Werewolf CXXXIII - The Dark Knight - MOBSTERS WIN - Page 45

J23 · 06-09-2011, 01:30 PM

That doesn't make sense CF if you've scanned DV, Mckerney and myself. That'd only make 3 mobsters (with tyrith), not the 4 that are listed.

mckerney · 06-09-2011, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J23

If all four mob roles listed are in the game, then we have to have a cunning. If we go for the cunning tonight, we don't have to risk the game on if Tyrith is full of it.

Plus if we vote someone other than Tyrith and J23 the wolves win.

Tyrith · 06-09-2011, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

unless Tyrith IS the cunning.

This game was hard enough with four wolves, much less three.

J23 · 06-09-2011, 01:31 PM

There has to be a cunning if all 4 roles are in the game, and it has to be one of the people you've scanned since there's noone else left.

Narcizo · 06-09-2011, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

The sequel's not going to be the porn parody, CF, sorry.

Boo! Particularly if CF is the first film's version.

J23 · 06-09-2011, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mckerney

Plus if we vote someone other than Tyrith and J23 the wolves win.

If we vote off Tyrith, and he's the brutal, we lose. That would put us at 2-1 and with the nightkill they make it 1-1 and win.

If we go for the cunning today instead, that puts us at 3-1 if we're correct, and still at 2-1 after a nightkill. Then we lynch the brutal and kill off the last wolf, making it 1-0 after his kill.

If we guess wrong on the cunning today or tomorrow, we still lose, so I'm advocating that we go for it today, on the chance that Tyrith is the brutal. It doesn't change anything, except it removes the chance that the brutal costs us the game.

J23 · 06-09-2011, 01:39 PM

Any villager left in the game should be voting for the cunning, and not Tyrith today. Mckerney's pushing for the sure wolf is just furthur proof to me that he's the cunning.

CrimsonFox · 06-09-2011, 01:40 PM

6/1 lynch vote day 1
1 cf - zinto (281)
5 mauboy - packerfanatic (201), mrbug708 (291), darth vilus (360), mckerney (385), tyrith (411)
6 danny - thomkal (302), J23 (412), bhlloy (434), chubby (514), danny (508), mauboy (509)
4 zinto - lathum (321), crimsonfox(348), the jackal (363), dzilla7 (371)
3 bhlloy - narcizo (339), JAG (342), hoopsguy (478)
1 narcizo - abe sargent (389)
1 no lynch - chief rum (391)

6/2/11 lynch vote day 2
6 Bhlloy - Narcizo (626), PackerFan (787), Lathum (895), Darth Vilus (898), Danny (949), mauboy1 (964)
5 Danny - J23 (661), mckerney (683), chubby (707), Thomkal (886), bhlloy (893)
5 J23 - Abe Sargent (726), The Jackal (812), dzilla77 (890), zinto (948), hoopsguy (965)
2 Mauboy1 - Tyrith (772), crimsonfox (838)

Joker's Game day 2
11 Mauboy - narcizo (626), chief rum (722), lathum (753), crimsonfox (777), mrbug708 (795), the jackal (811), bhlloy (912), dzilla77 (926), thomkal (937), hoopsguy (958), abe sargent (961)
7 Chubby - mckerney (663), PackerFan (787), darth vilus (866), Tyrith (876), J23 (945), zinto (948), mauboy (964)
1 No Kill - Chubby (627),
novote - Danny

6/3/11 lynch vote day 3
6 dzilla77 - hoopsguy (1096), zinto (1171), chief rum (1192), lathum (1204), The Jackal (1256), J23 (1262)
4 J23 - danny (1180), thomkal (1210), abe sargent (1215), darth vilus (1270)
3 lathum - tyrith (1186), dzilla77 (1202), chubby (1239)

Joker game day 3
Voted for J23 - danny (1180), thomkal (1210), abe sargent (1215), darth vilus (1270)
Did not vote J23 - dzilla: hoopsguy (1096), zinto (1171), chief rum (1192), lathum (1204), The Jackal (1256), J23 (1262)
lathum : tyrith (1186), dzilla77 (1202), chubby (1239)

lynch vote day 4
7 Zinto - hoopsguy (1500), chubby (1517), mrbug708 (1518), darth vilus (1551), danny (1554), thomkal (1560), CrimsonFox (1579)
5 Thomkal - J23 (1526), mckerney (1533), Tyrith (1537), zinto (1538), abe sargent (1553)
no vote - Chief Rum

Joker game day 4
Kill Lathum - Abe (1330), mckerney (1355), chubby (1450), Tyrith (1462), zinto (1489), hoopsguy (1505), mrbug708 (1518), J23 (1526), darth vilus (1535) thomkal (1557), Crimsonfox (1570)
no text - Chief Rum, Danny

CrimsonFox · 06-09-2011, 01:41 PM

scanned people are now colored vomit

mckerney · 06-09-2011, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J23

If we vote off Tyrith, and he's the brutal, we lose. That would put us at 2-1 and with the nightkill they make it 1-1 and win.

