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Old 06-18-2008, 07:10 AM   #1
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West Coast League: Conference Selection

We now know that we are using 4 conferences of 3 players each. I thought of a variety of ways to do this, but this seems the best. Each member should name the 4 conferences they want included. Any conference that is a clear winner will be one of our conferences. If it is close (within a vote) for the 3rd or 4th spot, we'll use polls to determine the winner.
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Old 06-18-2008, 07:13 AM   #2
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For reference, here is the list of teams under 80 overall (which I'm expecting to be the clear winner when we do that poll.):

Here is a list of teams under 80 in the major conferences from a post in the East Coast League:

JUST TEAMS UNDER 80:

ACC:
Virginia--79
North Carolina--79
Boston College--77
Wake Forest--77
NC State--77
Duke--77

Big 10:
Michigan State 79
Indiana 79
Minnesota 77
Iowa 74

Big 12:
Oklahoma State 79
Colorado 79
Texas A&M 77
Kansas 77
Iowa State 72
Baylor 67

Big East:
USF 79
Rutgers 79
Pittsburgh 79
Louisville 79
Connecticut 74
Syracuse 72

Pac 10:

Washington 79
Washington State 77
Oregon State 77
Stanford 74

SEC:
Arkansas 79
Kentucky 77
Mississippi State 74
Vanderbilt 72
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Old 06-18-2008, 07:17 AM   #3
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Here is the link to All Team Ratings:

http://easports.com/downloads/easpor...am_ratings.xls
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Old 06-18-2008, 07:18 AM   #4
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Here is the list of all teams under 80:

Team Overall Offense Defense
Army 60 66 60
Idaho 60 66 60
Utah State 60 60 69
Western Kentucky 60 68 60
Arkansas State 62 73 60
San Jose State 62 66 64
Wyoming 62 70 62
Air Force 64 68 69
Eastern Michigan 64 68 69
Baylor 67 70 71
Buffalo 67 77 62
FIU 67 70 66
Mid Tenn State 67 73 69
New Mexico 67 75 66
Ohio 67 66 73
Toledo 67 75 66
Tulane 67 70 66
UL Monroe 67 75 66
UNLV 67 70 66
Ball State 69 79 64
Louisiana Tech 69 75 71
Memphis 69 75 69
Nevada 69 77 69
North Texas 69 75 69
SMU 69 73 71
Temple 69 73 69
UAB 69 70 71
UL Lafayette 69 77 66
Akron 72 75 73
Central Michigan 72 81 66
Colorado State 72 75 76
ECU 72 75 76
Florida Atlantic 72 77 71
Iowa State 72 73 76
Kent State 72 77 71
Marshall 72 75 73
Miami University 72 75 73
Navy 72 77 71
Southern Miss 72 79 71
Syracuse 72 73 78
Troy 72 70 78
UTEP 72 75 73
Vanderbilt 72 75 71
Bowling Green 74 73 80
Connecticut 74 77 73
Fresno State 74 81 69
Houston 74 73 82
Iowa 74 79 73
Mississippi State 74 75 78
New Mexico State 74 83 69
San Diego State 74 75 80
Stanford 74 79 76
Tulsa 74 77 73
Utah 74 81 69
Boise State 77 81 76
Boston College 77 77 80
Duke 77 81 76
Hawai'i 77 75 80
Kansas 77 81 78
Kentucky 77 77 82
Minnesota 77 79 76
NC State 77 79 78
Northern Illinois 77 79 78
Oregon State 77 75 80
Rice 77 81 76
Texas A&M 77 79 80
UCF 77 75 85
Wake Forest 77 79 80
Washington State 77 77 78
Arkansas 79 79 82
BYU 79 88 73
Colorado 79 81 80
Indiana 79 81 82
Louisville 79 81 76
Michigan State 79 83 78
North Carolina 79 79 80
Oklahoma State 79 83 80
Pittsburgh 79 88 76
Rutgers 79 81 82
TCU 79 81 78
USF 79 81 80
Virginia 79 79 85
Washington 79 81 80
Western Michigan 79 77 85
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Old 06-18-2008, 08:15 AM   #5
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Old 06-18-2008, 09:00 AM   #6
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Old 06-18-2008, 09:31 AM   #7
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I had selected the Pac 10, but I'm a bit worried that whoever is in that conference will be able to get too many of the 5 star recruits from CA that want to stay local but don't get picked up by USC/UCLA...so I switched to Big East.
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Old 06-18-2008, 10:48 AM   #8
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Old 06-18-2008, 10:55 AM   #9
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Just curious, does order matter? Does the first rank conference get more votes? Or do you just add up the total votes?

