The Official 13-14 NHL Regular season thread - Page 4

Honolulu_Blue · 11-27-2013, 09:56 AM

This whole CBC getting screwed annoys me.

Suburban Rhythm · 11-27-2013, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

This whole CBC getting screwed annoys me.

Curious what this means for Cherry.

If I read everything right, CBC has HNIC for 4 more years, but Rogers is controlling all aspects of it?

I vote they replace him with Rob Ford.

bbor · 11-27-2013, 12:15 PM

Rogers is lending the programing to the cbc.All cbc "HNIC" crews are part of Rogers now.CBC could not afford to renew the HNIC deal,this is the only way they could have kept the programing.

What does CBC get out of it? A million viewers every Saturday night who will be subjected to the promos for other shows on the network,and they don't have to spend money on filling 4 hours of programing that would more than likely not get them even close to the million plus viewers they had during HNIC.

Suburban Rhythm · 11-28-2013, 07:12 AM

Really glad I didn't 'DaddyTorgo' that Leafs-Pens game last night in the 2nd period.

Fidatelo · 11-28-2013, 08:48 AM

I don't really care about the CBC losing control of HNIC, but I am disappointed that it's Sportsnet gaining that control and not TSN. TSN telecasts are on a completely different level than Sportsnet and unless Sportsnet can raise their game quick the quality drop between this year and next is going to be substantial.

The other disappointment for me is that CBC and TSN are both part of most 'basic' cable packages, whereas Sportsnet is usually an add-on. For me to watch games outside of CBC next year I'll be looking at tacking another $6/month onto my cable bill.

DaddyTorgo · 11-28-2013, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

Really glad I didn't 'DaddyTorgo' that Leafs-Pens game last night in the 2nd period.

On the flip side, I'm glad I started to FF through the Bruins-Red Wings game after the first 4 goals. Saved me a bunch of time.

Logan · 12-04-2013, 09:15 AM

Lundqvist extension is done, 7 years at about $8.2MM AAV from what I've seen.

A bit more than I was expecting but not much way around it.

Honolulu_Blue · 12-04-2013, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Lundqvist extension is done, 7 years at about $8.2MM AAV from what I've seen.

A bit more than I was expecting but not much way around it.

Sounds about right. It's pretty much what Rask got, no? I figured Lundqvist's money would be very similar.

Honolulu_Blue · 12-04-2013, 09:21 AM

The Wings will be without both Datsyuk and Zetterberg for at least the next three games. Datsyuk is suffering from concussion like symptoms after getting elbowed in the head by Cowen and his missed the last few games. Zetterberg has a herniated disc in his back and will be out a minimum of two weeks.

Suburban Rhythm · 12-04-2013, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Lundqvist extension is done, 7 years at about $8.2MM AAV from what I've seen.

A bit more than I was expecting but not much way around it.

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Sounds about right. It's pretty much what Rask got, no? I figured Lundqvist's money would be very similar.

Best post on HF, referencing Cam Talbot's hot start to his Rangers career-

"That's alot of $$$ for a backup"

Dreger and others reporting $8.5MM, but at that point what's the difference?

There was no way NY wasn't signing him, although he'll be 39 at the end of that deal. But no major injury concerns.

Logan · 12-04-2013, 10:02 AM

Yeah I have no problem with it, even if the cap wasn't going to increase. People who were against bringing him back wanted the money spent on offense, as if premium scorers constantly hit FA. Not to mention they would spend at least $4MM on a goalie anyway, so you're talking about the difference between your normal 3rd liner salary and the overpaid Clarksons/Clowes of the world. Give me Hank.

Chief Rum · 12-04-2013, 10:38 AM

If you want two points from the Ducks, just manage to get them to a shootout. They are abysmal there.

Suburban Rhythm · 12-04-2013, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Yeah I have no problem with it, even if the cap wasn't going to increase. People who were against bringing him back wanted the money spent on offense, as if premium scorers constantly hit FA. Not to mention they would spend at least $4MM on a goalie anyway, so you're talking about the difference between your normal 3rd liner salary and the overpaid Clarksons/Clowes of the world. Give me Hank.

And he was already around $7MM, no? So if the cap only goes up $1.5M, they've broken even.

Plus, Richards HAS to be a buyout this summer, right?

Logan · 12-04-2013, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

And he was already around $7MM, no? So if the cap only goes up $1.5M, they've broken even.

Plus, Richards HAS to be a buyout this summer, right?

Yes to both.

JonInMiddleGA · 12-07-2013, 07:38 PM

Umm ... all hell breaking loose in Boston tonight?

