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KWhit · 09-08-2005, 02:38 PM

For reference:

Long examination Day Only The doctor may choose to examine any crew member. If the crew member is a survivor, the doctor will learn this. If the crew member is infected, but has not yet become a spawn, the doctor will learn this, and will cure the crew member. If the crew member is a spawn the doctor will have a chance to cure the crew member. There is also a chance that the doctor and/or crew member will die or that the doctor will become infected.

RealDeal · 09-08-2005, 02:38 PM

Looking at the rules, I can't figure out what has happened to RA to cause him to go into a coma. If he was spawn, and Vince tried to fix him, then it should either succeed or RA should die.

Blade6119 · 09-08-2005, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Actually he WILL need water if you want him to live. Jeez, the man's had a rough day and then you want to cause him to shrivel up and die!

Terry Schiavo all over again

hoopsguy · 09-08-2005, 02:38 PM

We can lynch the vegetable

I'm kidding. But I am interested in what Vince learned about Raiders during the scan - prior to the coma.

KWhit · 09-08-2005, 02:39 PM

I assume it was a long exam (but it could be short).

This is the part that worries me: There is also a chance that the doctor and/or crew member will die or that the doctor will become infected.

So RA and Vince could both be spawns now.

KWhit · 09-08-2005, 02:39 PM

Can we lynch more than one person per day?

RealDeal · 09-08-2005, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

i think im the only one who is super suspicious of vince...i metioned it yesterday, but it just seems sketchy...for him to get attacked in the brig is quite interesting, and he said 2 or 3 which means he thinks everyone else in the brig was bad...i dont buy we put 4 in and 3 were spawn....everybody else seems to trust him, but i dont....

Vote Vince for now

I scanned Vince today. My reading of the doctor short exam explanation is that it does not give false reads. If he had been spawn, I would have died, if he had been spawnling I would have had a chance to cure him, but the accuracy of my read is not subject to chance.

Vince came up clean on my scan. Voting for the doctor with no evidence on the same day he got a clean scan makes absolutely no sense to me.

pennywisesb · 09-08-2005, 02:43 PM

I still think RA and Dubb are both Spawns. I'm VERY interested in what Vince's scan turns up.

RealDeal · 09-08-2005, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

I assume it was a long exam (but it could be short).

This is the part that worries me: There is also a chance that the doctor and/or crew member will die or that the doctor will become infected.

So RA and Vince could both be spawns now.

The only chance that Vince was infected is if RA was spawn. If RA was spawnling, then Vince would cure him no problems, according to the description. I think we have to assume that RA was spawn. If Vince was infected, hopefully he can tell us, so we can figure out what to do about it.

What I don't understand is RA being in a coma. The rules say nothing about that. It appears that the person was either supposed to live or die. The coma confuses me.

Barkeep49 · 09-08-2005, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Can we lynch more than one person per day?

No. One person per day you blood thirsty fiend. It's amazing with officers like these that this crew has any class

Real is correct that a doctor's short exam cannot give a false report.

saldana · 09-08-2005, 02:52 PM

only thing i can think of is that the coma is a precursor to RA's dying...its unfortunate for us that vince is not around for the rest of the night

i wonder if the coma would count as "wounded status", in which case, AE could promote pennywise to medic and he could cure RA

Raiders Army · 09-08-2005, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I say we jettison the body. He's in a coma. He won't be waking, he won't be needing water.

That's bullshit pal. I didn't tell anyone about your herpes!

KWhit · 09-08-2005, 02:53 PM

I think it is very possible for Dubb to be a spawn now. He would be a prime target for them since he is basically guaranteed to be on every water mission and could easily sabotage them. And since the first one, we've had pretty bad luck with them.

I'm beginning to get suspicious of Vince too.

Poli · 09-08-2005, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Actually he WILL need water if you want him to live. Jeez, the man's had a rough day and then you want to cause him to shrivel up and die!

Times are tough. Survival of the fittest.

