FOFC Favorite Rock Act - Round 1 Group E

[BYU 14]

No upsets last group, but a couple of possibilities here, looking at the Kansas/Black Keys, Nickleback/BOC and Bob Seger/Queens of the Stone Age matchups as those that may fall into this category.

For me, Boston/Sweet was the toughest choice in this round. Boston is the epitome of a "classic rock band" and obviously More than a Feeling is generally regarded as a top 10 rock song. Sweet just has such a solid diverse body of work that is thoroughly enjoyable to me though. (Little Willie, Action, Ballroom Blitz, Fox on the Run, Love is like Oxygen, etc)

Most votes one act	Most votes both acts	Fewest votes winner	Most votes loser
68 - Guns n' Roses - 1st rd	74 - Chuck Berry vs J Geils Band - 1st rd	23 - Jeff Buckley - Play in rd	33 - Eric Burdon & The Animals - 1st rd
66 - Neil Young - 1st rd	74 - Neil Young vs Artic Monkeys - 1st rd	23 - Counting Crows - Play in rd	29 - Phil Collins - 1st rd
64 - The Doors - 1st rd	73 - Rush vs Golden Earring - 1st rd	24 - Sammy Hagar - Play in rd	28 - Alan Parson Project - 1st rd
			28 - The Offspring - 1st rd
Largest margin of victory	Smallest margin of victory	Biggest upset	Largest Shutout
64 - Guns n' Roses vs Slipknot (68-4) - 1st rd	3 - Counting Crows vs Badfinger (23-20) PI rd	185/96 - No Doubt over Eric Burdon - 1st rd	Chicago 63 - Arcana 0 - 1st rd
63 - Chicago vs Arcana (63-0) - 1st rd	3 - The Pretenders vs The Smths (30-27) 1st rd	137/112 - Pretenders or The Smiths - 1st rd
58 - Neil Young vs Artic Monkeys (66-8) 1st rd	3 - Steppenwolf vs The Offspring (31-28) 1st rd	264/249 - Neil young & CH over Mountain - PI rd
58 - The Doors vs Gorillaz (64-6) 1st rd

[CrimsonFox]

At last a chance to vote out nickelback!

[CrimsonFox]

I can't see me voting nobody but you for all my life...

[cartman]

How is Radiohead vs. Billy Squier that close?

[CrimsonFox]

Squier rocked before he skipped around a room in a tanktop

[CrimsonFox]

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by cartman

How is Radiohead vs. Billy Squier that close?

IKR.

A mediocre alternative band (as if there's any other kind) vs a classic artist that actually rocked.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Squier rocked before he skipped around a room in a tanktop

Tis true

[korme]

So, just any rock band from the 00's has zero chance to even get past the first round? Black Keys are heralded as one of the best rock bands of this generation and they are getting smoked by fucking Kansas. This tournament is clearly for the 40s/50s crowd since there is so much bias

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by korme

So, just any rock band from the 00's has zero chance to even get past the first round? Black Keys are heralded as one of the best rock bands of this generation and they are getting smoked by fucking Kansas. This tournament is clearly for the 40s/50s crowd since there is so much bias

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This x1000000

Old Folks Forum this is!

[vex]

Alt-rock tourney will have to be next.

[korme]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

This x1000000

Old Folks Forum this is!

I don't want to be a downer because I like and appreciate the older musical generations very well, my taste is wide ranging. I just want to see some fair fights. Fucking Kansas

[HomerSimpson98]

Who the fuck are The Black Keys?!

Get off my lawn!

[thesloppy]

Speaking only for myself, I like and appreciate the Black Keys very much, but there is absolutely nothing unique about them. They're running around in a very well worn trough. Comparatively, Kansas has been hokey and overplayed throughout eternity, but they sound like KANSAS and nobody else does. The Black Keys play their bit at a much higher level, but there's an endless pool of slightly similar sounding bands extending back nearly 40 years.