DaddyTorgo · 12-07-2013, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Umm ... all hell breaking loose in Boston tonight?

I'm DVR-ing it so I can watch the BC-UNH game first, but based on what you've just said, I'm looking forward to it. Just extended the end time by an extra half hour

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PurdueBrad · 12-07-2013, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Umm ... all hell breaking loose in Boston tonight?

<--- Pens fan here.

Yeah, there is all hell breaking loose. I would guess lengthy suspensions for players from both teams.

Spoiler

Suburban Rhythm · 12-07-2013, 08:12 PM

Shawn Thornton in recent interview. I usually save the word fraud to deride Claude Giroux, but no better word for Thornton.

DaddyTorgo · 12-07-2013, 08:50 PM

Neal should be out of this fucking game too - how you only get 2 minutes for kneeing a dude in the head intentionally is beyond me.

Also - you can clearly see on the replay that Orpik goes head-hunting - just as Neal went head-hunting.

As much as I love Orpik (BC boy represent), he fucking got what he deserved. Bush league play by Thornton yes, but bush league hit by Orpik in the first place.

Ryan S · 12-08-2013, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

As much as I love Orpik (BC boy represent), he fucking got what he deserved. Bush league play by Thornton yes, but bush league hit by Orpik in the first place.

Seriously?

Dr. Sak · 12-08-2013, 08:21 AM

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Seriously?

My thoughts exactly...

The Jackal · 12-08-2013, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

I usually save the word fraud to deride Claude Giroux

Hey now...

Solecismic · 12-08-2013, 09:03 AM

This "police themselves" mantra is getting comical.

Ban fighting, get better helmets, absorb the temporary loss of goon-fans - it's not as if salaries don't indicate the game is moderately healthy and can handle the loss.

claphamsa · 12-08-2013, 09:04 AM

Just watched it on TSN... I think what neal did was worse, but the bad bad injury to Orpik is going to play more for suspensions.

were I in charge, they would both get the chance to beg for forgiveness next training camp.

DaddyTorgo · 12-08-2013, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryan S

Seriously?

He launches his shoulder at Erikson's head, so yes.

And believe me, 99.9% of the time I back my fellow Maroon-n-Gold alum to the hilt, but that was a bad hit.

Horrible hit on Erikson too, who is just coming off a concussion this season. And double-especially when you consider the Cooke/Savard history.

DaddyTorgo · 12-08-2013, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

This "police themselves" mantra is getting comical.

Ban fighting, get better helmets, absorb the temporary loss of goon-fans - it's not as if salaries don't indicate the game is moderately healthy and can handle the loss.

I'm actually going with the commentators on this one. If there had (rightly) been a penalty called, or if Orpik had accepted the fight with Thornton earlier then it would have been settled. The fact that he skated away from it was the issue.

DaddyTorgo · 12-08-2013, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

Just watched it on TSN... I think what neal did was worse, but the bad bad injury to Orpik is going to play more for suspensions.

were I in charge, they would both get the chance to beg for forgiveness next training camp.

Erikson's got a concussion. Orpik's got a concussion.

I'd say "an eye for an eye" operated pretty well here.

Pittsburgh should count themselves lucky Thornton didn't go after Neal IMO.

edit: I'm obviously coming at this from an emotionally-charged angle.

Solecismic · 12-08-2013, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I'm actually going with the commentators on this one. If there had (rightly) been a penalty called, or if Orpik had accepted the fight with Thornton earlier then it would have been settled. The fact that he skated away from it was the issue.

And what does that solve?

Why should the players, in the emotion of the moment, decide whether Orpik's original hit was suspension-worthy?

Or do you get away with dangerous, outside-the-lines hits if you're good enough at fighting to handle a Thornton assault?

This "police themselves" mentality doesn't hold up to logic. What we do know is that there are serious life-altering issues both for those who fight and for those who continue to accept wearing a helmet that doesn't protect them very well.

It was only 17 years ago that the last helmet-less player retired. People said that would ruin the game. Anyone still making that argument?

I think we need an NFL-like campaign to remove dangerous hits from the game. Corollary being NFL-like penalties for taking a swing at someone.

The NFL is doing just fine without linemen occasionally removing their helmets and engaging in a fist-fight.

DaddyTorgo · 12-08-2013, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

The NFL is doing just fine without linemen occasionally removing their helmets and engaging in a fist-fight.

We already have that - it's called Sumo wrestling.

As an aside - think about that for a minute, wouldn't it be amusing (lineman fights)?

Solecismic · 12-08-2013, 10:27 AM

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As an aside - think about that for a minute, wouldn't it be amusing (lineman fights)?