If we go for the cunning today instead, that puts us at 3-1 if we're correct, and still at 2-1 after a nightkill. Then we lynch the brutal and kill off the last wolf, making it 1-0 after his kill.

If we guess wrong on the cunning today or tomorrow, we still lose, so I'm advocating that we go for it today, on the chance that Tyrith is the brutal. It doesn't change anything, except it removes the chance that the brutal costs us the game.

And if we vote off me we (meaning the villagers, not you and Tyrith) lose. Suggesting we don't vote off a known wolf though, classic wolf move. Just classic.

mckerney · 06-09-2011, 01:43 PM

Any villager left in the game should be voting for the known wolf in Tyrith and not fishing for a cunning today. J23's pushing for not voting the sure wolf is just further proof to me that he's the cunning.

J23 · 06-09-2011, 01:45 PM

Mckerney, if we vote off Tyrith, and he's the brutal, do you acknowledge that the village loses? Is my math above in post 2206 flawed?

CrimsonFox · 06-09-2011, 01:47 PM

Day 5

3 Hoopsguy - Tyrith (1701), Chubby (1716), crimsonfox (1811)
5 Chubby - hoopsguy (1718), abe sargent (1834), J23 (1851),darth vilus (1863),mckerney (1873)
1 Darth Vilus - mrbug708 (1795)
1 mrbug708- chief rum (1815)

day 6

2 darth vilus - hoopsguy (1899), mrbug708 (1956)
6 hoopsguy - darth vilus (1906), crimsonfox (1925), tyrith (1943), J23 (1981), abe sargent (2006),mckerney (2020)

CrimsonFox · 06-09-2011, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J23

There has to be a cunning if all 4 roles are in the game, and it has to be one of the people you've scanned since there's noone else left.

ah this is where my logic circuits failed me.
Now I see. If there is a cunning it has to be one of you 3 and not tyrith.

Tyrith · 06-09-2011, 01:51 PM

Yeah, I'm not smart enough to be the cunning wolf. I did get to kill Batman, though. That was pretty sweet.

Tyrith · 06-09-2011, 01:58 PM

Well, I can't stick around all afternoon. It's kind of weird to be rooting to die, but eh, winning is winning.

CrimsonFox · 06-09-2011, 02:00 PM

j23, what was that about autumn adding a mobster?
show me. what page

J23 · 06-09-2011, 02:02 PM

When the rules initially went up, only 3 were listed. If you look at the front page now , there are 4 listed mobsters. It was a change that happened before the game went live.

Autumn · 06-09-2011, 02:03 PM

Gotham Afternoon News

Tyrith - crimsonfox (2167), Tyrith (2172), Mckerney (2174)
Mckerney - J23 (2200)

Nightfall - Tyrith, Mckerney

CrimsonFox · 06-09-2011, 02:05 PM

i see it now. was the chinese guy the one that was added? Thanks for this insight j23.

CrimsonFox · 06-09-2011, 02:06 PM

I have another question j23. What do you think about cops? the "cop" group?

mckerney · 06-09-2011, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J23

Mckerney, if we vote off Tyrith, and he's the brutal, do you acknowledge that the village loses? Is my math above in post 2206 flawed?

Yes, but I think he's bluffing. Do you acknowledge if I am lynched when its revealed I'm a citizen the village loses?

J23 · 06-09-2011, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mckerney

Yes, but I think he's bluffing. Do you acknowledge if I am lynched when its revealed I'm a citizen the village loses?

Yes, and I think if a villager is lynched today or tomorrow we lose. Why not remove the chance that he's bluffing from the equation and go for the cunning today?

CrimsonFox · 06-09-2011, 02:18 PM

actually that question is to everybody. What do you think about the cop group?

J23 · 06-09-2011, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

I have another question j23. What do you think about cops? the "cop" group?