[ISiddiqui]

I mean, yeah the Black Keys are conscious of using blues rock and garage rock in their sounds, but I find them far more a distinctive band than Kansas, especially after the Danger Mouse collab on "Attack & Release" and they started melding the blues/garage rock with more electronic sounds.

[thesloppy]

Hey, whatever floats your boat....that was pretty much as far as I'm willing to extend myself for Kansas.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by korme

Black Keys are heralded as one of the best rock bands of this generation

That says more about the sorry state of rock for a couple of decades than it says about TBK.

Simply being "better than f'n grunge" isn't going to cut it in this tourney.

[cartman]

Maybe The Black Keys would get more votes if they had been quoted by Bill and Ted.

[CrimsonFox]

[CrimsonFox]

I can say that I've never heard of the Black Keys (nor Y&T tho)

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Simply being "better than f'n grunge" isn't going to cut it in this tourney.

Grunge? The subgenre that hasn't really been around since the mid-90s? Talk about a 'get off my lawn' moment .

[tarcone]

I have never heard of the Black Keys either.

But Im glad this pisses you off. Esp. after Ted Nugent and George Thorogood went down. Now I dont feel alone in my pain.

[korme]

Originally Posted by tarcone

I have never heard of the Black Keys either.

But Im glad this pisses you off. Esp. after Ted Nugent and George Thorogood went down. Now I dont feel alone in my pain.

😂

[thesloppy]

I'm glad to see Billy Squier getting some love, even if I know it's inevitable he'll go down to Radiohead (whose reverence I will never understand, but have grudgingly grown to accept). Squier has some awesome songs, but seems like he'll only be remembered for one horrible video, if at all. Touching back to the Black Keys, Billy Squier was adding synths/electronics to Zeppelin-style blues-rock 35+ years ago:

[thesloppy]

Also, even though there could be 100+ bands in this tourney that we still haven't seen, now seems as good a time as any to loudly complain that Rory Gallagher didn't make the list, because he never does. If you like the blues rock, I'd maintain it doesn't get much better, and he's pretty much just a footnote over here (I'd never even heard of him 'til I was 40). Check out the ~4:00. Unbeatable.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

Also, even though there could be 100+ bands in this tourney that we still haven't seen, now seems as good a time as any to loudly complain that Rory Gallagher didn't make the list, because he never does. If you like the blues rock, I'd maintain it doesn't get much better, and he's pretty much just a footnote over here (I'd never even heard of him 'til I was 40). Check out the ~4:00. Unbeatable.

I like this quite a bit and no he did not make it, but The Monkees and Cher both did

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

I'm glad to see Billy Squier getting some love, even if I know it's inevitable he'll go down to Radiohead (whose reverence I will never understand, but have grudgingly grown to accept). Squier has some awesome songs, but seems like he'll only be remembered for one horrible video, if at all. Touching back to the Black Keys, Billy Squier was adding synths/electronics to Zeppelin-style blues-rock 35+ years ago:

Cooler snapping intro than the Addams Family!

Billy Squier·Everybody Wants You - Video Dailymotion

[CrimsonFox]

Adore this creepy thing...

[CrimsonFox]

Can SOOOOOOOOOOO hear Beatles influence in Radiohead...

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by BYU 14

I like this quite a bit and no he did not make it, but The Monkees and Cher both did

what do the monkees and cher have to do with the blues?

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

what do the monkees and cher have to do with the blues?

I'm blue that they made the tournament

[BYU 14]

And just to close on Billy Squier, Piper, his band prior to going solo had some pretty decent stuff in the mid/late 70's.

[thesloppy]

The Monkees are funny in that they've taken the very unique path of being immediately considered a manufactured joke of a band which somehow served to soften the criticism against them, and raise their respect with each generation. For nearly every other band of that generation, public opinion has evolved in the opposite direction. Nowadays some of the biggest Monkees defenders are some of the most devoted music nerds. Even lots of folks who are somewhat up-to-date with music don't realize the Monkees last hit record of new music was released just 13 months ago. My personal opinion hasn't much wavered over the years...that's some pretty good pop music, but nothing particularly special.