With the size and speed and strength training of some of those guys, plus the ability to use their feet as a proper anchor for leverage?

Um... we'd be dealing with more than a few deaths every year. Not amusing.

It's long past the time that fighting in the NHL makes sense. It's an anachronism from the feudal days of hockey. I think it has held back the sport for decades.

DaddyTorgo · 12-08-2013, 10:32 AM

FWIW I'm not one of those guys who's all "fighting is integral to hockey...yay fighting!" or anything.

I could take it or leave it. Getting rid of it wouldn't affect my enjoyment of the game. I enjoy college hockey just as much for example, and they don't let them fight there.

Suburban Rhythm · 12-08-2013, 11:48 AM

Anyone who thinks the Orpik hit was bad...I don't know what to tell you. Please give up watching hockey. Initial point of contact is the chest. Unfortunate injury, but if you can't make that hit, take out all hitting.

If Eriksson is at risk for another concussion, keep him off the ice. Not Orpik's responsibility.

Neal's knee will get him suspended. Totally 'accidental on purpose'. But if you can't separate borderline dirty stuff in game play from someone pulling garbage after skating 80 feet down the ice, you need to re-evaluate.

Neal's knee is no different than Chara's hit on MaxPac a few years back. There's gameplay action, then there is Shawn Thornton, Marty McSorley, Todd Bertuzzi.

And the "Orpik didn't oblige Thornton" bull shit?? How pathetic. I find Marchand a rat-faced bitch. I asked him to stab himself with his own skate, but he won't. So, the knee to the head should suffice. Seems logical, right?

I'll repeat. Thornton is a FRAUD. Talk about fake. One week ago, saying he's honorable. BULLSHIT. If the thought didn't cross his mind that he shouldn't jump a guy while he skated the length of the ice, I'm not sure how he ties his own skates. That's not a "heat of the moment" reaction...there was 8 seconds in between.

Suburban Rhythm · 12-08-2013, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

Hey now...

Johnny93g · 12-08-2013, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

Anyone who thinks the Orpik hit was bad...I don't know what to tell you. Please give up watching hockey. Initial point of contact is the chest. Unfortunate injury, but if you can't make that hit, take out all hitting.

If Eriksson is at risk for another concussion, keep him off the ice. Not Orpik's responsibility.

Neal's knee will get him suspended. Totally 'accidental on purpose'. But if you can't separate borderline dirty stuff in game play from someone pulling garbage after skating 80 feet down the ice, you need to re-evaluate.

Neal's knee is no different than Chara's hit on MaxPac a few years back. There's gameplay action, then there is Shawn Thornton, Marty McSorley, Todd Bertuzzi.

And the "Orpik didn't oblige Thornton" bull shit?? How pathetic. I find Marchand a rat-faced bitch. I asked him to stab himself with his own skate, but he won't. So, the knee to the head should suffice. Seems logical, right?

I'll repeat. Thornton is a FRAUD. Talk about fake. One week ago, saying he's honorable. BULLSHIT. If the thought didn't cross his mind that he shouldn't jump a guy while he skated the length of the ice, I'm not sure how he ties his own skates. That's not a "heat of the moment" reaction...there was 8 seconds in between.

This....well said

DaddyTorgo · 12-08-2013, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

Anyone who thinks the Orpik hit was bad...I don't know what to tell you. Please give up watching hockey. Initial point of contact is the chest. Unfortunate injury, but if you can't make that hit, take out all hitting.

If Eriksson is at risk for another concussion, keep him off the ice. Not Orpik's responsibility.

Neal's knee will get him suspended. Totally 'accidental on purpose'. But if you can't separate borderline dirty stuff in game play from someone pulling garbage after skating 80 feet down the ice, you need to re-evaluate.

Neal's knee is no different than Chara's hit on MaxPac a few years back. There's gameplay action, then there is Shawn Thornton, Marty McSorley, Todd Bertuzzi.

And the "Orpik didn't oblige Thornton" bull shit?? How pathetic. I find Marchand a rat-faced bitch. I asked him to stab himself with his own skate, but he won't. So, the knee to the head should suffice. Seems logical, right?

I'll repeat. Thornton is a FRAUD. Talk about fake. One week ago, saying he's honorable. BULLSHIT. If the thought didn't cross his mind that he shouldn't jump a guy while he skated the length of the ice, I'm not sure how he ties his own skates. That's not a "heat of the moment" reaction...there was 8 seconds in between.

BS - watch the replay. It looked like a clean, but hard hit to me in real-time, but in replay you can see Orpik clearly lowers his shoulder at Erikson's head.