Schmidty · 09-08-2005, 02:54 PM

I don't know what to think anymore.

pennywisesb · 09-08-2005, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

only thing i can think of is that the coma is a precursor to RA's dying...its unfortunate for us that vince is not around for the rest of the night

i wonder if the coma would count as "wounded status", in which case, AE could promote pennywise to medic and he could cure RA

Here's the deal so far as far as I see it. RA or Vince is definately spawn. Now, we don't know if RA is now in a coma because he is a spawn and the exam did this to him, or if Vince was spawn and whatever he did, put RA into his coma. I would love a promotion to Medic, though I don't know about healing RA until we decide which option seems most likely.

KWhit · 09-08-2005, 02:57 PM

If RealDeal is to be believed, then Vince is okay.

If Vince is okay, then some (maybe 2, maybe 3) of the others in the brig last night are spawns. I guess that's the direction we should go, but I'm not sure.

pennywisesb · 09-08-2005, 02:57 PM

If Vince was not spawn, and he did an inspection on RA (who was spawn), Vince would die right? Or am I way off here?

Poli · 09-08-2005, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

That's bullshit pal. I didn't tell anyone about your herpes!

I refer to those as love warts. We are sailors, after all.

KWhit · 09-08-2005, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pennywisesb

Here's the deal so far as far as I see it. RA or Vince is definately spawn.

Right. And if Vince is spawn, then RealDeal is also spawn since he cleared Vince earlier today.

KWhit · 09-08-2005, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pennywisesb

If Vince was not spawn, and he did an inspection on RA (who was spawn), Vince would die right? Or am I way off here?

Long examination Day Only The doctor may choose to examine any crew member. If the crew member is a survivor, the doctor will learn this. If the crew member is infected, but has not yet become a spawn, the doctor will learn this, and will cure the crew member. If the crew member is a spawn the doctor will have a chance to cure the crew member. There is also a chance that the doctor and/or crew member will die or that the doctor will become infected.

Barkeep49 · 09-08-2005, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

only thing i can think of is that the coma is a precursor to RA's dying...its unfortunate for us that vince is not around for the rest of the night

i wonder if the coma would count as "wounded status", in which case, AE could promote pennywise to medic and he could cure RA

The coma is not the same as wounded.

RealDeal · 09-08-2005, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pennywisesb

If Vince was not spawn, and he did an inspection on RA (who was spawn), Vince would die right? Or am I way off here?

No, a short exam means automatic death for the scanner and the target if the target is a spawn.

Vince did a long exam. He has a chance of curing the spawn, a chance of killing the spawn, and a chance of being infected.

Poli · 09-08-2005, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

only thing i can think of is that the coma is a precursor to RA's dying...its unfortunate for us that vince is not around for the rest of the night

i wonder if the coma would count as "wounded status", in which case, AE could promote pennywise to medic and he could cure RA

Despite being a captain, I somehow can't promote anyway. Major flaw.

Poli · 09-08-2005, 03:00 PM

Vince needs to clear the air.

Schmidty · 09-08-2005, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Right. And if Vince is spawn, then RealDeal is also spawn since he cleared Vince earlier today.

Agreed. Now where does that leave us? Who do we vote for? Obviously the choice comes down to either Vince or Pennywise. If we vote Vince and he's spawn, then RealDeal is and we hopefully get the win within a day or two. BUT, if Vince isn't the spawn, then we lose the Doctor, which is huge.

pennywisesb · 09-08-2005, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

Agreed. Now where does that leave us? Who do we vote for? Obviously the choice comes down to either Vince or Pennywise. If we vote Vince and he's spawn, then RealDeal is and we hopefully get the win within a day or two. BUT, if Vince isn't the spawn, then we lose the Doctor, which is huge.

Why are we still voting for me? I think we've agreed that either RA or Vince is spawn.

pennywisesb · 09-08-2005, 03:05 PM

Also, I think I can be promoted to medic which would be very valuable to the grew after liftoff.

Also, I see one of two options here as far as spawn goes: either vince and realdeal are the spawn and Vince was lying about the attack, or RA and Dubb are spawn and Vince was telling the truth.