[thesloppy]

Originally Posted by BYU 14

And just to close on Billy Squier, Piper, his band prior to going solo had some pretty decent stuff in the mid/late 70's.

Nice. I've never heard any of that, thx.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

Nice. I've never heard any of that, thx.

YW, they are definitely one of those bands that should have made it much bigger than they did. Hell they opened for a who's who of arena rock back in the day. Kiss, ZZ Top, Styx, etc

Here is another I wore out my 8 track player with, LOL.

[Groundhog]

I saw the Black Keys open for someone probably 10 years ago. Never listened to an album of theirs, but the live show was pretty great - to the point where I can't remember who they opened for.

[Critch]

While we're complaining about voting results, I dont get how Aerosmith can handily beat The Turtles.

On one side you've got The Turtles, one of the great 60's bands with all-time classics like "Happy Together" and "Elenore".

On the other you've got Aerosmith who, other than a brief period as a backing band for Run DMC, have served up a constant stream of steaming crap.

[tarcone]

There is the rub. Aerosmith was a great 70s band. That faded until they teamed up with RunDMC. And, ironically, that was the end of RunDMC and the rebirth of Aerosmith.

You listed 2 Turtles songs, but I could list a dozen Aerosmith songs that are just as good or better.

But then, taste is what this is about. See Thorogood and Nugent getting knocked out.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by tarcone

But then, taste is what this is about. See Thorogood and Nugent getting knocked out.

Not that you are still bitter about that

[BYU 14]

Am I the only one that is surprised to see Motorhead and Jeff Beck in such a dog fight? Beck is an amazing guitarist, but I really thought the Godfathers of speed metal would win by 15-20 here. Very interesting matchup and though I voted for Lemmy and Co, it is cool to see Beck getting so much love.

[thesloppy]

Aerosmith made so many horrible fucking songs, and balladeered the still-fresh corpse of hard rock and heavy metal straight to the heart of the fucking sun in the '90s, that I can't give them even the slightest credit for their '70s work.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

Aerosmith made so many horrible fucking songs, and balladeered the still-fresh corpse of hard rock and heavy metal straight to the heart of the fucking sun in the '90s, that I can't give them even the slightest credit for their '70s work.

they were indeed one of the things spinal tap was mocking

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by korme

I don't want to be a downer because I like and appreciate the older musical generations very well, my taste is wide ranging. I just want to see some fair fights. Fucking Kansas

Seedings. Right now, nearly all of the top seeds are winning. There's a reason why they are the higher seeds but just like in March Madness, the matchups are inherently unfair. You would be seeking matchups like 238 vs 227.

[CrimsonFox]

The Motorhead/Jeff Beck vote is interesting.

Anyone feel passionate about either? All I got is Ace of Spades

[Groundhog]

I voted Motorhead solely because of Lemmy, and even then because of Hawkwind more than Motorhead.

[thesloppy]

I always get the feeling that Motorhead's fandom is 95% manufactured. There seems to be a fuckton of people who deeply identify with Lemmy and/or Motorhead, got Motorhead merch, have watched documentaries about Lemmy, would go to Motorhead when they were in town.....but have never owned any motorhead records and might spend 5 minutes a month passively listening to their music. That said, who am I to say that's not real fandom, or similar bullshit. Plenty of folks like that have probably been to a dozen Motorhead shows, which is more legit appreciation than I give to anybody, it just wrinkles my nose for whatever reason.

[dawgfan]

All the people not voting for Queens of the Stone Age are wrong.

[CrimsonFox]

Beck was in Yardbirds right? I know nothing of him solo

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Beck was in Yardbirds right? I know nothing of him solo

His first Jeff Beck Group record was as good as the first Led Zeppelin record IMO and not terribly dissimilar. Some great work by Rod Stewart singing on that one. Well worth checking out.

[thesloppy]

For all my earlier talk of blues rock that plodding Albert Collins style shit typically played by Beck, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Eric Clapton, etc. does absolutely nothing for me.....there is some crucial tempo line that needs crossing for my enjoyment.