Dr. Sak · 12-08-2013, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

BS - watch the replay. It looked like a clean, but hard hit to me in real-time, but in replay you can see Orpik clearly lowers his shoulder at Erikson's head.

It's clean...how can you blame Orpik when Eriksson lowers his head/shoulders to play the puck whenever Orpik is already committed to that angle? And let's be real here...if he hit his head at all...it's a slight brush to the chin.

Suburban Rhythm · 12-09-2013, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

BS - watch the replay. It looked like a clean, but hard hit to me in real-time, but in replay you can see Orpik clearly lowers his shoulder at Erikson's head.

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

It's clean...how can you blame Orpik when Eriksson lowers his head/shoulders to play the puck whenever Orpik is already committed to that angle? And let's be real here...if he hit his head at all...it's a slight brush to the chin.

The impact is to Erikkson's shoulder/chest. If you want to be precise, he hits Orpik with his head as it snaps forward from the impact of the hit.

Give Erikkson 2 minutes unsportsmanlike for the headbutt

Suburban Rhythm · 12-09-2013, 01:36 PM

5 games for Jimmy Neal

Thankfully he didn't break his kneecap on Marchand's beak.

Dr. Sak · 12-09-2013, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

5 games for Jimmy Neal

Thankfully he didn't break his kneecap on Marchand's beak.

Suspensions:

James Neal: 3
Matt Cooke: 4

Suburban Rhythm · 12-09-2013, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

Suspensions:

James Neal: 3
Matt Cooke: 4

I can only assume these came in Dallas, and Vancouver/Washington/Minnesota, respectively. The Penguins get away with everything.

Grover · 12-10-2013, 08:45 PM

Classy tribute to Iginla from Calgary. Incredible response from the crowd.

DaddyTorgo · 12-10-2013, 09:13 PM

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Classy tribute to Iginla from Calgary. Incredible response from the crowd.

Classy place that Calgary.

DaddyTorgo · 12-10-2013, 10:21 PM

Amusing how NESN calls the between-period interviews: "Jamie Erdhal will go one on one with ______."

Maybe it's just me, but that sounds sexual.

RomaGoth · 12-11-2013, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

5 games for Jimmy Neal

Thankfully he didn't break his kneecap on Marchand's beak.

I still trade for him every time I play EHM. The AI undervalues him immensely.

RomaGoth · 12-11-2013, 09:38 AM

Wow the Red Wings can't win a shoot out to save their life. They are 0-5 after last night. Babcock's love affair with Cleary and Quincey is a mystery to me; it is eerily similar to Bettman/Crosby. Ewwww...

Suburban Rhythm · 12-11-2013, 10:28 AM

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I still trade for him every time I play EHM. The AI undervalues him immensely.

The AI was probably designed by Joe Nieuwendyk.

Still one of the great recent fleecings. Alex Goligoski IS Matt Niskanen...at 3X the salary.

Suburban Rhythm · 12-11-2013, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

Wow the Red Wings can't win a shoot out to save their life. They are 0-5 after last night. Babcock's love affair with Cleary and Quincey is a mystery to me; it is eerily similar to Bettman/Crosby. Ewwww...

DOLA

It's funny how all (most) teams hate their coaching.

There is a large contingent of Penguins fans who hate Bylsma. And he has his man crushes too - Craig Adams, Deryk Engelland. But how many other teams would kill to have Bylsma or Babcock?

RomaGoth · 12-11-2013, 10:41 AM

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DOLA

It's funny how all (most) teams hate their coaching.

There is a large contingent of Penguins fans who hate Bylsma. And he has his man crushes too - Craig Adams, Deryk Engelland. But how many other teams would kill to have Bylsma or Babcock?

Oh I don't hate our coach, I happen to believe he is one of the top 2-3 coaches in hockey right now. But his fascination with playing Dan Cleary 15 minutes a game on the top 2 lines is mystifying.

RomaGoth · 12-13-2013, 12:35 PM

So I guess the hockey gods haven't yet finished the parade of injuries for the Wings. We can now add Jimmy Howard to the list, who is out for a month with a sprained knee. Already without Zetterberg, Helm, Weiss, and DeKeyser.

Ugh.

DaddyTorgo · 12-13-2013, 01:23 PM

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So I guess the hockey gods haven't yet finished the parade of injuries for the Wings. We can now add Jimmy Howard to the list, who is out for a month with a sprained knee. Already without Zetterberg, Helm, Weiss, and DeKeyser.

Ugh.

Join the club.