I'm pretty sure Lathum explained that stuff when he was up against Abe in the Joker lynch. They were a few people that didn't know they were cops who had something to do with his bodyguard stuff. I doubt it's relevant any longer now that he is out of the game, but who knows.

CrimsonFox · 06-09-2011, 02:20 PM

so what do cops do and what impact do that have on the game? There are generic cops as well as generic citizens? Do you think a generic cop could be a wolf?

J23 · 06-09-2011, 02:24 PM

I doubt it, but I'm not sure. I'll try to find Lathum's post to quote it.

J23 · 06-09-2011, 02:27 PM

Here you go:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

well. I've been dwelling on this since Friday and unfortunantly I know how this goes. Mob mentality will take over and decide to give Abe one more day to prove his claim, so I suppose I need to come out.

I am Lt Gordon, basically I am a bodyguard. I have three officers on my squad and they protect the target I choose on a rotating basis. The catch is, if one of the officers has been corrupted the target will be killed. I have no knowledge of who the officers actually are, and actually the officers don't even know they are officers.

N1 I guarded NTN Deacon since he had taken some heat early, I thought he would be a good target for a set up kill. N2 I guarded myself, N3 I guarded Hoops since he is a good villager and night kill target.

That is my role and info, it is up to you guys to decide if you want to believe me or take a gamble with Abe.

J23 · 06-09-2011, 02:29 PM

From that decription, I doubt that the cops could be wolves with the mention of corrupt citizens rather than anything to do with a wolf.

CrimsonFox · 06-09-2011, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

well. I've been dwelling on this since Friday and unfortunantly I know how this goes. Mob mentality will take over and decide to give Abe one more day to prove his claim, so I suppose I need to come out.

I am Lt Gordon, basically I am a bodyguard. I have three officers on my squad and they protect the target I choose on a rotating basis. The catch is, if one of the officers has been corrupted the target will be killed. I have no knowledge of who the officers actually are, and actually the officers don't even know they are officers.

N1 I guarded NTN Deacon since he had taken some heat early, I thought he would be a good target for a set up kill. N2 I guarded myself, N3 I guarded Hoops since he is a good villager and night kill target.

That is my role and info, it is up to you guys to decide if you want to believe me or take a gamble with Abe.

found it

CrimsonFox · 06-09-2011, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J23

From that decription, I doubt that the cops could be wolves with the mention of corrupt citizens rather than anything to do with a wolf.

i was thinking actually that a for a cop to be a cunning, that would be perfectly in character for the game. with all the rest of the wolves being "citizens"

Here's what I'm getting at. I know who is a cop and who is a citizen amongst the three of you.

CrimsonFox · 06-09-2011, 02:36 PM

I didn't say because I was a little afraid that if the cops were exposed there was some weird mechanic or that the wolves taking out all the cops it would end the game or something. It didn't really matter really as the people we've gone after the last two days had nothing to do with cop or not.

CrimsonFox · 06-09-2011, 02:37 PM

cops do not know they are cops though is what llathum said.

CrimsonFox · 06-09-2011, 02:40 PM

when i asked autumn about cops and if i should know anything he said i really didn't know anything. Certain people fall into the cop category and certain people fall into the citizen category (and of course certain people fall into the mob category). I don't know anything about cunnings or anything. Nor where they would fall.

CrimsonFox · 06-09-2011, 02:41 PM

so would you like to know who the cops are?

CrimsonFox · 06-09-2011, 02:42 PM

oh let's just do this for now j23, cause I buy what you're saying and really you guys should call this one.

unvote tyrith

J23 · 06-09-2011, 02:53 PM

I would guess that a cop wouldn't be a wolf since we've seen other citizens with corruption. Though after the conversation today, it would take quite a bit to convince me that mckerney isn't a wolf.

CrimsonFox · 06-09-2011, 02:54 PM

so wanna know then? I'm thinking that my stupid theory about wolves hunting cops is just stupid paranoia.

J23 · 06-09-2011, 02:55 PM

Sure, I don't think more information could hurt.

CrimsonFox · 06-09-2011, 02:56 PM

j23 you are a cop

CrimsonFox · 06-09-2011, 02:56 PM

mckerney, you are also a cop.

CrimsonFox · 06-09-2011, 02:56 PM

DV is a citizen.

CrimsonFox · 06-09-2011, 02:57 PM

so my scans told me.

J23 · 06-09-2011, 02:58 PM

Well, crap. It would have been a lot easier if DV was the cop instead of mckerney. Time to try to figure out if Autumn would have the cunning as a cop. I really doubt it honestly.