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Old 06-18-2008, 10:56 AM   #10
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Order doesn't matter. Just adding up total votes. Then we'll use polls to finalize things if they aren't 4 clear winners.
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Old 06-18-2008, 10:56 AM   #11
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I had selected the Pac 10, but I'm a bit worried that whoever is in that conference will be able to get too many of the 5 star recruits from CA that want to stay local but don't get picked up by USC/UCLA...so I switched to Big East.

Outside of USC and UCLA, you got Cal and Stanford. Throw in schools from the mid-majors. I think that it will be tough to get 4 and 5 star recruits, as national powerhouses will recruit them hard as well.

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Old 06-18-2008, 10:57 AM   #12
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Outside of USC and UCLA, you got Cal and Stanford. Throw in schools from the mid-majors. I think that it will be tough to get 4 and 5 star recruits, as national powerhouses will recruit them hard as well.

Agreed. Also, they lowered the number of 5 star recruits last year if I recall correctly.
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Old 06-18-2008, 11:01 AM   #13
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Does conference prestige matter to recruits? Hopefully you can build state pipelines.
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Old 06-18-2008, 11:16 AM   #14
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If anyone doesn't care, please vote for the Big Ten.
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Old 06-18-2008, 11:22 AM   #15
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Has cartman responded at all?
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Old 06-18-2008, 11:26 AM   #16
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Ok Ok. I switched back to the Pac 10. You convinced me

Honestly, I'd be happy with just about anything really. I watch college ball as a fan just in general. Since I don't route hard for any specific team, I'm not particular to any conference...I just live in Pac 10-ville.
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Old 06-18-2008, 12:56 PM   #17
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Old 06-18-2008, 01:14 PM   #19
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Has cartman responded at all?

Cartman has been pretty unresponsive just in general. I PMed him along with Raiders Army and KCChief19 just as a heads up that we got our own subforum. Not really sure what to make of it as he has posted in other threads since I PM'ed him.
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Old 06-18-2008, 01:27 PM   #20
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Cartman has been pretty unresponsive just in general. I PMed him along with Raiders Army and KCChief19 just as a heads up that we got our own subforum. Not really sure what to make of it as he has posted in other threads since I PM'ed him.

Perhaps ping him in the regular forum?
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Old 06-18-2008, 04:43 PM   #21
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Ok well...in case nobody saw the thread, cartman is @ the WSOP.
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Old 06-18-2008, 05:24 PM   #22
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No big deal, we have plenty of time until the game drops, plus for some of the votes, 1 vote won't matter.

It's still early, but the Big 12 is looking good with a vote from every person who has voted so far.
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Old 06-18-2008, 05:30 PM   #23
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No big deal, we have plenty of time until the game drops, plus for some of the votes, 1 vote won't matter.

It's still early, but the Big 12 is looking good with a vote from every person who has voted so far.

The Big 12 could be a fun, and interesting, conference.
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Old 06-18-2008, 05:37 PM   #24
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With half the votes in, here's our tally so far.

Big 12 - 7
ACC - 6
Big East - 6
Pac 10 - 5
Big 10 - 4
SEC - 4

*updated up until bhlloy*
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Old 06-18-2008, 05:39 PM   #25
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The Big 12 could be a fun, and interesting, conference.

I've been thinking about which teams are most likely to get taken early in the draft with each conference, and I figure Kansas and Texas A&M are the most likely to go early in the draft from this conference. Definitely, some interesting possibilities available.
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Old 06-18-2008, 05:41 PM   #26
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Can I call it the big ACC just for consistency?

Big ACC
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Much better!

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Old 06-18-2008, 05:49 PM   #27
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I've been thinking about which teams are most likely to get taken early in the draft with each conference, and I figure Kansas and Texas A&M are the most likely to go early in the draft from this conference. Definitely, some interesting possibilities available.

It would be a tough conference with the teams and the recruiting resources they have. Recruiting in Texas (as rich as it is) would be extremely tough. You got the four Big 12 conference Texas schools (Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Baylor); the bordering school powers (Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, LSU, Arkansas, ect.), the national powers who can recruit any place, and a large number of mid-major programs in Texas (SMU, TCU, Houston, Rice, North Texas, ect.).
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Old 06-18-2008, 06:13 PM   #28
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With half the votes in, here's our tally so far.