11-27-2013, 09:56 AM	#151
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11-27-2013, 12:15 PM	#153
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	Rogers is lending the programing to the cbc.All cbc "HNIC" crews are part of Rogers now.CBC could not afford to renew the HNIC deal,this is the only way they could have kept the programing. What does CBC get out of it? A million viewers every Saturday night who will be subjected to the promos for other shows on the network,and they don't have to spend money on filling 4 hours of programing that would more than likely not get them even close to the million plus viewers they had during HNIC. __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

11-28-2013, 07:12 AM	#154
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11-28-2013, 08:48 AM	#155
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	I don't really care about the CBC losing control of HNIC, but I am disappointed that it's Sportsnet gaining that control and not TSN. TSN telecasts are on a completely different level than Sportsnet and unless Sportsnet can raise their game quick the quality drop between this year and next is going to be substantial. The other disappointment for me is that CBC and TSN are both part of most 'basic' cable packages, whereas Sportsnet is usually an add-on. For me to watch games outside of CBC next year I'll be looking at tacking another $6/month onto my cable bill. __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

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Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	The Wings will be without both Datsyuk and Zetterberg for at least the next three games. Datsyuk is suffering from concussion like symptoms after getting elbowed in the head by Cowen and his missed the last few games. Zetterberg has a herniated disc in his back and will be out a minimum of two weeks. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

12-04-2013, 09:15 AM	#157
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Lundqvist extension is done, 7 years at about $8.2MM AAV from what I've seen. A bit more than I was expecting but not much way around it.

12-04-2013, 10:02 AM	#161
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Yeah I have no problem with it, even if the cap wasn't going to increase. People who were against bringing him back wanted the money spent on offense, as if premium scorers constantly hit FA. Not to mention they would spend at least $4MM on a goalie anyway, so you're talking about the difference between your normal 3rd liner salary and the overpaid Clarksons/Clowes of the world. Give me Hank.

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12-07-2013, 08:50 PM	#169
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Neal should be out of this fucking game too - how you only get 2 minutes for kneeing a dude in the head intentionally is beyond me. Also - you can clearly see on the replay that Orpik goes head-hunting - just as Neal went head-hunting. As much as I love Orpik (BC boy represent), he fucking got what he deserved. Bush league play by Thornton yes, but bush league hit by Orpik in the first place. Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 12-07-2013 at 09:04 PM.

12-08-2013, 09:03 AM	#173
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	This "police themselves" mantra is getting comical. Ban fighting, get better helmets, absorb the temporary loss of goon-fans - it's not as if salaries don't indicate the game is moderately healthy and can handle the loss.

12-08-2013, 09:04 AM	#174
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	Just watched it on TSN... I think what neal did was worse, but the bad bad injury to Orpik is going to play more for suspensions. were I in charge, they would both get the chance to beg for forgiveness next training camp. __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

12-08-2013, 10:32 AM	#181
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	FWIW I'm not one of those guys who's all "fighting is integral to hockey...yay fighting!" or anything. I could take it or leave it. Getting rid of it wouldn't affect my enjoyment of the game. I enjoy college hockey just as much for example, and they don't let them fight there.

12-08-2013, 11:48 AM	#182
Suburban Rhythm Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pittsburgh	Anyone who thinks the Orpik hit was bad...I don't know what to tell you. Please give up watching hockey. Initial point of contact is the chest. Unfortunate injury, but if you can't make that hit, take out all hitting. If Eriksson is at risk for another concussion, keep him off the ice. Not Orpik's responsibility. Neal's knee will get him suspended. Totally 'accidental on purpose'. But if you can't separate borderline dirty stuff in game play from someone pulling garbage after skating 80 feet down the ice, you need to re-evaluate. Neal's knee is no different than Chara's hit on MaxPac a few years back. There's gameplay action, then there is Shawn Thornton, Marty McSorley, Todd Bertuzzi. And the "Orpik didn't oblige Thornton" bull shit?? How pathetic. I find Marchand a rat-faced bitch. I asked him to stab himself with his own skate, but he won't. So, the knee to the head should suffice. Seems logical, right? I'll repeat. Thornton is a FRAUD. Talk about fake. One week ago, saying he's honorable. BULLSHIT. If the thought didn't cross his mind that he shouldn't jump a guy while he skated the length of the ice, I'm not sure how he ties his own skates. That's not a "heat of the moment" reaction...there was 8 seconds in between. __________________ "Do you guys play fast tempos with odd time signatures?" "Yeah" "Cool!!"

12-09-2013, 01:36 PM	#188
Suburban Rhythm Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pittsburgh	5 games for Jimmy Neal Thankfully he didn't break his kneecap on Marchand's beak. __________________ "Do you guys play fast tempos with odd time signatures?" "Yeah" "Cool!!"

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12-10-2013, 10:21 PM	#193
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