J23 · 06-09-2011, 03:01 PM

Unvote mckerney
Vote Darth Vilus

I'm going to move my vote for now and think a bit more about this.

CrimsonFox · 06-09-2011, 03:01 PM

that's what i'm sayin.

J23 · 06-09-2011, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

This is Gotham Live

Breaking news tonight from the Narrows. Another mob hit. The victim tonight was an on duty police officer, ambushed by the mob. Again there were no eyewitnesses. Officer "Chief" Rum was found with a bullet in his head in an alleyway. Police say the investigation is ongoing. Officer Rum is another in a long string of mob kills, and the third officer killed this week.

Chief Rum was a Police Officer.

Here was the only cop death so far.

CrimsonFox · 06-09-2011, 03:05 PM

wait a second. that makes 4 cops not 3...

CrimsonFox · 06-09-2011, 03:05 PM

thomkal, chief, j23, mckerney

CrimsonFox · 06-09-2011, 03:05 PM

lathum only knew he had 3

06-09-2011, 01:30 PM	#2201
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	That doesn't make sense CF if you've scanned DV, Mckerney and myself. That'd only make 3 mobsters (with tyrith), not the 4 that are listed.

06-09-2011, 01:31 PM	#2204
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	There has to be a cunning if all 4 roles are in the game, and it has to be one of the people you've scanned since there's noone else left.

06-09-2011, 01:39 PM	#2207
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	Any villager left in the game should be voting for the cunning, and not Tyrith today. Mckerney's pushing for the sure wolf is just furthur proof to me that he's the cunning.

06-09-2011, 01:40 PM	#2208
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	6/1 lynch vote day 1 1 cf - zinto (281) 5 mauboy - packerfanatic (201), mrbug708 (291), darth vilus (360), mckerney (385), tyrith (411) 6 danny - thomkal (302), J23 (412), bhlloy (434), chubby (514), danny (508), mauboy (509) 4 zinto - lathum (321), crimsonfox(348), the jackal (363), dzilla7 (371) 3 bhlloy - narcizo (339), JAG (342), hoopsguy (478) 1 narcizo - abe sargent (389) 1 no lynch - chief rum (391) 6/2/11 lynch vote day 2 6 Bhlloy - Narcizo (626), PackerFan (787), Lathum (895), Darth Vilus (898), Danny (949), mauboy1 (964) 5 Danny - J23 (661), mckerney (683), chubby (707), Thomkal (886), bhlloy (893) 5 J23 - Abe Sargent (726), The Jackal (812), dzilla77 (890), zinto (948), hoopsguy (965) 2 Mauboy1 - Tyrith (772), crimsonfox (838) Joker's Game day 2 11 Mauboy - narcizo (626), chief rum (722), lathum (753), crimsonfox (777), mrbug708 (795), the jackal (811), bhlloy (912), dzilla77 (926), thomkal (937), hoopsguy (958), abe sargent (961) 7 Chubby - mckerney (663), PackerFan (787), darth vilus (866), Tyrith (876), J23 (945), zinto (948), mauboy (964) 1 No Kill - Chubby (627), novote - Danny 6/3/11 lynch vote day 3 6 dzilla77 - hoopsguy (1096), zinto (1171), chief rum (1192), lathum (1204), The Jackal (1256), J23 (1262) 4 J23 - danny (1180), thomkal (1210), abe sargent (1215), darth vilus (1270) 3 lathum - tyrith (1186), dzilla77 (1202), chubby (1239) Joker game day 3 Voted for J23 - danny (1180), thomkal (1210), abe sargent (1215), darth vilus (1270) Did not vote J23 - dzilla: hoopsguy (1096), zinto (1171), chief rum (1192), lathum (1204), The Jackal (1256), J23 (1262) lathum : tyrith (1186), dzilla77 (1202), chubby (1239) lynch vote day 4 7 Zinto - hoopsguy (1500), chubby (1517), mrbug708 (1518), darth vilus (1551), danny (1554), thomkal (1560), CrimsonFox (1579) 5 Thomkal - J23 (1526), mckerney (1533), Tyrith (1537), zinto (1538), abe sargent (1553) no vote - Chief Rum Joker game day 4 Kill Lathum - Abe (1330), mckerney (1355), chubby (1450), Tyrith (1462), zinto (1489), hoopsguy (1505), mrbug708 (1518), J23 (1526), darth vilus (1535) thomkal (1557), Crimsonfox (1570) no text - Chief Rum, Danny

06-09-2011, 01:41 PM	#2209
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	scanned people are now colored vomit

06-09-2011, 01:43 PM	#2211
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Any villager left in the game should be voting for the known wolf in Tyrith and not fishing for a cunning today. J23's pushing for not voting the sure wolf is just further proof to me that he's the cunning.