Big 12 - 7
ACC - 5
Big East - 5
Pac 10 - 4
Big 10 - 4
SEC - 3

*updated for kingsneb*

Looks like we might have to another round of voting to break the tie-breakers.

I think one more vote for the Big 12, and that's a lock.

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Old 06-18-2008, 08:40 PM   #29
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Also waiting on Cartman and Terps. With 5 outstanding votes, no conference is a lock, yet. If my calculations are correct, the Big 12 actually needs 3 more votes (or for other conferences not to get votes on ballots) to be a clear lock.
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Also waiting on Cartman and Terps. With 5 outstanding votes, no conference is a lock, yet. If my calculations are correct, the Big 12 actually needs 3 more votes (or for other conferences not to get votes on ballots) to be a clear lock.


Terps already voted.
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So with 12 members and 7 votes for the Big 12, that one is already a lock. If we assume that cartman wont be voting because he's in Vegas (I sure as hell know I wouldn't be voting) then a conference would only need 6 out of 11 to be a lock. That puts the ACC and the Big East into the locked category too. Now we're just waiting to see if both Kcchief19 and Hell Atlantic vote for either the Big 10 or the SEC without droping a single vote on the Pac 10. There are other possibilities where we could have to have another tie breaker poll, but with only 6 conferences to choose from total the chances of that happening are pretty slim.

Big 12 - 8
ACC - 7
Big East - 7
Pac 10 - 5
Big 10 - 5
SEC - 4
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Old 06-19-2008, 09:37 AM   #34
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No, the Big 12 isn't a lock. If the next 5 members don't vote for it, but all vote for the ACC, Big East, Pac 10, and Big 10, then it wouldn't have the required number of votes to be selected.
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Old 06-19-2008, 09:38 AM   #35
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Terps already voted.

My bad. I went quickly when trying to figure out who hasn't voted yet.
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Old 06-19-2008, 09:43 AM   #36
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Double Dola -

We are waiting on Sir Fozzie (which is who I forgot when I missed Terps.) Also, waiting on Hell Atlantic, Kcchief19, and Cartman. With the vote being close, I don't think this will get resolved until Cartman gets back. His votes will matter, particularly in the 3rd and 4th spot. Remember, the winners all could have 8 or 9 votes each for them.
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Old 06-19-2008, 09:55 AM   #37
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I just realised that I never told Sir Fozzie that we have a subforum. My fault for letting that slip through the cracks. I PM'ed him.
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ACC - 7
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Old 06-19-2008, 12:34 PM   #41
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Now, with 3 voters left, 1 more vote for the Big 12 makes it a lock. 2 votes for the ACC or Big East would make them a lock.
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Big 12 - 8
ACC - 8
Big East - 8
Big 10-6
Pac 10 - 5
SEC - 5

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sorry for taking so long, Galaxy actually reminded me in the NCAA '09 demo thread. all the excitement of OOTP9 distractred me. and i think i got so used to seeing polls in order to cast a vote it didn't click with me that i just needed to write in my vote.

thanks to everyone who is tallying this up and setting up all the polls. i like that a lot of focus and commitment is being put forth.

when the league gets up and rolling, we should have a thread of all highlights. that'd be awesome. nice way to keep all the highlights in one central place.
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So we just need Kcchief19 and cartman.
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sorry for taking so long, Galaxy actually reminded me in the NCAA '09 demo thread. all the excitement of OOTP9 distractred me. and i think i got so used to seeing polls in order to cast a vote it didn't click with me that i just needed to write in my vote.

thanks to everyone who is tallying this up and setting up all the polls. i like that a lot of focus and commitment is being put forth.

when the league gets up and rolling, we should have a thread of all highlights. that'd be awesome. nice way to keep all the highlights in one central place.

Agreed about the thread for highlights. Also, in a day or two, once we have a few more things in place, I'm going to start a central thread that summarizes all of the rules, conferences, etc.
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Hey Guys,

I've been in Vegas since the weekend, and haven't been on the board much at all. The Big 12 works for me as well.
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I've been in Vegas since the weekend, and haven't been on the board much at all. The Big 12 works for me as well.

You get to vote for 4 conferences from the following:

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Hey Guys,

I've been in Vegas since the weekend, and haven't been on the board much at all. The Big 12 works for me as well.

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