Dropping out of all three leagues

[Karlifornia]

I thought I'd make a post here rather than in each league thread, but I'm retiring from all three dynasties, effective immediately. The human vs. human games are why I do these, but I just don't have the skills anymore to keep up with everyone, and rather than embarrassing myself, I'll gracefully step aside. It's been a whole lot of fun playing against everybody, and see y'all around.

[Kodos]

Thanks for the heads up, but don't forget: Most of us aren't stick-masters at this point. We have a few guys who are monsters, but most folks are like me -- not terrible, but way past our prime. Sure you can't reconsider?

Maybe next year we should have a premier league, and a league of middle-aged husbands who are on the downside of their video-game career.

[Sun Tzu]

Dammit Karl

[Sun Tzu]

Originally Posted by Kodos

Thanks for the heads up, but don't forget: Most of us aren't stick-masters at this point. We have a few guys who are monsters, but most folks are like me -- not terrible, but way past our prime. Sure you can't reconsider?

Maybe next year we should have a premier league, and a league of middle-aged husbands who are on the downside of their video-game career.

I like this idea of this...and I would like you to reconsider. I know it can be tough after a loss (no offense of course) but active and cool people like yourself make the league more enjoyable.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by Kodos

Thanks for the heads up, but don't forget: Most of us aren't stick-masters at this point. We have a few guys who are monsters, but most folks are like me -- not terrible, but way past our prime. Sure you can't reconsider?

Maybe next year we should have a premier league, and a league of middle-aged husbands who are on the downside of their video-game career.

Personally, I really like the idea of seperating the leagues based on skill levels instead of time zones, although it will be hard to classify some guys that are on the border of a skill level. I know that playing some of the elite guys can be incredibly frustrating.

[Sun Tzu]

I'd also like to remind everyone that there is a very strong possibility of there being a Coach-Only league next year.

[Logan]

I also wish Karl reconsiders...still the best game I've played was me as Texas Tech vs him as Clemson waaaaay back in the day, I think when we messed around with a tournament back before the leagues were underway.

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Personally, I really like the idea of seperating the leagues based on skill levels instead of time zones, although it will be hard to classify some guys that are on the border of a skill level. I know that playing some of the elite guys can be incredibly frustrating.

I also like this idea, and think the best way to go about it is to have people volunteer for which league they'd rather be part of. If someone out there isn't a great player, but would rather play the stronger competition, they should be allowed to do so.

In the case of where someone might be signing up for the lighter league when they really should be a level up, there's a simple solution: by signing up, you agree to abide by where FOFC decides you should play. If three people think you should be a level up, you move up, no arguments. We've all played a decent number of people by now, so there should be a general consensus as to your skill level and whether you fit in that league. Like I would obviously understand why DeTox wouldn't want me in the B-league with him.

[Sun Tzu]

Originally Posted by Logan

Like I would obviously understand why DeTox wouldn't want me in the B-league with him.

ditto

[Mike1409]

Originally Posted by Logan

I also wish Karl reconsiders...still the best game I've played was me as Texas Tech vs him as Clemson waaaaay back in the day, I think when we messed around with a tournament back before the leagues were underway.



I also like this idea, and think the best way to go about it is to have people volunteer for which league they'd rather be part of. If someone out there isn't a great player, but would rather play the stronger competition, they should be allowed to do so.

In the case of where someone might be signing up for the lighter league when they really should be a level up, there's a simple solution: by signing up, you agree to abide by where FOFC decides you should play. If three people think you should be a level up, you move up, no arguments. We've all played a decent number of people by now, so there should be a general consensus as to your skill level and whether you fit in that league. Like I would obviously understand why DeTox wouldn't want me in the B-league with him.

I like this idea as well, the only problem I see is for the guys that are tweeners, and the teams we start and compete with. I see myself in the middle with ave. skills, but I can't hang with the big boys even with a great team!

[kcchief19]

Man ... I think Karl beat me in our only matchups so I must really suck.

It would be tough to separate the wizards from the 30-something weekend warriors but it makes sense. I've played the best I can against Sun and neb and at my best I can't keep it within three TDs. That's OK, I don't mind. But the most enjoyable games I've played are when both humans are evenly matched, win or lose.