KWhit · 09-08-2005, 03:06 PM

Or you are spawn.

hoopsguy · 09-08-2005, 03:09 PM

Barkeep, are there roles in this game that have not been published? Or is the list in post #1 the sum total of all roles in the game?

Schmidty · 09-08-2005, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pennywisesb

Also, I think I can be promoted to medic which would be very valuable to the grew after liftoff.

Also, I see one of two options here as far as spawn goes: either vince and realdeal are the spawn and Vince was lying about the attack, or RA and Dubb are spawn and Vince was telling the truth.

You forgot one other option: RA and you are spawn.

RealDeal · 09-08-2005, 03:10 PM

I think RA was spawn, considering the strange result of Vince's long exam, but we need to know the result of Vince's exam:

1. Was RA cured? If not, then we should let him die. If he was cured, then it would be nice to heal him.

2. Was Vince infected? If so, then we definitely need to heal him.

3. Considering that RA was likely spawn, then I think we should vote for Dubb, since RA volunteered to scan him. That scan, which happened before RA was examed by Vince, can't be trusted.

Barkeep49 · 09-08-2005, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Barkeep, are there roles in this game that have not been published? Or is the list in post #1 the sum total of all roles in the game?

No that tome covers all the roles

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hoopsguy · 09-08-2005, 03:13 PM

Also, if Marc was the Queen or the Hive mind we would have had those revealed when he was lynched, correct? The fact that those were not revealed as his role would seem to indicate that there are at least those two spawn roles still out there and have been from the outset without changes in who holds them.

pennywisesb · 09-08-2005, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

You forgot one other option: RA and you are spawn.

I guess being the first one to out RA means I'm spawn right? Come on. Why wouldn't I put pressure on Vince then if I was a fellow spawn with RA?

hoopsguy · 09-08-2005, 03:14 PM

If there are no hidden roles then I'm thinking RA was spawn and is now in the process of being cured. I'm guessing the cure takes a day to process. This is total guesswork on my part, but I can't come up with another reason for him to be in a coma.

pennywisesb · 09-08-2005, 03:15 PM

There's no point for a one for one exchange right now for the spawn. I'm not a spawn.

hoopsguy · 09-08-2005, 03:16 PM

Subject to change after hearing from Vince:
Vote Dub

Schmidty · 09-08-2005, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pennywisesb

I guess being the first one to out RA means I'm spawn right? Come on. Why wouldn't I put pressure on Vince then if I was a fellow spawn with RA?

To keep from pointing fingers at people that could hurt you more? I don't know.

All I know is that Vince, who you claim is clean, is voting for you. Just seems odd.

Raiders Army · 09-08-2005, 03:17 PM

It's not a tumaaaaa!!!

I hate not being able to talk.

KWhit · 09-08-2005, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

If there are no hidden roles then I'm thinking RA was spawn and is now in the process of being cured. I'm guessing the cure takes a day to process. This is total guesswork on my part, but I can't come up with another reason for him to be in a coma.

Hmmm... Maybe, but Vince cured himself anddidn't go into a coma, right?

Poli · 09-08-2005, 03:18 PM

Quiet, sick boy.

pennywisesb · 09-08-2005, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

To keep from pointing fingers at people that could hurt you more? I don't know.

All I know is that Vince, who you claim is clean, is voting for you. Just seems odd.

I've never claimed Vince is clean. I'm suspicious of him, but RA is #1 on my list since he was in the brig and Vince is claiming he was attacked (so basically I'm giving Vince the benefit of the doubt until we hear how his scan of RA went).

KWhit · 09-08-2005, 03:20 PM

I'm currently looking at (in no particular order) Dubb, Vince, and pennywiseb. I figure RA is out of commission right now and not a threat. Who knows, maybe barkeep will explain what's going on when he has RA wake up (if he ever does).

I don't know what to think at this point.