06-09-2011, 01:45 PM	#2212
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	Mckerney, if we vote off Tyrith, and he's the brutal, do you acknowledge that the village loses? Is my math above in post 2206 flawed?

06-09-2011, 01:47 PM	#2213
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Day 5 3 Hoopsguy - Tyrith (1701), Chubby (1716), crimsonfox (1811) 5 Chubby - hoopsguy (1718), abe sargent (1834), J23 (1851),darth vilus (1863),mckerney (1873) 1 Darth Vilus - mrbug708 (1795) 1 mrbug708- chief rum (1815) day 6 2 darth vilus - hoopsguy (1899), mrbug708 (1956) 6 hoopsguy - darth vilus (1906), crimsonfox (1925), tyrith (1943), J23 (1981), abe sargent (2006),mckerney (2020)

06-09-2011, 01:51 PM	#2215
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Yeah, I'm not smart enough to be the cunning wolf. I did get to kill Batman, though. That was pretty sweet.

06-09-2011, 01:58 PM	#2216
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Well, I can't stick around all afternoon. It's kind of weird to be rooting to die, but eh, winning is winning.

06-09-2011, 02:00 PM	#2217
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	j23, what was that about autumn adding a mobster? show me. what page

06-09-2011, 02:02 PM	#2218
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	When the rules initially went up, only 3 were listed. If you look at the front page now , there are 4 listed mobsters. It was a change that happened before the game went live.

06-09-2011, 02:03 PM	#2219
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Gotham Afternoon News Tyrith - crimsonfox (2167), Tyrith (2172), Mckerney (2174) Mckerney - J23 (2200) Nightfall - Tyrith, Mckerney

06-09-2011, 02:05 PM	#2220
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	i see it now. was the chinese guy the one that was added? Thanks for this insight j23.

06-09-2011, 02:06 PM	#2221
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	I have another question j23. What do you think about cops? the "cop" group?

06-09-2011, 02:18 PM	#2224
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	actually that question is to everybody. What do you think about the cop group?

06-09-2011, 02:20 PM	#2226
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	so what do cops do and what impact do that have on the game? There are generic cops as well as generic citizens? Do you think a generic cop could be a wolf?

06-09-2011, 02:24 PM	#2227
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	I doubt it, but I'm not sure. I'll try to find Lathum's post to quote it.

06-09-2011, 02:29 PM	#2229
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	From that decription, I doubt that the cops could be wolves with the mention of corrupt citizens rather than anything to do with a wolf.

06-09-2011, 02:36 PM	#2232
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	I didn't say because I was a little afraid that if the cops were exposed there was some weird mechanic or that the wolves taking out all the cops it would end the game or something. It didn't really matter really as the people we've gone after the last two days had nothing to do with cop or not.

06-09-2011, 02:37 PM	#2233
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	cops do not know they are cops though is what llathum said.

06-09-2011, 02:40 PM	#2234
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	when i asked autumn about cops and if i should know anything he said i really didn't know anything. Certain people fall into the cop category and certain people fall into the citizen category (and of course certain people fall into the mob category). I don't know anything about cunnings or anything. Nor where they would fall.

06-09-2011, 02:41 PM	#2235
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	so would you like to know who the cops are?

06-09-2011, 02:42 PM	#2236
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	oh let's just do this for now j23, cause I buy what you're saying and really you guys should call this one. unvote tyrith

06-09-2011, 02:53 PM	#2237
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	I would guess that a cop wouldn't be a wolf since we've seen other citizens with corruption. Though after the conversation today, it would take quite a bit to convince me that mckerney isn't a wolf.

06-09-2011, 02:54 PM	#2238
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	so wanna know then? I'm thinking that my stupid theory about wolves hunting cops is just stupid paranoia.

06-09-2011, 02:55 PM	#2239
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	Sure, I don't think more information could hurt.

06-09-2011, 02:56 PM	#2240
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	j23 you are a cop

06-09-2011, 02:56 PM	#2241
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	mckerney, you are also a cop.

06-09-2011, 02:56 PM	#2242
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	DV is a citizen.