The Ladder: Promotion/Relegation rules for new league setup

Kodos · 03-04-2013, 03:41 PM

If you are not in the league, please vote for the third option only.

Hi guys. We never really established official rules for promotion/relegation under our new league structure. For the second level (PAC, Big East, Big 12, ACC), it's clear enough: Win the conference championship game and you move up within your group to either the Big Ten or SEC.

For the third level (MWC and C-USA), things aren't quite as clear. When I was designing things, my thought was "win your division to move up", but now I'm thinking it'd be better to have to win the conference championship game in order to move up. This would mean that sometimes second level teams will not be relegated because the team trying to move up and replace them lost in the conference championship game.

I figured we should have a vote to decide, especially because I am in the MWC and thus have a conflict of interest. Should the rule be:

1. Third level teams need to win their conference championship game to move up
or
2. Third level teams move up if they win their division

Kodos · 03-04-2013, 03:55 PM

As far as tie-breakers for the bottom level of the Ladder (WAC, MAC, Independents, Sunbelt) go, I propose we use the in-game division order (not the one from the website, which seems to get things wrong sometimes).

Please feel free to make suggestions. Alternatively, we could use something like this to decide who moves up from the bottom level, as well as who gets relegated from the higher levels:

1. Conference record
2. Overall record
3. Head-to-head record
4. Coin toss

gstelmack · 03-05-2013, 08:09 AM

2 down, 2 up, so win the division makes the most sense to me.

MacroGuru · 03-05-2013, 08:17 AM

I am about winning the division...

Kodos · 03-05-2013, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacroGuru

I am about winning the division...

Don't forget to vote and make it official.

gstelmack · 03-06-2013, 07:34 AM

For those voting for "win the conference championship game", what rules do you propose for relegation? There are two conferences above each, so if only one moves up, which conference does it go to, and how do you decide which one to move down?

Kodos · 03-06-2013, 09:14 AM

I was thinking we could use our own tiebreaker system to determine the worst team. Something like the system I mentioned above.

Kodos · 03-06-2013, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos

Please feel free to make suggestions. Alternatively, we could use something like this to decide who moves up from the bottom level, as well as who gets relegated from the higher levels:

1. Conference record
2. Overall record
3. Head-to-head record
4. Coin toss

We could probably come up with a better 4th option to move the coin toss down some more.

gstelmack · 03-06-2013, 10:02 AM

I just think it's simpler and more consistent to move up-and-down within the color groups you have above.

Kodos · 03-06-2013, 12:03 PM

I don't have a strong opinion either way, so we'll let the majority rule.

Kodos · 03-09-2013, 02:29 PM

Please vote if you haven't already.

CU Tiger · 03-14-2013, 05:59 PM

I voted division but not strong either way.

Kodos · 03-14-2013, 06:11 PM

The rule is now: Win your division in Tier 3, move up. Thanks for voting, everyone.

View Poll Results: In order to be promoted, Level 3 teams (MWC, C-USA) need to...
... win their conference championship game	3	33.33%
... win their division	5	55.56%
I just want to see results without voting	1	11.11%
Voters: 9. You may not vote on this poll

03-04-2013, 03:55 PM	#2
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	As far as tie-breakers for the bottom level of the Ladder (WAC, MAC, Independents, Sunbelt) go, I propose we use the in-game division order (not the one from the website, which seems to get things wrong sometimes). Please feel free to make suggestions. Alternatively, we could use something like this to decide who moves up from the bottom level, as well as who gets relegated from the higher levels: 1. Conference record 2. Overall record 3. Head-to-head record 4. Coin toss Last edited by Kodos : 03-04-2013 at 03:56 PM.

03-05-2013, 08:09 AM	#3
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	2 down, 2 up, so win the division makes the most sense to me. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

03-05-2013, 08:17 AM	#4
MacroGuru Coordinator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah	I am about winning the division... __________________ "forgetting what is in the past, I strive for the future"

03-06-2013, 07:34 AM	#6
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	For those voting for "win the conference championship game", what rules do you propose for relegation? There are two conferences above each, so if only one moves up, which conference does it go to, and how do you decide which one to move down? __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

03-06-2013, 09:14 AM	#7
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I was thinking we could use our own tiebreaker system to determine the worst team. Something like the system I mentioned above. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

03-06-2013, 10:02 AM	#9
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	I just think it's simpler and more consistent to move up-and-down within the color groups you have above. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

03-06-2013, 12:03 PM	#10
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I don't have a strong opinion either way, so we'll let the majority rule.

03-09-2013, 02:29 PM	#11
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Please vote if you haven't already. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

03-14-2013, 05:59 PM	#12
CU Tiger Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Backwoods, SC	I voted division but not strong either way.

03-14-2013, 06:11 PM	#13
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	The rule is now: Win your division in Tier 3, move up. Thanks for voting, everyone. Last edited by Kodos : 03-14-2013 at 06:11 PM.

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