RealDeal · 09-08-2005, 03:24 PM

Since RA is not a threat right now, and since RA "scanned" Dubb, I vote:

vote Dubb

This is definitely subject to change when I hear from Vince.

pennywisesb · 09-08-2005, 03:28 PM

Until Vince comes back and gives us an update, I'm very suspicious of RA and Dubb for the reasons I've previously posted. Since RA looks as though he's out of commission, I'm going to Vote Dubb for the time being. Upon further info from Vince I'm willing to reconsider.

pennywisesb · 09-08-2005, 03:30 PM

Barkeep who is able to promote me to a medic if thats an option for later on since Ardent said he couldn't?

hoopsguy · 09-08-2005, 03:30 PM

Kwhit, I'm guessing the difference was that Vince was infected and in spawnling status. Raiders was full-blown spawn and thus has a different recovery cycle.

Again, this is speculation with absolutely zero hard information. But until I hear something firm from Vince (or someone convinces me this theory is just plain stupid) this is how I'm choosing to interpret the information we have been presented.

Schmidty · 09-08-2005, 03:32 PM

I guess I understand the dubb votes, but I don't understand why Vince saying something could change your minds. What could he say? If he was spawn, of course he wouldn't say anything.

Also, everyone is saying Dubb is suspect since he was in the brig last night, but so was Pennywise. Why is he getting off? This reminds me of the Marc Vaughn thing when I was almost lynched for no reason.

Poli · 09-08-2005, 03:37 PM

This looks like another Ardent coin toss to me.

Was it one if by land, two if by sea, or the other way around

09-08-2005, 02:43 PM	#808
pennywisesb College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California	I still think RA and Dubb are both Spawns. I'm VERY interested in what Vince's scan turns up. __________________ Myspace Profile

09-08-2005, 02:54 PM	#815
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	I don't know what to think anymore. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

09-08-2005, 02:57 PM	#818
pennywisesb College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California	If Vince was not spawn, and he did an inspection on RA (who was spawn), Vince would die right? Or am I way off here? __________________ Myspace Profile

09-08-2005, 03:00 PM	#825
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Vince needs to clear the air. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

09-08-2005, 03:05 PM	#828
pennywisesb College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California	Also, I think I can be promoted to medic which would be very valuable to the grew after liftoff. Also, I see one of two options here as far as spawn goes: either vince and realdeal are the spawn and Vince was lying about the attack, or RA and Dubb are spawn and Vince was telling the truth. __________________ Myspace Profile

09-08-2005, 02:38 PM	#801
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	For reference: Long examination Day Only The doctor may choose to examine any crew member. If the crew member is a survivor, the doctor will learn this. If the crew member is infected, but has not yet become a spawn, the doctor will learn this, and will cure the crew member. If the crew member is a spawn the doctor will have a chance to cure the crew member. There is also a chance that the doctor and/or crew member will die or that the doctor will become infected.

09-08-2005, 02:38 PM	#802
RealDeal High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: here	Looking at the rules, I can't figure out what has happened to RA to cause him to go into a coma. If he was spawn, and Vince tried to fix him, then it should either succeed or RA should die.

09-08-2005, 02:38 PM	#804
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	We can lynch the vegetable I'm kidding. But I am interested in what Vince learned about Raiders during the scan - prior to the coma.

09-08-2005, 02:39 PM	#805
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I assume it was a long exam (but it could be short). This is the part that worries me: There is also a chance that the doctor and/or crew member will die or that the doctor will become infected. So RA and Vince could both be spawns now.

09-08-2005, 02:39 PM	#806
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Can we lynch more than one person per day?

09-08-2005, 02:52 PM	#811
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	only thing i can think of is that the coma is a precursor to RA's dying...its unfortunate for us that vince is not around for the rest of the night i wonder if the coma would count as "wounded status", in which case, AE could promote pennywise to medic and he could cure RA

09-08-2005, 02:53 PM	#813
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I think it is very possible for Dubb to be a spawn now. He would be a prime target for them since he is basically guaranteed to be on every water mission and could easily sabotage them. And since the first one, we've had pretty bad luck with them. I'm beginning to get suspicious of Vince too.

