The Pyramid - Switch to EF27's "realistic sliders"?

[Kodos]

Should we switch to these sliders after this week is complete? These would be implemented for Week 10.

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

As requested, here are my "realistic" sliders based off a set that Jistic did on OS:

Offensive Skill - Heisman
Defensive Skill - All-American
Speed: Normal
Threshold: 30
Quarters - 9 minutes

Sliders
User/CPU

QB Accuracy: 5/10
Pass Blocking: 50/70
WR Catching: 45/50
RB Ability: 50/55
Run Blocking: 5/15
Pass Coverage: 60/70
Interception:25/25
Rush Defense: 50/90
Tackling: 35-40/35-40 (I keep going back and forth but I settled on 35 as I see a lot of missed tackles in college football.)
FG Power: 45/50
FG Accuracy: 10/35
Punt Power: 45/60
Punt Accuracy: 10/40
Kickoff Power: 0/45

Subs
QB 65/80
HB 84/90
FB/TE 65/80
WR 74/80
OL 65/80

DT 74/80
DE 74/80
LB 69/75
CB 74/75
S 74/75

Penalties

50 for all.

[vex]

What do our sliders look like currently?

[Kodos]

I don't have them laid out like EF does, but here is the description. Anything not mentioned is default.

Originally Posted by Kodos

I decided we need to up the difficulty a bit. Not being a sliders guy, EF27's set here sounded good. Mostly default - Offense on AA, Defense on Heisman. A few tweaks to both user and cpu: QB Acc to 15, WR Catch to 45, Ints to 30. Everything else is default, including penalties. Game speed slow, min speed threshold is 25. Quarters are still 8 minutes. Home field advantage is on, Ice the kicker is off. All penalties are set to 50. We never seemed to be able to reach a consensus as a league, so I decided to just make a choice for us. I'm open to reevaluating at the end of the season.

[CU Tiger]

Ok...here are my thoughts.

OPI and DPI need to be turned way down or passing is way too easy.
Penalty sliders dont just effect penalties called they also effect how AI plays. So with PI at 50 they play HUGE cushions.

The OS community sliders have them at O20 D19....I think we need to seriously consider this. It makes passing a challenge and lets you play defense.

If you do this however and leave INTs at 25 they will be too high. 15-20 INts would be better with the lower PI setting.

Intentional grounding should be turned up to eliminate the quick snap throw aways. I run that setting at 90 personally.

Heck...Im just going to post my sliders I play (and are used in other OL dynasties I am in and let everyone weigh in)

Offensive Skill - Heisman
Defensive Skill - All-American
Speed: Normal
Threshold: 5
Quarters - 9 minutes

Sliders
User/CPU

QB Accuracy: 30/55
Pass Blocking: 35/35
WR Catching: 35/35 (This negates the QBA bump and brings the Catching ability of WR into play)
RB Ability: 50/50
Run Blocking: 5/25
Pass Coverage: 75/30
Interception:20/20
Rush Defense: 35/50
Tackling: 30/30
FG Power: 60/60
FG Accuracy: 5/40
Punt Power: 35/50
Punt Accuracy: 50/80
Kickoff Power: 0/45

Subs
QB 0/1
HB 59/70
FB/TE 35/36
WR 64/65
OL 0/1

DT 84/85
DE 84/85
LB 0/1
CB 0/1
S 0/1

Penalties

50 for all except.

Rk 15 (this generates a rush and occasionally you will see a blocked punt...maybe 1 per season either way)
IG 90
OPI/DPI 20/19

[CU Tiger]

If anyone else has the time Id love someone to play game with those settings and let me kno your thoughts

[Radii]

I remain completely indifferent, I never play single player, just in a couple online leagues, so I don't have experience with a lot of slider sets to have an intelligent opinion. I will happily go along with anything.

What CU Tiger says about PI makes sense. Grounding too.

[Grammaticus]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Ok...here are my thoughts.

OPI and DPI need to be turned way down or passing is way too easy.
Penalty sliders dont just effect penalties called they also effect how AI plays. So with PI at 50 they play HUGE cushions.

The OS community sliders have them at O20 D19....I think we need to seriously consider this. It makes passing a challenge and lets you play defense.

If you do this however and leave INTs at 25 they will be too high. 15-20 INts would be better with the lower PI setting.

Intentional grounding should be turned up to eliminate the quick snap throw aways. I run that setting at 90 personally.

Heck...Im just going to post my sliders I play (and are used in other OL dynasties I am in and let everyone weigh in)

Offensive Skill - Heisman
Defensive Skill - All-American
Speed: Normal
Threshold: 5
Quarters - 9 minutes

Sliders
User/CPU

QB Accuracy: 30/55
Pass Blocking: 35/35
WR Catching: 35/35 (This negates the QBA bump and brings the Catching ability of WR into play)
RB Ability: 50/50
Run Blocking: 5/25
Pass Coverage: 75/30
Interception:20/20
Rush Defense: 35/50
Tackling: 30/30
FG Power: 60/60
FG Accuracy: 5/40
Punt Power: 35/50
Punt Accuracy: 50/80
Kickoff Power: 0/45

Subs
QB 0/1
HB 59/70
FB/TE 35/36
WR 64/65
OL 0/1

DT 84/85
DE 84/85
LB 0/1
CB 0/1
S 0/1

Penalties

50 for all except.

Rk 15 (this generates a rush and occasionally you will see a blocked punt...maybe 1 per season either way)
IG 90
OPI/DPI 20/19

These look like an earlier version of the ones in this link, from OS:

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Then here is another one from OS, based on the community sliders thread. Good stuff to look at as well when contemplating sliders.

NCAA 14 - OS Community + Playmakers Split Sliders - Operation Sports Forums

I have tried both last night on two 5 minute quarter games. They are both okay. The newer version seems to be a little better. But they are very similar. The biggest difference is both O and D are Heisman on the newer version.

[CU Tiger]

Yep I tried the newer version as well.
I like the the older one better and have tweaked it a very small amount to my play style. But either I think are balanced.

I like the EF set posted EXCEPT the PI settings. Just played a game with them and stock rosters and easily threw 49-52 with South Alabama playing Auburn...

Crossing routes were open all day long.

BTW I have not voted on the poll yet.

[Kodos]

No worries. I'm the only one who has voted, outside of an abstain vote. Since we're in a bit of a dead period, might be a good time for people to try out the OS Community sliders and EF's sliders to see which they prefer.