Werewolf XXVIII: Mad Wizard and the Wolves (Game over Pg45)

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by saldana

yes!!!! i knew i was right! and this time the bastage didnt get to kill me along with him.

I do believe you knew you were right about CW as well.

I am planning on doing, either tonight or the weekend after this, a study on what is considered a good hit % for bad guys.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I do believe you knew you were right about CW as well.

I am planning on doing, either tonight or the weekend after this, a study on what is considered a good hit % for bad guys.

Werewolf rankings!

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Werewolf rankings!

Werewolf hot or not?

[saldana]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I do believe you knew you were right about CW as well.

I am planning on doing, either tonight or the weekend after this, a study on what is considered a good hit % for bad guys.

you had to ruin it for me

[Tyrith]

Will someone please believe that I'm not a bad guy now?

[Tyrith]

[hoopsguy]

Tyrith, I'm considerably closer to believing it after re-reading some of the stuff from last night. But who do you think is now that Sack is being vouched for by Barkeep and Saldana?

And do you think there is any way we are facing multiple bad guys at this point?

Don't need answers on this until Night phase is over, but those are the questions I'm asking myself at the moment in trying to figure out where to go on Day 7 - assuming I'm still around.

[Lathum]

I'm waiting for the night phase to be over and then I plan on revealing my role

[SackAttack]

Wow. I guess we seriously dodged a bullet there. I don't know if AlanT had the tiebreaking abilities he was claiming, but I'm glad the voting rules tripped him and gave us a human kill.

Now hopefully we get through the night actions okay.

[SirFozzie]

Good news folks.

I just saved..

no.. you'd kill me if I re-ran that old joke.

There's some flashes of lights, and insane laughter continues to echo through the village, but once again, when all of you return to the center of town.. you're all there. We'll, all of you are there, except for one who's not all there.

Hmm. Confusing? Good

Day 8 is upon us. Voting ends at 10 PM

[Tyrith]

Oh lord. I don't think there's any way we're facing multiple baddies unless it's two out of the BK/saldana/sack group who are working together. You're good, if we assume all three of them are good and I'm good then both schmidty and lathum would have to be bad, which seems highly unlikely. It's got to be schmidty or lathum unless someone in the vanilla group has pulled a fast one. It all comes down to how much we trust lathum.

[hoopsguy]

Well, my voting record may not be the best but my bodyguard skills have been pretty good down the stretch. Schmidty was attacked last night and I repulsed it.

[Tyrith]

The way schmidty acted yesterday is completely consistent with how a bad guy might act. He didn't want to go with alan but realized how bad it would be to drag them both down with the ship.

[saldana]

{waiting for lathums role reveal}

[Tyrith]

Well, that screws that theory.

[hoopsguy]

Lathum, I think center stage is all yours.

[Tyrith]

We need to get answers out of lathum. If we don't, I think we kill him for lack of better options. Otherwise, we're going to have to start coming through the code that the vanilla group started and look for holes or possible errors. It seems unlikely, but what other options do we have?

[Lathum]

OK as promised.

I am the pack alpha. I trust schmidty because I would assume someone would inherit my role is I was killed. To put it bluntly only I can kill the wizard but I would rather not say how. I have played it close to the vest because I was trying to out the wizard and then make my move.

It was I who protected blade the night he was targeted, the lighting bolt hit me but because of my surperior strength I absorbed it even thought it weakened me. It was I who screamed out at the wizard.The reason I trust hoops is because if he was lying about being the body guard he would have claimed to have protected blade, which I know he did not. This is how I also knew blade was good.

The PM I got about that night said I was one of the targets but bacause of my power I was able to absord the lighting bolt that hit me and also take the hint fom it's twin.

I'm sorry if I am wrong Tyrith, but all of my evidence still point to you.

VOTE TYRITH

[Tyrith]

Time for me to make a long series of assumptions.

1) There are no remaining henchmen.

2) Schmidty was attacked last night, thus, he's a good guy. He isn't lying about his role, so the alpha is still alive.

3) Current role reveals mean that lathum has to be the alpha.

4) Hoops hasn't been pulling the greatest fake in history.

This leaves us with schmidty, lathum, and hoops all as good guys. If there is another henchmen in the game it has to be in the group of lathum, me, schmidty, and saldana, but this seems highly unlikely.

This means that the four remaining suspects are me, and the group of vanillas. The best defense I can mount at this point is that alan and anxiety spent their last days trying to kill me, however, voting for me seems to be the simplest solution. It isn't correct though, so either today or tomorrow, it's going to come back down to coming through posts. There's probably a crack in the vanilla code somewhere, and it has to be found.

[hoopsguy]

Backed up at work, but will look to shake free in a couple of hours. My read on the Night 8 summary is that we only have the wizard left to contend with ... hope that isn't wishful thinking.

[Tyrith]

Uh...did I miss a day in there somewhere, because six lynches + three night kills = nine dead, leaving us with the seven players we have...it should be Day 7.

[SackAttack]

Tyrith, the title of the thread says Day 7, so either it is and there's no problem, or you typo'ed.

[hoopsguy]

Nope, I think he is reacting to my typo saying Night 8 in Post #2020.

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Nope, I think he is reacting to my typo saying Night 8 in Post #2020.

Oh, right.

[SirFozzie]

No, it was my typo in the title

[Alan T]

I die and this place goes to the dogs... I swear!

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Lathum

OK as promised.

I am the pack alpha. I trust schmidty because I would assume someone would inherit my role is I was killed. To put it bluntly only I can kill the wizard but I would rather not say how. I have played it close to the vest because I was trying to out the wizard and then make my move.