[ColtCrazy]

Originally Posted by Kodos

Thanks for the heads up, but don't forget: Most of us aren't stick-masters at this point. We have a few guys who are monsters, but most folks are like me -- not terrible, but way past our prime. Sure you can't reconsider?

Maybe next year we should have a premier league, and a league of middle-aged husbands who are on the downside of their video-game career.

I would definitely fall into this category. I love playing this game, and have great success against the CPU, but don't let my 2-0 human vs. human start in NOFL fool you. I could have easily lost both games. Based on what I've learned about my league, I would say Sun and some others will hand my ass to me on a silver platter. I would love to see a division like this, would make for some great epic games (like kc and I had....definitely a budding rivalry there!)

[Karlifornia]

I also want to add that there is absolutely no bitterness or anything behind my decision. Truth be told, I started to feel hints of burnout when playing the cpu, and I want a little decompression time before '10 comes out, so there's also that.

Thanks, guys.

[WVUFAN]

At least you've won more than 1 human/human game, Karl, unlike me.

I'd really love a Coach-Only league.

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by kcchief19

Man ... I think Karl beat me in our only matchups so I must really suck.

+1


This is a good time to bring up my thoughts on this that I've tossed around with Radii a bit.

I've been pretty vocal at times about my frustrations with my inability to compete. I definitely think that we either need to split up the leagues, or at least have a "lower" level league.

What I'd like to propose is a "House Rules" league. I've thought about some House Rules that I think would help level the playing field and also not make us completely dominate the CPU:

1) Some sort of recruiting limits. The two things that jump to mind for me are either a) you cannot recruit 5* players and/or b) you cannot recruit players with a speed above X (A-?).

2) Special Teams - CPU controls kick returns, Fair Catch all punts.

3) Sliders - As much as I complained, I like something similar to what we have now.

4) Option - DENIED. I'm really iffy on this one. There are legitimate ways to use the option, but unless they change something in '10 it is just so overpowered.

5) Think about team selection harder. Potentially make certain states "off-limits" (i.e. Texas, Florida) because of the large benefit in recruiting. Potentially eye-ball certain teams that should be off-limits (I think some teams benefited because they were rated 78-79, but had TONS of speed).





As for the stick-skills. I think it will be pretty easy to tell if someone should move up. If they're consistently beating top 10-20 teams by 5-7 TDs, they don't belong in the "House Rules" league.

[Kodos]

In 2010, we could hypothetically create a Solecismic 8 type conference with all cupcake schools, and have people only have access to those teams. It'd start everyone off on equal footing.

I think it'd be neat to create a college version of my Rochester Lake Monsters from IHOF.

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by Kodos

In 2010, we could hypothetically create a Solecismic 8 type conference with all cupcake schools, and have people only have access to those teams. It'd start everyone off on equal footing.

I think it'd be neat to create a college version of my Rochester Lake Monsters from IHOF.

Oh yeah, forgot about that part.

I think it's a good idea in theory, but I'm not sure how you deal with creating the right balance of players unless you just mirror some existing team.

[Kodos]

I figured we would just mirror some crappy teams.

Or, alternatively, we could move a bunch of crappy teams into one conference. We could even use our favorite schools, but have their rosters be crap to start with and lower their prestige to 3 stars.

[BrianD]

Originally Posted by kcchief19

Man ... I think Karl beat me in our only matchups so I must really suck.

It would be tough to separate the wizards from the 30-something weekend warriors but it makes sense. I've played the best I can against Sun and neb and at my best I can't keep it within three TDs. That's OK, I don't mind. But the most enjoyable games I've played are when both humans are evenly matched, win or lose.

I was thinking the same thing...I am 0-2 against Karl.

[Kodos]

Yep. Karl kicked my ass in our only head-to-head game. Of course, it had to be in a bowl, which made it doubly bad.

[Raiders Army]

Sorry to hear that Karl. You should've won our matchup.

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

Dammit Karl

Why do you say this? We (my wife and I) say this a lot as a quote from the Friends episode where Joey has a "twin".