategy, since we are in such a small game and there are only two wolves, the seer should reveal after day 1 if they can clear someone or find a wolf. That guarantees another scan as the BG can protect them.

For example right now we are 6-2. If we miss on the first day which we likely will that puts us at 4-2. If the seer reveals, clears someone that puts us with a 50% of finding a wolf and not losing the game on day 2. If the BG or Seer are up for a lynch, don't wait too long to reveal, especially the BG who can protect themselves night 1 and then shift to protecting the seer night 2 after he reveals.
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Old 08-03-2009, 08:07 PM   #37
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Regarding strategy, since we are in such a small game and there are only two wolves, the seer should reveal after day 1 if they can clear someone or find a wolf. That guarantees another scan as the BG can protect them.

For example right now we are 6-2. If we miss on the first day which we likely will that puts us at 4-2. If the seer reveals, clears someone that puts us with a 50% of finding a wolf and not losing the game on day 2. If the BG or Seer are up for a lynch, don't wait too long to reveal, especially the BG who can protect themselves night 1 and then shift to protecting the seer night 2 after he reveals.
this stuck me as odd... but the math adds up! wow to small games!
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Old 08-03-2009, 08:09 PM   #38
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Regarding strategy, since we are in such a small game and there are only two wolves, the seer should reveal after day 1 if they can clear someone or find a wolf. That guarantees another scan as the BG can protect them.

For example right now we are 6-2. If we miss on the first day which we likely will that puts us at 4-2. If the seer reveals, clears someone that puts us with a 50% of finding a wolf and not losing the game on day 2. If the BG or Seer are up for a lynch, don't wait too long to reveal, especially the BG who can protect themselves night 1 and then shift to protecting the seer night 2 after he reveals.

you assume the BG will automaticaly protect themselves N1
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Old 08-03-2009, 08:46 PM   #39
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Old 08-03-2009, 08:57 PM   #40
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you assume the BG will automaticaly protect themselves N1

Wouldn't that be the best choice given the lack of information so early in the game?
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Old 08-03-2009, 10:03 PM   #41
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Wouldn't that be the best choice given the lack of information so early in the game?

not always. I know when I am the BG there are times I don't self protect night 1 so if I need to reveal day 2 I keep the wolves guessing.
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Old 08-03-2009, 10:08 PM   #42
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not always. I know when I am the BG there are times I don't self protect night 1 so if I need to reveal day 2 I keep the wolves guessing.

I think provided that the seer is not revealed that the BG protecting themselves night 1 makes by far the most sense. That way the seer can reveal after night 1 and be assured of getting one more scan in.
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Old 08-03-2009, 10:09 PM   #43
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not always. I know when I am the BG there are times I don't self protect night 1 so if I need to reveal day 2 I keep the wolves guessing.

In bigger games, it can depend of course. But I think in this small game the BG protecting himself is a good choice.
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Old 08-03-2009, 10:40 PM   #44
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I think provided that the seer is not revealed that the BG protecting themselves night 1 makes by far the most sense. That way the seer can reveal after night 1 and be assured of getting one more scan in.

yeah, but as long as the BG didnt protect the seer night 1 they still can protect them, plus, the wolves would never know anyway.

I'm just saying it isn't so cut and dry.
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Old 08-03-2009, 11:25 PM   #45
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Old 08-04-2009, 01:03 AM   #46
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Old 08-04-2009, 08:43 AM   #47
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FYI gents, clap wanted me to let you guys know he's having technical issues today.

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Old 08-04-2009, 08:53 AM   #48
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FYI gents, clap wanted me to let you guys know he's having technical issues today.

Have a good game!

Clap is his own technical issue. If you talk to him, ask him if he's asked out that girl from the Metro yet. If he hasn't, then I may have to vote him.
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Old 08-04-2009, 08:55 AM   #49
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FYI: Today is my 15th anniversay so I will be out for dinner with the wife and kids tonight. I will be able to be online for the deadlines and maybe some throughout the night but not constant.
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:03 AM   #50
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FYI: Today is my 15th anniversay so I will be out for dinner with the wife and kids tonight. I will be able to be online for the deadlines and maybe some throughout the night but not constant.


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