09-08-2005, 02:57 PM	#817
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	If RealDeal is to be believed, then Vince is okay. If Vince is okay, then some (maybe 2, maybe 3) of the others in the brig last night are spawns. I guess that's the direction we should go, but I'm not sure.

09-08-2005, 03:06 PM	#829
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Or you are spawn.

09-08-2005, 03:09 PM	#830
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Barkeep, are there roles in this game that have not been published? Or is the list in post #1 the sum total of all roles in the game?

09-08-2005, 03:10 PM	#832
RealDeal High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: here	I think RA was spawn, considering the strange result of Vince's long exam, but we need to know the result of Vince's exam: 1. Was RA cured? If not, then we should let him die. If he was cured, then it would be nice to heal him. 2. Was Vince infected? If so, then we definitely need to heal him. 3. Considering that RA was likely spawn, then I think we should vote for Dubb, since RA volunteered to scan him. That scan, which happened before RA was examed by Vince, can't be trusted.

09-08-2005, 03:13 PM	#834
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Also, if Marc was the Queen or the Hive mind we would have had those revealed when he was lynched, correct? The fact that those were not revealed as his role would seem to indicate that there are at least those two spawn roles still out there and have been from the outset without changes in who holds them.

09-08-2005, 03:14 PM	#836
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	If there are no hidden roles then I'm thinking RA was spawn and is now in the process of being cured. I'm guessing the cure takes a day to process. This is total guesswork on my part, but I can't come up with another reason for him to be in a coma.

09-08-2005, 03:15 PM	#837
pennywisesb College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California	There's no point for a one for one exchange right now for the spawn. I'm not a spawn. __________________ Myspace Profile

09-08-2005, 03:16 PM	#838
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Subject to change after hearing from Vince: Vote Dub

09-08-2005, 03:17 PM	#840
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	It's not a tumaaaaa!!! I hate not being able to talk.

09-08-2005, 03:18 PM	#842
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Quiet, sick boy. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

09-08-2005, 03:20 PM	#844
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I'm currently looking at (in no particular order) Dubb, Vince, and pennywiseb. I figure RA is out of commission right now and not a threat. Who knows, maybe barkeep will explain what's going on when he has RA wake up (if he ever does). I don't know what to think at this point.

09-08-2005, 03:24 PM	#845
RealDeal High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: here	Since RA is not a threat right now, and since RA "scanned" Dubb, I vote: vote Dubb This is definitely subject to change when I hear from Vince.

09-08-2005, 03:28 PM	#846
pennywisesb College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California	Until Vince comes back and gives us an update, I'm very suspicious of RA and Dubb for the reasons I've previously posted. Since RA looks as though he's out of commission, I'm going to Vote Dubb for the time being. Upon further info from Vince I'm willing to reconsider. __________________ Myspace Profile

09-08-2005, 03:30 PM	#847
pennywisesb College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California	Barkeep who is able to promote me to a medic if thats an option for later on since Ardent said he couldn't? __________________ Myspace Profile

09-08-2005, 03:30 PM	#848
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Kwhit, I'm guessing the difference was that Vince was infected and in spawnling status. Raiders was full-blown spawn and thus has a different recovery cycle. Again, this is speculation with absolutely zero hard information. But until I hear something firm from Vince (or someone convinces me this theory is just plain stupid) this is how I'm choosing to interpret the information we have been presented.

09-08-2005, 03:32 PM	#849
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	I guess I understand the dubb votes, but I don't understand why Vince saying something could change your minds. What could he say? If he was spawn, of course he wouldn't say anything. Also, everyone is saying Dubb is suspect since he was in the brig last night, but so was Pennywise. Why is he getting off? This reminds me of the Marc Vaughn thing when I was almost lynched for no reason. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

09-08-2005, 03:37 PM	#850
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	This looks like another Ardent coin toss to me. Was it one if by land, two if by sea, or the other way around __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

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