It was I who protected blade the night he was targeted, the lighting bolt hit me but because of my surperior strength I absorbed it even thought it weakened me. It was I who screamed out at the wizard.The reason I trust hoops is because if he was lying about being the body guard he would have claimed to have protected blade, which I know he did not. This is how I also knew blade was good.

The PM I got about that night said I was one of the targets but bacause of my power I was able to absord the lighting bolt that hit me and also take the hint fom it's twin.

I'm sorry if I am wrong Tyrith, but all of my evidence still point to you.

VOTE TYRITH

That's good enough for me, oh powerful Alpha:


Vote Tyrith

[SirFozzie]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I die and this place goes to the dogs... I swear!

You mean the wolves, right ?

[Schmidty]

My total and undeniable circle of trust, just in case people were wondering:

hoopsguy
Lathum

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

My total and undeniable circle of trust, just in case people were wondering:

hoopsguy
Lathum

I'll expand on the above:

Full trust:

hoopsguy
Lathum

Marginal trust:

Barkeep
saldana


Distrust:

SackAttack
Tyrith

[hoopsguy]

Schmidty, just want to clarify - is your trust on Lathum role-related? Or based on accepting his post here? I'm pretty inclined to agree either way with what you are saying but if it is tied to your role then I think it is important to clarify so that he unequivocally joins the trust list for everyone else.

[hoopsguy]

Also, since I successfully guarded him last night Schmidty is now completely trusted in my eyes - and hopefully in the eyes of the other wolves.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Schmidty, just want to clarify - is your trust on Lathum role-related? Or based on accepting his post here? I'm pretty inclined to agree either way with what you are saying but if it is tied to your role then I think it is important to clarify so that he unequivocally joins the trust list for everyone else.

I would know if the Alpha was dead, and he isn't. Lathum basically revealed his role prior to today, and no one has stepped up to refute that (another "Alpha"). Now he has revealed the details of his role, and everything rings true to me.

Basically, other than irrational distrust, there doesn't seem to be any reason not to trust him.

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Also, since I successfully guarded him last night Schmidty is now completely trusted in my eyes - and hopefully in the eyes of the other wolves.

I agree. The only possible way Schmidty is not a wolf is if there are still two humans out there, and even that would've been a risky, convoluted ploy.

I trust Schmidty at this point.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Also, since I successfully guarded him last night Schmidty is now completely trusted in my eyes - and hopefully in the eyes of the other wolves.

hoops, just to clarify, doea this mean schmidty was the target of the attatck last night?

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Lathum

hoops, just to clarify, doea this mean schmidty was the target of the attatck last night?

Yes. I recieved that confirmed that I had been attacked and saved. But I'll let hoops answer that officially.

[Lathum]

OK< my distrust list basicly is Sack and tyrith, hopefully there are no henchmen left and one of them is the wizard.

I am going to work now and will not be around for the deadline so I hope there is nothing that will be life or death at that time. GL to everyone except the wizard.

[Tyrith]

He's the one out of the three amigos that I trust the least. Saldana got us alan, so he's the least suspected out of the three in my eyes. Barkeep has been the lynchpin the clearing scheme, which doesn't make sense for a bad guy. So, here it is.

VOTE SACK ATTACK

[hoopsguy]

Confirmed - Schmidty was attacked last night. I stopped it.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Confirmed - Schmidty was attacked last night. I stopped it.

What a guy. After all the shit I gave you - My hero!!

[hoopsguy]

Schmidty, I would have hated to see you snuffed so soon after getting your promotion.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Schmidty, I would have hated to see you snuffed so soon after getting your promotion.

Hehe, thanks man.

[Barkeep49]

Well I have to admit I'm confused. Confused indeed.

Is Lathum now gone for the day? If not what do you, Lathum, make of the traitor line?

[Barkeep49]

DOLA -- I'm also not so ready to believe Lathum, though the combo of Lathum and Schmidty does present reason to believe it.

[Barkeep49]

Oh and Lathum are you suggesting that we cannot kill the wizard through tonight's vote? Because honestly I think we only have the wizard left.

[Barkeep49]

Continuing my thoughts: I worry about the Sack having cracked the code. I didn't think it was that hard. On the otherhand CW never saw it, so that does suggest that it wasn't so obvious. But to me it was right there in the open and an astute player could have picked up on it, like hoops did with "brilliant" a couple games back.

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Continuing my thoughts: I worry about the Sack having cracked the code. I didn't think it was that hard. On the otherhand CW never saw it, so that does suggest that it wasn't so obvious. But to me it was right there in the open and an astute player could have picked up on it, like hoops did with "brilliant" a couple games back.

It was also in the game's first million pages, which I read after accepting the role, but didn't read exhaustively.

It predated my participation, and had I seen it sooner, I would have responded sooner.

'Astute,' though. My WW track record is an absymal one - my one win basically rode hoopsguy's strategy until the endgame, when the play became obvious. I think if I were an 'astute' player, my track record would be much better.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

like hoops did with "brilliant" a couple games back.

I am never going to live that "brilliant" thing down, am I.

Damnit, I want to run another game to redeem myself.

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

I am never going to live that "brilliant" thing down, am I.

Damnit, I want to run another game to redeem myself.

This is why I trust Schmidty now.

He's not that astute either.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

I am never going to live that "brilliant" thing down, am I.

Damnit, I want to run another game to redeem myself.

Schmidty I don't blame you at all for that. And in fairness it actually helped to balance the game and give the humans a fighting chance.